/biz/ - Business & Finance

first for TSLA shorts a shit

odd choice of pic

2 minute until futures explode upwards like a fierce whirlwind

>>10111483
>boomer stocks
kek

FUTURES OPEN BOYS

>>10111580
where can I see futures on SPY with tradingview (free version)? does it have a specific ticker?

>>10111637
spx500us

>can't trade options without experience trading options
>can't get experience without trading options
What is robinhood thinking

>yfw you spend the last few minutes of life playing dress up with a crazy guy
Kek what a way to go me hope whoever murders me does something as silly

You know she was garroted so hard it almost beheaded her! Ouch!

>that pic
wtf

>>10111689
I've literally never made a trade (stocks or options) on Robinhood or any other broker (other than crypto exchanges) and I'm approved for Robinhood options.

>>10111689
paper trading, especially for brainlet like you.
unironically please papertrade first at least 3 months with an instrument you do not have previous experience with.

>>10111637
ES_F
Es1!

Bears a shit. A SHIT!

so what's the mood for tomorrow

>>10111695
its a cute outfit though, I see where he was going!

>>10111665
thank you nikkei

>>10111695

>>10111734
I got direct advice from EKG! I feel honored :)
ps. I am so glad your operation went well, I was very worried about you. You sound to be in good mood, I am happy for you. good luck!
t.big fan of kneepads

>>10111744

Canada hit US with more tariffs.

red day

Bullish cross rejected crash inc

>>10111745
There was supposedly a red wig somewhere too, that's why she made her shave
The guy had taste

>>10111797
Y-ou t-ooo

>>10111848
Omg was blushing so furious forgot pic
>.<

>>10111846
Yay tariffs

>>10111890
>>10111846
can we just put trump on a ship and send him away napoleon style yet

I disapprove of picture choice on the Lord's day. Sad. I just got banned from a Christian server because I posted Jude 1:7, stupid homosexuals

GBR green tomorrow, r-right? It's 69% of my portfolio, the rest is cash

>>10111689
That's why you lie, silly

>>10111910

It doesn't hurt to dream

>>10111910
Nope he's here to stay. Unfortunately he's not a big entertainment factor anymore but surely he can make a few more trashfires for us to watch next election. Then he can go.

>>10111735
Prepping the bear.

crude gap down, equities set for big red on open

all according to plan, let me keep my fingers crossed everything holds till tomorrow morning

>>10112011
>just bought hard into DNR
pls no

>>10111864
green day
Bears cant win for 100 years

>>10112037
You and a bunch of other Anons
Good luck

>>10111483
>Get away from me, you smelly NEET!

Reminder to hail Lord Trump today and he will boost the sp500 to 3000
Reminder that bearfags are commie dirt

How long before the stock market becomes a dog? I don't want to withdraw my money too soon.

>>10112116
SPY will fall to 270 and hold for 3 days before moving back up 280

>>10111864
What is that memeline you circled and labelled rejected?

Also my cat died of leukemia so I'm rooting for you and your ass reboning. Hope you wont need those absurdly strong painkillers later

I invested in a weed company in Canada. Although it has been going down a little recently due to legalisation being postponed I feel like it's a good bet with legalisation coming. This market can only grow.

>>10112175
I envy you comfy, so simple in the mind
But the SP is mooning this week, theres no doubt about that

Stupid fucking permabull meme girl poster plaguing our threads

>>10111506
>TSLA
my nigga

>>10112229
Pic related is my state of mind constantly

>>10112254
to the copters you go

>>10112313
>>10111506
What is the thesis behind TSLA cheerleaders? Do you actually believe in the company or are you just riding the hype train and looking to dump after the bump?

This picture does not give me confidence in their product or business...

>>10112229
>>10112328
What do you think of my memeline predictions? I think I'm a day late in predictions, but it still might work out.
I want to hit over 50% accuracy

>>10112370
the point is that Tesla will grow and grow and grow and grow. As a result the MC will grow too

also, TSLA shorters are literally retarded

>>10112382
why not? lower initial setup cost, less permits needed, and at the end of the day the cars are being built. Investors should be happy about the decision to use Sprung facilities

>>10112385
I dont follow most of these but
KO terrible entry
VZ terrible entry
LUV terrible

I dont really know what your doing, what are you doing
JPM good
IBM bad

JNJ good, wow 121 again
How lucky they make the price so low

I love you guys.
You make me envious with how greedy you are.
However the fear will set in like a bunch of gypsies trying to frisk you of coins.
Where will you run next?
Into the bear's maw.
Crunch Crunch.
Delicious bulls.

>>10111708
Sad atory if you know the pic

>>10112323
I miss Katrina desu. We got rektd by Rita a month later. Ike was the best though cause a bunch of rich gags and whit trash got washed away. Harvey fucking sucked.

>>10112485
story?

>>10112414
I don't actually believe any of the predictions, I'm using memelines from robintrack operating under the theory that when robinhood users exceed relative price, the stock tanks and vice versa
I'm just curious how accurate it is

>>10112406
>it's just going to keep growing XD
This is who is making money in this market. Jesus fucking Christ. Tech puts and Vix calls are basically money in the bank at this point.

>>10112493
Yes

>>10112487
At this point are you just used to total destruction being a yearly thing?

>>10112493
Nerve gas

>>10112520
No it’s roughly every 5 years. Can’t wait for 2023

>>10112513
what is the story anon

>>10112503
Uvxy calls? Do I just load up on 3 month calls during low IV and then sell during a spike?

>>10112493
>>10112513
>>10112540
Iirc she was absucted by a serial killer. He made her put on that dress and heels and took polaroids of her. She was killed right after this was taken.

>>10112503
but it is going to keep growing. Model Y, Roadster 2, semi, battery contracts, China factory, Europe factory, giga 40%->100%, pickup truck, are all on the docket for Tesla.

So when do you think the IBM crash will be? I mean they wasted their investment in the 10nm so they have to restart that or at least rework it while AMD keeps chugging along.

>>10112561
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Ben_Rhoades

>>10112540
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Ben_Rhoades

>>10112596
>>10112597
Hivemind

>>10112568
>implying the can make the things they already have on a consistent basis
I seriously think Elon is among us hyping his cars

>>10112543
Prefer regular VIX for calls but that works too if you think its coming sooner rather than later. VIX futures seem to think it will happen sometime next year.

>>10112568
These are the fucking retards that are making money...

The model Y and roadster will not be produced for years, same with the pickup. They will cost double what a regular car costs.
The Semi cannot work. Too much power. There would have to be a massive breakthrough in battery technology.
The company has lost hundreds of millions of dollars every quarter.
The company is under mountains of debt and will probably need tor raise money again before the end of the year to stay solvent. If they do borrow money, it will be at junk bond rates.

>>10112568

>keep growing

If by “growing” you mean “continue to accelerate their financial losses”, you’re probably right.

>>10112686
>>10112665
charts don't mean shit, the whole point of investing is to 'invest'. Tesla has a 30+ year plan with billion+ dollar projects in the pipeline. I trust in Elon to deliver on those plans.

How long will it take for people to release that companies aren't just numbers on a page?

>>10112771
Oh, a cultist. Are you a stem undergrad/BS? Or just someone who grew up around a lot of technology but doesn't really know anything about it so now it takes the place of religion in your life? Trying to get a profile so I can better predict this stock in the future.

>>10112834
I own zero public securities at the moment. Darn millennials, am I right? imo TSLA will be 400 eoy, at least.

>>10112714
but they got tents nigga

>>10112916
sheit I forgot about the tents, >>10112771
is right.
Also, in the next month, they are scheduled to produce 5 bathroom tents for their workers

From: Elon Musk

To: Everybody

Subj. 7000

Jul. 1, 12:37 PM

We did it!! What an incredible job by an amazing team. Couldn’t be more proud to work with you. It is an honor.

The level of dedication and creativity was mind-blowing. We either found a way or, by will and inventiveness, created entirely new solutions that were thought impossible.

Intense in tents. Transporting entire production lines across the world in massive cargo planes. Whatever. It worked.

Not only did we factory gate over 5000 Model 3’s, but we also achieved the S & X production target for a combined 7000 vehicle week!

What’s more, with the widespread productivity gains throughout Tesla and the new production lines spooling up, we are on track to reach 6k/week for Model 3 next month.

I think we just became a real car company …

Thank you for your hard work and dedication,

Elon

>>10112944
>Whatever. It worked.
i hope he dates this chick next

>>10112977
Grimes x musk eternal

All I know is I live right next to a tesla charging station, and it's always full, and I'm seeing them more and more often.

The cars are at least getting on the road.

>>10112990
I see a crapton of them around Denver

>>10112986
imagine if your boss dated a grimy bitch whose name was Grimes and built cars by hand in a tent

>>10112771

>companies aren't just numbers on a page

But they kind of are, at least if you own them. The only reason to own equity is to expect a return on investment. That’s hard to envision for a company that’s $10B in debt, and losing $1B to $2B per year. A lot of that debt is coming due in the next 2-3 years. It will need to be refinanced because Tesla has no cash. Interest rates are going up, and Tesla’s credit rating is terrible.

The company is teetering on the precipice, and Musk knows it. That’s why he wouldn’t take questions from analysts on the last quarterly conference call.

>>10113035
the main argument for Tesla is the fact that it's effectively backed by the government so it will never be allowed to lose

>>10112771
There are different types of investing you retard. You can hodl for years and years hoping the company grows, or you can trade smaller and realize smaller profits more often.

>>10111549

Home ownership should be twice as high as buying a vehicle, then family after that and the rest of it.

>>10111763
EPIC

Hey burgers if you wanna pump up CGC and CRON real good tomorrow while leaf markets are closed that'd be swell.

>SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I wonder if any of my stocks are gonna stop out tomorrow, I have a bad feeling about next week...

>>10113102
>Canopy Growth Corporation ("Canopy Growth" or the "Company") (TSX: WEED) (NYSE: CGC) is pleased to announce that it has completed an agreement with the Manitoba Liquor and Lotteries Corporation ("MBLL") to supply the province with high quality cannabis product
moon imminent

>>10113132
B-believe in the Golden Bull™, friend! BELIEVE IT.

Anyone know stuff about sub prime auto loan market and how it works? How dependent is it on selling repossessed used vehicles?

Guys I have been out of the market since Feb sitting in liquid. When should I go back in?

>>10113240
get in the big tent with TSLA

>>10113270

>>10113289
look at that picture and tell me you don't trust Musk's judgement

>>10113297
I really want to think she's cute. I'm trying hard. But I just can't do it

>>10113297
I look at that and it physically pains me.

>>10113297
Let me guess, you think Steve Jobs is a grand innovator and technological genius?

>>10113326
She's got classic BPD face.

>>10113467
How deep is Musk in the BPD right now? How soon does he start submarines instead of rockets?

>>10113481
https://gettinbetter.com/dance.html

Explains everything about Musk's personality and his relationships. He is psychologically programmed to over-promise and under-deliver.

musk will be the world's first trillionare

>>10113151
>moon imminent

Nah. That's your garden variety provincial supply deal. It isn't exclusive and is not a catalyst for a major pump. Supply deals were more fall 2017 era pump news. Not so much anymore.

>>10113550

2720 is lava ! This about 2 dump hard

>>10112198
LMA & 55MA
Typically when they cross it good indicators of trend reversal!


>>10112175
Imo too many people bought @ 280 last time around w/o justifying it with price action from 271-279
They are gonna be bagholding until the pump to 3000

can't take another day of wagecuckery how to retire on 50k?

>>10113607
All in on GBR tomorrow

>>10113607
if you want to live off of $1.5k per year, you can retire.

>>10112073
already won!
Capitulation that can't ignore trade tensions setting in
2008 buyers taking profits
Boomers retirement and not want hold stocks with crazy prez
Institutional money buying SPY shorts

Bear bear bear bear bear bear bear bear

>>10112175
Here is chart
This me favorite chart ever make because truth undeniably

280 BAG HOLDERS 4 LYFE!!!
soo many people bought 280
500 million dollas

>>10111549
Tell me again how well Buttcoin is doing

>>10112198
Sorry about you kitty :(
Thank you for good wish too !

>>10111509

Shhh, it'll be green, trust me. No no, don't worry about anything, it'll all be okay, you won't get hurt.

>>10113642

why

>>10113763
holy shit.. really? please tell me you are just trolling

>>10112198
Really sorry about your kitty desu, cats are the best

>>10113763
>>10113829
>not holding GBR
>in 2018
It's like you want to be poor forever

>>10113654
Can't really argue with this so I'm just going to go ahead and say your charts look gay as fuck.

How are futures looking boys?

This fib line stuff is fucking spooky, It doesn't predict direction at all but for some reason this shit certainly shows resistance and support very well.

The NQ futures just did a move to the 100% line perfectly after pinging around a bit between the other pivots.

What kind of TA do people use to screen for plays? I've been reading some of the John Carter books and he does a good job at explaining his methods, also the mentality of trading successfully. Who else do you goys follow.

>>10112686
i saw that in one of the threads that was archived. wtf is that all about?

>>10114092
;_;
Well you will be happy 2 hear accidentally deleted that chart layout a second ago

Sucks because it was favorite one

>>10114177
Me trust & follow NO ONE!!!
Me have no masters because it was apparently from very beginning an already the best

>>10113467
>Let me guess, you think Steve Jobs is a grand innovator and technological genius?
did he fuck grimy sluts too?

friendly reminder: if you can't see that a dump is imminent you deserve to lose money

Oh fuck I need to buy puts RIGHT THE FUCK NOW but MARKET IS CLOSED AGHHHH

>>10114154
US futures up slightly
Asian markets down slightly

>>10113654
it go up because we have new zoomers prep for retirement

reeeeeeee why is silver going down again i was supposed to dump bags tommrow morning

>>10114329
>>10114329
Zoomers will get full employment because every EV will be hand built in jerry-rigged tents.

>>10112714
>that pic
>literally never had a positive EPS in their entire history as a publicly traded security.
what an absolute fucking joke of a company

like, could you even imagine ANY other company that could lose over $4 EPS on two back to back quarters w out being delisted? let alone one that loses this much money WHILE being subsidized by the govt (in fact, this might explain it. were seeing the govt go thru the sunken cost fallacy). this is gonna have the most spectacular carnage ever. i cannot wait to see all the redditors who will be sitting there wondering
>why?
>how?
>how could you do this to us elon?

>>10114358
>instead of 401k, your money will be used to directly pump the tesla stock
Guess I should buy soon

>>10114394
>t. grimes ex-bf

>tfw you read about the disposition effect and realize you've been doing exactly what it says
I am a shitty trader and investor

as expected, Large specs buying the Sp

>>10114292
Yeah, his wife. Who he left all his money to. She didn't even wait 6 months before shacking up with another guy.

>>10114450
the market will never go down, they said

>>10113921
lol
dont all in on it when its up this much
thats even more retarded than the kids and their TSLA fantasies

why can't I find any ticker info on the HKSE or HSI if by all means it should be open right now

>>10114494
its not open today

The problem with musk is he's an inventor not a business man. He sees something and wants to build it even if it won't give him a profit. It's no wonder their in debt, how much cash did they get from their rockets so far? Honestly he's probably helping the government with some shady shit so they give him money through subsidies. What it is who knows but even if the government is retarded they're always retarded in a way they think will help them.

hooooly fuck look at china futures unironically crashing. global recession next year easily

>>10114541
>The problem with musk is he's an inventor
thats the craziest part.
hes not even that either.
hes a literal ideasguy. a big picture guy.
its ridiculous, the blindness these folks have to the cliff theyre sitting on

>>10114541
>The problem with musk is he's an inventor not a business man
he should invent a bag to put over the head of this stank ass bitch lmao

gamble you're my favorite poster get out of iq now love of god. pls. don't look back in six months and wish you had

>>10114565

SON OF A FUCKING BITCH

>>10114571
Is that a fucking neck beard? Does elon fucking musk have a neck beard?

>>10114622

Yes

>>10114565
how do you view china futures? IS there a ticker?

>>10114571
>Be billionaire
>choose this

Got about $1300 to throw into a play this week, any calls or puts you could recommend bizbros?

>>10114565
>China A50
>-2.35%
God bless Donald Trump

>>10114654
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures

>>10114567
The Tesla team does all the work. Just like Jeff Bezos. Just like Bill Gates. The sum of all the parts make the whole. One boom and it bangs.
Not doubting that in the future, his visions may come true. This world is not emotionally prepared for these inventions. We still have ghetto people blasting Rae Sremmurd in Crown vic's with 26'' wheels. Asia is ready, but not the rest of the world.

>>10114660
At open tomorrow, buy GBR at market price. It'll be a better ride than any option could provide
Or puts on twitter

>>10114565
>rest of the world futures completely unphased
recession suuuuure

so did Trump kill China or something?

>>10114715
Have futures ever accurately predicted a recession/depression 6 months out or more?

>>10114680
it is too bad that hes such an incompetent twat. his ideas seem pretty cool (if not profitable), and for a big money guy, he seems like a pretty genuinely nice dude.

hes just one of the worst CEOs in the history of corporations. couldnt finance his way out of a cardboard box.

>>10114709
comfy stop telling people to FOMO into something thats up 150% in a day. you missed it. its ok. it may happen again, but what ur suggesting is arguably malicious.

unless, of course, that was the point

Can anyone explain these really weird sub penny stocks with super high volume?

Is this some weird money laundering or what? Look at BLUU for example. Plz no murder if this is true, just want to make money too.

>>10114724
of course not

>>10114719
no china is having the same problem with a widening credit spread between their major corporations, and their debt.

i told yall this was happening last weekend. china is headed for its own volpocolypse

>>10114729
lol
you dont buy something thats $0.0005/shr in 100 lots
what do you expect?

>>10114742
>headed

they've already dropped 20% fast as fuck and a couple more today

>>10114750
>https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures


I would have to buy like a million shares just to make it worth the commision, thats true. I guess that answers my question.

>>10114567
This, he's a 'rainmaker' - he finds the money and aligns the resources (i.e. talent), motivates them towards a goal and then tries to get as much publicity for the company as possible.
And the publicity angle he's damn good at - seriously, why would anyone take the advice on AI of the guy who invented paypal, a guy who dropped out after 2 days of his masters degree in battery engineering? Because he's a "gennnnius" - no! He's not a genius, but he's very good at presenting himself as one, as playing the "iron man" moniker that for some reason has been applied to this pseudo-autist nerd when it originally applied to a quirky charismatic Robert Downey Jnr interpretation of a comic book character.
Musk totally fits in the Steve Jobs, Richard Branson, Donald Trump "man as a brand" publicity machine genotype. And like Jobs he's managed to cultivate (or perhaps it was thrust onto him by a media looking for one) this image of being a tech genius, a 'visionary'.
But he's a rainmaker - that's all he is - he's not some kind of brilliant project manager who can dissect any problem and find solutions where experts couldn't, he's not a brilliant businessmen like Carlos Ghosn, Jeff Bezos, Louis Gerstner or whatever the name of the guy who runs Unilever is. He's a rainmaker, he's a money and publicity magnet who can get the ball rolling, but once the ball is rolling it's up to the teams he's assembled to actually keep it rolling.

>>10114762
its futures though. those can get carried away. i dont expect it to open down that much

>>10114767
dasitmane

>>10114775
yea hes just a celebrity. the fact that people see him as anything else is pretty mindblowing.

the difference is, hes also the CEO of a very large company. a company that is going to lose a lot of blind investors an unfathomable amount of money at some point in the future

>>10114784
It's 11:30 AM in China
Check "Shanghai Exchange Index" on Google, it's at a little over 1% down; the Plunge Protection Squad has commenced their orders to throw cash into the fire.

prediction time: how red is tomorrow/week/month?

-1, -5, -12

>>10114840

-3%
-10%
-4.43%

australian real estate data

blue is 2017-2018
grey is 16-17

You're welcome, America

>>10114840
-2.5%
-7%
-5.76%

more australian data

the lending has been pulled back this year though.

>>10114825
yea exactly
perhaps this is why we saw so much money leave the market on friday. it didnt go to the dollar. maybe they pulled some to go prop up their own market

>>10114840
I think DJIA doesn't have much room to fall, but NASDAQ does
DJIA:
-1%, -2%, +5%
NASDAQ:
-1%, -5%, -5%

>>10114805
it shows you that the one skill we can attribute to him is a knack for PR.

Anyone looking for an Australia real estate info

follow https://twitter.com/cmkusher?lang=en

STOP EXPLODING FIREWORKS OUTSIDE

>>10114858
>>10114876

these two are the most realistic with the first being my fav

>>10114892
i just dont understand why everyone seems to think hes some scientist or inventor or some shit. i hear this crap all the time from NPCs when im walking around. the dude made paypal. thats literally fucking it

>>10114866
>>10114885
>>10114899
good work anon
lets keep an eye on EWA to see if we start seeing any serious money getting pulled out of their market. im gonna be watching for the same thing that happened here on friday at close. stocks go down, so does their dollar

>>10114933
we can only hope the first is right

>>10114933
i could probably find a way to make that first on work pretty good

>>10114942
I'm too simple and new to do any complex play. My only strat right now is going to be shorting a bank if I think their market is fucked. I don't know the best or optimal move to do if China tanks and australia faces some pain from it.

Obviously would make more sense to short something chinese directly.

>>10114264
First attempt at remake chart

>Predictive triple itchy clouds
Me have become time, whittler of mountains

>>10114329
Traumatic by 2008 recession
Their retirement lies elsewhere

Has anyone looked into translate bio Inc? They just opened shares. They research cure for diseases caused by protein and gene deficiency. The company claims they will open at 12-14 per share and its barely at 12 now.

US stocks in red territory

>>10115010
futures*

>>10115010
>"When the crash is just right."

>>10114933
>>10114956
>>10114968

You guys realize -3% is a 700+ point drop and -10% is a 2400 pt drop?
-0.8%
+1%
+3%
is more likely.

>>10115035
just let us fantasize

>>10114726
if you don't understand why GBR is up and will continue to go up the next month...... KYS

>>10114709
lol you know this mighta got me back a year ago. im a bit smarter now.

missed the pump but whatever

>>10115035
>You guys realize -3% is a 700+ point drop and -10% is a 2400 pt drop?
Yes

>>10115035
and? this thing is poised for a breakdown

>>10114991
The SPY 300 comes closer and closer as the year ends
You will be left in the dust

>>10114942
>i just dont understand why everyone seems to think hes some scientist or inventor or some shit
It's not that hard to understand, it's "availability heuristics" - he constantly engages in publicity moves with projects that fit a utopian future image - space travel, EVs, superfast transport, solar power. To the layman who doesn't understand that these undertakings require vast teams of people with diverse and specialized skills operating together and that there is nothing particularly unique or revolutionary about the technologies themselves, seeing only Elon's face they think
>Elon Musk - Tech (maybe engineer genius)
Ask the man on the street to name a famous rocket scientists and they'll probably say as irrelevant names as Oppenheimer and Neil deGrasse Tyson, at which point you'd have an aneurysm trying to comprehend their sheer ignorance.

It's the same way people think Stephan Fry is a great intellectual when he's literally just a onoce-frigid, late-bloomer comedian trying to be as Oscar Wilde as he can.
or the way that people think Hitchcock and Tarantino are the greatest filmmakers like Tarkovsky, Bergman, Kubrick, Keaton, Renoir never existed. Or how people think Travis Barker is the best drummer...

>>10115061
your mom is poised for a breakdown

>>10114942
I mean, I'm guilty of it too, ask me who the best soccer player of all time is and I'll say "George Best" or Pele. I even had to google his name just to make sure I wasn't confusing him with the one-time bass player for the Beatles.

Can you see why people think Elon is some kind of scientist?

Is the market going to crash tomorrow? I was planning on going back in at some point

>>10114975
>I'm too simple and new to do any complex play
so what m8?
this is how you learn.
go draw lines and plan your entry and exit. decide what your trigger to execute the trade. monitor it like you would if you had real money down. look into the housing market and stay in touch and up to date on it. decide a point that you will exit the trade if youre wrong. all this shit will make you slick as fuck as a trader before you even place a trade.

tho the managing the emotions is the literal hard part.

but either way, id like to know if australias housing bubble pops. id also like to know if chinese wealth is being sucked out of aussie markets and whether it will pop their delicate bubble situation. keep an eye on it and teach yourself the skills you need to successfully trade

>My only strat right now is going to be shorting a bank if I think their market is fucked
banks will get pumped though. they are already too far down and people are getting worried. at any point in time the US treasury could decide to just throw money at it and make it dance if they wanted.

ive shorted banks this year desu. to much success (sorry nikkei). theyve only been going down for a while, so it was nice. but i wouldnt reccommend it to a self admitted inexperienced trader. and as a rule you shouldnt short the bottom. they will have to pump them somewhat, as people have started to get worried (i think its still far too early. were just in for some heavy vol for now imo)

>>10115035
lol i know
im just sayin i could probably make that work. would be a very fun month for me kek

>>10115116
yes you should re enter if you havent noticed half the market already crashed

ok futures bls stob. it was just a prank bro!

>>10115046
im just saying you could probably get a better entry at some point. this is absolute FOMO territory. thats not even debatable. guess well see tomorrow

>>10115035
I like this view.
The tariffs kick in on July 6th though, so I have difficulty imagining no escalation or a green week, but I can't imagine that much further to go... A resolution will probably be reached within the month.

Why the fuck is just the Dow getting kicked in the balls rn? Tech is still overpriced and it got the heaviest glare in the last white house trade war touch

>>10115125
the fact BAC hasnt already gone back to 2008 heights with Moynihan is ridiculous
Shits gonna go to 40 and beyond, Its retarded not to buy

I should have bought wells fargo they were the supreme winners of the test

>>10115157
>A resolution will probably be reached within the month.

No fuck that

We trade war now

>>10115131
I still feel like everything is due for a huge crash. I am scared to get back in

>>10115193
not my problem
Im buying every single day
Dont listen to faggot bears

>>10114942
>i just dont understand why everyone seems to think hes some scientist or inventor or some shit. i hear this crap all the time from NPCs when im walking around. the dude made paypal. thats literally fucking it
and what have you done?

>>10115193

realistic answer: you will probably have to wait for a bear market some time after the yield curve inverts, which could be some time soonish, but likely longer than you think

meme answer: WE WUZ KRASH

>>10115147
>im just saying you could probably get a better entry at some point. this is absolute FOMO territory. thats not even debatable. guess well see tomorrow
ok bro... keep thinking that...

>people say goodbulk ipo needs to merge with starbulk
>IPO shuts down
>starbulk stops their spo
>starbulk stock dropping
So what are the chances they'll announce a merger and people who listened to the sell will get screwed?

Futures are nosediving now

This is the big one this week

you guys should all check out LCI very strong company with alot of products and new products to come, very undervalued...........

>>10115115
but the guys a household name. people generally know what those people are innately.

but i guess hes just the guy who builds rockets and tubes and shit to the masses

>>10115091
>>10115131
lol

>>10115176
i really think its going to get pumped as well desu
i dont know what theyre waiting for, but im certain they will. ill probably FOMO back in at some point. i mean if the point is to compound divs, who the fuck cares about muh avg cost

>>10115217
as little as possible
zen as fug bruh

>>10115231
kek big5 chill. i got a bunch of em. still think there will be profit takers desu

>>10115193
If you have a lot of cash, you should probably just wait unless you want some short term action. Crash prices will likely be lower than what things are now. If you want to buy some dividend aristocrats that are currently cheap though theres nothing wrong with that.

>>10115256
>>10115193
>>10115141
I can't see it right now, what's happening with oil??

how do people judge China's economy if the stock market is even less important for China?

>>10115270
its going to the left
i dont know what to make of it. ive ever seen anything like it

>>10115267
I'm sitting on ~90 K liquid cash just waiting to go back in. What time frame are we looking at for the actual crash one month six months a year?

>>10115256
>to the masses
Bingo. He's associated himself with rockets and solar panels and electric cars. Therefore he's a scientist or inventor, just like Edison. Never mind Edison and Elon are more like P.T. Barnum than Nicolai Tesla... semiotic association works.

>>10115278
fuck. yeah if you're sitting on that cash best to wait. could be up to 2 years but probably sooner

Elon timed this wrong. A general market correction will not lure investors back to TSLA. We'll see how the week goes.

IQ is also done, just grab your puts at open.

>>10111483
Nice choice of pic you sick asshole. Shit, haven't thought of that story in a long time. Thx, hope you get a cold sore.

>>10115294
>>10115278

scratch that just looked at futures again we 1929 tomorrow

>>10115294
Should I still make my Roth IRA contribution? I don't want my yearly limits to go to waste if I skip a year

>>10115305

sauce

>>10115278
If anyone could tell you that, they'd be rich. But the last crash was in 2008 and they usually happen every 5-8 years. Were pretty overdue.

>>10115296
Tesla is a stock that defies gravity.

>>10115270
bro who the fuck cares what is happening with oil you cum gurgling faggot.. just make sure you make a new thread before the bell

>>10115314
yeah that's chump change hit the limit

nikkei getting assraped

>>10115314
Always. Roth IRA basically financial natural selection for poor people.

>>10115318
very wrong, the 2000 and 2008 crash were largest since 1930
we have about 100 years of bullrun ahead of us

>>10115329
What is so crazy about the futures? The Dow was down 94 points right now I know it's pre open but is that so crazy?

>>10115330
Is Nikkei generally the most skittish? I always see it making huge negative swings at any sense of fear.

>>10115336
>t. 25 yr old boomer who didn't lose 40% of his portfolio in 87.

>>10115347
Dont worry, I know all about 1987 too :)

>>10115314
You can make a Roth contribution into a money market fund.

So I just looked at the nasdaq 1 month candles over 15 years.... If this thing pops its going to get ugly.

>>10115339
because one time they will not go back up. and then it will get worse. and then worse. and you will have your buy opportunity. and the longer we go on like this, with this level of complacency, the more likely it is.

>>10115330
buy 19999
buy 20999
buy 21999

>>10115353
That is good to know. I thought if I didn't purchase a fund outside of the money market it wouldn't count. I'll just hold that 5500 in the money market for now then

>>10115272
ask a govt official
they post here time to time. see, china has that firewall thing so none of them can post here. but theyre ALWAYS watching. this is a very popular site in china. but all they can do is lurk.

the govt officials and corporate big guys (and computer geeks who run black market shit) do intl business, so they need it. so while the govt outlaws the rest of the internet, they break that rule constantly, every day, because they have to. pretty funny

>>10115342
the nikkei does literally the same thing every day almost. lately itll crash for no reason. japans economy is very overweight though so it makes sense

>>10115361
look at last month's candle on the s&p. if we go up from here i will be in disbelief

>>10115376
>>10115361
>First year traders

>>10115365
well I made my mind up to sit on the cash now thanks to you and others here.(thanks)

I guess I need to start researching how to know what the bottom is for whenever the market does fall out.

>>10115376
one mans crash is another mans oversold desu
thats just how the market works. maybe some things will blow off some steam a little, but i dont think were crashing yet m8. were in for higher vol. this week might be an excellent time to learn to hedge

>>10115353
No, you will need to deposit it into a money market account opened within a Roth IRA.

>>10115390
Yes that is what I did this evening. I must have worded that wrong

>>10115390
Fuck me. This was intended for >>10115371

>>10115383
i don't think we're going bear market tomorrow or next week or even month, though we could. but i think we're in for a big correction before that. the bear will likely be in a year or 2. that's baring any 1987s which you can't ever rule out entirely

>>10115296
why is IQ done ?

>>10115380
something tells me you already came to that conclusion

>>10115397
1987 was literally the same as february lol it was a bond spike
We didnt crash so its all good

>>10115402
Well your blind bullishness wasn't too convincing

>Muh 100 year bull market


I was prepared to buy tonight but I thought I should ask around

>>10115401
Because it's now the 25th most popular stock on robinhood, and that's the ultimate nail in the coffin

>>10115418
Its not blind though, ask anyone with 20+ years experience if you should pull out of the market now

>>10115430
I'm not asking if I should pull out now. If I was still in I wouldn't. I got out in February before the bulk of this volatility the question is should I go back in or not.

>>10115439
what are you buying? just indexes?

>>10115439
YES
You should get back in
I mean for god sakes look at General mills and JNJ they are basement bargain prices
The SP500 isnt just cylindrical you know, its going to go up

>>10115347
>implying
did you trade then? or was it just your holds that got fucked

ive always been interested in that crash

>>10115397
this >>10115410
1987 everything was just going straight upwards, then there was a bad week (similar to feb really), and it crashed after the weekend. there was no circuit breakers and the way early computers and stop losses worked, it all chained together. then the dudes on the floor had to somehow do CPR on the market, and bring it back to life, and everyones stoplosses that got sliced lost everything

the end

we literally cant go down like that anymore tho. the market will shut itself off

>>10115450
I held BABA, RTN, and a variety of sector ETFs.

Dubs or 8 and GBR goes up tomorrow morning

>>10115474
oh no

>>10114991
Shoot... these new charts suck

>>10115067
It's a long road to 3000

>>10115451
I won't lie to you both of those are extremely tempting.

>>10115439
there will probably be some vol this week with oil crashing at some point. its also a holiday week. or if ur super scared, buy after the next weekly candle, like on the closing bell friday. youll have all week to think about that candle. no rush

>>10115474
you are such a cum gurgling faggot i fucking swear to fucking god

>>10115067
SPY options will be fun as fuck if it gets there

>>10115494
i dont know how to understand monkey bars

also how do I invest in live cattle, shit is headed to veal pluto soon.

>>10115318
>overdue

>>10115377
>1 month candles
This.

>CSI300: -1.94%
>A50: -2.74%
Also, finally the NASDAQ is getting a nice slide going too.

>>10115422
solid reasoning

>>10115495
every non cyclical is on sale hardcore
Campbells soup
Pep
Kraft

Its time to buy these and live off passive income for rest of life

>>10115520
Big 5 why are you so hostile tonight? Are you texting your ex again?

would someone tell the market i was just memeing and i don't have enough cash yet for a crash?

>>10115527

Ok, its called COW or CATL i should have figured.

>>10115494
a short road to 3000
You will sitting at the small spec Mat

>>10115527
>i dont know how to understand monkey bars
its volume profile. instead of candles, the row of bars show buys and sells at those prices. the highlighted part is the most actively traded price range of the day. its useful for daytrading, and swing trading.

>also how do I invest in live cattle, shit is headed to veal pluto soon.
COWB
why is cattle mooning tho?

>>10115527
LE
for meat futures

>.> just look at the monkey bars as volume but sideways

>>10115558
Double bottom on multi YEAR lows

its now time to start putting in your first positions for the nikkei

>>10115539
i've drank alot and took alot of xannax.. doesn't excuse the fact that you are a faggot.. also i'm not big 5.. i'm just anon posting as anon.. on an anonymous frog posting forum

>>10115582
Also on Gin and xanax here
I wish to fight you psychically Big5
Lets go at it

>>10115576
i see that. i wish i could just trade futures on it. i guess i could buy some stock.
i got wheat though so my agricultural gains are all but secured kek

>>10115520
How in the fuck do I get into real estate?
Do you use a property manager?
Stocks are fucking easy to get into, but idk what to read to start learning about investing in real estate.
I heard the housing market is somewhat peaking right now, so I'm not planning to buy anything within the next year, but I want to be ready and know wtf to do when there are good deals

china -2.68%

>no brakes

>>10115582
>>10115586
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
Whoever wins gets RKG

>>10115582
>>10115586
ITSADUEL

>>10115586
i'm not big5 but ill beat your fucking anime loving ass in a heartbeat while comfy films.. then ill beat the fuck out of comfy easy as fuck!!

>>10115607
Sounds good to me as long as I can post it on youtube for views and subs

>>10115046
instead of killing myself will you tell me why its a buy right now, i cant find the news

>>10115607
Meet me at the 7/11 near disneyland I will Knock your teeth out and wear them as a necklace
Then we can get slurpies

How do I invest in this fight

>>10115586
>>10115582
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
pls don't die, senpai
I don't know SHIT about drugs

>>10114840
-30%|-50%|-90%

>Shanghai's lunch break ends in 6 minutes

>>10115597
what makes you think i know anything about real estate? is it because my mother and sister are real estate agents? my father is a general contractor? i was in construction 10+ years and both grand parents on both sides are landlords and i myself own and manage rental properties?? ... i mean.. what do you want to know??

i'll tell you this.. unless you are doing the work yourself it's not worth it unless you get a good return. Don't get a loan for a rental.. getting a loan for a flip would be ok if you are quick and cheap!.. seriously don't get a fucking loan on a rental property, dumbest fucking shit ever.. you will be a landlord for the bank and have nothing besides a huge headache for years...

>>10115598
and they say bye bye ms. HSI
drove muh chevy to the levy aaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa

>>10115619
if you live in so cal i am down to meet up sometime for lunch and chill.. real talk

>>10115647
lol I assume this will probably happen one day

smg chilies meetup when

>>10115647
>Living in commiefornia

>>10115655
i'm not kidding.. if you live in so cal lets get lunch sometime...

Red tomorrow. AMD will be 3x what the nasdaq posts if negative.

>>10115675
sure, I really need to use this chilies gift card, we can hit the bar and grilled cheese

Ive gone to strip clubs and casinos with people I met online

>>10115635
>don't get a loan on a rental
Thanks, I was planning exactly that.
I have a friend doing it right now, and from what he told me the math was checking out in my head -- I got 30k in stocks now, I could get a shit house for like 30k although I haven't actually checked, I'd imagine I'll have 100k to 150k by the time I do want to try this out.
Did you get a loan on a rental and are regretting it? Dump your experience with this shit. My parents aren't doing it, but I've got friends that are

>>10115600
Me want them both 2 beat me up
then b5g crush neck with calfs almost beheading me like girl in op pic
then ratsukun turns me corpse into doll

>>10115699
you will become a doll whether you like it or not

>>10115695
where do you live by? i'm in san bernardino county... we can meet somewhere between sometime on a dead day this week or next.. not even kidding.. i'm down for that

>>10115698
i didn't get a loan, i worked my teenage years and saved up alot of dough rent free then bought during the recession.. i didn't really know at the time the deals that i was getting or i would've been on it more. After i penciled out a few "opportunities" i decided it's not worth it to get a loan.. if you put 20k down and then 3 years later can make the payment due to some bullshit like a fire or something then you lose all your investment... not much liquidity there.. it's all about my experience with the problems that have come up and personal loans i've had to get in order to continue operations then there is evictions and shit.. honestly.. if you aren't buying a rental straight out with cash its not worth it to me unless you have a very low payment and your monthly return is extremely high.. one thing like a heater going out will wipe out your whole years worth of returns.. ask a local accountant how many times they see losses on rental properties get filed.. its unreal desu.. it really is..

>>10115699
how about you show proof of your gender first faggot

>>10115757
I live by la mirada now
the thing is, I lost my job 6 months ago and am I drunk weed addict, so I have a hard time driving anywhere but to the rite aid closest to my house

not really much of a go getter these days

>>10115699

>>10115757
my family owns lots of depreciating land in Hemet though

>>10115764
>the thing is, I lost my job 6 months ago and am I drunk weed addict, so I have a hard time driving anywhere but to the rite aid closest to my house
so basically you are like everyone else in the area... i'm cool with that... i'll buy you lunch

>>10115771
Hemet..... im so sorry bro.

>>10115698
It is very easy to get fucked if you do not know what you are doing. One of the guys my dad works with bought a condo in Miami to rent out but didn't do much homework:
> Pipes leaking
> Water damage
> Water damage in condo below
> Lien placed on condo until he pays for damages on unit below
> Oh and a recent rule makes it so you cannot rent out condos in this building

He was totally fucked. He luckily found someone as stupid as him that did even less homework to take it off of his hands.

RECOMMEND ME A GOOD PLATFORM FOR VIRTUAL TRADING, FUCK

>>10115782
>>10115771
hemet actually isn't that bad.. i live by there.. kinda.. and i hear alot about it picking up...


Anyone that is in so cal... one day we will all meet up and i'lll buy you all lunch.. i'm looking at most likely next week since this week has a holiday in the middle....

>>10115780
awesome, cant wait

>>10115782
yeah it fucking sucks
They lost all their money lol

>>10115802

no

>>10115802
Whaleclub is a good instant demo trade
never put money there though

>>10115787
>He was totally fucked. He luckily found someone as stupid as him that did even less homework to take it off of his hands.
Ah, beautiful, the greater fool theory is at play here. Yeah, this sounds fucking toxic.
I feel like I'd be best off buying up shit at the bottom (in cash), renting them out, and selling them off at peaks

>>10115757
>After i penciled out a few "opportunities" i decided it's not worth it to get a loan.. if you put 20k down and then 3 years later can make the payment due to some bullshit like a fire or something then you lose all your investment...
Well 20k down, fuck no.
I'm not planning to put half my net worth into a property that I'm just going to rent out.
I'd cap it at a place that I'd have enough cash to buy 2 or 3 of out right, then get a loan if I can get an APR of like 3% or less because I can on average get much higher returns than that
But the "fire or something" is why I'd cap it at something I can buy out right so that if shit does hit the fan, I can just pay the damn thing off.

>not much liquidity there.. it's all about my experience with the problems that have come up and personal loans i've had to get in order to continue operations then there is evictions and shit..
I'd think a property manager would handle evictions and shit for you. Those definitely don't sound easy or like I can just fucking kick it and chill.
My friend said he gets rent of about 1000 bucks a month and pays the property manager about 500 bucks.
>one thing like a heater going out will wipe out your whole years worth of returns.. ask a local accountant how many times they see losses on rental properties get filed.. its unreal desu.. it really is..
Repairs are something that I know would eat into profits and liquidity.
I'd imagine the property manager could handle repairs, but I'd obviously take the profit hit.
Again, if I did a loan, I'd keep it at something I could just pay off like 30k to 60k and have 150k tied up in stocks/bonds

>>10115802
>VIRTUAL TRADING
Fuck no, faget. Just put 500 bucks in Robinhood, mostly in an index like SPY and then a little on shit that catches your eye, and then inject more cash as you get the hang of it

cant wait for that new thread comfy

IQ looks like Chinas getting fucked up so wouldn't be surprised to see it dip to 28 but its kind of the stock of the next decade so I think its a 'tell your grandkids dip' on its way to 180 and beyond. BTFD

I likey Tesla but major doubts if it can do over 400, still so bearish.

closed silver shorts and entered the nikkei 21700

>>10115995
>but its kind of the stock of the next decade so I think its a 'tell your grandkids dip'
I admire your exhuberance. I will tell my grandkids, if only I were so, and to an irrational extent, then perhaps instead of paying for them to go college, I'd be living in a nice cardboard box.
Stay smol in both spec and cranium size, frendo

so much fear

Dow is gonna open down 400 at least

>>10116068
dailey reminder futures nasdaq was -3% around this time then closed the next day +1.5% only a few months ago

its a bear trap for europoors
obvious

>Shanghai: -2.16%
>CSI 300: -3.29%
>A50: -4.39%
Anybody else smell burnt rice?

>>10116068
Yeah, probably

>>10116115
>dailey reminder futures nasdaq was -3% around this time then closed the next day +1.5% only a few months ago
Daily reminder that you're a homo if you think this is a bull run and comparable to anything earlier this year than June 1st
WE TRADE WAR NOW

>>10116185
trade war is literally imposible
Based Drump will Pump
we 1950s again

>>10116115

This is different.

Someone make a new thread pls

>>10116241
I'll do it

>>10116241
NO
ITS NOT DIFFERENT

>>10116267

thanks

New thread for you night birds

>>10116300
>>10116300
>>10116300
>>10116300
>>10116300

>>10115918
>Just put 500 bucks in Robinhood

Not murican sadly