/biz/ - Business & Finance

First for Big 5 Guy being cranky :^]

>>10179912
Second for invest in waffles

Death to all third dimensional beings!

Tell me what seminars or books should I try?

I'm almost a complete beginner that only know few terms. I specifically want to know how to spot patterns to day trade and swing trade (since PDT fucks me over if I day trade)

First for my waifu, RKG
May her beauty surpass her skill for shitposting

nth for tripfags!

>>10179946
If your new use the sticky, big boy books later.

Believe in The Musk.

>>10179945
You're one of my new favorite tripfags.

>>10179946
There's stuff in the OP.
I personally love thepatternsite.com
He's very grounded in stats; it's AWESOME.

>>10179957
I already got a Robinhood account, went trough some of the khanacademy videos and saw the rundown on option part 1.

Pls I want to buy big boi boooks

>>10179935

>Friday night
>Almost all the tripfags are posting
Makes you think... Just kidding I love you guys. There are even a couple of you I would trust to take advice from.

>>10179992
I only trust in RKG and the penis-adorned TA charts.

it's so warm in here and everyone has a name tag. awwwww

>>10179929
>it sounds like you were too generous with pictures you received
No photos or people involved, only corporations. It was semi biz related and I'm not saying any more on the topic
>you looked through the archives
No, I just have an autistically good memory
>merely getting quality financial data has proven to keep me pretty restrained here.
how broad of a market segment and what time frequency are you trying to target? Data for individual tickers is easy to find

>>10179955
>I pay $35/month to get a real-time data feed for stocks and options. $20 of that is the normal IB monthly account fee.
Well shit, I might just end up paying for that briefly just to scalp them for their historical data.
Do you know how good their historical data is? Like, the furthest back it goes? That's one of my main interests for backtesting is making sure to cover a couple good recessions, maybe the cold war and Korean/Vietnam/Iraq war.
>I have a dedicated mysql db server set up that I use for a number of different projects.
The wording makes this sound expensive.
I hope this is either a home server or an AWS micro EC2 instance

>>10180037
>So, when did rgt die and smg take its place? I was gone for a few months.
Same. I'd guess late fall or sometime in the winter. That's when I stopped posting.
Do you remember the forex and investing general threads from before that?

>>10179979
Whats your account goals, just out of curiosity? I wrote the post in the last thread asking about what account goals should look like if you were trying to make 60k a year, though I was kind of lowballing it because I figured 3 million sounded like a large account, especially when the other guy was talking about his money being put to work on SPY to turn into what, 1.5 million or something like that?

>>10179946
>>10179981
Read the basics and spend time (weeks, preferably months) watching charts for a couple companies you like. Get a paper trading account and see how you do before cracking any serious real money. Fundamentals and long term is much better to start on than rapid pattern trading. But there's also utility in partying for a crash course if you don't mind blowing $100 a few times until you're semi not retarded

>>10179983
BASED new tripfag

welcome :)

>>10180006
:3

>>10179981
I hate actual textbooks...
They make nice references, but I've always had better luck with websites and blogs when it comes to learning.

>>10179983
Is this the new tripcode that you had in mind?

>>10179981
Try something philosophical like "The Richest Man in Babylon"

Someone tell me some good HMNY news

>>10180132
That's impossible. 1:250 rs happening late July

>>10180077
>No photos or people involved, only corporations. It was semi biz related and I'm not saying any more on the topic
Well this is fascinating, and from my own experience with the law, I can respect that
>No, I just have an autistically good memory
Oh, right, people have long term memory. I forgot about that.

>merely getting quality financial data has proven to keep me pretty restrained here.
>how broad of a market segment and what time frequency are you trying to target? Data for individual tickers is easy to find
I'm not just going for price data.
Price data doesn't mean a whole lot, and Stooq has provided a source for all the TA I'll ever need. It's the FA stuff that I'm hunting for, and I only need daily data but I'll settle for monthly. The thing is that I want DECADES of it.
I'm shooting for this thing to basically be a super fancy scanner on the whole fortune 500 or more.

>>10180090
That was me posting about living off passive divs from a sizeable bankroll. That is my goal, though you've somewhat underestimated the return on this strategy, since you don't have to worry about withdrawing capital. The difference is I'm not trying to build the capital off only trading. I work as a tech executive and make good money doing that, and have no substantial expenses at the moment (no kids/ wife/gf, own a house)

>>10180117

>>10180084
I'd have to check on the historical data, but I know it goes back a long ways.

The mysql server is just a decent i5 pc I inherited running as a linux server. Didn't cost a penny, just the electricity to run it.

>Do you remember the forex and investing general threads from before that?

Yes, I do remember, but I recall being more of a lurker than a poster.

>>10180186
BASED

hello new friend :D

>>10180202
BASED BASED posted

>>10180122

>>10180226
B A S E D

so many new friends today !!!

>>10180183
You need schooling for that job? I work at my family's business and have considered the whole "self-learn coding for a tech career" as a backup if things ever went south in a big way.

>>10180186
Good manga, but needs an edit that says "tripfags"

>>10180090
I have no plans or projections yet to try living off it.
Living off 3 million definitely isn't being too liberal.
1 million dollars is NOT as much as normies think it is.
1 million dollars in my account would even mean I'd probably have to take a haircut compared to what I make now. I haven't even tried projections for what I'd live off of, I've only calculated out how long, how much to save per year, and the rate of gains that I'd need to get to 1 million dollars, and that's at least 5 years out with a very unrealistic rate of gains.

>>10180240
>>10180254

Woah what do you mean we LOVE tripfags.

am I right >>10180240?

Welcome, friens

>>10180261

Who else bought RGSE today?

>>10180260
yep or as I like to say: we loved BASED tripFRIENDS :)

>>10180178
Source?
Also, r/s doesn't mean bad news... It's dilution that's bad news and the owner has mentioned an interest in dilution.
Currently holding a call option on HMNY, would it be rights to the pre or post split shares?
If it's entitled to 100 shares following the r/s, I'm gonna be rich kek

>>10180285
I can't believe that Radiohead song was 7 years ago. Time goes by so fast.

>>10180288
Im glad I didn't, way too many L's this week so I skipped out. Almost did lol

>>10180242
Depends. No place will hire you into a good full time permanent position without at least a bachelor's in a relevant subject, or several years' experience as an intern/ contractor. Bootcamp is enough for landing initial contract gigs (have a portfolio/github/etc to show) or maybe a crappy foot in the door slot. If you're good with ideas and marketing and have time, bootstrapping yourself and making apps is a good way to learn on the fly and potentially make money. I suggest trying to scrounge up free online courses before paying for a bootcamp too; mit has some good ones I think, and most profs put their course website and content online for their classes to use. Also, any uni will let you sit and audit courses for free even if you're not a student if you ask (attend the lectures but you don't do the tests or get your homework graded)

>>10180183
>tech executive
>thinking face.png
Start up? You're not exactly rich if you're living off ramen while cranking code 14 hours a day, famalam

>>10180330
is that a really real? really?

>>10180352
I wonder if Zucc is really as absurd a person as he often looks. He doesn't look like he was cut out to be a public figure, but he is trying so hard to fulfill that role.

>>10180198
>I'd have to check on the historical data, but I know it goes back a long ways.
I'll check it out. I might bump them over Zack's and scalp them first at only 35 bucks...

>The mysql server is just a decent i5 pc I inherited running as a linux server. Didn't cost a penny, just the electricity to run it.
You should check your energy bill, the watts drawn by that set-up, and the pricing on EC2 micro instances... Amazon definitely negotiated a deal with their utilities companies.
You might be able to run a server in NYC, closer to the NYSE with a faster internet connection than literally how much you're paying in your electric bill.
I've done the math before for a start-up that I tried founding.

>>10180330
he looks so fucked up

>>10180330
Not the stereotypical no money startup scene, but I do work with some yeah. I've also been leadership at several big companies (not the tech big 5 though, they are fucking horrible to work at). This spring I made 70k for two months of work building an eng department for startup. Currently neeting it up for the summer trying to make it trading

>>10180368
He 100% is. you see the same shit in Musk's public speaking. These are spergs, they don't do well with people

>>10180235

>>10180330
>>10180352
>>10180368
can't cuck the zuck

>>10180371
If you're already running your own servicer instance it's going to be faster and cheaper to buy a bargain basement bare cloud vm and use that instead of any aws option

>>10180303
Wait. Wtf. Which Radiohead song was it referencing? I didn't watch the music videos

>>10180352
I imagine that it was before his company really took off. So, sharing images on social media wasn't known to be as risky as it currently is, I'd bet that Google reverse image search wasn't as solid as it is now, and he was still either in or a couple years out of college

>>10180368
>>10180427
The photo is from 2009. And lest we forget https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9wypiujiA#

>>10180368
He's totally a fucking alien.
I need to watch The Social Network.
I bet he's borderline Asbergers

>>10180376
I really do believe he may have been on molly or ecstasy

>>10180379
>Not the stereotypical no money startup scene, but I do work with some yeah. I've also been leadership at several big companies (not the tech big 5 though, they are fucking horrible to work at).
I was kind of baiting you a bit there. You didn't seem like the start-up type. I was ballparking some lesser known but fair enough company, like IBM or redhat, at a director to VP level
>This spring I made 70k for two months of work building an eng department for startup.
Very nice lol
>Currently neeting it up for the summer trying to make it trading
I really don't think a human could possibly beat the index for as long as Buffett has without at the very minimum a bachelor's in something like accounting and at least a few years experience, but I've noticed mathematicians can set up some pretty solid algorithms instead.

>>10180421
I'm sure AWS isn't necessarily the cheapest option, I was just making a point that a home server isn't the deal that people think it is.
AWS also has that "reserved" instances option that my company is pretty idiotic for possibly completely ignoring... What cloud services do you think are good deals though?

>>10180454
Kek.
That's not real though

>>10180307
I bought 500 shares at $0.40. Yes, it was complete gambling. I'm never going to see that $200 ever again, am I?

>>10180467
Personally I find that I did way better as a hobby than full time, because work kept me from constantly starting at charts and getting emotional in moments. But if I don't pay at least some daily attention my performance tanks immediately.

Serious question: how do people get independent ideas and is ta really such a big deal? I've only ever gone on gut, fundamentals and cursory dd. Algos and quant just don't seem worth it to me at an individual/ retail level

You goys I have good news, I looked at HV and MACD for 5 minutes on trading view and SPY on robintrack and we are 100% golden bull this week.
We're all going to make it

>>10180387

>>10180563
I'm anticipating a Trump Tweetstorm™ this weekend to crash this market with no survivors.

>>10180584
I think RKG made the point a comet could destroy humanity and it still would be a green day

>>10180512
Digitalocean and azure are both substantially cheaper: roughly 50% and 40% respectively at the cheapest tier, plus they give you better hardware. And I'm counting aws storage space as free though even a tiny db instance would not fit within the free constraints for s3. But if you have trivial computational and storage needs (e.g. a cheap Android phone would be an adequate server) then aws free could do it for you. The others don't have a free offering. Aws market dominance comes from the integrated suite of products and the fact that Microsoft's marketing sucks fucking dick

>>10180549
I couldn't say. It doesn't look good, looks exactly like some stuff i've also lost money on. Just get out and move on is all I would do probably.

>>10180552
There's a research paper that I really like where they trained SVMs for monthly price targets off FA and TA, the bulk of the results came from TA... but it was on a monthly timeframe

>>10180580
I'm trying to figure out if you're LCI poster and just don't want to tell everyone

>>10180751

>>10180604
This. It was priced in, and everybody already finished selling.

>>10180678
>Digitalocean and azure are both substantially cheaper: roughly 50% and 40% respectively at the cheapest tier, plus they give you better hardware.
Noted.
I've heard azure has more competitive pricing. I think AWS is relying more on vendor lock-in.
>And I'm counting aws storage space as free though even a tiny db instance would not fit within the free constraints for s3.
S3 isn't for databases. S3 only handles file storage. RDS is for databases.
>But if you have trivial computational and storage needs (e.g. a cheap Android phone would be an adequate server) then aws free could do it for you.
As long as you don't have "users", you could use a fucking potato, usually.
Free is probably fine even up to 1000 users if it's just a static site -- actually for a static site, you're able to host off just an S3 bucket. No joke.
>The others don't have a free offering. Aws market dominance comes from the integrated suite of products and the fact that Microsoft's marketing sucks fucking dick
I hated that "I'll do anything to help compute a cure for cancer" commercial. Could you do anything more obvious for slapping me in the face with some fucking pathos?

>>10180780
I saw somebody do the math on where the discrepancy is on that somewhere.
The cut changes to being not perfectly diagonal or they add a little length to it midway through.

>>10180833

>>10180861

if any of you have got a happy ending at a massage, this is pretty much how it is. Literally happend to me one time, even the calling at the beginning part. Friend knew of a place and it's basically exactly how it went.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbRf67-BSjE

>>10180915

>>10180379
How did you get into leadership with big tech? Do you have an MBA?

Started a job where I ended up herding a bunch of engineers as a project manager and I realized I enjoyed organizing and delegating much more than doing the engineering itself. Moving to a bigger company now, hoping to climb a bit of the ladder.

>>10180549
Here. It's already up to .42, so you've already made a profit. I'll sell if it goes below .40 or above $1. This isn't a stock I'm interested in hodling long term, I'm just trying to ride the pump and then dump it.

>>10180798
>I've heard azure has more competitive pricing. I think AWS is relying more on vendor lock-in.
It does and it's a much better product, and yes on lock in
>S3 isn't for databases. S3 only handles file storage. RDS is for databases.
S3 is the storage backing for ec2 (cheap tiers don't have their own storage) and the initial context was running a personal mysql instance on a server. Rds is more expensive than managing your own instance for obvious reasons
>Free is probably fine even up to 1000 users if it's just a static site
Aws has a free cdn that'll do it, but it's only free for the first year

>>10180833
There was a similar puzzle from my middle school days (pic related). Turns out it's not a real hypotenuse.

>>10181014
well obviously someone isn't goo at tetris

>>10180957
I heard MBAs and getting a master's in general isn't really that great of a pay bump if you take the expense and lost salary into consideration

>>10180985
On keeping the initial context in mind, well I guess that's how you became a tech exec

>>10180936
I love this pic

>>10181033
>tfw you get those "S" and "Z" pieces when the top-most row is completely filled.

>>10180957
I have bachelors in cs, business and philosophy but no higher ed degree. I started as a grunt engineer and displayed talent and drive. I asked (or more often, told) my bosses for assignments with more challenge. I'm also ruthlessly mercenary and was willing to leave when my progression wasn't fast enough, and was willing to move long distance for new job markets. The longest I've stayed at any one company is maybe 20 months, and the longest I went without a promotion was 10. Also did a stint consulting, which forces you to learn a breadth of skills. But after 7-10 years the hopping becomes an impediment rather than a win as companies don't like to hire leavers for important positions. PM is a good skillset for management. Can you do at least basic coding? It's important for earning respect of reports and being able to pitch in if shit goes sideways. Coin toss whether a company prefers making a techie manager or not
>>10181014
Post this on /b/ for guaranteed thread limit

>>10179912
Anyone else looking at Entercom (ticker ETM)? Quick rundown

>philly based company that owns and operates radio stations
>formed a reverse morris trust by buying CBS radio
>2nd largest owner of radio stations in America (behind iHeartRadio)
>trades 9x forward earnings and 4.5% dividend
>got fucked from last quarter because they had to write down some inventory due to problems with the content producer (US Traffic Network)
>Leverage is moderate (4.4x EBITDA) and no foreseeable bankruptcy (unlike iHeart and Beasley)
>Radio is still a valuable advertising medium (92% of Americans listen to radio weekly, 88% of millennials do as well)
>Radio ad revenue is relatively stable
>ETM is also is #2 for weekly podcast downloads (behind NPR), creating potential room for growth and additional capture of millennial market

What does /biz/ think?

>>10181110
every.fucking.time

>>10181140
Wow.
Screencapped.
Awesome advice, you wrote it for the other guy but I'm in tech too, thanks

>>10181149
Are they likely to need to do more significant write offs?
Also commune is low and they're just coming off a strong rally so I wager you're looking at buy and hold for at least a quarter or two, probably longer

>>10181237
*volume
>>10181219
It's definitely not the path for every person or market but I imagine most dedicated biz posters are as money grubbing careerist as I am

>>10181256
>It's definitely not the path for every person or market but I imagine most dedicated biz posters are as money grubbing careerist as I am
I definitely am.
I've honestly been considering applying to Apple since I imagine they're probably the least insufferable of FAANG stocks, but I'd honestly be fine kicking as at Amazon for a year or two for a nice lift in my career.
Otherwise, stocks have really piqued my interest because I don't want to rely on people to get what I want out of life.

>>10181237
Probably not. The write-off was basically the result of a PE firm fucking around with USTN's pricing but ending up getting too aggressive with it. The other factor in this, is that as part of USTN's restructuring, ETM is getting an equity stake in the company

*wakes up*
wheres the podcast comfy

>>10181282
Will the new stakeholder try For management changes? That's the only remaining concern I'd have. Seems pretty low risk to me, but also not a moon shot. I'd watch for a while and look for an entry point. Upside is here but it's a make a percentage then exit play. I'd be happy with 10%, but also be unwilling to hold longer than 6mos because I'm impatient

>>10181281
I like stocks for the same reason. Big tech pays well and looks great on the resume but it's not for climbers other than the office politics types. I hear the best stuff for ambitious types around Amazon. Google, Twitter and fb are nightmares, do not touch. MS pretty stereotypical corporate boomerville

>>10181556
>I like stocks for the same reason. Big tech pays well and looks great on the resume but it's not for climbers other than the office politics types.
I think I've noticed a knack for the VP+ people to have an MBA. Not a fan.
>I hear the best stuff for ambitious types around Amazon.
Yeah, the articles weren't really scaring me.
>Google, Twitter and fb are nightmares, do not touch. MS pretty stereotypical corporate boomerville
Google has one of those "flat" hierarchies. The project managers are total fucking rockstars.
I heard Microsoft is trying to change, but I have no faith in post-Bill Gates era. They've just been playing catch-up since Windows 7.

BBBBBRBRRRAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPP

Am /drink/
Who els?

Have any of you Americans heard of Afterpay?

I'm getting 1k from centrelink bank next week, what stock should I drop it into? In Australia via commsec if anyone has any bright ideas

>>10181927
Fought with girlfriend and now I am very /drink/, even /smokingcigarettesonthebalcony/.

New favorite zucc:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H34QpoJsmrw

>>10181927
First thing gonna do tomorrow when home is super drunk ( gin & topochico) and (cry) until forget traumatic experiences kek >_>

>>10181969
In America, it is 4:30AM EST. Maybe 12:30AM Pacific time?
Afterpay tho... Is that anything like after-birth?

>>10182051
Z U C C

>>10182052

>>10182052
don 4get 2 post butiful bepis wen home ^_^
or els... U get a tast of me shoe O_o

>>10182064
Ah, its some phone app that allows you to pay for stuff over 4 interest free payments over 2 months. It's kind of like a lay-by,

Their mcap in australia has increased from around 500m to 2bn in about a year, with the majority of those gains probably pricing in their expansion to America.

Was just wondering if some american friendos have heard of it.

>>10182157
If it was huge in America, it'd probably hit a 10b market cap with the way things are going...
SPOT, P, SQ, SHOP, GRUB, GDDY, OKTA, CVNA, SNAP
Particularly if their EPS is positive or they're experiencing massive subscriber growth with a clear monetization strategy, which SNAP clearly lacks

>>10182174
Shit. Forgot to change my tripcode back lol

>>10182174
Yeah they charge retailers a 4% fee per item transaction, or charge people 7$ for every missed payment.

Unfortunately, I see them essentially extending lines of credit to, the already poor populace. I.e they're just handing out ninja loans for bullshit like clothes.

I think their biggest risk is a regulatory one.

In any case, I hope it does take off there, it'll be nice to profit of the financial illiteracy of normies

>>10181927
remember getting drink recommendations by somebody in this thread; then ended up never drinking gin ever again
what an expensive, rubbing alcohol tasting experience that was, I'll stick to whiskey until I find something better

I wish the markets were open god damn it

Is trump ruining the economy yet or not

>>10181140
I can code and do hardware, I help out technically on projects to fill in the gaps when I have to. Just quit my last job after 1 yr, got a promotion after 8 months but I wasn't happy with the raise I got. Going into a rotational program at the new place with the full intent of getting into management. I do want to hang around for at least 5yrs tho. Want to have something on my resume that's more than 1 yr.

>>10181099
Would never do a masters without my company paying for it. I hear a big part of masters is doing networking (which I didn't get to do much in engineering)

>>10182856
no
Emperor Trump is dumping the market for you to buy the dips and protect the US companies so they can grow bigger more easily

>>10182913
Track programs are a good option if you're going to stick around at a place for a while. If you're really committed to the 5 years, see if there's benefits offered to get a masters at night or part time. A big part of a masters is research and a thesis for cs. Networking is one of, and maybe the, biggest benefits of higher ed degrees but not a requirement per se for engineering. Definitely is for an mba though. A cs masters is now the preferred degree for tech big boys as well; it's a stiffer competition for entry level fresh grads.

>>10183149
I can get a masters part time, but it has to be approved (aka show you'll stick around). I could do a CS masters, but I feel like it would be more work and I wouldn't make much use of it anyways

What news is useful to follow for precious metals? I'm looking to start swinging on leveraged gold/ silver etfs and find the movements much less intuitive than for biotech and oil

thinking of pumping 500 into hmny it's so cheap. if it does anything i'll be rich!

>>10182200
>mfw
Kek if not post this would have just kept on thinking me made very informed posts and not remember

>>10183241
Imo HMNY whales have declared their intentions for not let anyone profit from their stock
It going to 0 ;_;

>>10183241
More massive dilution coming
the company has no clue how to profit off of moviepass
bleeding 40 million a month off of 5 million subscribers.

>>10183374
Bleeding money is exactly how they profit off moviepass.

>>10183406

>>10183570
What's this -> ?
OwO

>>10183570
What's this -> ?
OwO

Will tesla shoot up if musk saves these thai ladyboy spelunkers? Really need to offload this shit, I got in at an awful entry point

I went to bed and wake up to find several kneepad posters. This is concerning. God damn weekends suck.

>>10183703
This how that image ends of anyone wondering

Uh oh getting confused again x.x

>>10183832
Thanks just got fired

>>10183703
>>10183832
source before you're both banned; thank you in advance for your timeliness

>>10183855
Naturally Reddit fags can't take a joke. I got a good laugh out of that.

>>10182052
Did somebody say Gin?

is 2.5% growth a good goal for a beginner like me that is trading penny stocks and options?

>>10183937
Why dont you trade big companies if all you want is 2,5%?

>>10183943
because I'm afraid I'll lose my money if the market crash and lots of people say its gonna happen this year.

>>10183406
Me thinks HMNY owner need give blood to blood god in order finance his blood libel
Requires financing but once per month
Awoo ^_^ to the moon!

>>10183788
Musk surely know profitability of thai ladyboy
Lack of entry points may pose monetization challenge but skill for cook books like enron make qt thai boys major return on investment for many quarters to come

>>10183952

>>10183952
But its even easier to lose money with penny stocks. If you are afraid of a crash there are big ass consumer staples companies that do well in bear markets and they have dividends around 2-3 %.

>>10183971

>>10183977
not to mention consumer staples ALREADY crashed, so you are buying the bottom

>>10183703
>>10183956
Alright, these were both me. I'm really enjoying imitating the posting style.
My IP address keeps changing, but I'm guessing RKG finally left the hospital and also had an IP address change and is now coincidentally that sbux ID

>>10184073
I cannot be fooled, I've studied kneepad long enough to know her mannerisms.

>>10183952
>this year
No buddy. Need to improve your reading skills a bit.
The yield curve is just flattening. No inversion yet.
Feds don't predict recession until 2020.

>>10183971
This fucking guy.
>Penny stocks
>Recession naow
>Recession impacting penny stocks in the same way that Bitcoin crash impacts shitcoins
>Shooting for 2.5%
>Having such a meager target, then going for fucking pennies
>Not knowing to just go for a fucking index with such a meager target
Holy shit. The shitcoin trading is PALPABLE.

>>10183832
Uh oh, link's dead. I think she got b& again. RIP

>>10184123
Just spelling it out for the archives and those that needed a bit more clarity. RKG's posting style is truly an artform tho

>>10184152
I guess she picked a good day to get banned. Not like there is shit going on. She likes pushing the boundaries with her anime pics.

>make all this money on the stock market
>too afraid/opposed to taking any out and enjoying it
It's like saving an awesome potion for The Big Fight and then you wind up never using it

Help how do I stop doing this

>>10182204
Sounds basically like a credit card?

It's credit with a structured repayment system... Why not just use a credit card instead? It'd probably have better financing, but I imagine normies are too fucking stupid to do the math and figure that out

If the app is more convenient, I bet it could work, but I think credit card companies really have worked hard on the convenience and consumerism that makes it super fun to use credit cards instead.

>>10183241
Don't be a sucker.

>>10184199
I try to make enough every month to buy drugs.

>>10184199
>taking any out and enjoying it
Why the fuck would you do that?
No, stop that. This is a no fun zone.

Got some ftr $5 7/20 calls just to see what happens with that piece of shit. What do you guys got for buying a few long term puts on some bloated companies with dying business models? Did ok with a few Intel puts the past few weeks, closed those out already

>>10184139
but also why should I invest in big boi companies if I can get more profit from penny stocks? big companies only do 5% growth in a long period when if you scout a good penny stock it can easily do a 8% increase or maybe they can go down and you can short sell that stock.

>>10184204
This.
I have no fucking idea how people keep fucking buying it.
Literally how in the fuck do suckers keep finding it?
DRYS stopped gaining suckers over a year ago; nobody even brings it up anymore! This is mesmerizing. How the fuck does it work?
Is the Jew running the fucking company doing a stealthy ad campaign or something?

>>10184230
You're going to get burned on penny stocks more than you win, at least with big companies they're less volatile (because you don't know what you're doing this is better for you), and if it takes a dump I'd rather baghold a blue chip than some piece of shit

>>10184239
oh well any big companies I should long term invest if my portfolio is 500 dollar?

>>10184248
Shopify

>>10184230
>but also why should I invest in big boi companies if I can get more profit from penny stocks?
Because you can't.
Shitcoins have never made more money than the big coins.
Insiders sell on the pump and suckers sell on the dump.

>big companies only do 5% growth in a long period when if you scout a good penny stock it can easily do a 8% increase
Wrong.
Check out FAANG. Most are the biggest companies and highest growth.
>or maybe they can go down and you can short sell that stock.
For the few that are obvious shorts, such as DRYS, shorting is not an option.
For the others, like SDRL, which I personally learned my lesson on, the IV is too high for puts to be profitable, but also, if you do straight shorts, you can get mega-fucked too easily like that guy that shorted a company that Shkreli took over.

Why don't you just do a 3X ETF like SPXL, SOXL, TQQQ, FNGU? Or a tech company like FB, NFLX, AMZN?

>>10184275
because my account is small and I could probablyj just afford 1 stock of a big company.

>>10184230
lol wtf?
5%? the dividends alone will give 4% and they increase every year

also Pharma pennyshits literally move 50% up and down per day

>>10184248
>>10184263
Good answer.
SQ, SHOP, CVNA, TEAM, NVDA, AMD, FB, AAPL are my favorites -- in loosely decreasing order of preference & growth speed
AAPL is currently held by Buffett and has not a single analyst calling it a "sell" so it's the least likely to fail at meeting that 2.5% target, but I know you're an ornery brainlet and wouldn't do that.

>>10184299
Idk bud for $500 you're not going to be making very much money. People make money in the long run by doing the Warren buffet thing which is investing in safe dividend stocks and using the compound interest to re invest shares, or basically an s&p500 index fund that they continually make contributions to each month. 500 might be better off spent somewhere else unless you're planning on adding more to it at a steady pace, or you could always do some super risky trades trying to double your money where you'll eventually get burned and probably lose most of it. You could try day trading but it'll be risky, the bad news is $500 just really isn't very much. Maybe look into jumping in a few IPOs if you want to do risky shit

>>10184299
I don't think you understand that the actual stock price has zero correlation with the company size -- which is actually the "market cap"
Apple is a fair amount bigger than Amazon, but 1/10th the price at about $150.
In fact LMT and NOC, two defense contractors that are much, much smaller than Apple have about twice the price.
The reason is "shares outstanding"

I'll make an analogy to shitcoins for you.
Coin A has a million coins in existence at $1,000 each
>a cap of 1 billion dollars.
Coin B is a shit coin that thought it'd be cool to have 100 coins, and they've made it up to $50,000 each
>a cap of 5 million dollars
Coin A has a bigger cap and would be a "bigger company"

>>10179912
i have 1.5k to invest and im not sure how much to diversify, i was thinking 3 stocks of 500 each.
which stocks do you think i could get?

>>10184313
Ok I'll stop investing in penny stocks then. It just made sense to me since they are cheap so I can afford a shit ton of stocks and also since they are cheap a small increase means I'm gaining a lot of money.

>>10184328
this is my first month learning about this (literally started a week ago). Just placed some money I had saved, planning on adding 100-200 bucks every two weeks on my payouts. so 200 to 400 a month.

>>10184299
You could afford
>10 shares of SPXL
>2 shares of Apple
>2 shares of FB
>1 share of NFLX
>7 shares of SQ
>3 shares of SHOP

WAIT A MINUTE.
>>10183937
>2.5% growth
You could LITERALLY buy a fucking US Treasury and be guaranteed a yield of a little under 3% lest the fucking US government ABSOLUTELY COLLAPSES.
You are literally just being retarded and tremendous or possibly just a fucking troll.
What the fuck, dude.

>>10184390
Just don't get carried away, trust me on this. Maybe a good idea is for you to invest in some safe shit then go to one of those websites where you can have basically a practice account with fake money so you can see how you would do. Also another word of advice, take every article and everything you hear with a grain of salt. Bullshit websites like motley fool will fuck you up with their bullshit recommendations, also "analysts" are usually wrong too. Read up on fundamentals of investing, if you dont understand what a market cap is you need to pump the brakes and read more. Read up on options trading too

>>10184390
>Ok I'll stop investing in penny stocks then. It just made sense to me since they are cheap so I can afford a shit ton of stocks and also since they are cheap a small increase means I'm gaining a lot of money.
So are shitcoins, but how's that working out for those suckers?
Somebody's paying the developers.

>this is my first month learning about this (literally started a week ago). Just placed some money I had saved, planning on adding 100-200 bucks every two weeks on my payouts. so 200 to 400 a month.
I started out a little over a year and a half ago with literally 500 bucks -- exact same boat as you.
Pic related is a screenshot that I just took a couple minutes ago for this post.

I put 80% in SPY (fortune 500 index/ETF) and the rest in AMD (just any sufficiently big company that catches your interest will do when starting out). I added cash as I profited, gaining a comfortable buffer, and grew more knowledgeable.
My ROI would be much higher if it wasn't diluted from putting so much more in over the past year.

>>10184434
>Just don't get carried away, trust me on this. Maybe a good idea is for you to invest in some safe shit then go to one of those websites where you can have basically a practice account with fake money so you can see how you would do.
Paper trading is horse shit imo.
Maybe just start with mostly an index like SPY
>Also another word of advice, take every article and everything you hear with a grain of salt. Bullshit websites like motley fool will fuck you up with their bullshit recommendations, also "analysts" are usually wrong too.
Kek yes. I didn't know motley fool was shit too. I mainly think of seeking alpha, which is written by literally anybody that can make an account.
>Read up on fundamentals of investing, if you dont understand what a market cap is you need to pump the brakes and read more. Read up on options trading too
thepatternsite.com is a favorite of mine. Maybe we could start putting it in the OP?

What % is everyone goal to reach per trade day ? I want 2%+ each day and a maximum of 0.25% loss on a red day

>>10184414
but I heard that pros have a 5%-8% growth a month on their portfolios isnt aiming for getting half of that trading a good goal?

>>10184434
Yeah I've seen the meme of analysts fucking up again and again. I'll watch some more youtube videos to get research done.

>>10184468
So wait, you are telling me that since big companies are too big to fail because microsoft or apple going bankrupt is almost imposible in the near future, not only that but they are actually going always up in the long term I can just keep investing in them, take the profit invest in more companies like that and then reach a point where the money just flows alone?

What to you guys think?
FED is right 2Y and 10Y yield curve inversion is old and busted with their new metric the new hotness?
https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/dont-fear-the-yield-curve-20180628.htm

>>10184491
The market will never grant that kind of consistency.

Here's my week. I'd say this is what it'll look like on average when I'm trading properly and not doing anything wickedly ornery and stupid.
I'd say I'm at an undiluted YOY ROI of 30% to 50%.

I definitely was pulling 50% for a while until the trade war and getting to greedy with some massively volatile options against the bond market.

>>10184526
Looks like ur doing pretty well, And congrats for no DPT

My grandpa and my cousin says I'm supposed to have bonds. Are bonds worth anything or are they a boomer meme?

>>10184552

I'll estimate that around 50% of my entire stack is in bonds. Maybe a bit more right now. But then again, I am an actual boomer.

>>10184552
Having bonds to have bonds is a total boomer meme.

Unless you are actively trading/shorting/optioning the bond market, you are losing out to a simple S&P500 ETF by 4-10%

>>10184497
>but I heard that pros have a 5%-8% growth a month on their portfolios isnt aiming for getting half of that trading a good goal?
Maybe they do that sometimes. I'm up 24.83% for the last 3 months as you can see.
However, that's never been done long-term. And that's the thing to focus on!
Warren Buffett is the best investor alive because he's had the highest rate of return (for a human that's not leveraging algorithmic trading) over a multi-decade, full-career stretch.
Hedge funds get much higher returns in a one year period, but they also completely fucking blow out and get liquidated all the time.

>So wait, you are telling me that since big companies are too big to fail because microsoft or apple going bankrupt is almost imposible in the near future, not only that but they are actually going always up in the long term I can just keep investing in them, take the profit invest in more companies like that and then reach a point where the money just flows alone?
>you are telling me that since big companies are too big to fail
No, and that's a terrible statement to make.
However, when it looks like there's a risk that they can fail, everyone can tell from their quarterly reports and bail long before it actually happens -- that's what's happening with Tesla; it probably won't actually fail, but the math shows that it CAN by the end of the year.
>not only that but they are actually going always up in the long term I can just keep investing in them
No, they're definitely not always going up. Many have had red days. Some have had more than red days -- Yahoo, GE, Lehman Brothers -- Yahoo was actually regarded as the pinnacle of tech companies about 2 decades ago
>then reach a point where the money just flows alone
Some people live off their investments. You really have to know your shit though.

Hello boys
Just got back from "scouting" at rite aid. The entire section for Monster energy was SOLD OUT. The Redbulls werent even touched

something tells me they will kill it on next earnings

>>10184627
oh my god youre crazy!, I just had a energy drink its got me all kinda fucked up!

>>10184506
Lol nah.
Haven't read it yet, but an actual inversion has predicted something like the past 7 recessions.
I'm sure as fuck not ignoring it, even if I like the new thing that the feds put out.

>>10184547
Thanks. DPT?

>>10184552
Bonds are for when you're getting close to retirement.
You don't want to have your savings halve a year before you start pulling out.
So, boomer meme confirmed. I'm probably doing that when I hit 50-70 though too

Explain this

>>10184627
Based.
Buying MNST?

>>10184665
It's stupid. It just means more people are selling in the final hour of the trading day relative to the rest.
I'm just going to keep watching the yield curve for an inversion.

>>10184665
OH SHIT ITS HAPPENING

>>10184693

Ok

>>10184621
ok I'm lost then, I guess its time to hit the podcasts and blogs again and lurk a bit more, gonna take a month until I understand this shit because at the moment I only understand the lingo and basic shit.

Guess I'll start all over again on my strategy when I have 2k in my robinhood account, because right now I feel like a brainlet in here.

>>10184661
Ah you must not be american then, we are limited to 3 day trades per week if we have less than 25k in our account.

>>10184705
wtf happened in late 2016?

>>10184665
>>10184705
fuck off commie, keep losing

>>10184677
I bought at 49 and sold at 51 like a cuck

Dont forget to watch the newest Ciovcco video to rape your bear faggotness before week starts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlE8W6QfFpo

Did Comfy post an outdoor podcast yesterday? That faggot better have

>>10184739

Centrally planned money system is communism

>>10184627
Whole milk has been cleared out at my supermarket twice in the last month...
Although I think that had more to do with it being soured.

>>10184677
Hey scoops, I'm wanting to get into ML over the summer, and while I capped most of the interesting posts in these threads I think I'm missing one where you share some links on how to get into it. Do you know which one I'm talking about? I think it was directed at RKG.

Also, how long would you say it'd take to get up to speed?

>>10184758
Based ciovaccio poster

>>10184627
Looking at $70 calls for Sep 21

This chart looks promising and with the summer season coming to a close, I would imagine we could get close to $70 by end of September.

Any thoughts?

>>10184775
nobody cares about your commie faggot opinion. Stay mad as the sp goes to 3000 and beyond and Drumpf wins a second term

>>10184780
It should be known, I sold my Deans because the target was 11! If you are following my trades. Just saying incase those that follow my trades

Tbh ne own server farm
It impossible to ban me true IP not that was banned
Rip epic sbux ID

REMINDER last time me got Gpro ID gopro went from $4.50 to $7

Long 15x leverage Sbux now!!

>>10184792
No dont actually do this

>>10184795

O-ok

>>10184814
This but unironically. Interest rates are rising, all that free money ain’t free anymore, and the belt is gonna tighten. Whether businesses have prepared for this, we’ll have to see. I imagine the top 100 companies are going to be fine for years to come, but smaller companies will struggle to overcome it.

>>10184814
Damn that’s a scary chart

Ok ok I won’t put money into memes

White Mon$ter Nigga

>>10184661
>Bonds are for when you're getting close to retirement.

See, you get it. It is about risk tolerance, and this changes as you get older. Bonds will become your best friend at some point in your life.

>>10184804
why is that girl sucking the other girl's vagina at work?

wont people notice?

>>10184940
>go to sbux @ 5 in morning like every day & order hot chocolate
>kinda fat rasta guy there by himself this morning
>we flirt like every day
>he gives hot chocolate kinda slow one day
>me drink....
(Am very familiar with taste of manchowder)
>hot chocolate has very distinct aftertaste of cum
>spend rest of day tryin 2 get taste of cum out of mouth
No one would notice if early enough in day #_#

Posting first time on /biz/, pls no bully.
Didn't know where to ask but this thread seems like it could give me info which I seek, and didnt wanna make thread about.
What is this shit about US/China trade war, can you give me some basic info or atleast link me somewhere. I dont really trust opinionated msm so if you could just get me started on this topic and where to look I would greatly appreciate it.

They got me a long time ago, Winston.

>>10184982
LARP

>>10184982

nice blog faggot.

>>10185003
>>10185007
100% not larp
Still have cup in fridge looking for test 4 lawsuit

>>10184982
please wait until after it hits 52 to lawsuit

>>10185011
you are a larping faggot, you may be fooling a couple people but you don't fool me. You are just a 30 year old fat dude that watches way to much anime then come onto 4chan and larp about some shit that doesn't exist

>>10185011
fuck off faggot tripfag.

>>10185023
Am wait until 56 for lawsuits

>>10185032
Wtf me drink literally cun & know cum taste

>>10185033
>how 3 spot newdag 101
> they call me trip fag

>>10184988
if you are going to get into this kind of life be prepared to change your whole view on society. We are now out of the pussy cuck phase in which we call the "obama administration" we are now going into a business mindset economy, in doing so we need to either A) level playing field or B) get an upper hand.

Looks like trump is going to go for the upper hand then settle for level playing field imo. Start high so you have room to come down, he's that type of person.

The u.s. has been getting walked on by china and other countries because the u.s. leaders did not give a fuck about the country. Expect some volatility until the "trade war" has settled, imo we see an uptrend in futures until then.

>>10185079
you drink your own cum dude? wtf.

>>10184506
Alright, finished reading. Good article.
It seems like a nice indicator to pick up and start watching when I finish digesting just wtf it is.

>>10184705
That's GLOBAL.
>GLOBAL
yes, there are certainly other countries, particularly emerging markets that are getting fucking RAILED by the rate hikes, going through a recession either now or in the near future.
US recessions are typically independent of others, as we saw with Greece

>>10184708
Just dump some shit in SPY.
IIRC, only Buffet has managed to continuously beat that index.

>>10184716
Oh, no, I'm American. I've done some daytrading and actually got flagged. Trying to cut back on it though.

>>10184721
Europe, particularly Greece, financial crisis

>>10184739
Kek, but what reason did you have to be in it until now?

>>10185084
I understand most of what you are talking about, but Ill still ask for confirmation.
>Start high so you have room to come down, he's that type of person
I noticed.
>The u.s. has been getting walked on by china and other countries because the u.s. leaders did not give a fuck about the country.
How exactly? Is this about getting manufacturing back to US? Thats the only thing I know about it really.

Sorry if this is wrong place to ask, but I saw some info about stock prices dropping because of trade war on an unrelated board, thought this would be best place to ask.

>>10185127
>Kek, but what reason did you have to be in it until now?
That was when I was buying up every consumer as possible, now they all went up at 15% so I sold a lot. Still keeping PEP and GIS for life

>>10185093
Yeah too l8 newfag you lose all cred
Me wish could cum

>>10185135
Trade war is a meme dude.... Buy every Fearful dip you can

>>10185155
This how me know tw not priced in yet

>>10185144
jesus christ your larping is getting out of hand.

>>10185135
Some people might be able to tell you in here more about it. some people in here base their trades off news like that, i don't. It's all bullshit to keep normies paying attention to "something" imo

>>10184758
Subscribed.
I'll watch it.
Thanks.

>>10184780
>Hey scoops, I'm wanting to get into ML over the summer, and while I capped most of the interesting posts in these threads I think I'm missing one where you share some links on how to get into it. Do you know which one I'm talking about? I think it was directed at RKG.
There was a series of 3 for RKG.
I really need to compile it into a single infographic.
>Also, how long would you say it'd take to get up to speed?
I've been at this for 2-3 years, I'd ballpark it at around at least a couple months, but that's after being up to speed with programming itself too.
Programming is a separate hurdle, but you thankfully don't need to have as much skill for it if you just leap into data science/ML, which is a very different paradigm
Are you teh_profit, tech exec anon, or another regular? I want to know so I can make a mental note to hit you with an info dump whenever I can

Here's a snippet from the batch of 3 that you can search the archives for until I get my shit together:

>Helped fren figure out some real estate KPI with Weka, that's about it. Would show but it not loading right now for some reason...
That's fine if you can't pull it up.
Was just interested in your background here, since it didn't fit with the whole hooker story.
>Am very amature at programming and using ML in general. Background is network admin.
>But it's very obvious ML is future and me desperately trying learn it. That one main reason why taking up trading so seriously. It's way to get practical practice doing math and programming.

>>10185166
There is no Trade war and never will be

>>10185190
>Subscribed.
you need to spend today to watch all his video immediately. Theres a reason Im a perma golden bull

I have 10k (canadian pesos) for investing. Is earning 500 a week from stocks a realistic goal?

>>10185176
kk man, thanks.

>>10185210

5% per week? Sure. Reliably, week after week? No, at least not by me.

>>10184804
Me might unironically do this >_>

>>10184814
>literally drawing whatever fucking lines you want on a chart and calling it TA

>>10184884
Exactly.
It's roughly the same reason why you don't do 100X leverage on SPY or live off your investments as soon as the average growth would support your lifestyle.

>>10184988
You're right to call bullshit on MSM, they're very Machiavellian and see in shit what they know people want to see or gets them views.
WSJ is pretty unbiased, although mildly conservative. WSJ is the only news source that I don't have to absolutely cake in a thick layer of salt.

>>10185011
>>10185079
I'm still operating under the assumption that you're a chick, but it's understandable that it's so hard to believe there's a chick on here. I think there's more traps than actual chicks on the majority of this site.

>>10185190
Thanks.
Looking forward to that compilation. I mostly lurk and I doubt there's much to remember me by, but if you have something interesting you can also post it on cripplechan and I won't miss it.

>>10185304
>WSJ
Ill give it a try. Thank you.

>>10185176
>Some people might be able to tell you in here more about it. some people in here base their trades off news like that, i don't. It's all bullshit to keep normies paying attention to "something" imo
idk if it's so much to keep normies distracted so much as the normies wanting to be distracted.
The world can't be full of leaders; somebody has to be a follower. Not everyone was born to lead and figure their shit out.
Perhaps the slaves have learned to love and cling to their shackles?

But on the other hand, the tariffs and trade war really will impact some company's bottom lines through rising import costs.
There's no way that I can properly account for this and predict the fall out though and it will reach a resolution, so I'm definitely not trading off it.
I do like to cite the cold war and the lack of mention about the stock market throughout textbooks on the topic.

>>10185203
Am have many rich aristocratic Chinese friends!
Ones who tought me how 2 trade & dominate market

They have been trained for trade war all their life!!
Tw totally going 2 happen & it will be intense

>>10185314
Barron's has some good articles as well.

>>10185371
the difference is USA has been at violent war for a long time and we have the biggest military on earth ready to kill whoever wherever 24/7. IF the chinese think they will game USA they will find out our end game isnt economic but violent. We dont even care about winning or losing just killing as many as possible

>>10185377
I've seen some good perspective pieces in the Economist.

>>10185203
I've got it pulled up on my phone and it's not leaving.
I have some stuff that's more time sensitive that needs to happen, but I'll watch it and note back when I have.

>>10185312
>you can also post it on cripplechan and I won't miss it.
Noted.
I'll probably wrap up something nice tonight.

>>10185314
No problem.
I seriously can't even handle the New York fucking Times anymore for being too sensationalist. Shit's getting absurd.
The Wall Street Journal really is king in my book.

>>10183937
>beginner
>options
No don't do this. Your annualized earnings target should be 7-8%. This is the whole market's average return. So you're trying to beat just sticking stuff in index funds

>>10185371
chinese will be shorting american assets and making tariffs while our subs are lining up on the coast and aircraft carriers filled ot the gills with death get itchy fingers

>>10184199
Pick something big and nice to work towards like a house or vacation as a reward. Tangible goals rather than just LET'S GET LOADED BOYYYZZZ

nuclear holocaust in china beats trade war sillyness all day everyday. its like paper scisors rock playing then the guy with a knife pisses off the guy with 10000000 nukes

>>10184199
Get so loaded that you can use passive income from dividend stocks/MLPs/REITs for fun. That's my goal at least.

>>10185377
>>10185392
Can we have a nice extended discussion on this?
It really is a serious issue.

>Wall Street Journal
Based
>Bloomberg
Seems fine

>Seeking alpha
Trash. Literally anybody that makes an account can submit an article.
>Zero Hedge
Entertaining and can give some info, but has predicted exactly 37 of the last 2 recessions (no typo). Too much /pol/ style tinfoil-hat bear posting. Nice for scaring you out of shit.
>Motley Fool
I heard this is trash too, but I haven't really read it and don't know why

>iHub
Big5guy said he likes this, and I never forgot it.
>Barron's
sounds alright
>The economist
sounds alright
>Yahoo Finance
I honestly think it might not be as bad as my intuition tells me. Any thoughts?

>>10184299
It's the percent change that matters, not how many shares you own. Unless you're trying to get voting control or board influence, which you aren't.

what the heck is this "trade war" you guys keep clammering on about

>>10184468
Rh adjusts your roi for deposits/ withdrawals

>>10185399
Im not kidding, I only listen to people with 20 years+ experience and civocoo is smarter than anyone Ive ever met that trades. You need to watch ALL his videos the past year

>>10185371
Chinese dont know anything about american markets babe, they know very few things: Dog torture and market FUD, and Im all out of market fud

>>10183937
>>10185407
This.
I missed the part about the options.
Yeah, don't fucking jump into options, dude.
I really ought to stop touching them myself.

>>10185436
I've got a few vague ideas in the back of my head.
Buying real estate at a next market bottom, sending my possible future kids to college for free, live off that shit and invest in philanthropic shit that I've always wanted to make happen

>>10185458
Wtf are MLPs? Multi-Layer Perceptrons? I know you're not talking about machine learning tho

>>10185497
It definitely doesn't
>pic related
I definitely didn't start with over 20k.

>>10184988

>>10185537
Master limited partnerships is muh guess. I hold KYN which invests in those.

>>10185210
No

>>10185488
You're kidding.

>>10185499
>Im not kidding, I only listen to people with 20 years+ experience and civocoo is smarter than anyone Ive ever met that trades. You need to watch ALL his videos the past year
Shit. Thanks. Was NOT aware.
I've been looking for shit like that, so I'll be sure to really go through his stuff now.
My favorite resource so far has been thepatternsite.com, but I also know that I absolutely need to go through Buffett's letters. Have you gone through Buffett's letters yet?

>Chinese dont know anything about american markets babe, they know very few things: Dog torture and market FUD, and Im all out of market fud
Kek. This. Their stock market is primarily driven by emotions.
Their whole economy is a fucking facade because they know nothing but how to copy.
It's so bad that most international students from over there get kicked out pretty quickly from college here for cheating or plagiarism because plagiarism is basically not even a concept over there.

>>10185537
>Wtf are MLPs?

Master limited partnerships. Massive yields because of their tax structure, but there has been a lot of unit price volatility lately. Also, the accounting can be a bit complicated at tax time.

>>10185586
nah redpill me please, Im only back in the stock market after a long break or is it a 4chan meme?

>>10185546
Interesting.
I need to read up on those.

>>10185605
Because of that FERC ruling thing. I read some of them might convert to c-corps.

Got shit to do, famalam.
Probably done for the day, or at least a while.
Cya

>>10185537
Here's my all time chart. Add i said, the % change is absolutely adjusted for deposits and withdrawals because i cashed out last year to buy a house and had a much higher balance so you'd see the fattest crash ever (not the one in the middle, that was from not paying attention to the market for a while and being in some super volatile stuff), and recent huge green dildoes from deposits. If you're referring to the current nominal dollar value, no it is not adjusted because it's your current account value.

>>10185586
Yeah I read buffets letters, Buffet is one of my heroes and berkshire is the greatest company of all time

>>10184204
What's the name of this site again?

>>10185390
>>10185409
Kek
America still loser if have 2 resort 2 violent
If we want 2 kill China we have 2 kill them with trade

DrusCrus the memestock of the summer

>>10185698
Oops forgot original

>>10185717
well, its true

If everyone killed at least 1 other person, the world would be a better place

>>10185618
This is correct, or at least we read the same thing.

I wish Elon Musk would be my qt sperg bf

Can you artificially create a recession using the stock market? I'm wondering because of all that Chinese money coming in.

>>10180584
I'm also expecting this or strong words from China but honestly at this point who the fuck cares anymore? Every country and their mothers have threatened us with tariff blowback and everyone is slowly starting to realize that the US has little to lose in a trade war despite the talking heads on TV going mad about it.

I expect to see a slight pullback on SPY early morning Monday with a nice bounce late-day.

>>10186299
He'd probably give you a shot if you give good head and surrender your boi pucci to him. Hell he's already dating a trap.

>>10185409
The Chinese specialize in missiles the same way Russia specializes in anti-aircraft tanks and we specialize in aircraft. They are really fucking shitty missiles right now but theyre stealing tech like mad. I honestly think this is why Trump opened up the space marines. Land missile defense is shit but space based ones should work.

>>10182051
God what a train wreck of a human being.

>>10186304
whatever's happening is worrying me enough to just build up cash instead of continuing to add to my investments

>>10183937
Options are fine just don't be a retard and buy a bunch of cheap ones thinking they are going to grow in value for you. Buy ones with like 4-month expiration and that are in the money. Hold them for like 2 weeks and dump them.

>>10186365
My goal is to be as disconnected from the broader market as possible. Memes will not be affected in the crash, and will continue in a golden bull run
pic related

>>10186299
wheres the podcast weeb

>>10186478
First of all, I am not a disgusting weeb. Two nukes were not enough.
I'm working on it right now, it will contain actually helpful information for you retarded "investors"

>>10186472
that's somewhat true but then you'd have to actually pick winners consistently

>>10185698
This. There is a reason the US and China have never invaded each other. China has too many ground forces for us to go there, and we have too many naval ships for them to sail or fly here. It keeps us at bay with one another. Their faggy friends like N.Korea are fucked though.

>>10186533
Does China even have any """friends""" besides NK? What other country actually likes them? China itself has like 1/7th of the worlds population, do they need any friends?

>>10186533
>too many ground forces
No. The reason is the distance involved and the overall population. Unless we are willing to torch cities we can't win. Guerilla warfare would start almost instantly because China has nothing to back up their infantry. The first gulf war already proved superior numbers mean nothing if they can push past tanks while hiding from aircraft and China is shit at both those so the USA would push them back. Then we would get slaughtered by their civilians or condemned for genocide by the whole world, one of the two. And China has no chance at breaking into our country try for the same reason they couldn't hold back our attack.

>>10186600
Ok so my point exaclty. Thanks.

>>10186550
I mean I guess Iran and Russia are sort of in their corner but I can't imagine either of them coming to China's aid if it meant facing the US.

>>10186626
Getting off-topic though. This is /pol/-tier discussion.

>>10186631
yeah, we love jews here

>>10186638
With Jews, you win!!
YWH's chosen people!

>>10186638
I don't love jews, just their money

Anyone here have experience with antimicrobial memes?
I'm looking at NBRV due to 52 week low and insider transactions. Their publications look fine, but I want to be able to compare them.
Current competition is easy enough to find, but does anyone know of any past successes or failures in the industry?

>>10186705
I'd impulse buy it but it's not on robinhood yet :(

>>10183241
Better off hopping on the DrusCrus
I’ll say it again, if it hits .10 I will give you an amazing tip. The one I never share. A 250 million dollar company trading at 7 mil market cap. With a BIG catalyst coming.

>>10184275
Anybody telling you to buy fang is a fucking idiot. FB, GOOG, NFLX, TWTR all in for some pain.

>>10187000
google and apple might come out alright. They actually make money. FB is decently valued as well but they will have issues expanding/growing. netflix, twitter and amazon are all extremely overvalued to the point of being priced to perfection.

>>10186980
>With a BIG catalyst coming.
Which is?

If you're buying stock at their now ATH price, you really do need to neck yourself instantly. Along with sayori

>>10187160
CARV

>>10186336
>and everyone is slowly starting to realize that the US has little to lose in a trade war
The FED itself noticed industrial investments have totally stalled in the US since the beginning of the tariffs shit.

>>10187248
And?
The FED is a joke. They can't even balance a checkbook. You're better off listening to MSNBC than the FED.

>tfw weekend

nothing to do but drink beer and complain

>>10187296
And the most retarded comment ITT goes too... Anon!!!!

>>10187402
I have that feel. Except I chug Zero Ultra Monsters instead of Beer

>>10187419
i am confirmed older than you but you choose the boomer drink. nice touch

>>10187439
I only started drinking them ironically when the boomer meme started and now I'm addicted.
Stick with beer, Anon

>>10187450
>unironically get addicted to drugs through irony

biz is a modern marvel

>>10187468
I just hope heroin or meth doesn't become a meme because I'll start using ironically

tick tock

>>10186787
RGSE pretty much reset my impulse buy timer for at least a couple of weeks. That was shit.

>>10187600
full disclosure i watch chris the golden bull of golden bulls every video and i'm still increasing cash because i think a better buying opportunity is coming in the not distant future

>>10187600

>>10187636

*note: interest rates are rising as the dollar is getting tightened

>>10187402
You could do some research. At least that's how I try to keep busy.

> Look over trades you made and focus on the ones that didn't work out.
> Read articles you neglected during the week and get a feel for the market. Get a sense of what is hype, what is fear and what is real.
> Look into a sector you are unfamiliar with and learn the basics. This is how I found out about MLPs/REITs and other passive income vehicles besides dividend stocks.
> Actually read earnings reports or listen to last quarter's conference calls. If you are good are smelling bullshit, this pays off and lets you know when you should and should not believe management.

>>10187647

>>10187668

*buybacks are financed mainly via. debt on which the interest rates are increasing now

>>10187653
this is actually really good advice thanks. this would be more productive. earlier post is just frustration that once you reach a certain age if you don't have your own family started everyone works a different schedule or has family obligations and it's impossible to hang out or just do something on short notice. and i refuse to go to bars and shit though maybe i should. but either way thanks man especially the sectors thing

>>10187653
>>10187697
NO, escape the world of investing on weekends. Money is ultimately meaningless and you should go do things of value.
Read, write, go work out, form right wing death squads, establish a holy caliphate, date whatever.
Don't let your life be consumed by gambling

>>10187724
>>10187724
>Money is ultimately meaningless and you should go do things of value

sort of but

>investing
>gambling

seems you still have plenty to learn

i guess i should just go do "stuff" but i addressed that up above. i don't know how. guess i'm just an autistic retard that should stick to obsessing over green and red numbers

>>10187755
>investing isn't gambling
A U T I S T I C
D E G E N E R A G T E
C O P E
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>>10187784
trading is gambling. investing is long-term and based on owning solid companies that produce value. investing really has nothing to do with gambling but these threads are basically only gambling so i can see how you think that

>>10187807
The only """investing""" that isn't gambling is to buy a vanguard index fund and leaving it like a boomer cuck for 50 years to tap into after your done wagecucking and wait to die.

Doing anything else is literally (((betting))) you're smart enough to beat the overall market
Buy KO? GAMBLING
Buy F? GAMBLING
Buy AMD? RETARDED AND GAMBLING
Investors are just as much of degenerates as traders only in slow motion

>>10187836
well are you? do you have insider info? how much are you up?

>>10187903
Am I what? Not a degenerate gambler?
Of course I'm a degen, you retard. I'm a poorfag up to his eyeballs in shitty trades

>>10187919
>>10187836
>(((betting))) you're smart enough to beat the overall market

i was asking if you're smart enough to beat the market. you just told me you're not. if you don't have insider info or genius iq with proprietary algos you shouldn't be gambling if you're serious about making money

>>10187674
>>10187647
>>10187674
Stop you are scaring me senpais

>>10187951

Cash out and wait or go short

>>10187936
You always have a chance to beat the market out of blind luck, let's not forget that. It's been working famously for me.

>>10187960
You are way behind if this is news to you, no offense

>>10187965
yeah, but not in the long-term that's why it's literally gambling. just like you always have a chance to win at roulette. but for every gbr there's 5-10 bad trades. if you ever find yourself up on a gamble invest it don't gamble profits away. that's why people with lots of money don't do risky shit. once you get a decent capital stack one bad trade can take away a year's wage

>>10187981

Nope, but it's much better to do it now than wait to the bottom. Some cuck was flaunting how much he was investing in SPY a couple of weeks ago

>>10187479
Sounds like an excuse to experiment with substances.

>>10187987
I do have a lot of long term plays, I just don't have a ton of capital, but I'm sure you assumed that already.

>>10187936
You are 100% correct I'm not smart enough to beat the market. However, I believe I'm lucky enough to beat the market through the power of memes.

>>10187987
Time frame doesn't take away from the fact all investing is betting on the future. Also, betting on the future is called gambling :^)

>>10188138
>Time frame doesn't take away from the fact all investing is betting on the future. Also, betting on the future is called gambling :^)

yeah but just like you make the bet you'll wake up tomorrow or the earth will still exist. the odds are pretty good

>>10188183
The Earth surviving and the market crashing are a little bit different

>>10188251

*autistic screeching*

>>10188347
>i can't accept I gamble for a living so I'll project my autistic screeching on someone else

>>10188251
If the market tanks than the world may as well be over because my sweet gains will get wiped out.

>>10188138
>all investing is betting on the future. Also, betting on the future is called gambling

I would modify this to say that any investment where risk > 0 is gambling. I don't mind admitting that I am a degenerate gambler. But, I do try to make my bets only when I think I have a high probability of winning.

>>10188009
kill yourself faggot commie
spy to 300

>>10188381
This is a good statement

>>10188366

that was my autistic screeching it's not green bro. and i don't live off my investments. hopefully one day though

>no podcast

jesus fucking christ this place got 50% more insufferable
I left for like 7 hours what the fuck

long SND, long HCLP, long CVIA
short GPRO, short GME

congrats I made you 500 bucks; no need to thank me I don't use a namefag to stroke my ego
acting like a cunt on the internet is pay enough

>>10188480
I'm about to start a better fucking podcast that delivers regularly and on time if he doesn't get his shit together. I love that podcast.
>>10188495
This has to be lolq, I can tell already.

>>10188395

Yeah maybe after the next impending market dump you cuck.
>He thinks the market isn't cooked to shit via. federal reserve manipulation

>>10188518
1. SPX will go to 3000
2. Trump will win a second term

theres nothing you can do about it :) So fuck off with your outdated doomsday faggot shit

>>10188507
you talking about the guy that was talking a bunch about low IQ?
what the fuck was he hawking back then; was it literally the ticker IQ?

if it was I'm glad he got raped by china; teach him a good lesson about trusting a ruthless enemy

>>10188570
He had bought short term Tesla 350 calls and AMD 20 calls if he wasn't larping, that wiped him out.

>>10188138
No, in gambling there is a set end period where the results are shown and there is a winner and a loser. In investing, the result is whatever people vote it to be with their dollars unless the company declares bankruptcy or pays more dividends than the shares are worth. In gambling, the less likely the event, the higher the payout. In investing, there is very little payoff for being contrarian as everyone can vote one way and they all win because they voted the same way. In sports betting, books are balanced. In investing, books are inherently unbalanced.

Gambling is more honest than investing.

>>10188597
oh that guy, he was a larper no fucking doubts
fucking retard never showed his positions, coinfag trying to spread misfortune?
I won't speculate on retardation if I can't profit from the time spent.

give me your positions and I'll research into them and tell you whether or not you've made bad choices
see if you can redeem namefags in my eyes

>>10188532

No doubt he'll win, but if you're buying at the peak right now after a 10 year bull run you literally have a subzero nigger IQ. My condolences

>>10188626
It was Musk himself, he didnt post positions because it would give away his millions

>>10188629
Just shut up, youve been trading for maybe 1 month, you have no merit in your words

>>10188495
>short gpro
You dun fudged the fudge UP

>>10188626
My portfolio is going to be one of the worst to look at. My portfolio will not shed a good light on trip fags. Anyway, here it is.

>>10188640

Put your money where your mouth is and put that cash into a triple levered S&P500 ETF. China just entered recession-tier market trends and valuations and EMs are getting JUST'd but a rising dollar ft. rising interest rates

Also I think comfy filtered me which is unfortunate.

>>10188660
Dont talk to me insect

>>10188672

Okay. This is epic.

making new thread

>>10188727
NEW
>>10188727
NEW

>>10188495
> permian basin has too much gas not enough infrastructure
> oil producers may need to curtail production because of limit on flaring gas
> less oil production means less demand for fracking sand

idk about those longs senpai, I think you are too early. I'm watching oil but likely waiting until August/September to buy.

>>10185478
do you ever go onto ihub? it's honestly one of the best places to get DD on penny stocks and corporations in general imo. How corporations work, how different filings work, how to get involved with the company you are invested in etc.

So many people forget that when you buy shares to a company, you are doing just that.. buying shares of a company.. I've talked to so many CEOs about their company and they are just people like you or I. When you have 5-10k invested in a company only worth 100-200k you start becoming a relevant player in their stock aswell as their company. Alot of penny sheets contact info is the CEO themself and many people will call them and talk to them. Ihub will give you that sense of involvement imo. People are investing/trading those companies on the back end aswell as the front end and most of those investors are on ihub. I haven't found anywhere else that you can get so much DD and communicate with people and learn such as ihub.. besides.. of course... /smg/

>>10186496
>I'm working on it right now, it will contain actually helpful information for you retarded "investors"
but aren't you a retarded investor? hmm ol case of the blind leading the blind?