/biz/ - Business & Finance

Candidates:
>Malta
>Singapore
>Hong Kong
Any other?

>>10068879
United States of America

>>10068906
>get shot by niggers
No thanks I'd rather live

>>10068879
Malta: boring
Singapore: too many pajeets
Hong Kong: smells and is too humid

>>10068867
Venezuala

>>10068906
>that 30yo boomer who thinks USA is free
your taxes are too damn high

>>10068933
>Malta: boring
This is not necessarily bad though. they are close to Africa though so they will be getting lots of boats from there I imagine

well obviously you need to find a country with strong social benefits since your play money is useless in real life

>>10068952
Has a huge Islamic influence too

>>10068939
It's different in every state btw.

Interesting topic.

>>10068962
I'm not sure about that.
What's a better alternative then?
"Japan is great for crypto" is a meme
it has high as fuck taxes

Why is there no libertarian utopia that has no brown people or Muslims?

Maybe Switzerland?

>>10068982
is there a state with very low taxes on this stuff? don't say Puerto Rico

>>10068991
Honest answer: Singapore is amazing, go there of the 3

>>10069009
I need to Google if there is a way to "buy" your way into SG

>>10068867
whatever you do, only go to 1. world countries. Anything else is not worth it

>>10069051
Good point

>>10068867
Why not go live for a year or two wherever has no crypto tax. Then after cash out move to anywhere??

>>10068867
Costa Rica sounds good.


http://time.com/money/collection-post/3739465/best-places-retire-abroad/

>Portugal

The PTA has already deliberated on income taxation of the sale and purchase of cryptocurrencies in a previous tax ruling. According to this ruling, the Portuguese personal income taxation regime did not apply to the income derived from the sale of cryptocurrency, as no income category covers cryptocurrency gains, provided that the sale is not performed in the context of a business activity. Thus, there was no legal basis in Portugal for income taxation of cryptocurrency gains in those circumstances.

Why not take a year and browse likely candidates?

i heard asian girls go well with boomers like us

>>10068867
Argentina or Chile

>>10069261
And why did the 30 yo boomer meme begin like a week after I turned 30

>>10069272
Because the meme was originally about you.

>>10069253
yeah but only boomer asian "girls" that look like shit

Whats a good way to get on disability in the US? I'm fed up with trying so hard

>>10068879
Poland/Romania.
Romania is cheaper, but contains tons of gypsies.

>>10068879
Go Hong Kong, Panama, Portugal or Cyprus

>>10068952
That's not true really, but malta crypto taxes are not 0, at least not confirmed

Portugal is god tier

>>10068962
What? It's Roman Catholic as fuck

>>10068867
3 options

Manhattan
Malibu/Beverly Hills/Bel Air
London

The rest is pleb tier. The point is to make enough money to not have to live in some pile of shit.

>>10070541
>What? It's Roman Catholic as fuck
i think he means it was invaded a few times by the musselmen.maltese took it back tho. also, language is a little moslem influenced, for obvious reasons.

What do (you) think about Czech Republic?

>>10070054
Why?

>>10070634
They have an Amazon-like website that accepts crypto and and Institute of Cryptoanarchy. They also created Trezor. Based pro-crypto country.

>>10068879
>Malta

I work and live in Malta for 5 years now. I would say it's a big 'no no'

>>10068962
>Has a huge Islamic influence too

this is BS.. the only arabs you see here are Libyan oil barons and their rich offspring who come to Malta to fuck Russian prostitutes in nightclubs.

>>10068939
damn right freedom aint free

lol. Murica land of the free. Move to mid west or down south. you can live like a king with 60k fuck all the hawties and even kill some niggers for fun.

>>10069720
there are no laws regarding crypto in Malta.. the average Maltese has no clue what crypto currency is

(and literally half the population cannot read and write..they are illiterate)

However it's very difficult to as a foreigner open a bank account here (Unless you are a hsbc UK client, you can simply switch to from hsbc uk to hsbc malta)

I'm also pretty confident banks like Banif and bank of valetta want nothing to do with crypto payments/withdrawals.

Pic related. It's my balcony view (I live in Gozo)

>>10070828
>. I would say it's a big 'no no'
can you go into it a little bit more?

>>10068982
But Federal taxes are in effect no matter the state you live in

>>10068906
You're damn right.

>>10070950
people in general there are unreliable, you cannot count or trust on them at all.

Very low IQ people in general.

traffic is a chaos.. life in general is a chaos.

It's a big property bubble.. were rents and property prices tripled in the last 4 years.

and last but not least there is very little green or nature. It's all concrete, hotels etc.

>>10070579
>not have to live in some pile of shit.
>Deliberately move to LONDON

>>10071024

I live in Gozo myself (small island part of Malta)

good things: there is more nature/green than Malta main island. It's not so crowed and busy.

life in general is cheaper

bad things. People are all inbred (literally you see the same faces all day long.. and lot of people walking around with visible mental impairments )and even dumber than those in Malta.

in winter everything is closed as everything is based on tourism / summer season.

Costa Rica works for me

>>10068934

No thanks

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=904_1425380584

>>10071256

how to I embed a video lol

>>10068939

We’re subsidizing niggers who turn around and have tons of kids

>>10071256
newfag lol

>>10071183
Why do you have such low standards ?

CENTRAL AMERICA IS THE WORST . AMERICA IS 2ND AND SOUTH AMERICA IS #1

I LIVE THE LIFE SO TRUST ME I KNOW

Living next to a country like Honduras or Salvador . Stupid newb do some research........living next to those 2 ..........ISIS territory is safer.

URUGUAY

BOLIVIA

CHILE

ECUADOR

PERU

owning a gun is automatic 20 year prison sentence in most of those countries


Buy a MISS UNIVERSE (VENEZUELAN girls are selling themselves for $15) take her to a boring country like Uruguay or Peru and live the best life

Why do you have such low standards ? Research south america

You will never find girls that look this beautiful. $1000 to them is is like $1 million to girl in America. Every girl is leaving Venezuela to Peru Colombia and Ecuador. Working girls charge $10-$15 don't be stupid they will crawl at your feet if they know your american. A Mexican girl ? LOL don't waste my time ....... Find out how much a lawyer or doctor makes in Venezuela and then you will understand just how much better life is in South America.

>>10071292

actually the quite opposite lol
been shilling BTC since $400

>>10071432
and after 30 they all look like this

I live in a pretty poor neighborhood......no Lambos just a peaceful life.........when I walk outside I feel safe knowing cameras are always watching.........since implemented street crime went down 40% this

>>10071432
how much do they charge for a good old brapping session?

>>10071478

That's why Tom Brady has a wife from South America ? Adriana Lima ? Lol and you post a Mexican picture. I'm using stats not sure what your gripe is about

Aztecs and South America are two different nation's. Look up Gran Colombia and realize why that part of the world has the most beautiful women.

>>10071521
1 hour $15 for the best looking of the bunch. If you need an address I can provide. It's not in Venezuela , right now it's too dangerous but neighboring countries are a different story. From Colombia all the way down south, life is much better. And that's just the women .......beach life ........the food is dirt cheap and 1 million times better than burgers or tacos ......here is a shrimp plate got $2.60 .......central or north america will never come close

>>10070770
because people from places with shit weather greatly overestimate sunny weather, which is only actually true half the year at best. during winter you better be a crypto millionaire because portuniggers don't have any heating infrastructure at all, so you freeze inside your own house unless you pay out of your ass for a basic 1st world necessity.

The seafood is from the water to your plate. Never forzen. Burgers want to charge $50 for a similar dish and call it organic LOL

me and the missus will retire here in our hometown

>>10071576
But will they brap on my face?

>>10071548
perhaps for the same reason Jeb has a wife from S America.?

Trust me BIZ .......hydro made my trip possible and it's worth it. You just need to find a good hobby and not get caught up with so many beautiful women ...that's the hard part for me. Everytime I visit them I can't decide which one to make wifu. Beef stew $2

>>10070901
whats it like living in malta anon?
are you a local or foreigner that moved there?

>>10071632
Not Mexican ?

Why do Americans think Mexico is the same as SA ?

You still hodl BCC don't you ?


Next

>>10071606
$15 includes all the brap you want in your face........anal is extra $5. If you want to taker her home it's $40

>>10070901
Yeah but no laws is not equal to no taxes. I asked the tax authorities about it and they simply said they haven't decided how to tax it yet

>>10071666
What's the best South American country as a upper middle class white guy? Not american but scandinavian and got a thing for brap- i mean latinas.

>>10071389
>Buy a MISS UNIVERSE (VENEZUELAN girls are selling themselves for $15)
15/hour or what do you mean?

>>10071642
foreign. work in the online casino industry/

Well like mentioned life is very chaotic there. Not much is organized or reliable.

I can work from home most of the time though. that's nice.

the food is very good though (and cheap) that's a big plus.

A lot of foreign workers are leaving the last 2 years because of exploding rent prices. they can't afford it anymore.

properties that went for 300 euro per month 3 years ago, now go for 800+ euro per month

1 in 4 properties in Malta are vacant/abandoned.. Meanwhile the owners of places available easily ask 1000 euro per month for a simple nothing special student type of place.

>>10071676
So you can fuck her ass non stop for 1 hour for 20$?
And which country is this? I want to take a vacation

>>10071687
It's like asking what part of Mexico is worth visiting ......it's not an easy answer if it's your first time. But this is just like crytpo........you have to know how to research........look for small towns within the safe countries........right now 70% of Venezuelans are going to the only country with US currency.........google it google it. It's easy to find a peaceful life and to find the best girl for the best price you just need to ask around. Taxi drivers are pretty safe. Every taxi vehiclei is equipped with cameras that are tied in to the central police station. If NARCO Colombians are not your cup of tea then you might have to look further south

>>10068867
Ukraine
Thailand
Philippines
New Zealand

>>10071711
i think its a permanent thing

like djanago

>>10070770
Cheap, beautiful, great food and wine, no niggers etc

>>10072234
>great food
>no niggers
>cheap

>>10072846
Also drugs are legal unlike places like Singapore where pretty much anything fun has been outlawed.

>>10071432

miami here. they are cunts. stop coming here

Someone knows a good country to relocate to for day trading crypto?
I'm planning to relocate this year, but the options I figured out are all shit.

One option is to relocate to the Isle of Man and create a company there and employ myself so that I can grow my stack with 0% CIT and only take out what I need each month. But you will officialy need to live there atleast 183 days a year, however you can probably get around this by using ferrys or something.

Another option is to relocate to Malta or Cyprus (as a non dom) and form an offshore company in (Belize/IoM/Estonia) and trade through that construct.
However you will need to live 183 days a year in Malta or 60 days a year in Cyprus, and also rent an apartment for the whole year.
And the eu seems to crack down on offshore companies, so I'm not sure if this would work at all. (Estonian offshore company may work, but they want 4k€ for some fucking crypto tading license or some shit)

Some other options would be to move to belarus and live 183 days a year in the HTP with 0% PIT tax on crypto gains, romania with 1% CIT or bulgaria with 10% CIT/PIT.

>>10073516
You are right, they are all shit. Bulgaria has no CFC laws so I think you can operate some offshore company paying 0% tax. Panama is one option outside EU

Unironically Mexico if you stay out of the cartel areas

>>10074219
Thanks, yeah I though about Panama as well 10k$ to get a permanent tax residence and you only need to show up once every two years or so...

But about the CFC rules, I think the eu really is going to enforce them at some point. Some ATAD I or II shit is getting enforced the end of this year that may cause problems with offshore corps in tax havens. That's why I thought about the Estonian company with 0% CIT as long as you keep the money in the company it should work.

>>10074919
Yeah, could be they will enforce them in the future. Estonian company is actually a nice choice. But honestly I never understood how you get your personal crypto into your newly started company without having to pay taxes on it?

>>10069664
Poland has ridiculous laws/politics though. Also tough winters. I was researching it too but it's shit-tier I'm afraid.

>>10068867
In summer canada . Autumn italy spain portugal. Winter taiwan. Spring japan.

>>10070054
this I cannot argue

but still worlds most miss universe

south america

>>10074252
and still be surrounded by Aztecs versus Uruguay and Brazil no ty

next

>>10068867
unironic answer is New Zealand before the new government moves to tax capital gains

currently they have no capital gains tax so if you can find a way to move there you'll be set

>>10075129
I would bite the bullet and only put in crypto I already paid taxes for. It's fucked up, but chances are that you will have to proof every satoshi.
I will also think about Panama again, it's probably the simplest and also cheapest solution in the long run.

Netherlands 1.25% tax on capital but no capital gains tax. Basically they assume your capital gain is 5% and they tax this assumed gains fpr 25%. If your gains are bigger good for you no questions asked

>>10076016
Only if you invest, not if you day trade.

>>10068867
Switzerland

Italy. Preferably the countryside of Tuscany. Second option would be a Greek island.

>>10075402
thats a really good idea thanks bro

>>10070579
>London
>NYC
>not piles of shit
what the fuck?

>>10075402
moving around seasonally is the based choice

>>10068939
live in a white state then.

Summers in Newport, Rhode Island. Winters in Charleston, South Carolina.

>>10076995
If you have millions to spare. This is about the majority versus the minority and clearly biz is full of poor tards, SOUTH AMERICA is the clear winner, best weather women food and security if you choose the right state .

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gran_Colombia

Learn why

Yw

>>10074252
Venezuelan has the largest reserves , Colombia has the best coke, Tom Brady SOB had to snatch a Brazilian model, NOT ADRIANA LIMA, best food in the world thank you PERUvian Japanese Hybrids, keep driving south and Blondies with blue eyes for days. USA is a giant desert ......with a beach that had cold water. Europe and Asia might be nice but pricey and Miss universe candidates just can't compete......I want a face I can wake up to and smile

https://www.instagram.com/danielavelez__/

Remember you will never find so many girls at once that look this amazing and earn so little, make burger dollars and retire in a country with your prized possession . Just don't do it in central or north america. Regardless of how much you have ......you will be surrounded by trash

>>10075947
Kinda besides the point when (not if) they're literally going to do just that

>>10068879
More like South Korea

/biz/ told me the best country for early retirement is pattaya

>>10077116
Wait where the fuck is this

>>10068867
Sri Lanka, Greece or Montenegro

>>10069506
Get disability. Live in Thailand like a king

>>10076016
BS. This only counts for multi national billion dollar companies like Shell, Boeing, microsoft etc.

these companies have so much money and influence, they can simply negotiate any tax deal with the government.

obviously this doesn't count for joe average.

>>10077480
South America


It's like going to burgerland only major differenxe the rural states (South America) are abundant with agriculture (cheap organic food) Los Angeles to New York / Brazil to Bolivia /........of the 2 ......one gives you Adriana Lima and the other gives you a fat Mexican ........if you don't understand what I mean you make sure you hodl BCC. You will make it

>>10068867
Taipai.

IOTA Smart City.

Nuff said.

Hydro made me travel......thanks to a guy called HOLONAIRE........i made it to SA and I showed you food, women, cheap prices. What more do you want, unshill me plz I can't take it..........the continent is perfect if you have burger money

>>10075402
>taiwan
Haha I can tell another IOTA fan is in the house!

>>10077034
i'd rather just live in a cheap, cozy college town in the states than move to south america.

>>10069506
ROFL. Do you even know how much you get on Disability? $700 a month. Not even enough to live on. Also it took me 5 years to get it with legitimate illnesses so good luck bud.

>>10068867
I went to Portugal for this reason. I'm going back to my home country in a week to look for a job. I need structure in my life or I'm fucked.

>>10069664
If you ever consider Romania, dont move to anywhere but Bucharest. Bucharest still has that shithole feel to it, but the rest of the country is african europe in comparison

>>10068867

Singapore is a neoreactionary paradise

This is from a book I’m reading about the founder

Slovenia

>>10078381
>I'm going back to my home country in a week to look for a job. I need structure in my life or I'm fucked.
I know this feel but DON'T go yet. You will almost certainly have to pay taxes in your home country if you go back already

>>10079499
Yeah but my home country considers me "ordinarily resident" for three years after leaving, so I'd still need to pay taxes until that time elapses. I don't want to wait that long.

>>10068991
Iceland

>>10068867

>>10079905
Wait wait, are you from Finland?

>>10081476
If so why did you go to Portugal? And did it work for you? I am Finnish and just got ass raped because I moved, cut my ties and they still won't let me go

Please respond, I really want to talk to someone in the same situation

>>10068867
Panama or Portugal maybe

>>10081476
bump

>>10068939
They're pretty low in Indiana. In some places, like Las Vegas, there isn't even a state income tax.

Brazil.

>great rich areas with 0 criminality
>cheap land
>cheap real state
>cheap living expenses
>age of consent is 14yo (yes, even a 60yo can bang a 14yo)
>tropical paradise
>easy to buy drugs if you are into that
>a decent amount of LGBT if you are into gay sex

>>10081496
>>10081476
>cut my ties and they still won't let me go
Are they physically keeping you from leaving or what? Just get on a plane and don't look back

>>10082085
Not like that, but they will still tax me even after I followed their instructions exactly for tax non-residency

>>10082077
I forgot
>bitcoin is worth at least 10% more (your 100k bitcoin will be worth 110k)
>the Brazilian IRS are composed of corrupt illiterate monkeys (you won't have to worry about taxes, and you can always bribe them)
>crypto is well known here and it is gonna be easy to use your crypto

Isn't it hard to get Visas to live in another country?

>>10082156
not if you have money

>>10082156
>to live
You don't need that to live, only to work, nobody cares if you are a rich bastard living illegally in the country (any country), but they don't like illegal miserables

And it is not hard to be legally accepted to get a visa if you can live without working

>>10082192
>visa to live
FIX

>>10068867
The best Nation is the Constitutional Republic of the United States.

You just have to buy a seat or two in congress, a sherrif, a county comptroller/executive, and a pocket of judges.

Maybe join one of the secession movements like Cascadia or Niagara.

Barry Seal, Mena Arkansas is a model. But wresting a county from the criminal BAR is not something one merely does. You need a people to run the racketeering conspiracy to overthrow lawful governance.

Aside from that, the

>>10082262
HOLY SHIT, THE ANON WAS HIT BY A SN

>>10081808
bump

>>10068867
cambodia
costa rica
ukraine
spain
portugal

do your fucking research

>>10083029
>cambodia
>spain
Why

>>10083337
really you asking why ?
do your fucking research

>>10082285
Uhhh wtf is going on IT-

>>10068867
unironically russia

>>10080705
iceland has the most attractive women on earth and are super easy. i visit there every year. would never live there, though. crazy high taxes and shit weather.

>>10068867
realistically your best bet is staying in america. do your research and choose a good state.

>early retirement's requirement is 25 years (300months) of work
>tfw 5 down 20 to go

>>10071478
>that 30 year old venezuelian boomer

>>10071432
None of them are hot

>living in any country other than the USA, UK, Australia or Canada

How could someone even do this? The idea of living in any other country disgusts me. An order of magnitude more disgusting is greasy gook countries.

>>10075205
Winters are shit ill give you that but you can just go somewhere else for that. Winters are shit most places.
Elaborate on the Laws and Politics man.

>>10083455
The reason I am asking is because I did my research. Fukcing 3 months of research. And then I actually executed based on the research. Spain has high crypto taxes and cambodia is an absolute shithole

>>10082077
Kill yourself

>>10083925
>that 3 year old venezuelian boomer

>>10071676
I'm too paranoid about STDs to sex a prostitute

>>10083029
>cambodia
lmao

>>10081496
Irish. And I went basically to "start the clock" on the 3 years that I need to be out of the country. Did it work for me? Well no, I've only been here for a week and I'm leaving soon. So basically just turned out to be a holiday..

>>10085429
Thanks for the reply. We have the exact same thing in Finland. It really sucks.

>>10068906
amen brother

>>10068933
Malta is boring after a few years maybe, but my first year here was a blast.

>>10085693
It sucks indeed. I might try to get a job abroad somewhere, just so I'll be able to sell in the future without taxes. Wouldn't need to be in Portugal, just somewhere without this shitty tax rule, then I could go to Portugal or similar country after three years.

>>10085844
My problem is I sold already this year, lived abroad 6 months+, and still have to pay 34% taxes because of that gay fucking kike rule

>>10083653
the absolute worst reply in this thread. you need bazinga coin levels of retarded to make it and decide to retire in russia

>>10071478
>Not the ones who aren't poor

>>10083965
>What is Germany?
>What is Norway?
>What is Switzerland?
>What is Austria?

>>10086024
What if you just don't pay the taxes? What are the extradition laws with Finland about tax evasion?

>>10069272

chile is not that cheap. i was just down there. its about the same as flyover usa

>>10086808
I have been considering telling them to fuck off and not paying, but then I can never visit here again I assume. Not sure about the laws

Is Malta cheap? Is it hard to get citizenship?