/biz/ - Business & Finance

First for occult fall of Amazon

Second for "The Big One" next Friday.

>>10350559
*Tuesday

Fourth for I love you all <3

>>10350591
Fifth for you too fren, I get lonely on the weekends when I can't talk to you guys

>>10350591
Must be tiresome, not to mention the herpes treatment bills.

Fifth for jew

Should I just go all in on FNGD?

First for short DKS

>>10350591
Luv u 2 <3<3<3<3
>>10350559
I'm happy you stopped being a degen

>>10350540
What would a post SHTF stock market look like? I imagine it would include hiring private investigators to follow your debtors together with using laminated contracts saying "I own five of your sheep, and two of your apple trees"

>>10350664
You don't need a stock market when all the economies are local.

>>10350664
So, the real redpill is that there won't be a SHTF, sorry. Just gradual but unstoppable American decline, similar to Russia in the 90s, followed by the hub of world commerce moving to wherever it moves to

>>10350664
Canned food and bullets are a fantastic investment once the systems that produce them are no longer present. Dry grain and water purification systems are also a strong buy.

>>10350685
Also this, the worst apocalypse is for none to occur. We're just headed into a half century of slow lowering of standards and gradual decay of established norms and institutions until we die.

>>10350685
I think Americans hate each other enough for the US to Balkanize, or at least become a commie hellhole like Argentina.

>>10350556
>digits
not yet i guess

First for JC Penny squeeze is over

>>10350727
Bang!

>>10350693
I think cigarettes and freeze dried veggies are good too. People need their vitamins and their fix, but what I meant was, you could finance a farmer by say, giving him however much of the local currency is needed to let him fix his barn, fuel his tractor, etc. By buying say his apple tree or 12 sheep or whatever and selling it back when he can afford it, or selling those sheep to another trader.

What would a portfolio centered around potatoes look like?
All Idaho companies
Peru ETF
Poland ETF
Ireland ETF
Russia ETF
Fertilizer companies
Potato futures

Remember to Giddy Up on Vol
More of big tech earnings are coming up again.

Is it just me or would life be much better and have more meaning if things were back in the 1600s or so level of technology? I feel like the value of hard work would be better appreciated. I don't have much experience farming, etc., but I think I'd love it a lot more than this iGeneration.

>>10350715
I think that if nuclear bombs had never been invented, this would have happened already

>>10350832
You're forgetting things like antibiotics and refrigerators and shit

Don't get me wrong, the tech boom has probably been terrible for humanity, but you wouldn't catch me going back to 1700 in a time machine, they had fucking smallpox back then

>>10350824
The tech industry needs to burn in a trash fire.

>>10350635
>>10350540
As someone working at Merck, I advise you to pay attention to any Keytruda related news. It is performing really well, so it might help you invest. I know jack shit about markets, but I can tell you that this drug is working wonders against specific types of cancer.
It is one of the reasons why the FDA is approving it for other cancer types in such short times.

BUY GOLD AND SILVER

>>10350900
>>10350820
>>10350654
>>10350559

>>10350832
There’s definitely a strong argument to be made that technology combined with a lot of aspects of modernity significantly degrades the human experience and is psychologically damaging to people. That being said, 99% of men today are straight up bitchboys compared to any that would exist in a traditional society. I guarantee you’d actually hate the rigors of agrarian life if you actually had to go back. But then again, that’s just because we’ve been ill-conditioned to exist outside our current system.

>>10350913
I really am a 30 year old boomer...

>>10350900
Does anyone here own land that they want to have managed? I already have a little experience in forestry and a two year degree. Working on a bachelor's degree. I would literally only charge you like 0.5% of any money you make on a timber sale and guarantee you a healthy forest in the end. I need some practice. A professional consulting forester would charge you 3% as a reference.

>>10350820
ACET makes various potato accessories, dipped recently too.

Anyone here try algo trading?

>>10350965
I feel like the inevitable poverty tier zoomed population will become more dependant on Taters. It's probably good to go long on them with a 5 year outlook.

>>10350987
Zoomer*

>>10350987
Looks like 'tatos are almost at an ATH. I'd wait for a famine to buy in.

>>10350900
Why? Do you have any logical reason. Don't give me some doomsday bs.

>>10351141
Or wait, the price would rise during a famine. We need a better harvest.

>>10350900
If I was a shinyrocks investor I'd probably go for platinum right now, it's been oversold vs gold for years. PPLT

But fuck the shiny rocks. If you think the market is going down buy TVIX like a man

>>10350540
I'm looking forward to the day that I gaze on my estate watching the cryptofags toiling in my beet fields. I think I will limit their diet to a watery porridge. Their nutrition will of course be supplemented by the bugs they pick off of my plants.

>>10350540
STOCK MARKET IS GOING TO CRASH 2018 END OF YEAR. IT'S HIGHLY LEVERAGED. CHINESE ARE DEFAULTING THEIR BONDS. AND STOCKS ARE JUST THEMSELVES OVERVALUED. BUY GOLD OR CRYPTO IF YOU WANT TO SUCCEED THE NEXT DECADE

>>10351320
Stocks aren't valued based on Chinese bond purchases you cryptofag

>>10351320
Go look at what GLD does every time the market crashes you tard

>>10351294
holding tvix long term is like suicide though

>>10351300
I imagine them bickering to themselves about golden bull runs

>>10351376
Well yeah, buy it when it's low and sell when it jumps

>>10351393
what level of tvix could one consider, "low"?
how low can you go?

>>10350965
>>10350987
>>10351141
Post crash I'll go full /power potato portfolio/ + Adobe + Microsoft
Literally unstoppable!

>>10350635
Hasbro will gap up a lot
screenshot this

If I just buy puts on everything big5guy suggests to buy, will I become a billionaire ?

based

Next week predictions:

Tilray will have a significant retrace. Potential short opportunity. I pulled out the majority of my position today. Wish it had been a larger position to begin with but so it goes.

Canopy and Aurora likely to have oversold bounces. They may be small bounces but worthwhile if you swing or day trade. Sector will probably follow along as it usually does.

I am increasingly wary of small cap growers in the sector. If they haven't secured supply deals or have associations with the larger LPs, I think they're all in big trouble. If you wanna dick around with small caps I suggest cannabis biopharma or nutraceutical OTC kinda outfits or, at the very least, choose US based small cap growers. Except for ISOL. ISOL a shit.

>>10351489
No

>>10351489
Yes

>>10351426
Replace Microsoft+apple with enslaved crypto fags, and that would literally be my portfolio

>>10351359
Woke

lmao I warned you phaggots yesterday the Brazil hyperbull was starting now BRZU is up 10% today stay poor

>>10351684
Same with EBR, but the bull hasn't stopped. It's independent of the current bear market

>>10351684
besides snuff films, what does brazil produce that is valuable?

>>10351711
Favela quality Coke, Amazon fed beef, and Bandas. I would Unironically move there if it wasn't an Orwellian state

post your daily change.

-$725.56

>>10351478
got any calls/shares?

>>10352071
+392.75
get in on that silver dip

>>10352071
-21.40$

Does /smg/ dab every time they make 1 dollar?

>>10352071
-190.00

Watched my LCI calls expire worthless

>>10352297
How's Dogecoin treating you?

>>10352297
Not when I lose 4$ in the same blip of time

>bought MGM around 28.50

>>10352377
the hotel company, or Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer?

>>10352392
the ticker, so the casino/hotel management corp

How did LCI do today guys?

>>10352464

LCI has no support. That thing could go down to $10. I have no idea where the bottom is now.

Why is the spread on LCI puts so big?

>>10352497

Hmmmm Interesting. Well that’s just a shame

>>10352071
-133.58 (-0.55%)
Biggest decliners: LB, MU, and DRUS

I sold all my index funds at 24.5k will I ever buy in cheaper?

>>10352561
Hodl my friend. Never sell

I sold fucking everything. I'm firing a gun in my mouth. Bye everyone.

>>10352594
have a nice night pal!

>>10352594
A nice dab might make you feel better.

>>10352641
Nißßa we finna be dabbin like KANGZ tommorow when dat green come rollin in!

-Sent from boost mobile

>>10352594
*dabs*

>>10352701
Can you be my live in personal assistant? I need someone to punch me whenever I start fapping or get stuck shitposting on 4chin

>>10352590
You got that right.

>>10352701
*dabs on you*

FUCK, i wish this was earlier.

Hasbro is increasing the cost of Magic the gathering booster boxers, not to customers but to the distribution channels. This is almost a 100% confirmation of a terrible earnings report.

My puts are too small for having this news. FUCK. Anyway, chance of hasbro disaster monday ER just went up 2x.

>>10352102
Nope

Good morning /smg/
How did your red day go?

>>10352775
A loss of 21.40$
All in all, not too bad

>>10351684
Are you actually unironically holding a 3x leveraged ETF?

>>10352775
i dont have green or red days, only gold and silver

>>10352775
+0,04 thank you BAC

>>10352775
im up 50%

>>10352775
up 1.5% thanks to tesla short. down 66% in options because robinhood fucked me by considering 3 trades I made in a cash account as day trades so I was left holding a bag of QQQ calls overnight.

>>10353061
>blames his broker for his mismanagement
Anon...

>>10353068
bodcast when

>>10353068
I guess I should just know that robinhood uses its own special rules for what it considers a margin account and a day trade.

>>10353061
Made you trade...
Not your fault...

HOW THE FUCK DO OPTIONS WORK

>>10353189
lurk moar

>>10353186
yeah man, just take that pattern daytrader its like no big deal XD.

>>10353189
Have you tried reading a book about it?

>>10352721
Am only come in one mode & that stabby

>>10352734
*stabs on you*

>>10352775
Coulda been redder

>>10353189
investopedia tbhfam. that site has the best succinct answers to all trading questions.

>>10353189
Don’t trade options you will blow up

Flows out of momentum stocks rotating into defensive stocks. Its happening. This entire generation, and it is going to last at least a generation, is gong to be lost not able to find any job anywhere because massive unemployment, the dollar collapse, sovereign debt default so no more gibs or bailouts, government cant even afford public safety, police, basic services. The US is going to literally be the poorest country on the planet even worse than africa-tier.

Quick question that doesn't deserve it's own thread:

What is the minimum amount of money someone can invest that would actually be worth their time and effort?

I'm talking long term investing by the way. 5 years or more, probably much more

>>10353189
They work like this
>place bet
>lose money

>>10353325
Just buy some wheat and sell it in 3 years

>>10353351
How do commodities move against the dollar?

>>10353325
>minimum
what ever pocket change you can spare for starters
> worth their time
dollar cost averaging and buying indices like spy and dow doesnt take any time or effort and that is basically what all retirement accounts do, just buy indices and bond funds.
>long term investing
well from my experience you cant really buy into a bad market, even i started before the 2008 crash. the key is to buy into bad markets when everyone else is terrified.
if you would have bough in the market during 2008, youd have made some serious gains.

>>10353325
Serious answer 100k... but thats how I think about it... investing is for when you have so much money you need to put it some where to combat inflation... even then use TA on long term charts...

who /bullish on SRC/ here

>transfer 1k to the investing platform for some mid risk gambling
>realize it's the week end
>it will take 3-4 days for the money to arrive
>by that time the stocks I was aiming for will have already paid off

Why live

>>10353474
Do your own hw
I wouldn't touch it

>>10353597
it seems to be doing pretty ok to me
at least, I'm not complaining about the dividend yields

>>10353474
Those shit stocks can eat u alive if u dont know what ur doing.

>>10350832
Just read this over the weekend http://editions-hache.com/essais/pdf/kaczynski2.pdf

>>10350540
What game is that?

>>10353737

>implying WoW is a game not a lifestyle.

>>10352736
Fuuuuuuck

I went long HAL into earnings this weekend, decided I didn't have the conviction to go short Hasbro, shoulda been more confident

Begining of the week sold all of my 401K into essentially a 5% money market and now I sold all of my IRA in vangaurd to buy their prime money market. I am scared of a happening. Asset prices are so high, companies are over levered in tandem with all of their buy backs, and as interest rates rise im not sure how long this bubble lasts. Especially today after trump getting ready to blame the federal reserve for the upcomming crash

>>10353994
cool story bro

>>10353723
Interesting read but this guy hardly presents any arguments and reasons about his way of thinking, mostly just conclusions.
Basically a "WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY: THE ESSAY"

>>10354026
CIS WHITE MEN ARE THE MOST OPPRESSED CLASS IN AMERICA

gamers rise up

>>10354004
thx

>>10354074
>video
>game
>journalism
>ethics

>>10352299
Let me tell you about LCI.i should have fucking sold LCI when I had the chance. CEI also. Any thing that ends with I fucking sucks

>>10354164
Yeah I sold mine this morning to buy silver
Not worshipping Planes anymore

>>10354164
Is the short interest for LCI still high? Where do you go to get information on short interest?

>>10354213
All aboard the silver ship to gains town!
choo choo

>>10354213
there isnt gonna be a podcast tonight is there

>>10351737
this desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrKssj5OI_o

>>10353389
>How do commodities move against the dollar?
wew comf
because we value shit against the dollar
dollar up, commodities down. vice versa

>>10354703
Good answer

>>10354636
No I'm sorry, I got cucked by my wage slave job. The script is written and I'll have a nice video to go with it tomorrow! Thanks for caring desu

this is não a brazil thread
i claim this thread for the glory of greater brazil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srz8xj6W8KY

>>10354763
absolutely silly fucking question tho lol

>>10354703
>>10354763
I assumed that, but I just had to be sure! I have no idea what I'm doing
Generally, what happens to the strength of the US dollar during market dips and crashes, or is it a lesser factor?
This helps me decide whether or not to hold a commodity if I'm expecting a crash or not

>>10354765
well actually, I think the podcast is shit, but routine is routine
I better see that in the morning

>>10354807
>demands podcast
>pretends to be disappointed with no podcast
>gets podcast
>this is shit
WAT

>>10354791
Since it is a gabonese monkey stew recipes imageboard, my answer should be taken for what it is: potentially retarded

I feel it is like the JPY : when times are good, margins are taken out of US assets (USD sold) and invested elsewhere in the world
When times are bad, investors got margin called on their US assets, global selloff happens and USD are bid to meet the margin calls.

>>10354821
just because its shit doesnt mean i dont want to watch it

>>10354807
>>10354821
Whatever the quality of Comfy's podcasts, I find they embody the spirit of /smg/

>>10354791
Have your read at least 3 book on the topic (whatever your trying to go)... If you haven't read one, then you maybe want to consider holding off tell you have.

>>10354862
That makes zero sense but i will take your views nonetheless
>>10354839
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/06/usdollarcorrelation.asp
It looks like there is only a very smol correlation between USD and the market.
Vry curious

>>10354791
people sell stock and shit and dollar moons during crash. crushes commodities, all the farmers starve. oil producers get stuck with their cocks up their asses, everyone fucking dies at the end. keynes giggles from his faggot grave, and then the govt cuts our currency in half again and we do it again

the important part is what happens after the rate hikes stop mooning the dollar. inflation can come back (circled areas) then run away from itself. after dollar stops moving in tandem w commodities (this is happening now btw) commodities start to moon, then they have a beartrap, then a crypto style bubble golden bull as everything starts getting more fucking expensive. the moment that oil peaks and drags every other commodity down is the moment to short absolutely everything

thought i showed you this pic before?

embed unrelated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEpSFOibJho

>cant trade penny stocks on IB
>"open trading permissions to request"
>open trading permissions, on penny stocks it says "upgrade pending"

What does that mean?

>>10354908
It means your upgrade is pending
>>10354895
This is a beautiful chart! thank you for this

>>10354930
np bud
this is why im bull on pretty much all commodities if shit gets ugly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC_jhRY-ig4

>>10354947
I'm 80% silver 20% SQQQ right now, but on my next deposit I'll probably throw some wheat and corn in, or just long DBC or DBA
That chart is hella interesting

>>10354947
is it music hour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWxGFPrpOic

also golden bull monday

>>10354954
just be aware that silver and golds price is very much decided by the people who can manipulate it. if it really actually ends up being a safe place to go, you do it AFTER the crash, HODL for the fucking recession. the people who control precious metal prices will hold it down to steal all the retarded libertarians and communists money as everyone panics and then they will get in at the absolute bottom, and hold outside of all the currencies literally exploding. this will 10x their money again and then things get really interesting

>>10354968
yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEb68L-3UWY&list=PLvt0NrMWZZGvlfSWhW-nou0A5foVwuliJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OpnRuooGfw

>>10354954
dontcha remember that point and figure graph i did a while back of silver vs the crash?
silver and golds bottom is the same one as the bottom of the crash

dont have pic cuz computer ded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3BcER5a_Ao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlVKzICRc3c&list=RDVlVKzICRc3c

>>10355030
>>10355108
It does seem I have made an error I must correct

>>10355115
do not listen to goldbugs
the people who shill metals going INTO a crash are fucking predatory and not to be trusted

>>10354954
>>10355108
SMALL SPECS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic1cpE1gDjU

>>10355115

>>10355138
holy hell i havent heard this in a while

>>10355156
>pic
yes im aware
there are much better places to put your money

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNgxNxkUQF0

>>10355138
igor did a tribute for coil once
he wrote the first rite of spring
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM7oMUdZAcQ

>>10354968
>music hour
fuck yeah we get ready for the /smg/ eternal weekend by playing the good shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbJ63spk48s

time to wait forever

Good night smg
Let me know if you can make it through this song without dying and I'll send you a BTC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqP3GHD3QJQ&t=27s

>>10350664
if you’re actually curious there are super interesting history books on this subject with countries experiencing hyperinflation , Weimar Germany and in Brazil (for a more modern one with up to date technology and actual global stock markets like we have today) for example. Farmers did really well, white workers and factory workers not so much. And crazy stories about how people’s whole jobs were shopping during the day, because you could make money by going to the stores at the correct hours and times and profit off of the currency fluctuations that happened in the meantime — super interesting things start happening it’s wild.

>>10355227
you know they use venetian snares as torture music in gitmo?
lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCoiNOQ8SYk

>>10355132
>silver is cheaper than it was in 1980
>used in all electronics
>store of value over thousands of years along with gold, vs the dollar which has lost 90% of its value in 105 years. (1913)
its price will always be a bit volatile so long as this farce of a economic system exists.
its going to be crypto or precious metals , unless you know of any others youre willing to share?

>>10350685
ah, confidence runs very high in this one. someone hasn’t been keeping his grain storage stocked , I see....

>>10350820
I think you’d do better to focus on distribution channels and options hedging , since options are actually designed for that exact type of use case your describing

>>10355267
White collar workers . Sorry. typo, phone fag

Can we all agree now that Big5Guy is a god damn idiot, and his GBR call was simply a lucky coincidence?

>>10355274
itll probably be precious metals desu
but you dont wanna hold that shit INTO the crash. end of story

>countries experiencing hyperinflation , Weimar Germany and in Brazil
weimar is an excellent example of how shit can just keep going for a while even as everything has already fallen apart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KseuYtG2lH0

>>10355357
>tfw i have 1 fuckng share that didnt get filled
prolly gonna grab more at a lower price and keep writing ATM calls against it desu. its premiums are fucking intense

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnviqYtdFCY

>>10355389
LCI that is
itll pop at some point, but ill grab a couple hundred and just harvest calls on it at a much lower price than its at now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx6OQ7RvDXc

>>10355371
top notch song anon. Thanks desu. Was expecting some documentary on YouTube. This is way better. smg is best threads . Smoking a bowl and listening to the rest of here dudes before bed. Good vibes

>some documentary on YouTube
nah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe6rU_BL4-I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyq02sAd0NA

tho i think its only me here rn
some bastard dosed me, didnt tell me, i fell asleep after the bell, woke up tripping, and now i cant fucking sleep. fuckheads, i hate LSD.

>>10355486
>>10355528
desu I'm pretty self concious about my tastes even when I'm anon
also how the fuck did you get dosed with LSD, what cunt does that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV-sl7yec6A

>>10355389
>>10355423

Has anyone ever told you that you would make a good politician?

>>10350540
Surprised AMD is holding at $16.50 so close to earnings. My gut is telling me to load up on Jan/19 puts.

>>10355556
degenerates who pour acid in a keg and LARP like its the fucking 60s

ran into some folks when i got back in town that were partying early (now i see why lol), and had a couple beers w them and passed out at like 5 or 6. idk m8. shit happens

good song btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GddYFnehyyA

>>10355577
>digits
fuck i hope not

>>10355584
i dont think that seems unreasonable at all desu
ive just been hesitant to short AMD just yet as the future bagholders still have hope. i dont like shorting hope even if its false

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoqoxCr4054