/biz/ - Business & Finance

JEWS RULE THE WORLD

Mr. Pollock is the only boomer thats making an effort to support free banking.

Dr. Michel is our guy, based as fuck.

(((THEY))) ARE AFRAID

yes sir E$PER$ is the new money please buy only on YOBIT

LISTEN TO YOUR PAJEET OVERLORDS BIZ

>>10321534

>>10321488

SHERMAN WILL TANK BTC

PAJEET

Humphrey hawkins what is the southern fried chicken language

54 YO here, tell me a use for the crypto

>anon claiming that crypto is looking for a problem
Imagine being so new you haven't read anything satoshi wrote

roll for no capital gains tax.

>>10321611
nobody can take your money away from you. it doesn't need any more use than that.

>>10321488
>>10321488
>>10321488
>>10321488
>>10321488
>>10321488

BONUS TIME

>>10321617
Give it to Australia we need it

>>10321611
Avoiding taxes
Heroin trafficking
Child sex slave trafficking

>>10321617
Rollin

This Davidson guy is a fucking SPACE CADET lmao

SETTLE OIL IN USD OR WE'LL SADDAM HUSSEIN YOUR SHIT

Trips

>>10321534
Jews are so good at what they are doing.
I ain't even mad.

finally some actual fucking questions

LMAO that room is fucking empty

These guys are so clueless

Why has nobody addressed the fact that the beginning of every market is fucking nuts and unstable?

CRYPTO ENDS TODAY

can we just force every person in that room to read the bitcoin standard?

post yfw bitcoin gets banned

Dr.Michel is OURGUY!!

>>10321658
well crypto is a joke so nobody cares
also it's tanking now lol great "store of value"

>>10321619
The government will not take your money unless you are a criminal.
Based Sherman was right. No honest citizen needs crypto. The only benefits to accepting private cryptos are giving power to
>terrorists
>criminals
>hackers
>tax evaders
>speculators
>Chinese mining farms
Bitcoin speculators not living in China are traitors, trying to devalue their national currencies for personal gain

GUY IN BLUE POINT DOWN AGAIN IF YOURE READING

>>10321658
It's always like tha
Unless the politicians want to be seen, ask their questions, or the hearing is of media interest nobody is ever there

>>10321694
>The government will not take your money unless you are a criminal.
Have you ever tried crossing borders with large amounts of cash?

>>10321694
This

>Michel starts going down the road of how the Fed is a bunch of corrupt fucks and immediately gets cut off
This is so sad it makes my heart hurt

>>10321694
The fact that there is a need for crypto by criminals is what makes it useful you fuck.

Why else do tax havens exist?

>>10321717
they keep lying....we keep winning.

>>10321697
Schizophrenic

>>10321694
The government is known for seizing currency merely because there is a lot of it, because they've pushed this argument so far without resistance that "nobody with that much money isnt a criminal"

>>10321667
Literally just too old to remember. All the old commodity charts look like cryptopia shitcoins.

>>10321720
Thanks for proving my point brainlet. Crypto only benefits tax evaders, terrorists, hackers, foreign enemies, etc. Honest citizens in 1st world countries have no use for crypto. You are only trying to pump your bags to dump on your neighbors. Fucking shame on you.

>>10321733
this is why I keep my crypto secure with a brain wallet. Unless they start training thought police....I am good to go.

>>10321717
Good thing we see what's happening and the normies are too braindead to listen to them anyway. Only problem is the media that will take this and spin it into "BITCOIN KILLS BABIES!"

>>10321746
>being this much of a cuck

>>10321746
Thanks for the laugh.

>>10321746
The founding fathers were terrorists, without them we’d still be living in shitty Brit cuck huts saluting the queen

>>10321746
This is why the room is so empty, most people realize that crypto is a scam and treat it like that, nothing will come out of it.

>>10321733
so bill gates, steve jobs, oprah have all their currency seized? Stop being a brainlet. Honest citizens have never needed to fear the government stealing their money.

>>10321778
1. Famous citizens are treated special
2. They arent liquid you fucking moron

>>10321694
No honest citizen needs any privacy, more option or even curtains for that matter.

>>10321773
>therefore terrorists are good
you are fucking retarded

>>10321778
found the jew

>>10321773
>supporting terrorists like the kind in 9/11
>supporting terrorists that drive vehicles into crowds in first world cities
>comparing these terrorists to founding fathers
Stay brainlet.

>>10321778
>Honest citizens have never needed to fear the government stealing their money.

>>10321773
They were not terrorists. They waged open war

Skirmishes predating the open war are not attributed to a central group for political purposes

Also things like tarring and feathering are overblown memes that retards (you) have bought with no evidence

>>10321778
Someone forgot about FDR stealing peoples gold, that's fairly recent history too retard

>>10321778
I can tell you first hand that they can take all your shit at the drop of a hat and you won't even get a day in court because you will look at their "settlement" as a way out from the 20 year judgement they can slap you with. The prosecutors and judges barbeque together. You couldn't possibly be more wrong. You would know this already if you had money (because half of being rich is learning how to protect your money from the government), but you don't.

>>10321799
>people with too much money get their funds seized
>b-but these m(b)illionaries don't count
How about all the non-famous rich people in America? I guess all the rich counties are getting raided everyday right?
nice one brainlet. Bags feeling heavy speculating faggot?

>>10321778
You must be trolling or you're a total brainlet. Of course Bill Gates won't get questioned with 20k on his person. But if I am an honest citizen that happens to be a multimillionaire business owner (of which there are thousands in this country) and I do the same, I get my money seized and have to prove where it came from. Normies have been conditioned to believe that's right and it's fucking outrageous

>>10321778
Also because you're fresh off the boat from reddit you probably arent aware that the government niggers are openly talking about taxing bank and retirement accounts. The most cited one seems to be 401ks, because niggers dont jave those

>>10321857
>government will work together to seize a criminal's assets
No shit retard. They will take your shit if you are a criminal. Or you think they draw names from a hat? Stay fucking brainlet and poor, keep projecting.

>>10321868
>get raised every day
Lol
>people with too much money get their funds seized
When did I claim this you fucking subhuman?

>>10321806
No one said they were ‘good.’ Committing violent crimes is obviously undesirable and should be prosecuted under existing law

But calling a vague group of people ‘terrorist’ to invoke an emotional response? That’s meaningless manipulation.


Sherman thinks you’re a ‘terrorist’ for holding btc. Are you going to sell all your btc so you won’t be associated with that label?

>>10321617
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>10321873
Why would you get your money seized if you are an honest citizen? You must have done something first brainlet. Why are you carrying $20k on your person? Doing some shady deals? Stay brainlet.

predictable supply and controlled inflation
completely decentralized infrastructure
'be your own bank'

>hurr crypto is useless except for criminals

fucking hell people are getting dumber every day

>>10321902
Back-peddling brainlet. You lost this one. Now get out.

>>10321778

try and take 20k on a flight you big dumb goy

>>10321534
Look at blue shirt guy at 49:46

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/civil-forfeiture-often-a-provincial-cash-grab-new-report-finds/article29072771/#c-image-0

>Nice wad of cash you got there
>would be a shame if we just took it.

>>10321903
Sherman never said you are a terrorist for holding btc. He said accepting private cryptos only benefits criminals, terrorists, tax evaders, foreign powers, speculators who are not using crypto for currency purposes, etc. He is absolutely right. Average, honest citizens can't do anything with btc that they can't do with fiat they already have.

>>10321934
My argument has been consistentthis whole time you fucking monkey

Only a poorfag wouldnt know the government starts fucking with you if you carry a lot of money or make large transfers or withdrawals

It's a main talking point of libertarians in finance you bottom of he barrel nigger

In one case, a man in Saskatchewan sold $60 worth of Oxycontin he legally owned to buy gas so he could drive to work. The government took away his $7,500 truck.

One Ontario couple saw their $400,000 12-unit apartment building seized because some renters were involved in illegal activities. The province argued they should have evicted the tenants. In another Ontario case, the province sought to confiscate a couple's two rooming houses because some tenants allegedly sold drugs.

Alberta assumes that if police find $10,000 or more in cash during an investigation, the money was illegally acquired. British Columbia confiscates expensive cars — in one case a $235,000 Ferrari — used in traffic offences.

THIS IS WHY WE NEED CRYPTO

>>10321957
I can send money to a relative overseas on a Sunday and they have it available for use within minutes, stay brainlet

>>10321710
You can't take your visa card across borders? What a fucking brainlet. The absolute state of biz

>>10321934
Also if you weren't aware, the government seized assets, especially guns, when you've been even suspected of a crime

Even after being found innocent it takes forever to get them back

>>10321595
>filename
that's gonna be the price isn't it?

>>10321957
Sherman said that only terrorists use btc. If you’ve used btc, then by sherman’s definition you must be a terrorist.

Yes it’s stupid but sherman’s intellectually dishonest.

>>10321931
>(((merchant))) services

>>10321984
Wow, you really thought that was a smart thing to say didn't you?

>>10321931
How is this news? The American government makes laws for whoever pays them the most. You really think they give a shit about the people of America? Fuck no.

>>10321984
>nice Mastercard you got there
>would be a shame if we blocked its use.
>card declined

>>10322014
just like Ripple

>>10321999
No hes saying that for people who use it, not people speculating on it

>>10321803
Keeping the monetary system fair and regulated is what keeps the economy going in nations. Why should anyone pay taxes when the government can't enforce taxes on everyone fairly because of privacy coins? Exactly brainlet. The economy will fall apart.

Where can I get a deer hunting rifle with tape that doesn’t hold fingerprints

>>10322026
>fair monetary system

somehow all the evidence points to a hard no

>>10322026
>government
>fair
pick on brainlet

>>10321619
>hes never been hacked

Lol. Your money is just as vulnerable in crypto it's just a different kind of threat. There is no safe place for money people will always try to take it you have to fight for it

>>10321969
God damn, the west is going down the tubes in a fucking hurry. There are plenty of third world countries that have better property rights protection than that.

>>10321996
Why are you being suspected of a crime? There are lawyers for a reason.
>Even after being found innocent it takes forever to get them back
So there are precautions to ensure a potential criminal can't run away or immediately retaliate with guns (which shouldn't even be available for the public)? I like it.
And you eventually get them back anyways, so what's the problem? You trying to run away tax evader/traitor?

>>10322013
but they use your taxes to save people goy

>>10322026
>he conflates the government not enforcing taxes and not being able to subvert a privacy coin with that coin not being fair or regulated
The entire point of crypto in the first place was to have currency that's even better at those things than the government you room temperature IQ reddit nigger

>>10321694
Why are there so many offshore banks. 90% of the government probably has money in offshore banks. They point the finger at crypto to deflect.

>>10321927
In the case of XLM the total supply increases by 1% each year and you can receive part of it by joining an inflation pool. I'm getting XLM every week just for holding my stack. Can't wait to commit some crimes with it.

>>10322053
they make it so hard and expensive to get your stuff back that most people give up.

>>10322006
Nice counter argument.
>>10322014
Why would your card be blocked? Unless you were breaking some laws?

>>10322053
courts are rigged in america like everything else
I wouldn't dare travel through TSA with more than a thousand dollars

>>10322014
>I can use my visa in a hamlet in India
What a crock of shit
>go on my first vacation ever
>call ahead and tell the bank, I'm visiting various countries
>get stranded in fucking Kuala Lumpur after they deactivate the card for fraud
>call them with the last few minutes of my sim card
>yeah, sure we'll fix it
>don't fix it
>almost have to go to the embassy
Fuck banks. I can't even buy clothes or small electronic parts from eBay online without them flagging something as fraud

>>10322053
There is this thing called opportunity cost, brainlet.

>>10322038
Just because you suck at making money doesn't mean it's not fair. Communist traitor.
>>10322043
>pick on brainlet
Yes, I am picking on brainlets today.

>>10322020
Then by his accusation overestock is a terrorist organization as well as all its customers.

>>10322091
my card got turned off in vegas 2 weeks ago
bitpay debit card unironically saved me

>>10322026
>Keeping the monetary system fair

>>10322099
>says private ownership of firearms shouldn't be allowed
>calls others communist
WEW

>>10322099
nhl hockey vs local shinny team
durr durr you guys suck at playing hahaha.

game is rigged.

>>10322053
>why are you going to be suspected
It's literally written into the law that a large amount of cash is guilty until proven innocent
>lawyers exist
And? They have no power to prevent your money from being stolen or get it back faster

>so there are precautions
There are precautions for subhumans like you who cant think above grade level called due process, which is being violated

>what's the problem
Well it can ruin your life depending on what they seize. Its unconstitutional that you have to prove yourself innocent to get your own property back, and immoral

>>10322108
I actually went to Vegas this past November and gambled a lot, and that was fine with the bank apparently.

After getting stranded, I went all on crypto.

>>10322099
kek

>>10322103
I'm sure his argument would be that they arent using the currency for it's intended purpose and might as well be speculators trying to get in on the fad (which is true)

>>10322132
my bank made me upgrade my account and agree to a bunch of shit I wasted 20 minutes talking to them and then they said it was fixed and it wasn't
so within 15 minutes I transferred mycelium to bitpay and after a confirm I cashed out $500 and went back to gambling

>>10322056
Why is it better? Its value is not stable. If btc is stolen by hackers it can't be retrieved. Chinese mining farms hold all the power in this monetary system. Crypto is a solution looking for a problem.
>temperature IQ reddit nigger
no u. You missed the bubble and honest citizens are not going to fall for golden bull run (pump and dump) to make you rich.

>>10322156
Get back to work before your boss fires you for goofing off

>>10322155
absolutely harem

>>10322155
I will have to look into this. Thanks anon

>>10322156
>why is it better
You didnt mention value, but because it's an emerging asset it's going to be unstable. The dollar is barely stable with the amount of actual representative value has fluctuated
>chinese mining farms hold all the power
You fundamentally dont understand what mining is lmao
>you missed the bubble
Lmao my dad works for nintendo reddit nigger

>>10322155
>gambling degenerate
So crypto can be used to make it easier for casinos to prey on addicted retards? Nice use case.

>>10321921
Why does it matter that I'm carrying around 20k? Maybe I just got paid for a job/service I performed. Maybe I'm going and buying a used car in cash from a private owner. Maybe I'm a fucking rapper or internet celebrity that likes to carry money around and do fancy shit. The point is it's MY fucking money and not YOUR business. The cops can seize your cash regardless just on suspicion on having that much cash. It doesn't matter if you have a criminal record. To you that may be ok to just assume "shady deals", but to me that sounds like governmental kikery. So fuck off.

lol like half this thread is (you)s for this masterbaiter. Well done.

>>10322200
Are you saying he can't do as he pleases with his money? Communist traitor

>>10322088

>>10322220
Those arent insults to him

>>10321803
>No honest citizen needs any privacy, more option or even curtains for that matter.

This is retarded.
What about honest citizens who have no choice but to compete against unfair foreign competition which DOES have all the privacy?

>>10322216
>implying you can make these stupid posts up

>>10322193
my bank also was giving me sales pitches on credit and new accounts I could open while holding my money hostage
bitpay is kind of a shit company (they push bcash on you and make their bitcoin wallets certain formats to mess with bicoin's fungibility)
but it was nice to have a couple weeks ago

>>10322212
>Maybe I just got paid for a job/service I performed.
So being paid under the table? Nice tax evading use case
>Maybe I'm going and buying a used car in cash from a private owner.
Can't use a fucking cheque? More shady deals?
>Maybe I'm a fucking rapper or internet celebrity that likes to carry money around and do fancy shit.
When is the last time the police arrested rappers or celebrities JUST for holding some cash, with NO other reason. I'll be waiting.
>The cops can seize your cash regardless just on suspicion on having that much cash.
As they should. There is absolutely NO reason to carry around that much cash for ANY reason. Cards and cheques cover all use cases, and honest citizens know this.

>>10322265
>As they should. There is absolutely NO reason to carry around that much cash for ANY reason.
the limit is 10k now and could be less if the authorities want
10k isn't the same 10k when they made the rule and with inflation will be even less as time goes on
we have to confront these bullshit laws eventually

>>10322265
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/usshowbiz/article-3182302/Rapper-Snoop-Dogg-stopped-Italy-airport-422-000-cash.html

>>10322026
Yes, you should have to be very rich to have tax shelters. The system won't last very long if every Tom, Dick, and Harry has them

>>10322265
I love how you bongs are so obsessed with our country

>>10322237
GO TO VEGAS GOY AND PAY TAXES

>>10322255
I remember one time, I actually did have fraud and the bank didn't catch it. I'm from a small town and the people at the local branch are fantastic, but since I moved away and have to deal with the call lines, it's been awful.

I haven't actually converted any of my crypto to cash yet, but I'm going to start looking into it. I'm at the point where I can reliably trade enough to cover my monthly expenses.

>>10322265

>So being paid under the table? Nice tax evading use case

Too brainlet to know what a receipt is

>Can't use a fucking cheque? More shady deals?

Enjoy seeing your cheque bounce, brainlet.

>As they should. There is absolutely NO reason to carry around that much cash for ANY reason. Cards and cheques cover all use cases, and honest citizens know this.

Can I install a camera in your house? You don't mind, you're an honest citizen aren't you?

Try to imagine being as stupid as this anon. I can't yet that is more than half the country

>>10322301
>he was arrested in Sweden last Saturday night after being pulled over by police.
>Under suspicion of driving under the influence, the rapper was detained in Uppsala, a city outside of Stockholm, according to TMZ. He was in the country for a performance.
Sounds like he was a troublemaker who was caught carrying a large amount of cash and so it was deemed suspicious. Try again brainlet.

>>10322331
>Enjoy seeing your cheque bounce, brainlet.
Why is it bounced brainlet? Not enough funds? Poor brainlet confirmed.
>Can I install a camera in your house? You don't mind, you're an honest citizen aren't you?
False equivalency. Try again poor brainlet.

>>10322329
coinbase is ok for large amounts and bitpay debit is nice for going to the store or withdrawing cash
but large purchases on bitpay card are sketchy I got declined for my 2.2k mountain bike I had to hit an atm 5 times

>>10322378
why it bounced is irrelevant, you still got your shit stolen.

>>10322265
>There is absolutely NO reason to carry around that much cash for ANY reason.
Yes, goyim. Carrying your personal property on your person is wrong.

>>10322331
>Can I install a camera in your house? You don't mind, you're an honest citizen aren't you?
Such a good point. It really bothers me when people like former Google exec Eric Schmidt pull the "if you're not a criminal you don't need privacy" bullshit. So you want people watching videos of you taking a shit and masturbating?

>>10322334
sadly, many normies are as brainlet as ID: PvjvbyXI

>>10322378
>muh false equivalency
I can't stand how many progressive faggots I have to hear say this line on the West Coast. One of the late night TV show hosts must have used it as a zinger a while back.

>>10322394
>muh jews
Another NEET /pol/ fag virgin? Anyone with real money will choose a
>jewish lawyer
>jewish doctor
>jewish banker

>>10322378
>Why is it bounced brainlet? Not enough funds? Poor brainlet confirmed.

Brainlet enjoys to get scammed, hahahaha.

>False equivalency. Try again poor brainlet.

True equivalency, so why don't you let me install cameras in your room cause you're clearly a law abiding citizen and aren't doing anything illegal aren't you?

>>10322378
You ever read Orwell's 1984? Might broaden your vision...

>>10322391
Not much of a problem yet. I can't make any large purchases as I'm still a poor grad student. 2.2k is more than I spend in a month

>>10322418
I'd rather an East Asian doctor, especially if they have to stick their hands inside me, their hands are small

>>10322420
>True equivalency
Saying things are true doesn't make them true brainlet. Just like saying bitcoin has value doesn't mean it has value.
brainlet.

>>10322442
The doctors and surgeons must be amazing, they make them sexy ladyboys.

>>10322418
How is this even a response to what I typed? You're claiming that it's not okay to carry one's own personal property around in one's own pockets.

>>10322418
>jewish banker


All the bankers are jews. Thats why people go crypte, brainlet.

>>10322451
>Saying things are true doesn't make them true brainlet.

And saying they are false doesn't make them false, brainlet. Just like saying bitcoin not having value doesn't mean it doesn't have value.

>>10322507
You can buy a gun. That is your personal property. It doesn't mean you can just carry it around in public and not expect suspicions from honest citizens and get reported. Same goes for large sums of unnecessary cash. Don't respond. Just stay brainlet.
>>10322529
>being this jealous of an overachieving minority
Trust me brainlet. All high earning Jews will just convert and grab all bitcoin supply if fiat really ended. (Which it never will) You will still be a loser NEET at the bottom rung of the ladder. Don't respond. Just stay brainlet.
>>10322548
My mistake. It has value for tax evaders, drug dealers, terrorists, foreign enemies, criminals, traitors trying to devalue their nation's currency for personal gain, and speculators hoping to dump on their community later on. Fucking scumbag. Don't respond. Just stay brainlet.

>>10321957
typical burger lens. try living overseas and sending your money to relatives without paying an outrageous X% in transaction fees and waiting for days.

>>10322628
Jews are not historically an overperforming minority. They find themselves in a strange and unusual position of power this century due to a number of factors such as rampant globalization, a destruction of family life (except for the Jewish community), and universal suffrage which increased the voting populace which are easily influenced by emotional arguments. That will be remedied within the next 50 years.

>>10322026
>central banks creating money out of thin air and lending it to banks at interest who themselves lend it at interest, the value siphoned from all workers
>fair and regulated monetary system
pick one and only one

>>10321806
>>10321811
>>10321839
All these 20 year olds who don't realize the word "terrorist" has been co-opted by the government so they can legally deny citizens constitutional rights using loose arbitrary legal methods.
When I was 14 and 2001 happened and the word terrorist started being used broadly it was obvious to me even then that this was the political end game. I thought everyone would realize this in due time but apparently everyone is way more gullible than I thought.

>>10322717
>the government abusing the word terrorists means the term doesnt real

>>10322693
>Jews are not historically an overperforming minority
Yes, because they were persecuted everywhere they tried to go and culminated in the Holocaust. Now for the first time they can advance naturally and show that fire really does forge steel. They have strong family units and have cultural reinforcement of education + achievements. Don't get jealous and try to blame it on the world brainlet. Just be better.
>That will be remedied within the next 50 years.
Nazi scum.

>>10322628
Innocent until PROVEN guilty, not assumed. Not that I expect a brainlet britbong to understand

>>10322717
>sigh... it's hard being woke among the sheeple. how can they not see the world through my eyes?

>>10322746
I don't blame the Jewish people. They are simply shaping the world in their image as best they can. It's just that their image is disgusting. When I say it will be remedied in the next 50 years I mean that more people, European or otherwise, will wake up and realize they need space to self-determine their own racial identities and cultures without undue foreign influence. Jewish people do not forge anything with fire. They are more akin to a creeping rust on the iron forged by other civilizations. They slowly erode the moral and cultural integrity of any society they exist in through their emotional arguments and slave morality.
>nazi scum
:(

>>10322628
Just jumping in to say that you\re either 10/10 troll or the worst kind of human sewage. Either way, get bent you statist cunt.

Well that was fun. Thanks for the (You)'s you gullible faggots. Back to crypto gains.

>>10322872
he was only playing doubles advocate to help us

>>10322020
>No hes saying that for people who use it

Still wrong.

nice FUD today

>>10321921
t. bootlicker