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oh man you have gotten really justed huh

cant post it, deleted blockfolio in Jan.

>>10156300

6 months yeah, still up from 7000$ initial from last year March. Took quite some profits but meh..

>>10156303

Kept all I had on a ledger, only added them backdated to Blockfolio today, already regretting this decision now.

>>10156288
6 figures upper half here in losses, meh, I got into crypto in 2014, it has paid off pretty good so far, so no worries

>you ain’t seen nuffin kiddo

And yeah I only cashed out 10k near the top...

>>10156431
Ouch.

Don't have blockfolio, this is from cointracking.info. Currently sitting at 96k

>>10156431

damn, but at least you still got it good, you seem to be far ahead of your initial. Took out around 10k too. Thought taking out any more is going to ruin my momentum, ugh.

>>10156541
Ah it’s fucking shit isn’t it. You cash out any?

>>10156541

that timeline in cointracking makes for some painful reading

>>10156559
I got to quit a job I hated and live for 6 months without working and bought a new laptop. Cashed out about 20k total. Looking back those were pretty cool things to be able to do. Can't believe how greedy I was though haha, kept not wanting to sell because I thought it would keep going up!

>>10156559
You did pretty well only losing 3/4 of your value in this downturn. Did you sell for the ETH/BTC near the top?

Well my ath was 62k. At 10.7k now after having put in another 6k hhaha

>>10156584
>kept not wanting to sell because I thought it would keep going up!

Same i embodied the 'NEW PARADIGM!1!1!' meme. i could of payed off my fucking mortgage.

In kinda worried that there are too many people in are position that are going to sell if it gets close to jan prices which will prevent anything from actually reaching jan prices...

100k FUN
15K REQ

This was all the 4000 euros I had... I thought this is my chance to escape 2 years before the slaving starts

>>10156611
dw we will get greedy again if it goes back up.

W-will we ever hit the ATH again?

>>10156288
do you input every single trade in that app? I can't find good desktop program to monitor all trades cryptocompare got horrible, so now I use cointracking, which doesn't allow more than 200 trades

>>10156702

I didn't put in every single trade, just my holdings from Jan and it plotted the chart until today. Delta premium does let you add exchange API and adds every single trade along with fee cost.

Hodl they said

>>10156757
lmfao

>>10156757

lol, let me guess. You leveraged against another correlated asset and got rekt?

>>10156288
Can't really complain. Other than blockfolio being a piece of shit. I had 0.6 btc 6 months ago. Not sure why the graph looks like this.

>>10156288
Yeah last time I checked I was on 30k I've not opened delta since Jan

>>10156811
My graph got fucked up too somehow. Pisses me off. All my historical progress is lost.

Man i made 900k at peak at this was even a shitty trade performance
Technically i would have to pay 150k in tax for last year butni only have this amount left
YOLO

feels badman

Could be worse

>>10156865
Fuckin a christ dude. You literally made it. If it happens again, cash a couple hundred grand out at least

>>10156667

pls respond

>>10156935
no.

>>10156288
What are you talking about? I open my folio only when ATH comes.

$60k down to $4k

I've literally never tracked it and I don't plan to, pretty sure I would be hanging from a rope otherwise. I'm just a humble man hoping it is and will forever be up from what I've put in but I don't really average my entries or shit I buy when I feel like it, I have no idea how much I've put into this.

>>10157056

you should, this is the pain which shapes you into a man. Or potentially hasten your eventual and unavoidable suicide.

>>10157036
Jesus christ. How?

Tracked it for a short while but gave up on it. I honestly don't care to look at the coins or folio every fucking time to see what action happened.

I know from head round about how much I lost its like -30%

Around 600k 6 months ago.
Peaked at 1.2MM 2 months ago.
At about 400k currently.

>>10156541
Wow, I would have killed myself.

>>10156811
Nice larp

>>10157036
Jesus that's painful

>>10156303
Me too lel the pain

But guys honestly, im a 30 year old boomer who could have payed of his mortgage .... but i fell for the HODL meme. There are plently people like me here, and HELL NO that we are gonna be this stupid and greedy again. So we will not see this kind of collective retardation again. Im sorry guys but it is really over unless we find a new batch of retards willing to buy in.

>>10158300
Truth

>>10156288
28000 to 7000. :C

>>10158300
Next Bitcoin halving is just 1 year and couple of months away. It will be 6 bitcoins per block which will definitely make the price go boom. Just be patient and play the long game. We're all gonna make it

>>10158300

Yeah, I fell for the HODL meme too. Never fucking again.

>>10158300
>and HELL NO that we are gonna be this stupid and greedy again
You'll dump your bags next year when we hit 15k then FOMO in 6 months later just in time to buy the 150k top.
You are here forever.

>>10156288

I guess I've won

>>10158441
I allready sold most anon, still a lot of profit so dont worry. Im wating to pick up some new bags but im gonna let the market bleed to death first. I got still some coins invested so even if suddenly it x100 (no not gonna happen you deluded linkies) im still somewhat invested. But this is all whisfull thinking, if you think logical you just know that this bullshit bullrun like last year is not gonna happen again without a MAJOR flood of normies and boomers like me who start investing.

>>10158499
what coin did that spike?

>>10156288
from $70k to $20k
breddy good :DDDDD

Fuck this market

I already made back my initial by selling the mining hardware at the peak so this is whatever.

Got in with $200 in 2016. Still way ahead.

>>10156300
if that's justed for you... my Jan peak is 120k$ and my actual portfolio is not even 10k$, haven't sold a single coin.

>>10156605
confirmed retard
sorry man, better get out asap
i'm doing you a favour here
even joe boomer who bought btc at 20k and ether at 1.4k is'nt as justed as you

>>10156644
thanks mah nigga
Now I don't have to check my blockfolio

>>10158422
sorry to break the news, but since even you norman/autists on the idiot spectrum here figured out the halvening, it won't go like this

>>10156431
>>10156541
>>10156644
>>10156667
>>10156757

>>10156644
>100k FUN
strong performance today

started with $2000 in 2013. Lost a good chunk in scams and mtgox

Never cashed out anything. Could have been worse I guess

>>10160060
jesus christ. how have you managed to not kys?

>>10160083
I think I'd be more depressed if I started in 2013 with $2k and only ended up with $15k than if I had millions and lost it all like some of people ITT

>>10160090
balls of steel or no brain cells--take your pick
no pain no gain
memes etc.

>>10160096

The market was different back then. With smaller community and not enough scrutiny on scams. Pretty much lost 90% of btc holdings, hopefully will see some of them back once the mtgox civil rehabilitation is complete.

>>10160206
the newfags have no idea
t. 2013

>>10156757
HOLY KEK! One of the funniest responses I've ever seen

>>10156288
J-just hodl anon, you can't lose if you won't sell! R-right?

Should've cashed out in May

I really need to know what the portfolios look like of some of you guys that went from over a million to the 100ks or less

>Initial: $500
>ATH: $27k

Ain’t too mad. That $500 bet has yielded fun bucks. Got in on ETH @ $2.50, XLM @ .03, IOC @ .35 (dumped that shit when hit 125k sats), RLC @ .45

TENNO HEIKA BANZAI

>>10156431
I'm in the UK as well. Can only cash out 11k a year without massive taxes. Do you plan on selling at the top of the next bull back into btc or eth or cashing out then going back in on crypto on the dip?

Crypto is shit

>>10160634
I’m gona cash out 30k at 300k and 200k at 600k. I’ll deal with paying taxes if I hit 600k as I believe the government are clueless when it comes to taxing crypto

>>10160739
How are you going to manage that? I could do with some advice for when the time comes bro.

>>10156288
Blockfolio doesn't support CET so I can't show my most recent holdings.
But I'm at around 50% ATH, while the market is around 25-30% ATH so I'm pretty happy

>>10160634
Presumably you are unemployed, if not you should know that 11k is your tax free allowance before income (including any wages)

>>10156288
September is when we all get wealthy.
Oct, Nov, Dec and on into Jan will be remarkable.

>>10160771
im going to cash out in 5k increments for the 30k and if i hit 600k im going to go in to speak to my bank and a tax lawyer about withdrawing 200k.
Also HSBC is the best bank to go with as they are renowned for being a money laundering friendly bank and dont report much to the HMRC.

initial $250
ath $35k
atm well $1600
t.utter brainlet

>>10160824
Thanks for the advice

i got justed good family mem was like ya cmon cmon you need to get into this and as soon as i say that fucking vid with mex guy going HEY HEY HEEEY i was like fuck im gonna get scammed

so now im sitting on 2kBCC

anyone wanna buy some for a good price

hahahahaha........

I'm dead inside. Went all in in an ICO with a working product that's about to be released. 50% loss up until this point

>>10161489
Technically 100% loss since it's not listed yet on any exchange. The more I type the more hope I lose. Either I make it or I die during the next global economic collapse.

>>10160836
initial 500, ATH 27k now about 5-6k I can't im being fucked on my long why am I so bad at this ?

>>10156288
H-hold me senpi's

>>10156749
Delta let's you use 2 apis for free

Anyone else not exactly sure what their ATH was and just round down so their current level of JUST doesn't hurt quite as much?

I think mine was 230k but since I'm not sure and the moment was so ephemeral (some shitcoins on etherdelta) I just pretend it was 200k. 37k right now, pulled nothing out.

>>10160824
Thanks for this

Fell for the HODL meme.

>COSS
>REQ

>>10156288
yea something like that
>from $420k to fucking $40k
>than's greedy bearfags, BTC futures and bitmex - FUCK ALL OF YOU FAGGOTS

>>10158300
I too fell for the HODL meme and could have payed off my house, car and credit cards. But to say we will never see this again, who knows... It could take years, it could take months, but we might see the tech gain some traction, just like we did with the dot com bubble.

>>10156611
>In kinda worried that there are too many people in are position that are going to sell if it gets close to jan prices which will prevent anything from actually reaching jan prices.
first off, january prices are never happening again. the normie crowd that pushed it there got burned bad. most lost everything and ALL of them are completely disillusioned with crypto

second of all, you are absolutely correct about the bagholder syndrome. any time crypto gets even CLOSE to where it was, you will get bagholders dumping.

the only hope is that maybe in a couple years, kids who didnt get burned will want in. but even then, they probably wont have any real money.

theres also the matter of the global economy being in an obvious slowdown. i know you all like to LARP that crypto is unaffected by these thing, but it is obviously not

TL;DR
good fucking luck

>>10162526
people said this shit literally every other year since 2011
fuck i hate you stupid fucks
this site is overrun with you street shitting losers

>>10162540
2011 wasnt mainstream
this was. and the mainstream got absolutely obliterated. the market sentiment of crypto is evaporating every single day. the only reason any of you faggots hold onto these things is for the possibility that they will increase in value. as more and more people give up on this prospect, more will cash out, and liquidity will continue to dry up.

you watched a literal meme bubblegraph form right before your very eyes, and were too stupid to cash out. dont worry, it wont happen again.

>>10162601
>you watched a literal meme bubblegraph form right before your very eyes, and were too stupid to cash out. dont worry, it wont happen again.
just... fucking kill yourself
for the good of us all
you weren't even around this scene in 2011 you unintelligent little shitskin

>>10156757
kekius maximus

>>10162601
The capital entering cryptocurrencies is very small, even hedge funds betting on crypto only have 2 to 5% of their capital invested in it... So no, this is not mainstream

>>10162617
youre missing the point nigger
these kinds of bubble formations happen for a reason. they are a direct chart of human psychology. when they start to go straight up, its a mass rush of new money flowing in. the reason this one was so much larger than the last few, was because normies who had never even heard of it were dumping their retirements and 401ks into it. anyone with any money at all was dumping everything they had (including borrowed money) into it at the same time. FOMO.

the point is, this level of FOMO will not be possible again without an entire new batch of normies who havent had their faith in the stability of crypto completely shattered. not to mention those normies have to come from developed countries with strong currencies, where the layman actually HAS disposable income. asia is already in it. burgers and yuropoors got burned. who exactly do you think is going to be the greater fool n this instance?

go kvetch more about shitskins you hopeless little faggot, its still not going to 20k ever again. it simply cannot, nor would the banks who now completely control it (with both volume AND futures), even allow something like that to happen again.

you made the mistake of trying to call the top. this is the hardest thing to do in trading. you missed it. and your stubbornness and arrogance has led you here.

>>10162635
by mainstream i was referring to joe schmoe and his wifes 401k who bought in in december

>>10162754
hahaha
they said the same shit every other year just as you are now
you are stupid, you are not special, you are a fucking moron, a rube, and proving it to every single person here who has been here for more than a few years
tl;dr: kill yourself
btw nice essay faggot

>>10156288
at a zero to these numbers and you are on my level (but still under 200k)

IRON HANDS! ri-right ;____;?

>>10162754
There weren't that many Joes buying in December, I do agree that there was some FOMO, but I invite you to go to a shopping mall and ask what cryptocurrencies are, 95% of the people won't know what it is or think it is a scam or imaginary money (the irony). The real FOMO will begin when you see adverts on tv, celebrities sponsoring left and right, most hedge funds saying to invest in crypto and traditional traders saying it's a good investment.

You might think, that is unlikely to happen, but I do believe that human behavior tends to favor low effort / big reward and crypto is kinda seen as a get rich quick scheme (not that far from reality at this speculative point)

>>10162802
> you are stupid, you are not special, you are a fucking moron, a rube, and proving it to every single person here who has been here for more than a few years
tl;dr: kill yourself

Ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.

>>10156885
from which 50% are gone for taxes

Fuck taxes didn't made me cash-out since after 1 year hodl it is tax free.
Would have made way more money with paying 50%
Hopefully I will have way more hodling all the way tot he next bullrun.

0 risk
all the gains, fuck taxes on crypto (other taxes are fine)

I feel dead inside

>>10162858
lmao
jesus christ, you people just continue to embarrass yourselves
protip: an insult is not an ad hominem
ad hom means that the attack on your character is a cornerstone of the argument being made
i.e. it's being used for a purportedly logical assertion
here's an example: you are wrong, and you are also a fucking retard
you are genuinely unintelligent
take your wikiphd back to le reddit you fuckin retard
see how that works?

>>10162754
3% are into crypto, 30% are thinking to get into crypto

I can see it around my personal field too.
EVERYONE heard about it but nearly no one has invested in it.
Just some close friends, all other people had no idea how.
Now it is getting so normie friendly, 20k will look like a joke soon.

> t. loss coping hoping to see his ath again to cash out (this time for sure!!!! lol)

>>10162877
You did not try to counter argument logically, you basically insulted to make your argument more valid... That's the definition of ad-hominem

But I'm out, you are a very emotional being.

>>10162939
>insult someone
>fucking retard cites definition of ad hom, misusing it and demonstrating that he is a moron
wow you are Very Smart! wow! :)

I still don't believe we've even remotely reached mainstream. Sure, some normies bought in over the last year, compared to no normie involvement up to that point. Most people have heard of bitcoin in the news, but very few people are invested in it. I grew up in the heart of silicon valley and none of my family understands crypto and I'm only aware of one person I've ever met who has bought any cryptocurrency.

>>10162877
Also:
> you are wrong, and you are also a fucking retard, you are genuinely unintelligent

Is an ad-hominem argument since you don't say why I'm wrong, you are just trying to convince your argument is better by insulting me.

>>10162961
you are legitimately stupid
I mean you genuinely have a low IQ
again, an insult is not an 'ad hominem'
stop bandying around terms that you don't understand you absolute idiot

>>10162967
An insult is ad-hominem if it is used to make a counter argument without some sort of proof of logic, saying "you are wrong" for the sake of winning an argument is not a proper way to expose your point of view, therefore it's an unfounded counter argument with insults to the character, therefore it is ad-hominem.

>>10162987
>>10162961
also
>bunch of baseless shit and generalizations
>get a tepid response of at least the same quality, plus some insults to boot (because this is not a formal debate, it is 4chan, you stupid fuck)
>hurrrr muh cold calculating logic look I read about ad hominems once and took (failed?) philosophy 101 d-don't insult me you d-dummy...!

>>10162987
>therefore it's an unfounded counter argument with insults to the character
holy shit even this is wrong

an ad hom is not an insult lmao

The attack on your character has to serve as the basis of the argument for it to meet the definition of that logical fallacy

you are FUCKING STUPID

>>10163003
btw, check what I did there
>pointed out why you were wrong
>also called you fucking stupid in the same post
m-muh ad hom
b-b-but you didn't point out why i was wrong in the manner of a formal debate above AND you insulted me :'(

>>10162937
yeah and pretty much everyone knows, or can learn, about the stock market. Most people still don't own stocks. Crypto is by definition hard for the general folk. Look at computers, they only started gaining general traction when the smartphone became popular, only nerds used them before that.
Crypto is not dumbed down enough yet and probably never will

>>10162991
Our generalizations are kinda based on some sort of experience, I can say I tried to ask a lot of people what blockchain and cryptocurrencies are, and the majority fails to really explain or don't really know what it is. Saying it is mainstream when almost everyone doesn't understand the concept is the antithesis of the mainstream idea. Facebook is mainstream, television is mainstream, cryptocurrencies are not.

>>10163003
Ad-hominem can be considered an insult by the receptor of the message. So yes an ad-hominem argument might have insulting content.

No you didn't point out where we were wrong, you are basically spewing sentimental bullshit

>>10163060
>Ad-hominem can be considered an insult by the receptor of the message. So yes an ad-hominem argument might have insulting content.
wow you are retarded
no, it specifically has to be used as the basis for an assertion for it to be a fucking logical fallacy
I'm done trying to school you

just stick to Portuguese, Ronaldinho

>>10163013
tons of <30 techies are into crypto who are helping friends and family members (like me)
You don't see grandpa's bringing people into stocks.
Please stop comparing stocks with crypto for once ffs.

Yeah you have some shorts open, nice. You will lose sone enough.

>>10162939
>I'm out
>comes back 2 minutes later and continues with his gay shit
fuck off retardo

>>10163075
> no, it specifically has to be used as the basis for an assertion for it to be a fucking logical fallacy
That's what you are basically doing

>>10163083
This is entertaining

>>10163078
>who are helping friends and family members
helping them lose money?
>You don't see grandpa's bringing people into stocks
sorry that you were raised by the financial illiterate

>>10163102
:)

>>10163101
>basically
No
you are fucking stupid

>>10163116
Enlightening

>>10163157
>>10163075
>debating the meaning of the term and its appropriate use
>counters with "w-well I might feel insulted"
You have a very high opinion of yourself despite the fact that you are truly mediocre. At least I can admit that I'm just a guy, but no, you—you're an intellectual

whoops, is that more ad hom? :^)

>>10163167
The definition of it is "insult of the character" so yeah, you kinda didn't give any logical explanation for your thoughts (on the original topic) and based your argument validation on insult. I can do this all day like I said this is entertaining.

>>10156757
Lmfao is this guy fucking serious???
In the 14 months i've been browsing this board i've literally never laughed at a post as much as I have this one.

>>10163659
Be patient, you're gonna make it they said

i uninstalled blockfolio to make hodling easier

120k ATH I want to throw up

>>10164479
Yeah I hit 125 and have 39k right now and live a very impoverished life.

Feels bad.

>>10156300
Heh.... over 200k at peak, down to 35k. Thanks Req Link Neo Omg

>>10156288
This is close to my portfolio History.
Dropped from 90k go 26k. Fit alot Off my Money back by buying smartlands.
SLT went from 3xlm to. 4$. Check it out. Easy Profit to get back to Business.

>>10164497
No sense in us selling now. Not much would change. We just got to get by and hopefully in 2 years we'll make it.

>>10156288
The beginning steep upward slope is when I got my new phone

Thank you Tether!!

>>10164479
Same as mine, but multiply the values by 10. Hopefully that makes you feel better a bit.

>>10165469
1.2 million is my cash out number. you must be hella rich already im poor af