/biz/ - Business & Finance

here is an article from 2010 comparing alternative currencies (including cryptographic currencies):
https://socialcompare.com/en/comparison/alternative-currencies-monetary-systems

>>10370167
early 2011*, you must check out the table, super interesting.

>>10370130
It’s the Napster of cloud computing. It potentially offers some serious competition to some major tech giants and their comfy multi hundred billion $ cloud industry.

We’re in a bear market, it’s only on idex and only biz (which is down to about 50 users now) knows about it at the moment.

I bought into the ICO, Holochain has nothing to do with crypto.
They was working on Holochain, then after crypto exploded they hopped on then decided to fundraise and use ERC20 token as a placeholder for their holo fuel.

I repeat again, holochain has nothing to do with crypto in the first place. The holofuel will be used on the Holo application built on Holochain only.

The holochain organization controls the supply of holo fuel with their reserves, making holo fuel supply centralized since it can be controlled by a central authority.

Whats more is that developers or people hosting applications don't need to accept holo fuel at all.

Also you must give away your identity (KYC) to be able to cash our to fiat using their reserves.

Holochain is stricktly non private since it gives away your IP address and since its P2P platform its not good for storage since who would store your shit for free.

Holochain already has application and platform since years ago, but without the holo fuel, people host together for free without the need of any payment of sorts.

The Holochain platform maybe good, but the holo fuel value propersition isn't.

All that matters is that we will probably see 1000 vitaliks this year

>>10370237
btw just my thoughts on holo. I don't believe in its adoption or it will get far.
Still holding some of my ICO tokens incase it moons and I can sell off before its holo fuel swap.

>>10370237
lol. so its a super shitcoin biz wanted to meme me into once again to unload their -90% bags

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>10370237
The supply of holo fuel is algorithmic, Satoshi doesn't control the supply of BTC because it can increase with mining. GTFO retard

Holofuel is essential to the system as backing for hosting. It therefore has something most crypto doesn't have and that is real world value backing.

>>10370285
I keep seeing that retard posting that shit every day. Every time I refuted his bullshit he never replied back. Now he keeps posting it. Either he is dumber than literal shit or he's just a faggot looking to accumulate for cheap. Ignore him.

>>10370336
Probably accumulating for cheap

>>10370237
The supply of Holofuel is algorithmic and designed to increase in price at a logarithmic rate while maintaining some semblance of price stability.

>>10370336
He probably holds NKN

>>10370212
This, we are the chosen few

>>10370237
exactly anon, you seem to be the only one who read the fucking whitepaper.

everyone else, go ask the team, they will admit that holo fuel is not needed to run a holochain dapp. it's basically optional, you could create your own currency instead of holo fuel. if holochain ever takes off, there will likely be many more currencies that may replace holo fuel.

holo fuel was just a semi-smart idea to fund the dev team, fuck that LGBT boomer team (one of the admins is a tranny guys, topkek)

>>10371433
Holochain by itself is fucking useless right now, you'll need HOLO if you want normies to use your hApps in browser. Or do you think they'll actually install and run holochain?

>ERC20
>next eth
>t. Brainlet.png

>>10370237
>>10371433
>ethereum isnt even necessary to eth guys, you can just use one of a thousand erc20s instead

exact same logic
the host currency is necessary for it otherwise it's all worthless

>>10371433
Except the company holo will be in debt once it launches

>>10371517
>ERC20 can not have more value than the chain itself

It is like saying that internet companies can not have more value than the infrastructure (aka worth of the internet). Ethereum does not need to have much value by design, it literally just exists to incentivize miners an dpay gas (of which you do not have to pay that much on a tech level).

If there were an ERC20 tokenized assets, these tokens could have more value.

>>10371498
And for hosting it's probably best you use the currency the company made and have backed with their word to be in debt for

>>10371498
ffs, no matter how you look at it you don't neccessarily need HOLO. you could as well come up with your own hosting platform + currency and i swear this will happen if holochain becomes remotely popular.

people have to realize HOT is just a shitcoin (hosting ico) on top of the holochain platform, it won't moon like ether / ethereum.

>>10371528
it's not the same mate, please check the whitepaper for once.

>>10371612
this.

>>10371612
it will moon at least 10x more

>>10371612
exact same with ripple, doesnt change a thng

>>10371433
>nobody will use facebook because the internet is free and anyone can create their own version

>>10371612
Nobody has the early mover advantage, funding and general understanding of Holochain that the developers of Holochain do, but please, do create your own platform. The hosting platform is one of the most important pieces of the whole puzzle but since you're a retard you'll never figure it out.

>>10371780
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>>10371780
if holochain ever attracts billions, i can assure you there will be an army of chinks, and phd teams lining up to create an alternative to HOT (holo.host). If there is money to be made devs WILL 100% build alternatives.

>>10372004
There's armies of chinks creating bitcoin clones right now, but have any of them taken its place?

>>10371765
>what stops people from just copying the source code of Ethereum

I think it is better to invest in pic related, cause it is a real token with limited supply and needed to use the network (not optional).

They are also partnering with holo, so if holo lifts of this coins should do the same (but also increase value) in contrast to holofuel

>>10372169
yeah Promether will be a game-changer, much better investment and very undervalued. they also use the same DHT technology that Holochain uses, but it's totally anonymous whereas Holochain has no privacy at all, rather KYC from hell.

>>10372037
chinkcoins (and altcoins in general) have for sure weakened the dominance of btc, that argument is absolutely pathetic anon

>>10372349
it worries me tho that they have not released any tech whitepaper. So unitl we have some proof I treat it as vaporware.

>>10372388
i watched some very interesting talks on YouTube, the founder really knows his shit, he was a lead dev at Rockstar Games and is well connected. But yeah, always be cautios with alts. I just think it's a safer investment than Holochain, because demand and marketcap are somewhat certain + it's anonymous.

>>10372388
where can i buy this new shitcoin

>>10372375
It's not, bitcoin is still by far the biggest crypto around and the combined worth of "alts" is mostly hot air. This will be the case with the holochain ecosystem too.

>>10370130
Holochain = napster for cloud computing. This decades old $150B industry is about to be brought to its knees by Holochain or something like it.

Dropbox market cap today = $12.41 Billion
Holochain market cap today = $78 million

Upside potential: 159x

Source:
https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/DBX:US

$5,000 Holo's purchased today x 159x = $795,000 return (assuming if Holo captures Dropbox's marketshare.

If Holo matches Ethereum's adoption, based on today's market cap that would indicate 602x. A $5000 investment in Holo would then imply a $3,010,000 return. Do note that just 2.5 years ago, one Ethereum was valued at 95c and the total marketcap for Ethereum was just $75 million. Ethereum is exactly where Holo is right now.

>>10372508
many alts are indeed garbage, but that is not true for protocols (eth, etc). the main thing you can't refute is that there will be other hosting tokens competing with HOT. At some point HOT / Holo demand may be replaced by something else since it's not a neccessity, period.

>>10372529
Normies don't give a shit about data privacy and owning their own data. Companies can make more money if they build centralized apps to control/exploit consumer data. So who the fuck is going to migrate to Holochain you dumbfuck? Delusional bagholders..

>>10372493
TBA join the promether newsletter

Why is HOLO being shilled on biz 24/7 in the past few days?

>>10370438
Regardless what you think of the tech, NKN has a much better shot at actually being adopted in real life than this holo bullshit and you know it

>>10372702
Never trust a slant

>>10372685
because it's a pump and dump. some newfags forgot to sell their bags a few weeks ago and are now trying to break even kek. don't buy this scam, better go for tezos or stellar.

>>10372668
fucking pajeet kys

>>10372685
Because it just went up 40% and they need newfags to dump their bags on

>>10372685
Upcoming Testnet and some announcements and things like that. Q4 is when Mainnet goes live.

>>10372802
holochain has no mainnet, found the pajeet.

>>10372741
I generally agree but they are operating out of Silicon Valley and have the backing of several big VCs in that area. Will the tech work? Hard to say. Is it a chink scam? No chance.

>>10372815
Correcttion, it's not mainnet. It's the beta of Holochain in Q4. Promether also sounds like a good pickup.

>>10370212
Fug, and all I can afford rn is a measly 550k

>>10372685
the tokenomics allow literally anyone have 1 mill or >. you are really seeing the beginning of the black hole that is going to consume all of crypto. just buy 1-2 mill and watch the tsunami of pajeets,reddit and youtubers in the coming month.

It's a scam. People are paying for boomer retirement housing.

sage

>>10373202
>calling other people pajeets while shilling a shitcoin like holo
Nice pajeet reverse psychology. Also tokenomics have zero impact on future potential faggot, except in your panjeet mind. Why would anybody want to hold 1M HOT ? It is still a totally useless shitcoin after the beta, regardless of how much you own kek

>>10370264
DYOR bro. I own holo, but all I will say is that it isn't your run of the mill chink scam. This board is good for leads but you have to make your own decisions.

>>10372349
Aren't they building their platform on Holochain?

>>10373408
No proof. No insight. Typical biztard.

>>10373423
you way overestimate peoples due diligence , they look at supply and fantasize about it hitting a buck and go all in

to all the newfags shitting on tech and team I'll say this:
all we care about is making motherfucking money. look at nano, look at iota, both shit coins but it made hard motherfucking cash

>>10373685
>Fucking THIS

I have sat here and laid it out to these neets. Look, the tech so far is sound and these guys will release their product. It's only a matter of time. How good will it be? We will only know months from now. What will happen till then? People are slowly going to wake up and see there's a new cool kid on the block and everyone will want in. I have studied Holo for many weeks and I know that even if it doesn't wildly succeed for some reason that there will still be a huge price run-up leading to the launch of the network. The fundamentals are TOO STRONG.

>>10373685
low effort shill, try harder

>>10373872
you can't compare holochain with blockchain because the fundamentals are totally different. holochain has mutual credit and dynamic supply. thinking this is the next moon mission is beyond retarded, especially because HOLO demand will likely be very low.

ffs, no matter how you look at it you don't neccessarily need HOLO. you could as well come up with your own hosting platform + currency and i swear this will happen if holochain becomes remotely popular.

people have to realize HOT is just a shitcoin (hosting ico) on top of the holochain platform, it won't moon like ether / ethereum.

>>10374182
but it will easily go another 5x, so who cares

>>10374203
> buy my bags sirs
thanks for admitting the fundamentals are weak and this is a pajeet pump and dump

>>10374305
i actually haven't even gone into details of holo that deeps so that I could argua on technicals with you. As i've said previously all i care about is flipping in for 5x in the coming months.this coin has everything it needs to be loved by normies. and i really dont give a fuck about technicals because all this market is a fucking meme

thinking holo solves a real world problem is a meme too. normal people couldn't care less about privacy or owning their data, see facebook. and big corporations have no interest in decentralization - they can make much more money if they alone own the data of their users. So who is actually going to use holochain? I can't think of any serious business use-case, except for crypto related bullshit.

>>10373872
this is the hold of the century, people getting in now, be stubborn af with it, make them pay big for your bag. everyone is gonna want a piece of this pie

>>10374567
sure, they will hodl. biz loves shitcoins. buy high sell low.

>>10373423
You clearly did not pay attention to Ripple during the bull run.