/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>10194902

I can see flippening before 2020

>>10194902
>implying banks can't fractional reserve crypto and give the goyim derivative sql tokens to transact with.

>>10194902
What if the Central Banks use their pocket change and lint to buy crypto?

It's a good thing they have no abilities in manipulating markets!

>>10194902
>slaps 32mb blocks
>this bad boy can fit so much fucking nothing in it

>>10194902
>bcash
>one of the worst crypto projects
yes dearest cashie cultist, there are more than two crypto projects, and bcash is one of the worst

BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH

>>10194902
This shitcoin is going to create the juiciest of bagholders.

>>10194902
shut up mr. ver

>>10195066
0.15 BTC prices and below will be history as early as EOY.
The November fork will open up so many possibilities!
>>10195253
BCH daily transactions are constantly growing, whereas BTC transaction rate is slowing down. Just give it time, we're already #3 in $ value transferred per day on the BCH blockchain, probably reaching #2 EOY
>>10195258
no arguments, obvious troll
>>10195271
same
>>10195276
BCH will be the last coin to die, as it is the only one with actual grassroots support by early bitcoin adopters and billionaires. There's a chance we'll be left holding bags, but not before ALL other crypto projects are essentially dead.

Ron paul will be president before a crypto takes power from a central bank. good luck!

>>10195331
i will simplify things for you:
>only option
OP pretending that bcash is the best or only crypto project on existence. neither of those are true. same argument as before, more explicit for a dumbfuck shill like you. sage

>>10195387
>OP pretending that bcash is the best or only crypto project on existence. neither of those are true. same argument as before, more explicit for a dumbfuck shill like you. sage
I'll ignore the ad hominems and bullshitting and get to the point.
>Bitcoin cash is not the best project in existence
Name ONE crypto project which has some of the following in the works (or anything comparable in terms of actual real world adoption):
>Calvin Ayre (the first online casino billionaire) creating BCH-exclusive online casinos with tens of millions of marketing budget
>Same Calvin Ayre creating the biggest luxury SPA center in Antigua which only accepts BCH
>Roger Ver (another billionaire) doing similar adoption works in St Kitts
>Roger Ver talking to CEO-s of Japanese banks and stock markets about integrating BCH (and being invited by said CEO-s to do so)
>A top 200 website by Alexa ranking being dedicated to the coin's adoption
>0-conf support with multiple online merchants
>Significant purse.io discounts on ANY amazon purchase
>Having at least a dozen billionaires backing it (Ver, Ayre, Wu, Zhouer, 2-3 unnamed friends of Wu's, Brian Armstrong, etc)
>Having support of all the Bitcoin miners (the most influential figures in crypto)
>Having 500+ patents exclusively granted for use by BCH and no other blockchain
>The most popular mobile wallet on any appstore
Name one with comparable adoption record, faggot. Protip: you can't.

>>10195387
>>10195471
That's right you faggot, get lost, BCH will be #1, probably as early as EOY. faggot

>>10195697

Corecucks are going to drop bitcoin as soon as BCH starts mooning.

>>10195331
November fork, tell me more

>>10195776
>>10195817
Nothing is certain yet, some OP-codes are going to be re-enabled for sure, which may be enough for a VM like Ethereum's to be built on top of BCH. Simpler smart contracts will become easy to create.
Bitcoin Unlimited have been working on Graphene.
Bitcoin ABC have been working on Schnorr sigs.
+ multiple client optimizations for performance etc. Follow each wallet client for more info

>>10195116
There is no reason to do that, also it can be verified on the blockchain, unlike your money in their accounts.

>>10195199
Central banks? Unlikely
Commercial banks? Likely already the caseL

I knew cashie were deluded when they claimed to overtake ethereum with their opcodes.

bcash

>>10194902

>>10197675
In reality bitcoin cash adoption grows write Bitcoin cores get rekt

>>10197739
>bitcoin cash adoption grows

To such a minor fucking degree both Bitcoins are essentially useless right now

>>10196963
>There is no reason to do that
in that case you have no idea what banks do and what people want.

>>10194902
There is literally nothing wrong with central banks nor fractional reserve banking

>>10194902
You've seem to have forgotten an option let me help you with that.

yes a centralized chink coin with patents out the ass is the perfect way to curb central banksb

>>10194902

>>10198077
It's pretty stupid to think that 0xBTC can supplant Bitcoin because it's confined to Ethereum. BTC is kind of the store of value in all of crypto, not just one particular network.

0xBTC will, however, likely take over ETH in value as people realize that Proof of Stake is unfair as shit (rewarding the rich we free ETH). 0xBTC is useful in Ethereum as a store of value since ERC20 tokens are compatible with smart contracts and dapps, but I honestly don't see it being THE Bitcoin.

>>10198326

>>10198986
i dont even know what you're trying to say

>>10197060
Different use case. Eth is computing on the chain. BCH model is putting proof of computation on the chain. Eth model doesn't scale. You can not have every computer do computation to verify everything. The BCH model is you prove the computation was done, keep the chain itself clean.

>>10199043
it's even better than that, on ETH you're locked to one programming language while on BCH you can use whatever programming language in existence

>>10199043
>what is starkware

>>10198855
What makes you think Ethereum can't be upgraded just like Microsoft upgraded Windows. Like hello? Hal Finney created Bitcoin. The bulk was not done by Craig Wright. Craig and Dave simply were early miniers and cypherpunks. BCH over BTC any day though. Blockstream and Lightning Labs are out to make BTC centralized. It's time to move on from Bitcoin.

Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK68jbXOIWY

>>10199068
That's not even true, there's a variety of programming languages that compile down into ETH... (Solidity, Serpent, LLL)

On the other hand there is only one higher level language that compiles to Bitcoin Script and that's Ivy...

>>10199298
a currency token within a crypto (that itself absolutely can be used as currency) is just about the dumbest thing ive ever heard. kudos for not shitting on the true future crypto king though.

>>10198050
i'll get your mom to accept it bch

>>10199369
Ethereum goes proof of stake, you need a store of value on the network.ETH wasn't meant to be the store of value. 0xBitcoin is that. BCH is centralized right now with blocks not filling up and fucking all the mining power is done by a couple people. It's a power struggle. Plus Roger Ver is involved with people to capitalize on BCH. Vigilante capitalism misleading everyone. Ethereum Classic is making a comeback with side chains and lot of good things going on now. ETH is also praised by Russia and they're looking into using something like it.

>>10199308
as far as i know Solidity is the only option, Serpent i don't know what is (maybe you mean Viper, which isn't done yet) and LLL seems to be something that compiles into Solidity (or later Viper). ill admit im no ETH expert though

what i mean about BCH supporting any language is that you only publish your proof of work on the blockchain, a hash of the code + its result. that's why it scales so well, all calculations are off-chain and anybody can verify any claim when they need or want to.

the scripting language in bitcoin is very basic, Forth-like. right now you can't really put scripts on the chain, the tx becomes non-standard so it doesn't relay between nodes. instead you keep you script off-chain and publish hashes of the scripts (and hashes of results).

eth and bch smart contracts can't be used exactly in the same way as far as i know but I don't think that will stop bch from being useful. it's really good for what it can do, prove that stuff have been done and transfer money, and nothing can ever slow it down (it does scale)

as for the next update in november i think they will enable on-chain tokens and relays of non-standard transactions (meaning non-standard output scripts). this is just a guess but from all ive read and heard it's those two things people want most on bitcoin (bch).

>>10199455
of course blocks aren't filling up on BCH, it's less than a year old and there's a massive smearing campaign going on. most people don't even know there are two versions of bitcoin. bitcoin cash getting 10% of both BTC's tx and hashpower is huge considering it's not even a year old. as for Roger Ver capitalizing, i dont think people understand how much money he have. he's been in bitcoin since 2011 and owns bitcoin.com, if he wanted to he could sit all day doing nothing and just watch the money roll in. instead he flies all over the planet just to try and give more economic freedom to people.

ETH going proof of stake is one of the reasons i really dont like eth anymore, if all the founders will make all the calls you might as well just put up a server somewhere and stick with traditional banks. proof of work at least allow rich guys that aren't the founders to come into the system and if the founders decide something stupid they will have a fork on their hands.

anyway bottom line is that simplicity is king and it doesn't get any simpler than the way bitcoin works. you never actually transfer anything, you just broadcast a state update + proof that you are allowed to change a state. cant break, scales.

>>10199698
> instead he flies all over the planet just to try and give more economic freedom to people.

Well, let's not kid ourselves and say he wouldn't make money off of increased BCH adoption. Like, a lot of money. And fame, which people crave.

only a matter of time until the Juden pump and dumps the whole crypto market and crashes it once and for all

you really think a few billion dollars is going to deter their game? that's chump change for them to secure their position.