/biz/ - Business & Finance

FUCK (((ZUCKERBERG)))

>No edition
First for grim sucks at threads

HOLY SHIT FACEBOOK LMAO

"Computing and Graphics segment revenue was $1.09 billion, up 64 percent year-over-year and down 3 percent quarter-over-quarter. Year-over-year revenue growth was driven by strong sales of Radeon products and continued growth of Ryzen products. The quarter-over-quarter decline was primarily related to lower revenue from GPU products in the blockchain market."

How does this affect NVIDIA going into their ER? I'm not expecting much effect but combined with China exposure maybe it hits them.

>>10420797
I love seeing everyone in FB lose their shit.
What a great day.
Fuck that company.

Based Dr. Su. Feminists don't care for her because they know she has a man brain.

>>10420697
-0.28%

Congrats on this
How will bulls ever recover

why TF do people always say cant cuck the zuck?? I OWE A SHIT TON OF MONEY RIGHT NOW WHAT THE FUCK

Should I buy Facebook ?

>>10420867
if they have any sense, theyll sit cash till monday. we got a bloodmoon to get through

>>10420881
I don't think anyone here says that, he's pretty roundly despised by most everyone on this site myself included

>>10420881
what did you do?

>100% index fund account up 2% today
chinese takeout tonight lads

>>10420862
If only weren't taking the rest of the market with them

>>10420881
ouch
margins?

>>10420881
>why TF do people always say cant cuck the zuck??
ive never heard anyone here say that
we usually call him cuckerberg

>>10420881
Fuck Facebook and fuck zuckergerg

Is zuckerberg gone?

>>10420911
Youre right. I hate the fact my total market fund is heavily made up of companies like face berg. Which is part of the reason i got started not being the lazy portfolio. I hate putting my money into shit companies with shady agendas.

Oil doing well facefags btfo can’t complain

nth for HMNY

>>10420911
you had your chance m8
these last few weeks were time enough for you to switch from real companies/indexes over to an entirely meme based portfolio.

WEAT
DRUS
USO

FB already in the shitter, not too late to short AMZN

i told yall like 3 weeks ago

I own HMNY FB and ALT.
Soon I won’t even be able to afford a gun and a single bullet to end it all

Alternative to degiro in europe?

Someone smarter than me please explain to everyone why they should not buy calls tomorrow on Facebook.

>>10421083
dont buy long options when the IV is this high

youve been warned

>>10421038
Just zuck my shit up senpai

>>10420934
The only big cap stock I have is GOOGL, the rest is in MU and EXEL. All three still got wiped AH.

>>10421083
because tend thousand other people with one thousand times more leverage than you are doing the same with high frequency trading supercomputers with 5 ms delay

>>10421083
Sentiment on FB is much worse than on NFLX. NFLX is still worshiped. FB is constantly under attack by EU and media.

according to futures, looks like the whole "Fang is responsible for the whole bullmarket" is a Small Spec cope
This is hardly a dent

>>10421123
its because most of the US market has been getting dragged upwards by shitty MANFAG meme stocks for a while now, and big boys are using the ERs stacked with buy orders to dump into. as this realization slowly sets in, everyone will be cashing out of their similarly ridiculously priced meme stocks. time to learn how to hedge, eh?

>>10421158
Google is set to launch waymo this year as a commercial service. If that happens every single exposed tech stock is going to fucking moon.

I’m wondering what my next play will be after my current expedition, maybe one day the true retarded Pepe will grace us again

>>10421141
Why would people dislike a platform that literally tries to send you to prison?

>>10421197
Yeah, the point was sentiment on FB is much more negative than it is on NFLX, making a rebound less likely or less strong.

At this point does anyone know the chance zuckerberg is replaced soon?

>>10421153
im still looking at GIS and maybe some industrials. and energy is going to continue destroying every other sector

i like the look of haliburton now that its already fallen a good amount. picking up some of that somewhere sub40 seems like a solid idea. they hardly missed

you know any decent transportation memes worth picking up? oil is headed back to the moon again

either way, i have no doubt that the DOW will be the closest index to a safe-haven in the near term

>>10421176
sure, but thats an "if". and no one knows "when".

whats NOT an "if" is the fact that people leveraged up to their eyeballs on FB getting margin called on open tomorrow is going to cause some unnecessary pain in the near term

im getting nervous about my AMZN short position

so should i be buying puts on anything? sorry im a brainlet. please respond

>>10421208
Zucc has already sold around ~80 to 90% of his equity. Chances are he's already trying to look elsewhere

>>10421223
might close tomorrow instead of hold through earnings

>>10421217
Yeah, I just want people to understand the crux of everything. Self-Driving Cars (proxy for ML) are the clear biggest lynch pin over the next year.

If you are bullish or bearish you need to understand this and have expectations on which companies will feast and which will famine. It can help explain a lot of valuations too. For instance it's a good reason to be bullish on AMD due to potential upside from 7nm Instinct line.

Also important to realize. Hardware requirements to train leading ML algos have doubled every 3 months according to AI whitepapers. Think about that demand.

>>10421223
considering selling tomo as well

>>10420867
they gonna 100x leverage buy back FB & AMZN
but this signal start of the end

two weeks top before everything starts falling down

If you don't pay taxes for the profits you make from stocks, at what point will the IRS come after you, if any? Does anyone here actually pay the taxes?

>>10421246
So even if you think it's hogwash, then you can predict what's overvalued. If you think it will happen you can predict what goes up. Lots is priced in already but it's very very important to understand this dynamic in the market.

>>10421228
>Zucc has already sold around ~80 to 90% of his equity.
how do we know this?

>>10421223
>>10421229
i mean, yeah if youre up and dont want to take the risk, do it.
alternatively, cover enough of your cost basis and leave the rest on for a moonshot.

>>10421267
He has to disclose when he sells, he’s been basically max selling every month for the past year

>>10421255
ouch

>>10421259
it took the IRS 1 year and 1 month to come after me when I forgot to pay taxes in 2016. brokers report everything to the IRS
They slapped on a 2k "underpayment fee" and a $500 "intrest" at 5% per year. They said I owed $7k additional in total. I re-filed and ended up owning them $500.

>>10421217
GIS? Just buy it Nya 100%

Transportation? I avoid entirely. All Airplane stocks hit styop losses immediately. You need to buy all food stocks again

>>10421256
You are just too young to remeber all the 20% drops back in 1920 bullrun

>>10421051
binck

>>10421208
Zero

>Reminder Facebook owns Instagram
>Instagram is their hedge against losing people >who no longer use Facebook
>They will keep on buying out all their competitors
>BUY NOW!!!!!!

How many boomers are going to get margin called tommorrow for the first time?

>>10421378
>20% drops in a day
goddamn that sounds fun

>>10421439
several hundred thousand

>>10421439
>boomers understand and use options
umm, sweetie?

>>10421467
weve had that on HMNY heh

>>10421470
boomers invented options

any other snow mexicans here? just got approved for options trading and going to be trading on the TSX. have my sights on WEED, APH over the fall/winter, FUCK ACB.

>>10421115
>IV
why not?

you're paying more for the options, but if they go ITM you're good

didn't it work with NFLX?

>>10421483
and millennials "invented" the internet

>>10421483
>boomers invented options
jews did

>>10421490
>if they go ITM you're good
ITM plus premium

>>10421498
boomers invented the internet

>>10421490
listen m8
i dont care enough to type out why its retarded. if you think IM retarded, then go buy em. just make sure you post pics

Tempted to dump it all into FB. I've been avoiding the stock on principle, but there's no way it's not going to bounce hard after this.

>>10421127
this, you'll have to go up 50% to break even on ATM calls

Threadly reminder that the second tech bubble is bursting. Blood moon on Friday.

>>10421550
the entire market is propped up by it

>>10421550
>Blood moon
dead moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2nOGbgP0VQ

>>10421503
>implying those are different

>>10421378
Me have read all the books kek
Before 20% drops we will see irrationality exuberance, 30%+ spikes, and technically analyze on T.V. telling everyone hodl

whos ready for new all time highs?

>AMZN $2,000 end of (next) month

>>10421616
s&p is going to pump 500% over the next 3 years, you'll go bankrupt then its going down 20% and you'll be happy that you were 'right'

>>10421550
>watching the blood moon when Mars closest every 2 earth since last crash

>>10421616
kek if it pumps 30% then drops 20% the net gain is 4%

>>10421634
Kek
Even if made 50000% gains me would still go bankrupt ;_;
But yeah

Before the crash prices gonna get crazy high no disagree there

on a scale of one to retarded, how retarded is it to write naked calls on a large index?

>>10421640
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0bcRCCg01I

>>10420881
Thanks for the donation

>>10421663
S-shut up

>>10420797
I wish I had purchased more AMD stocks back in 2015 when they were less than $2 a share.

4K worth of MU options boys,

Wish me luck! Maybe It will finally propel me to gather the courage to end it all!

>>10421728
I wish I bought American Airlines in 2008
but listen to buffett. its ok to miss pitches. there's always another opportunity.

>>10421728
NVDA went up a much higher percent than AMD in the same period

MU or AMD? looking to drop a cool 20

>>10421228
Didn't he say after his kid grew to a certain age he would sell all his Facebook shares and donate them? I guess he found a workaround.

>>10421776
AMD was affordable for most anons though
hard to gamble on a stock worth over $100

>>10421616
>read books
The Stock market is a psychic game. If you cant read the vector space there is no point in playing

SPY 2940 end of year

I've haven't had time to shitpost with you lads, but boy oh boy I hope you shorted Facebook. Don't FOMO shorts on FB. If you didn't have them today don't bother, consider buying calls.

Short SPY until 10 then buy calls

>>10420956
God what the fuck

>>10421816
Forgot my trip shiiiet

>>10421616
Your handwriting makes me want to break your fingers as you don't deserve to use them.

>>10420911
Wheatbros don’t care about FB

>>10421816
Yup, made 8k if the price holds. I'm not sure if it will. I'll keep my call and hope to make half that cash back.

>Be me
>Can't make a winning trade for two weeks after making thousands in one week in the beginning of the month
>Talking with my friend
>"FUCK IT BRO. IM DONE. IM JUST GONNA BUY A PUT ON FB FOR THE FUCK OF IT."
>Buy $210p 6/27 at the high of the day
>mfw my first fucking profitable trade in weeks was with $280 put buy
>Mfw my uncalculated yolo idgaf put will make more than any calculated trade I've made in a month

>>10421787
Nvidia was $10 6-7 years ago

Tech crash tommorow

Why does Amazon have zero insider trading since May? Seems really unusual that a company that big would have no activity for a couple months

>>10421550
Oh god. Is this gonna take the NASDAQ with it? I'm ready to get JUST'd tomorrow. Fuck it.

>>10421965

Yes. FB just popped the bubble

>>10421965
If you own Q's, I'm sorry. Should've seen this coming from a kike away

>>10421940

Good

I want the stock market to burn

>>10421981
>that Freudian slip

>>10420797

today earned me a vacation
>enjoy FB plebs

>>10421913
It was already over 100 when AMD's run began though

10x the price of AMD, hence more profit was to be had from Mass AMD shares

>>10420956
Post your losses, lads. I'm down -86% of initial cost. I have only $12 left on that piece of shit.

>>10422014
I'm down 5% on puts despite the raping given out today. The split fucked me hard and took itm to deeply otm

Sitting 100% on fiat right now.

A crash is coming.

I can feel it in my bones.

I got my HMNY share back, what should I do fellows? Sell it at 10.52$ and make about .46$ over all or keep it and hope beyond hope?

>>10421698
bumping this question

>>10421836
That sounds really hot
Imagine having to sit there and just endure fingers being broken 1 by 1...

The stress and excruciating pain having to wait ...
The ironic relief me would feel after last finger broken because no more fingers to break....

HMNY will again be at risk of being delisted before EOY. Cap this.

>>10422216
Then I'd break your toes

why is this allowed

>>10422292
Make the bad man stop.

so I think I have new insight to why FB tanked

Europe's GDPR caused them to lose over 1 million subscribers
(on top of low subscriber growth globally)

funny, EU tries to kill google, and they only became stronger
EU vaguely brushes facebook, and they come crashing down

>>10420909
>he isnt a shabbos goy indexed in ITEQ
riding 12% year gains

pinduoduo IPO tomorrow on nasdaq

>>10422205
Infinity

>>10421246
Noone in the industry uses open CL for automotive machine learning, everyone is on CUDA so nvidia is pumping and gonna keep pumping

>>10422376

Microsoft's multiple revenue streams make me hard

>>10422205
>>10421698
Write credit spreads, you idiot, then you won't have unlimited risk

>>10422216
seriously what the heck is wrong with you

>>10421051
What's wrong with Degiro? I use it, seems fine

>>10422376
>>10422475
Seems like the only consumer products that Microsoft still cares about these days are the XBOX and Surface.
-Sent from my abandoned Lumia 950XL.

BUY SQQQ

>>10422216
Lol faggot you would be crying for your mom after the first finger. Seriously kill yourself.

>>10422376
At least GOOGL is dumping tons of money into RD. They just need to convert it into revenue.

>>10422552
>MFW had to give up my windows phone
Best UI I've ever had on a phone. RIP.

>>10422552

Don't worry bro I still use my Zune HD even though it's starting to fall apart. Greatest dedicated music player ever made.

Overeaction

Facebook will only be down 10% in the morning, which is still a great time to buy in

>>10422531
Rkg's clinically insane, I mean I would be if I pretended to be a grill all day and still lost money

>>10420797
Complete brainlet starter. I put in very little starting cash into ETFs. of 45 I have invested over about 4 or so etfs, I made 30 cents.
Which is 30 cents more than if I did nothing.

I'm learning. Most of the threads here are dedicated to bitcoin and crypto in general. I made a minor killing before the bubble burst there. Helped me get my debts clear and put me into the black enough to begin looking at investing proper.
I can't do too much at a time, at best 2600 a year into etfs

>>10420797
Hey biz do you think you could find a longer fucking video for learning options?
I dont think 3.5 hours is long enough.

>>10422622
Correct, 10% lower than it is currently.

>>10422567
>>10422635
It's probably from the severely terminal disease (s)he has you rude fucks
> Doctors just had "the talk" ( the you'll probably be dead by next year talk) with her today

Harrowing stuff really

>>10422636
Just by SPY and DIA whenever either of them have a red day

>>10422577
Good news is that Googles moonshots are real game changers, while apples moonshots are basically overjoyed marketing ploys

>>10422475
I feel old, I can still remember when Xbox was a huge net loss dragging Microsoft down (Xbox and early-mid X360 days)
Changing office from software you purchase to subscriptions you pay yearly was a great idea for them, it's done wonders for Autodesk so far

FB put sellers on suicide watch..

>>10422732
Read articles on investopedia. If you don't understand options after that then I highly recommend not managing your own finances.

Got damn am I glad I didn’t listen to the FB “BUY THE DIP” shills.

>>10422796
Right now I have SCHD and a few others like VGT,
I suspect VGT might take a hit tomorrow.
Tell me, is 100 a week a reasonable investment into ETFS?

>>10422272
toes no very painful for break
you should smash toes with hammer :)

>>10422567
pls kek
have had me fingers eaten away by immune system
bone and join looked like swiss cheese
your breaking fingers would feel like massage

>>10422531
me am... TOO sane

>>10422635
@_@ its not like me beg for donations or anything

>>10422922
>three months of gains wiped out in one afternoon.
BUY THE 20% DIP?

>>10422985
cheeeeese

>>10423000
checked

>>10423000
crazy thing is the earnings miss was only 1% and their financials are not too bad.
So consider amazon has a big miss, and their valuations are completely maxed on hype already. 25% drop would be on the low end. But timing is a bitch.

but i've been saying this for weeks. If you have 1 trillion in marketcap, how much more can you grow? Vs how much can you lose if people just lose interest in facebook?

>>10420965

OILU is better than USO if you like to go fast

>>10422980
Yes, any ammount you can is reasonable, whether it's $1 or $1000
The sooner you start, the sooner that money can compound into growth

t. I started with $30 in my account, then just added a little more from my paycheck every week

>>10421217
brent to 80 this year

Facebook calls seem like a good idea sometime in the next 2 days

Traps confirmed gay
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9wypiujiA#

>>10423101
How much of that is deposits and how much is gains?

>>10423101
Is there a formula can use to determine when compounding should begin becoming visible?
At this point as I'm tossing in whatever scraps I can afford to throw, I'm also trying to get as much information that will be beneficial as possible. Most of these investing sites just give the bland basics, but after a certain point, they become redundant. So something like a compounding formula or a roadmap towards where my investments begin growing faster helps me to understand where I am, where I should be, and what milestones are reasonable.

>>10422985
Sorry I was just memeing, i actually find your nonsense way of typing pretty funny.

>>10422804
This. I need more Reddit salt please.

>>10422804
stupid walking pair of breasts ;_;

>>10423142
it shows you in the pic, (+1550) is gains
38% very solid

>>10423142
Rh adjusts their portfolio performance charts so that deposits are not included so they do in fact display correct info

Next week YOLOS: ~$30k GOOGL puts, ~$105k FB calls, ~$57.5k twitter calls, ~$33k AMZN calls, ~$63k AMZN LEAPS.YOLO (self.wallstreetbets)

>>10423090
got ITM calls
i dont need it to go faster desu

>>10423082
>If you have 1 trillion in marketcap, how much more can you grow?
they could declare themselves a sovereign nation. that could open up some interesting channels for potential growth
>Vs how much can you lose if people just lose interest in facebook?
apparently 20% lol
20% of AMZN in a day would probably be enough to trigger the circuit breaker by itself

>>10423308
>FB calls
RIP

>>10423308
holy yikes

>>10423142

>+$1,550.47

$4,100 is my deposited money
(apparently robinhood has magic'd away 6 cents from me over the years)

>>10423148
>Is there a formula can use to determine when compounding should begin becoming visible?
it all depends on what you buy, and when
besides that im affraid I have no specific formula for that (i think half of my gains have been from holding AMZN for a year)

>Most of these investing sites just give the bland basics, but after a certain point, they become redundant.
if there was a magical way to always gain money, you wouldnt give it away, and even if you did, someone would figure out why its working, and they would change that
if you knew the secret formula to turn water into gold would you tell everyone you saw how to? no, because it would no longer be a valuable thing to do, if everyone was able to do it
and random chance (black swan events especially) means that there is no magical formula to win always anyways

the only guaranteed formula to make money is to sell for a higher price than what you bought, how you do that is another challenge altogether

here is a basic graph explaining compounding interest in bank accounts, and considering SP500 and DJIA regularly make 20%-30% gains in a year instead of 0.5% like bank dividends, youll notice it sooner than these graphs show

to be honest, learning math skills (up to calculus, understanding derivatives and integrals) will probably help you way more than any meme stock trading "tip" will, at least in the long run

>>10423308
larpers love wsb.

>>10423308
Most of your trades are more than I make a year
>feelsguywearingahappymask.jpeg
>>10423328
Where’s the first circuit breaker? 5%?
>>10423347
Thanks. My mind is fried right now.

think it's a group trying to fleece retailers?

>>10423374
the balls on this guy

>>10423229
Cope harder, chestlet

What happens if Xi starts liquidating US treasuries?

>>10423388
>>10423374
i checked his post history on reddit

he started with $60k, and brought it up to nearly $350k in a year

i mean, he did lose half of that in the past few days, but still impressive

>>10423067
whew lad, your pretty bullish
>>10423180
y-ou ... t-.. t-ooo

>>10423067

>>10423347
Looks like I have an excuse to put the calculus I have learned getting my Geology degree to work then...
Thanks for the chart and the reality check.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/leaked-benchmarks-show-intel-is-dropping-hyperthreading-from-i7-chips

it's like intel WANTS to cede market share to AMD

>>10422804
sauce. now

>>10423444
will cope only way how.... dead women picutes

>>10423102
the fact oil is bulling at all past the 4th is pretty impressive desu

>>10423335
even scarier.
these were this guys hedge against another similarly sized NFLX short gone awry. i dont know what made him think that all these companies financials fates are tied together, but its become clear that reddit is not living in the same reality plane as us

>>10423372
7% for 15mins
then 13% for 15mins
then 20% hard stop

>>10423486
look up the 10nm horror stories on /g/

>>10423458
kinda looks like it was sheer fucking luck and the fact that last year was the easiest market in the world

this has been part of my bearish thesis for a while now. theres a lot of dumb money that thinks of FB as a bank account. theres no way wall st is gonna let that happen for too long. like today, when 1/5th of FB got taken out AH. fuckers got robbed

>>10423450
china's econemy starts shrinking
if china liquidating US treasuries is like them shooting us in the foot, then its like sawing off their own legs too

any short term gain they get from it will be offset by the sudden end of growth in their own economy

and besides, there is no other consumer market nearly the size of america's to buy their cheap crap instead
there would be massive layoffs in china across the board, every sector

it may lead to protests in the US from the handfull of people who miss out on a pay raise(and pissed off CEO's of course), but there would be riots in china from the entire towns/small cities that suddenly experience 50% or more unemployment

and besides, only a little over 30% of us treasuries are owned by foreign governments, the FED alone has 15%, our state governments have another 5% or so too

>>10423517
>/g/

go there for the home computer build threads, and maybe the workstation threads, but avoid the rest like the plague

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/25/tech-stocks-poised-for-bloodbath-on-thursday-with-facebook-on-track-fo.html

>>10423566

Thanks anon.

>>10423550

I kind of agree with you - we're on a 9 year bull market. You could have had a strategy that just tracks with the market and you'd have made a profit. I'm not saying that every gain has been pure luck but I want to see who gets wiped out in a crash and who doesn't.

>>10423620
I'M SCARED

>>10423620
FB am only down 5% EOD tomorrow
ever one know it

>>10420833

>>10423620
Is it time for shoe shine man to sing the blues?

>>10423476
no problem

the main difficulty in stocks is the math, and the jargan, which can be mostly picked up from investopia

/smg/ if great for memes and the occasional insider trading tips, but most of the advice you get on most (if not all) stock trading websites is bs, retarded, or bagholders trying to get a new sucker to buy their bags

always be skeptical if someone says they "know" if a stock will go up or down, because they dont decide that, the market does, and the market can be irrational for far longer than you can be solvent

>>10423682
Forgot pic

>>10423620
>The Nasdaq Composite Index hit a record during trading Wednesday as investors crowded back into the FANG names once again. Facebook was responsible for a lot of that boost, jumping 1 percent during regular trading.
Didn't every FANG stock go up around 1 percent? How was facebook "responsible for a lot" when every other names rose the same amount?

>>10423677
SHIT

>>10423713
everything was green 2 to 1 red today
it pure BULL POOP

https://www.bloombergquint.com/technology/2018/07/25/zuckerberg-loses-16-8-billion-in-a-snap-as-facebook-plunges
Hey, we know why Cuckerburg has been dumping shares for weeks now!

>>10423517
God, Kelly is so fucking hot.

In other news, looks like it's just Cheeto man vs. 'Jina now.

>>10423897
It will be a BLOOD RED day for tech tomorrow.

new to business. really dumb question: isnt it a great time to buy stock when it plummets, like facebook now? after all, it can only go up from here, right? so its like guaranteed money to buy when its super low, as it will inevitably get higher?

>>10423916
Yes.
But also, check out this cool little bank called Bear Stearns. It did a thing back around '08 or '07.
I think there was another one called Lehman Brothers or some shit that did the same thing.

>>10423914
how severely do you think AMD will be affected?

>>10423916
Depends on why it plummets. Stocks are fundamentally valued at the discounted present value of all future cash flows.

Facebook has just publicly announced that it expects less cash flows in the future (than previously expected).

>>10423969
no connection between fb and amd.

>>10423905

>media isn’t going to give Trump props for bringing the EU to heel after tariffing our shit under Obama

>>10423905
>strike deal

Trump told those fucking clowns what was up

>>10423969
I have no idea.
They're not super related, but still tech with high P/E, so probably a few percent

>>10424000
Of course not.
It "looks" like he's "all talk" as my Jewish friend loves to say about Cheeto man, but oh boy, EU was totally covering our shit in tariffs before.
Ohbummer was a tard that just made the media feel good.
>>10424093
Fuck yeah.
Poor little 'Jina is all alone against The Big Bad Cheeto Man now.

> Buy ford calls before earnings
> they shit the bed
> the company is already so low (trading at it's book value pretty much) that the stock doesn't even go below where I bought the calls
Hang in there, boomer stock. Now I just need T to hit 29 so I can back up the truck and load up on that 7% yield

>>10423905

I'm still skeptical but if it works out then that's good.

I'm starting to think I should give up day trading and just short or call ERs. It would be more work having to look up everything and think of ways they can fail, but much more rewarding. A handful would give me enough to live off and it's easy enough to make safety nets. My risk reward ratio on Facebook was 20-1 I could fail 19 times and still make cash.

So if we crash a good 15%, it's protocol to buy metals at the bottom, right?

>>10424319
ERs are a fucking gamble.
Zero correlation between an earnings beat or miss and a % rise or drop next day.

This thread constantly recycles noobs who learn their lessons and then disappear after finally building a strategy

It’s kind of amazing, I started a little over a year ago and there’s the same carbon copy misunderstandings and fantasies

>>10424380
Did someone say..... metals?

>>10424380
Kek
I think that works best for recessions, not this baby shit.
I'm gaining more and more faith in baggie's prediction for The Big One on Friday.
Might cash out my bank shares tomorrow.

Are consumer staples going to rise tomorrow? I'd like to cash them out a fair deal as well.
I'm pretty sure TLT will moon off this.

>>10424400
But it always has a reason behind it. Haliburton has pipeline issues, anyone who can think outside the box knew that. CEO of Facebook was dumping stocks like crazy. Eu was strangling them with the new laws. They were reporting people to cops for hatespeech against CHILD RAPISTS. Was it really too far of a guess that in the next few it would have to drop?

>>10424417
I know :(
I'm planning/hoping to stick around a lot more this round.

>>10424474
Yeah, a good few are predictable. But, sometimes you just think you know exactly what'll happen and it does the exact fucking opposite.
I'm excited for DB on Friday. I will not pretend like I know what'll happen. I was calling some anon with a tinfoil hat on about whales a total moron a few weeks ago, but he still unfortunately came out on top like I thought he would.

>>10424417
yes, the memes change, but the people act the same

>>10424319
>biogen dip

Sweet, was just waiting for this to happen

>>10424566
>the memes change
I miss people in /rgt/ saying "ah shit, I got meme'd" and more people gaming stupid biopharma shit.
Do you remember that thing called StickerBitch's calendar of memes and dreams?
Some guy also posted his strategy for daytrading JNUG and JDST. I got it saved somewhere still. It was the shit, although I never tried it nor understood it. I remember so much more goldbug enthusiasm, but now I just dismiss them as shitposters.

>>10421619
those are some pretty cool indicators could u enlighten me on them. and is the bottom one ccm?

>>10424670
>I miss people in /rgt/ saying "ah shit, I got meme'd" and more people gaming stupid biopharma shit.
you mean /rhg/?
>Do you remember that thing called StickerBitch's calendar of memes and dreams?
its a shame we dont have a google doc of earnings and memes still, i used to have that bookmarked and opened every day

>Some guy also posted his strategy for daytrading JNUG and JDST. I got it saved somewhere still. It was the shit, although I never tried it nor understood it. I remember so much more goldbug enthusiasm, but now I just dismiss them as shitposters.

to be fair Metal lord anhero'd after gold crashed i think ( he was a huge shill for that gold stock that was $0.50, that eventually crashed into the teens)

and to be fair, most of them were shitposters, pic related

MGT rocketing was great though, and the mcaffee memes rolling right into AMD shilling (and saving half of the board)

>ceru muh nigga

>>10424747
Fibbonachi levels, and the bottom is a bunch of moving averages ( red is 300 days, purple is 10 days)

pic unrelated

>>10424855
sorry to be a fag but how do I make shit like that in TV?

>>10423969

we moon tomorrow. $20 EOD

>>10424903
ask someone else to code them for you is what i did...

//@version=3
study('ciovacco', overlay=true)
sma1 = sma(ohlc4, 10)
sma2 = sma(ohlc4, 20)
sma3 = sma(ohlc4, 30)
sma4 = sma(ohlc4, 40)
sma5 = sma(ohlc4, 50)

sma6 = sma(ohlc4, 60)
sma7 = sma(ohlc4, 70)
sma8 = sma(ohlc4, 80)
sma9 = sma(ohlc4, 90)
sma10 = sma(ohlc4, 100)

sma11 = sma(ohlc4, 110)
sma12 = sma(ohlc4, 120)
sma13 = sma(ohlc4, 130)
sma14 = sma(ohlc4, 140)
sma15 = sma(ohlc4, 150)

sma16 = sma(ohlc4, 160)
sma17 = sma(ohlc4, 170)
sma18 = sma(ohlc4, 180)
sma19 = sma(ohlc4, 190)
sma20 = sma(ohlc4, 200)

sma21 = sma(ohlc4, 210)
sma22 = sma(ohlc4, 220)
sma23 = sma(ohlc4, 230)
sma24 = sma(ohlc4, 240)
sma25 = sma(ohlc4, 250)

sma26 = sma(ohlc4, 260)
sma27 = sma(ohlc4, 270)
sma28 = sma(ohlc4, 280)
sma29 = sma(ohlc4, 290)
sma30 = sma(ohlc4, 300)

plot(sma1, title='10', color=#4B0082, linewidth=3, style=line)
plot(sma2, title='20', color=#4B0082, linewidth=1, style=line)
plot(sma3, title='30', color=#4B0082, linewidth=1, style=line)
plot(sma4, title='40', color=#4B0082, linewidth=1, style=line)
plot(sma5, title='50', color=#4B0082, linewidth=1, style=line)

plot(sma6, title='60', color=#0000FF, linewidth=3, style=line)
plot(sma7, title='70', color=#0000FF, linewidth=1, style=line)
plot(sma8, title='80', color=#0000FF, linewidth=1, style=line)
plot(sma9, title='90', color=#0000FF, linewidth=1, style=line)
plot(sma10, title='100', color=#0000FF, linewidth=1, style=line)

plot(sma11, title='110', color=#00FF00, linewidth=3, style=line)
plot(sma12, title='120', color=#00FF00, linewidth=1, style=line)
plot(sma13, title='130', color=#00FF00, linewidth=1, style=line)
plot(sma14, title='140', color=#00FF00, linewidth=1, style=line)
plot(sma15, title='150', color=#00FF00, linewidth=1, style=line)
plot(close)
...
(this goes on until there are 30 points)
...

>>10423475
>Futures down only .24% still
Im calling it a win for golden bulls :3

>>10424903
and the one someone just made me today...

https://pastebin.com/QVQf7D2U

(i'll probably delete these posts in a few minutes, its bed time)

>>10423905
I'm skeptical. Tariffs and subsidies are two sides of the same coin, and there's no way we're going to zero subsidies. Most likely outcome is that both sides make small concessions and score a few political points with no major changes overall.

>>10424963
wow thanks a lot dude these are awesome

tfw when
>shorting facebook for 8 months straight
>lose money all year long
>lose money also today
ama I promise this is possible it happened . tfw timings off just kind of slightly from prediction 8 months ago. dammit. hopefully making bank on everything soon though. We’ll see.

>>10425020
not everyone here has to be rude faggots

;)

>>10425039
Also .. tfw when everyone made fun of me for shorting tech the last 8 months straight.

>>10425039
congrats on this

Go into HMNY price history. At it's peak 1 share (today) was worth over 2 million dollars LMFAO

>>10421141
>NFLX

very risky business now that #metoo is part of hollywood and the filming industry. also the stock is in a bubble.

>>10425082

LOL!

>>10425217
how is it a bubble if it corrected? only up from here lad

>>10424426
At least buy coins, nigga. Then you have some numismatic value in case the metals get manipulated down.

>>10425309
>not trading options on silver ETFs

>>10425329
I thought you wanted to buy metal, not paper?

>>10425249
Netflix is called cult stock for a reason.

>>10425353
For my purposes, it's literally the same and one is about a thousand times more liquid

>>10425056
Thank you. It truly is remarkable. I feel ok though because the other big one I’m shorting heavily is Twitter. Crash imminent hold on boyos. Sadly I sold off a chunk of twitter earlier (well, bought , but anyway) because I was more confident about Facebook down that I was about Twitter. Turns out I was correct as of today, but timed wrong. I thought nearer toward end of summer . I’ve been watching options fluctuations on tech pretty closely for a while now. last time tech correction downward went fb first then twitter . and the middle parts of the curve started going bonkers when the market couldn’t figure out overall up or overall down . Hopefully same thing again. And if it FB stays lowish for just a teeny bit longer I think I’ll come out very ok. We’ll see , people must be expecting a pretty big correction upwards to put my sept/oct FB shorts even further underwater after today. held for 8 months already, I’ll hold it a bit more. twitter bags gotta feel pretty heavy right about now . Plus twitter gained on FB news all day? Yeah right. Just saw market movement about an hour ago so I’m just now getting up to speed on what happened. Also, quick rant — something that drives me completely nuts is how they figure out options pricing when the ask price is 0.0 , they just average the difference between the ask and the ask and the bid. But on super far end of the curves the spread is super wide so the price just ends up fluctuating like crazy without any actual buying or selling taking place, which makes all the percent change tyoe things totally wrong and annoying and misleading. for instance, one of my FB puts shows a +22,500% percent change today. Which would be amazing , except nothing actually happened those aren’t the real prices since the bid price didn’t move at all only the ask did.

>>10425402
lol alright

>>10425402
sorry, not when bid is zero, just anytime when ask moves but not bid

>>10425402
>I'm_not_reading_all_that_shit_nigger.gif

>>10425455
k stay poor sperg

>>10425466
Here's what your need to know:
UVXY
That's literally it

>>10425402
hey bud i was long on sand companies and people posted beach pictures making fun of me
valuation now 5.50 to 22 dollars by end of year, upgrades will bring me higher

-40% while contracts are on margin put me pretty deep into fear though
I'll never ever do that again; it's not healthy

get your MCD meme ready
Tomorrow is unironically critical for for fast food

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hlScYKSI80

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b44Fv9q-YGM

>>10423969

AMD is bot called the eternal meme stock here since /rhg/ was created which is now /smg/. It can go up on factors no other stocks go up and be the only big green tech stock in a sea of red and fall when ever tech stock is green for some stupid reason. It's amazing how Robinhood rates it low for its margin volatility requirements despite the fact.

>>10425542
>sand companies
what the hell is a sand company. People needing a lot of sand this year? jk whatever congrats for real gains is gainz & I’m happy somebody knows about sand.

>>10425648
fracking sand
you use it to create oil derricks

i did the math for a bit and got really autistic about this for a spell; this was about as low as it could go then it went lower
there's still time to get in; or you can watch from the side and take a silent note, I trust you'll make the correct choice on what to do tomorrow no matter what

>>10425622

Absolutely based

>>10425730
hmm well thanks for the vote of confidence I guess but I don’t trust that I will make the right choice at all tomorrow since i literally just this moment found out that sand companies has something to do with fracking meme. I’ll just bet on oil. Already in on that but only just barely , and i also know literally nothing about oil I just trade it like it’s one of the currency type pairs and related to geopolitics not companies. but I’ll check out your sand company if you want to throw out some good names in sand. not buying anything though until I stop being underwater. soon as I start being right on tech I’ll think about other things. I’ve been watching this for 8 months so I’m ready to move somewhere else anyway once I can unwind this thing I’m in with tech. which I think hopefully will be somewhat soon

>>10425730
Also awesome pic it’s mesmerizing. Who is she should I know her?

>>10425622
Robinhood rates TSLA low volatility. Basically everything short of UVXY is low volatility on robinhood.

>>10425249
>Corrected
No sweety, watch FB. NFLX is high up on the list of who's next.

....so what happens if AMZN misses tomorrow? does the entire FANG tank 20%?

>>10425810
belief is that FB is oversold; there will be enough volitile tech companies that you can place your puts and calls well; tomorrow will be incredible if you know what you're doing and a very nice learning experience about the tech sector; learn how to read a corporate balance sheet if you have not prior to now and look at every tech company's enterprise value versus market cap

>>10425850
fauux is a pretty cool dude, he's the art-guy but I don't know what the models names are

>>10425920
nyse freezes, circuit breakers activate

I got AMD 7/27 14 calls that I bought at 2.01. Hopefully I have a pleasant morning with 50%+ natty gains. FB better not piss in my cheerios.

Im going to buy my first option ever, and its going to be a put against faceberg.
Cheers to making some profit.

Daily motivation

>all these kids playing options
>I had to apply on a paper form back in the day and have real experience from a trading firm
>built and graphed volatility models to make 300% a year pushing me into the max scale of around 5 million and securing my financial future in this dog eat dog part of the market
>now they give these privileges to 18 year old kids with $300 in their account who think IV means just a bit more expensive :^) and that options are just non-margin leverage
Man, where were these kids when i played? Now all the new guys on the block get to rob these zoomers left and right.

Theres blood in the water today and blood in the skies.}

Unrelated, but sometimes be is predicting Doge coin spikes with 2second accuracy, any idea what this Japanese looking text is?

So im basically waiting for a good time to buy my first stocks. Im trying to get a little bit of all the big tech companies (amd msft fb twtr aapl etc...). Should i wait for a crash or just buy now?

>>10427161
Wait after Amazon's earnings call. Out of the companies you've listed, I'd pick Microsoft and AMD. If Amazon does well, you'd be better off buying an ETF rather than buying their stock directly.

>>10427161
good time to buy high now then sell low when amzn shits the bed and Qs crash on friday

>>10427283
Only tech stock I'd buy into right now is AMD. They are poised to take significant market share from intel which will generate years of growth. The other techs (except maybe google) are priced very aggressively for growth. If it slows down at all, you could see what happened to facebook today happen to any of them.

Also consider looking away from tech. It's hot right now but you get better prices on jackets in the summer than you do swimsuits.

>>10427317
I was honestly very iffy about mentioning Microsoft because of what you've mentioned. I definitely wouldn't hold their stock for as long as I would hold AMD.

>>10425730
shill me fucking sand companies muh nigga

>>10426645
>Im going to buy my first option ever
>and its going to be a put against faceberg.
>Cheers to making some profit.
wew
well, part of me feels like i should just let nature take its course here, but, you do realize that buying long put options after a stock corrects 20% overnight is going to give you FUCK HUGE IV, right? the risk of vol turning even a little and crushing your position outright is very high.

watch the IV on the ask. if its too high, dont buy it. and if you dont believe me, ask hi IV anon.

>>10426690
this

tho you may be more right than you know. they give anyone w a pulse the capability to buy long options. but a lot of brokers lock the risk defined spreads behind "level 2".
it probably IS just a fucking scam to get kids to give option writers their fucking money

Why is AMZN still priced like a startup?

>>10427630
how do you mean?
ive never seen a startup trading at 1800/shr

but either way, the answer is that bezos is a CIAnigger, and has friends in the SECniggers

Prepare for incoming bloodbath of the century in 3 hours.

huge sale on BILI if anyone is interested.

btw nikkei
im gonna need that picture full of gumballs if this shit is really goin down

>>10427749
scratch that

>>10427500
sand-anons top picks for "Sanding It Up™"; sand up your life and lose hair over the stress of oil prices

reasons for U.S. production oil going up = U.S. produced oil can now be sold by U.S, Permian basin, currently pipeline is bottle-necking output but pipeline will soon be expanded which will lead to a glut of production, oil companies scrambling to drill baby drill due to the recently lifted restrictions
more selling of oil to markets around the world (but mostly china); plastic will need production, fuel, synthetic production and all that crap

so when the restrictions were lifted; texas needed sand to create the wells; and the production of a well is a 10-ish year affair so they needed a lot of fucking sand; about 2.5 million pounds at the minimum, 7 million at the most; when the permian rush began sand companies set up shop shortly after; a few companies then a lot of companies, enough to make investors worried that there was an over abundance of them

so they've been flying under everybodies radar. you might take notice, as a good investor would that SND's short ratio was 35%, that analysts were giving sell ratings and that the company was making bullish mine aquisitions; positive P/E in the first 2 years of being a fucking company. I can't remember where the site listed the amt. of sand they had to sell, but I did a lot of math and figured out that these companies don't have enough sand, not nearly enough for the rate that derricks are being built

so I took out options, long strongly bullish options about 2 months out and low and behold, we got some winners in the last week;
HCLP; the strongest, most established company making bullish statements, bullish acquisitions, .75 cent fucking dividend a QUARTER, strong buy at the moment
SND; no div, weaker but highly undervalued, even now extremely low despite recent 5% uptick, value play
SLCA; has U.S. in the name and short ratio is still high, undervalued and has regained bull sentiment

>>10427777
checked
this should sit well w my long oil plays
do the sand companies usually move alongside oil?

>>10422292
DCA at 28.

>>10427844
hahaha oh fuck no they just make about 50% of their company value every year
some of the sand companies were (last month historically, check their charts) only following oil down, and ignoring when U.S. oil prices increased
(institutional fear of peak oil? fear of tariffs on biggest buyer of oil? ultimately should not have effected sand company pricing, yet it did)

SND was particularly susceptible to downward movements, along with SLCA for the last 2 months, it's why I think it's a good play
I do want to inform you that I'm holding a lot of SND contracts; but I put a lot of money into these companies because they're printing money at the moment

Must... buy... bookface.....

>>10427931
im looking at SND the most desu
might do the same thing i did w wheat. harvest ITM calls for while, then take muh gainz and exercise the last few of my ITM calls

>>10420956
In one year it lost 99% in value and it's peak being 8000 dollars!
What the fuck happened?

>>10427957
RKG; I meant to ask you

you were talking about 'getting serious' now, what's your big fucking plan slugger
how do you plan to make 5 nickles and 2 pennies today?

>>10427984
the magic number is 7.5 strike; earnings is coming up
cheap cheap, lucky lotto ticket replacements right there if you got 15 bucks to spare

>>10428000
no you stupid faggot it was never 8k/shr

>>10428018
the deltas are lower than i like usually, but the delta/cost ratio looks good
ill look into it, thx sandpai

Anyone have suggestions on good charting software for options?

>>10428018
Kek
Me plans 4 day almost always profits
But me always blow profits on stupid stuff (like buying facebook)

No more buying stupid stuff, sticking 2 plan 100%

>>10428060
like options prices themselves?
or P/L graphs?

i like this for the latter
http://optioncreator.com
and muh schwab platform has a decent enough options price chart

My body is ready.

>>10428021

IQ wall for today is 34.20. Will be watching it attentively. If it hits could close over 35.

>>10428104
PL is what I meant thanks

!!!! This must be what making it feel like

>>10428167
Kill yourself

>>10428124
google 'what the fuck happened to DRYS' exactly like that, also worth looking up is 'investopedia reverse splits'
also HMNY is a pretty good value play; terrible story about the company being run into the ground like that by that dementia ridden CEO

when they finally get the board of director restructuring approved; it's a smooth sail to 50$ at least
easy money, but you might wanna do your own research into them to figure out a good sell point, might wanna just put 100 into the company and forget about the money for a month

>>10428135
And then crash back down after hours like it does everyday crushing my hopes.

>>10428172
can not you just b happy 4 me KYS poster ;_;

>>10428207

>>10428207
Post tits and make us happy

>>10428192
>HMNY
Just stop

>>10428204
It dropped when cuckbook crashed with everything, a duck could fart and it would effect this stock. Negative sentiment in vaguely similar sectors causes it to move up or down by a little. Its still up from where it started yesterday though.

Friendly reminder to buy EPOL. It's going to ride upwards for at least a few weeks.

>>10428257
go eat cane's chicken in 120 degree wet gulf heat, cowboy fuckman

(how bad's the temp today, southerner?)

>>10428099
O-one last g-amble.... *sweaty cat eyes grin*

>>10420881
Because it rhymes.dumb people love middle school tier literaryndevices

>>10428368
Don't do it, kneepads

Also threadly reminder that we're in a second tech bubble and there's a blood moon tomorrow

>>10428336
You remind me of that trip that used to shill DRYS to every newfag ITT saying it was such a value.
Also only fat slobs can’t handle the heat.

>>10428192
>You should do the math for every reverse split and value stock from its origin.
Wow look at this s.oy cuck

You still have time to sell before "The Big One".

>>10428484
Unless you were holding shares of cuckerburg's kikebook. Then you're fucked m8.

>>10428490
I have some etfs myself. Some of which are tied into FB. So I'm curious to see if they will take a hit today. I kind of hope not. But I'm not good enough at the stock market yet to actually be able to do trading in real time to make some money.

>>10428433
I've never used a tripcode, I used a name once and felt like such a faggot that I just dropped it immediately
there were people making pretty good memes of TVIX for a time; miss those memes, too bad they got old
making tripcodes, posting guro, namefags shitposting and filling half a thread with RKG-posting is the new meme, huh?

the west coast has gotten really bad with heat, it hasn't rained in 2 weeks where I am
I miss being fat and happy

>>10428544
>>10428544
>>10428544
New thread

>>10428542
The whole nasdaq is fucked today. The future is shale, not these snake oil salesmen with their electric cars and internet marketplaces.

>>10428551
>RKG
Attention whores gonna attention whore. She’d find away to do it with or without a name.
It’s been about two weeks for us. The heat broke some so it hasn’t been too bad. Last week was brutal though. I’m hoping for more rain to wash away the African dust that blowing in. It’s got a lot of people sick.