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https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/tesla-opens-model-3-invites-all-remaining-reservation-holders/?ftag=COS-05-10aaa0b&linkId=53547439

TSLA is going full pump.

Its nothing but motherfucking green

PLEASE SOMEONE FIX THE OP

It is AmeritRade not Ameritade ffs

and interactive brokers is $0.005 per share, $1 minimum, 1% maximum

>>10049397

>>10049428
surely it will get fixed next time around

>>10049428
Please never fix this

i may go all in tesla calls tomorrow.

talk me out of this

Lmao RIP if you buy TSLA at this double top. This shit will be 90% down by next year.

Sorry about HMNY, goyim. This upcoming reverse split fucked up my estimations. I don't know how much they're going to consolidate by, but what you're going to want to do is buy in at the current equivalent of $0.03. So if they consolidate by 7 buy at $0.21, etc.

Commie bullshit Gold tanking like a little doomsday bitch

>>10049470
down 100% because Tesla will BK by Sept screencap this post

just coming back to tell you all that you should have listened. tomorrow won't be the end as bad as it may be. please don't let the golden bull meme ruin your shit in the coming dump. have a plan to get through it and then resume your golden dreams

>>10049492
Why was yesterday sideways/slightly up?

>>10049492
HOW VAGUE AND FOREBODING

Golden bull for life, dont fall for the FUD like Teh Profit

>cron
Getting a 5 year exclusive deal into Poland

Worth the pump?

REMINDER TO ALWAYS DO THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT EXPERTS TELL YOU

holy shit so many new and different websites are now recommending IQ. this stock is the news machine of stocks.

>>10049514
i didnt "fall" for any FUD.
so far everything ive said has happened. if we see vol continue to increase this week, then im right

>>10049543
what are the experts telling us?

Just like the banks this morning
Chinks dump before the pump
Chinks, I worry not for you because this is the bottom for the index

>>10049554
>holy shit so many new and different websites are now recommending IQ. this stock is the news machine of stocks.
This isn't a normal shitpost or meant to be a flame.

What's your YTD%?

>>10049554
you sold your equity
Its time to face the Brazen Bull

>>10049564
just about to go positive from the massive fuckup i had in febuary that nearly totalled my account (i got short vol'd hard for like half m account because i was retarded). ive never said im anything other than a newbie.

>>10049574
ive been making much more since i sold my equities. that was what was dragging me down. these last two weeks have given me solid 10% weeks

>>10049585
Okay was an honest Q. Was wondering if some crazy high end trader was in the thread. Hope you guys don't take shitposting seriously.

TRXC or IQ tomorrow?

>>10049428
>>10049428
Interactive brokers charges you like 100$+ a month for live data. If you want stocks data you need to pay 30$+. Options data 30$+. Futures data 30$+. Commodities data 30$+. Even bitcoin futures... Interactive brokers is not cheap unless you trade more than once a day.

>>10049601
>2 weeks out of 30 years
I smell a total loss on your horizon
10% in a week is not healthy growth, its gambling toer
I reccomend you sell that junk and go with FONE

this is not a time when i wanted to be right. i might buy when we get back to feb lows but honestly we'll probably drop through them if we get there a third time. on the s&p that is. the dow is already there

>>10049540
bumping this topic

>>10049625
RATSU

>>10049629
truly pathetic

>>10049645

>>10049605
>Was wondering if some crazy high end trader was in the thread
no i am thoroughly retail scum. i just also happen to think im right this time
>Hope you guys don't take shitposting seriously
lol i dont
but i DO like arguing w people about this stuff, as i never get to even talk about this stiff irl

>>10049625
ill be ok nikkei dont worry
total losses happen occasionally options, but usually only if youre OTM and with no time.

the way i use options is not what youd expect desu. i almost NEVER go OTM (and ive given up on retarded ER plays for good). i basically just use like 1-2 year contracts as a sub in for having actual equity. w the long contracts, theta is negligible especially when ITM

the real turnaround for me recently has been starting to analyze futures and futures spreads

>>10049609
TRXC nice and slow

>>10049647
i understand you have a 50 year timeline but anyone else should probably take this seriously. i'm usually down with the golden bull but not this time

>>10049685
Good larp attempt, but no cigar
Im talking short term

I've never had to weather a crash before. I've tried to diversify my stocks (ignore AMD it's a meme)
how hard am I looking to get it when shit really hits the fan?

>>10049702
so your thesis is that in the short term everything moons? ok that's easy enough to test. good luck

>>10049722
Correct sir. Chink Stock market just hit bottom
Nikkei Im not calling bottom
Americans going up the rest of the week
blah blah blah take notes

>>10049708
i don't think we're looking at a crash at least as i define it (crash into a bull market). we're looking at a heavy pullback at least on par with feb. it will be uncomfortable but have a plan. even if it's doing nothing. as long as it's a decision and not panic

>>10049740
UVXY options, here i come!

>>10049740
my plan is "buy calls on banks and commodities and if I actually profit, buy gold, banks, high-div-yield stocks, and blue chips"
truth be told I don't know what else to do. I don't know enough to profit off a crash/pullback using puts because I don't know how to properly predict when shit's going to go down, so the best I can do is buy options which are way far out and hope for the best

>>10049629
do you think in the event that we start crashing, that oil prices rising might allow the DOW to outperform? im thinking if i want to buy any dips, they will be in the energy and industrial sectors

>>10049708
>SRC
ma nigga
theyve been doing great lately
so glad i was able to pick them up under 8 again.

but youll probably be ok
consumers/div aristocrats are where you wanna be in the event of a crash. if youre super scared and everything is crashing you can also unironically buy TVIX or a UVXY call to take the edge off a little.

another god hedge (imo) is to just buy one ITM put on whatever index youre heavy in

>>10049759
>the best I can do is buy options which are way far out and hope for the best
no you got it
this is the ONLY way to play long options.
if you cant pick which one in particular is gonna fall, just buy a put on an index. just ALWAYS give yourself WAY too much time

>>10049773
yeah it's entirely possible that oil will go through the roof and crash the market with no survivors but i don't think it's likely. but yeah, if shit gets too out of hand oil will moon and the market will crater

PUMPED

>>10049773
>oil
>dow
theres like 2 oil companies in the dow mang. the rest is shit like american express, nike and apple.

>>10049620
IB's target market is not the occasional trader.

>>10049708
AMD is fucked. Bitcoin and shitcoin mining is dead, now trump is gonna go hard on all chinese investments. Chip manufacturers that depend on bitcoin and shitcoin mining will survive the next quarter due to the high backlog. Next January this shit chip makers will go back down to 2.5$.

>>10049791
I can't afford a put on SPY, but I can afford an ITM put on QQQ.
Good idea?

>>10049887
I have faith in AMD and its burgeoning server processors

>>10049666
by the way I studied physics as an undergrad and did my thesis on black hole physics so HMU if you have any questions for your stories.

>>10049900
>>10049791
I'm not an expert, but I think that guy is feeding you bullshit. Long-term puts on an index seems like a horrible idea.

>>10049900
If you can barely afford a put, my advice is to not play options at all.

>>10049928
I would think so too but there's definitely something a'brewing and I just want to hedge my bets

>>10049940
I should rephrase. I have the purchasing power for a QQQ put but not a SPY put.

>>10049925
Yeah I do actually because I have no education

the most important thing I would like to know is:
Can you potentially have a blackhole seen from a planet like you would the sun?
Like the stars and planets closest to the center of the galaxy, can you see them from the planets surrounding?

>>10049949
here's the thing. for a lot of people especially newer, building up cash is the safest and most understandable "put"

i'm not even saying you should sell what you've got. just build cash and use it like an option to buy low. and if it doesn't happen, you can't lose, cause once the trend goes back to solid you can always find something to buy. there's always opportunity

>>10049963
good question, id like to know as well

>>10049963
no, a black hole can not be directly observed, only from its interactions with that which surrounds it can it be observed

a black hole of sufficient magnitude will have an extremely bright accretion disk surrounding its event horizon, making it appear like a star, however this is still not the black hole itself.

>>10049801
>yeah it's entirely possible that oil will go through the roof and crash the market
this is what ive been expecting to happen. but i think its more likely just heavy demand thats allowing oil to rise while the dollar is

>>10049928
oh fuck urself
he asked what to do to hedge exposure to main indexes. im not gonna tell him to buy the 3 day ones. besides long term options move far slower

>>10049813
a lot of the industrials seem to get hit with oil price fluctuations. and oil will crash with the DOW sometimes

>>10049900
if you cant afford it, dont play options. if things are really crashing you can buy some TVIX and do basically the same thing you would by buying a UVXY call

>>10049773
>>10049801

Oil is at 71. The max it can go up to this cycle is 75-80 based on a multi year trend line resistance. It has gas for a little more rally, but hardly enough to influence the market

I would actually bet that the coming market downturn will coincide perfectly with oils decline back to the 50s. I'm waiting for it

>>10049993
but if you were on a planet in the center on the glaxy orbiting the black hole very closely, would it appear like an Eclipsed Sun? Or is a sun too big? It would just look like a small star?

>>10049472
Been doing some thinking and a bit of theoretical math based on what I think they're going to do. Basically you're going to want to get in right around $0.25, AFTER the reverse split. They're going to try to push it up to around $2 to give themselves some breathing room from NASDAQ's $1 requirement, so something like a 9 or 10 per share consolidation, but that'll just make the bears push it down harder since it gives their current shorts much more room to grow while they add to it. You're welcome, goyim.

>>10049978
>building up cash is the safest and most understandable "put"
yeah lol I figured that out REAL quick
I've sworn off putting any more money into the market for now and rebuild my savings*; what's in there is in there and I want to see what I can do with it. I just picked a phenomenally poor time to begin investing but it's invaluable experience nonetheless

*not saying I put my savings in the stock market, but all I saved to put into the market is in there now.

>>10050028
at the center of every galaxy is a cluster of supermassive black holes and one absolutely titanic black hole.
These are the types with the star-like accretion disks orbiting them.
You can see in this photo of the Andromeda galaxy that it does in fact look like a star.

However, you want to know what the bare black hole looks like to the naked eye. Again, this is impossible to know.
when a bare black hole eclipses something, a peculiar effect known as "gravitational lensing" occurs.
Essentially, whatever light is directly behind the black hole gets unrecognizably distorted and wrapped around the event horizon of the black hole, almost like how reflections get warped around the whirlpool in a sink drain, just in 3 dimensions.

>>10050077
forgot the photo ayy

>>10050000

>>10050026
im saying 80, perhaps a bit above. if i see it go on a tear, i know what that means. still saying that OPEC is gonna let the price stay at a higher level and this will allow energy sector to revive itself

>>10050092
>>10050077
and this is what gravitational lensing looks like, when a black hole passes in front of something.

>>10050077
>>10050092
blackhholes are so cool
I tried to teach myself math to understand but only got to calculus 1 before giving it up

>>10049978

Underrated post

>>10049472
>>10050030
how do you calculate such things moishe? im interested in what the maths behind this could be. i dont know how youd be able to tell desu

>>10050119
I want to see this in real life so bad

>>10050139
>calculus 1 before giving it up
calc is hard imo
you wanna have a good teacher (few and far between)

theoretical physics is not something you merely teach yourself tho

>>10050139
Calculus is fun, you should go try again, just take it slow.

>>10050119
Looks like a dent in your hood.

How much do you guys diversity? Do you go all in on one meme stock or do you have like 10?

>inb4 index investing

Boring and gay

>>10050158
>wanting to see an over-glorified dent
Just make a dent in some metal.

>>10050175
I just got tired of the repitiveness
I dont actually remember anything but last 2 year ago I got really into self teach math and it ended up being super repetitive about something like curves and it was the same equation everytime for the whole book

I have the Psychics books which were actually interesting but I cant understand it after a few chapters because calculus got too repetitive

>>10050175
everyone says this, but I actually cannot tell what is difficult about calc. Once you stop actually having to apply the derivative formula and get to the rules it's easy af. Even diff eqs were not bad desu, it was just memorization, tedious but easy.

>>10050178
I will

>>10050178
i took it in high school cuz i was in accelerated math, but kinda didnt bother paying attention because i knew i wasnt going to be studying physics after i left high school. not to mention how awful the teacher was at it. chick had no idea how to do any of it, and just taught us how to punch it into a graphing calculator. i feel like half the class was just memorizing keystrokes on those TI-82s. the way math is taught now is garbage

but my basic understanding of it was enough to understand options and derivatives, so it came in handy

>>10050217
yea calc never clicked with me because i had no practical application to like visualize it or anything. physics probably wouldve helped

>>10050240
the mechanics arent bad. its just anything past that and combining them all into new equations with the new functions. w out a proper teacher, youre kinda on your own desu

>>10049388
No actual trucker would drive that. Looks faggy as all hell l2marketing

>>10050211
2 at the moment, not sure what else to get.

Why is no one talking about GE today, major american company up 7%. Looks like it might be the second half of a double bottom, only time will tell.

>>10050305
because everyone got FUD'd and sold

Know about 2 die when everyone starts visiting you sweatysnæk.jpg

>>10050275
>drive

>>10050318
why do people think the market is going to crash tomorrow, yeah its stumbling, but its not likely to fall tomorrow

>>10050340
c-commie
we're gonna go up and then we're gonna go to chillies!

That piece of shit HMNY dropped another 2.5% AH. It's really over, isn't it?

>>10050340
>first annual biz meetup
>hosted in front of RKG's tombstone

>last annual biz meetup

>>10050360
small spec analysis that needs to be ignored and thrown in paper shredder

>>10050305
Bro I’ve been shilling GE here forever but kept getting called a faggot boomer. Guaranteed better return than any of the FANG stocks over the next 5 years. In 2 years GE will be on the cover of all the major financial mags, cap this

who else here short SONC at 35?

Why are these tech companies with P/E ratios in the 100s considered good at the price? Like look at amazon, they are priced in to 10x their earnings vs blue chip stocks that pay dividends. Do people really think amazon is going to become 10x more profitable in a reasonable time frame? Same thing with Netflix. Hell, TSLA is priced in to make double the amount of cash it is currently burning. How do these share prices make any sense?

>>10050305
ive been waiting for broker to execute buy order for GE stock when it was at like 12.55 two days ago. Now it moons and trade still hasn't executed. Im fucking heated but it was always going to be a long term hold anyway. I am a very beginner trader but I do take the buy low/sell high seriously. School house rock ftw

>>10050360
thats what i think is coming is more vol in the near term

>>10050158
supervoids are way cooler than black holes imo
its like that one episode of voyager
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrS0rxX-UhA

>>10050139
Blackhole math wrong anyways ...!
The real architecture of gravity wells is something like a "fuzzball" where space just becomes nearly infinitely long and wraps around itself like 5 year old box of Christmas lights

>>10050378
greed, new paradigm, etc etc

>>10050378
boomer Speculation
also Amazon might take over the world and Tesla might take over the roads.
It's alls peculation.

>>10050378
10x earnings does not mean it is expected to increase ten-fold soon. The earnings multiplier is a market measurement of viability and expectation into the future. Two stocks could be expected to double in value over the next 5 years and have a difference of 10x in share value depending on industry and long term scaling. Very few investments operate on a 1 to 1 EPS share value, that would be insane.

buy sbux or no

>>10050378
Same thing as every retarded bubble before and after

>>10050365
Fraction of a cent soon.

>>10050385
Don't whore out my girl!

>>10050381
I mean, I think recession is imminent, triangle broken downwards into a rectangle with another high vol break down suggest so, but its not 'collapsing'.

>>10050381
never heard of supervoids
Ill be watching this...


>>10050385
>panties
sorry what?

>>10050442
thats called a fakeout breakout and is a buy signal

>>10049963
It would be difficult to see a normal black hole with the naked eye, especially if you mean the "black" part of a black hole. To be clear, no black holes have been directly observed, only inferred.

However the larger the black hole the easier be to see. I say "eaiser" to mean eaiser to see at a distance that wouldn't destroy you. If you double the mass of a black hole, it gets twice as easy to see and you can get four times closer without being destroyed. So extremely large black holes would be eaiser to see than, say, a black hole the mass of the sun. I'm also talking about the light distortion field, not the black hole itself. I think for any black hole, if you can see the black part if it, you're about to be destroyed. And the bigger the black hole, the harder it is to get close enough to see the black part.

>>10050462
how is it a fakeout?

>>10050410
Of course its not going to be 1 to 1 but I am trying to get a grasp of what everyone is hoping for. My thought process is "For this price to make sense, this company is expected to make this much money in the future." Even to be considered a "maturing" tech company like google with a 30ish P/E, amazon would have to quadruple its earnings. And that's if its share price does not move.

wowzers!

Who else here is secretly hoping comcast rapes disney on this 21CF acquisition? Im already starting to see the shills out there "worried" disney might lose the deal and how consumers should be afraid of this possibility.

>>10050476
But I think in fiction, you'd be able to get away with painting a visible black hole in the sky and no one would care. QIf you wanted to be accurate, you'd just paint the light distortion but that'll probably confuse readers .

>>10050485
you should b asking: Why would it fall....

>>10050476
the main thing that I cant understahnd in my head is what it would like to orbit a black hole closeley like the sun
Like what would THAT look like in the daytime? Just a bloack spot in the blue sky, or invisible?

>>10050532
full disclosure, I am an amateur, but this looks clear enough from my standpoint.

>>10050363
What best thing to order from Chili's

>>10050366
>Tonight on Big 5 News: mystery explosion kills 6 at local graveyard.
Gonna see if can get one of friends to take pictures of me corpse and post on /SMG/

>>10050545
ok but if you look at the fundaamentals, the individual component of the DOW, if you know market histroy... you know thats the most obvious buy ever

>>10050379
goes up $1. 'moons'

>>10050570
That doesn't answer my question, what fundamentals? what market history? wheres the proof?

>>10050560
Im gonna go with the grilled cheese and the Pepper Pals cheese pizza
Kids menu so a good value

>>10050589
Lol you are asking me to explain to you 100 years of shit
I have no interest in small specs, I want people like you to short the market to fuel my bull
So learn or suffer

>>10050532
Ye it would be invisible. If the moon was in the sky and nearby, it would look distorted but otherwise you couldn't see it during the day (just like any other patch of dark sky)

if I was a reader, id want the black spot in the sky because it's cooler desu.

>>10050340
>double clouds
Just when I thought I had seen every TA meme someone makes a new one.

Selling all of my BOTZ tomorrow and putting it all into X (US Steel)

This shit is going to run

>>10050636
unless the sun was behind the BH then it would dark (like a solar eclipse)

>>10050636
aw, slightly disappointing but It will work

>>10050560
delete this

>>10050632
You are either a shill or hopelessly retarded, I don't deny the technicals might be incorrect, but you have yet to produce one (1) piece of evidence to support your claim that the market is fundamentally strong. A line pointing straight down is not a buy signal.

>>10050695
I dont give a fuck what you do stupid commie
I will make money and you wont, so fuck yourself

>>10050674
I hope this makes sense

>>10049551
This is a short signal fyi, people want to steal normies money, you were warned.

>>10050743
obviously things would change as the earth orbits the sun (ie, the black hole might have previously been only visible at day but it becomes visible at night later)

>>10050614
>grilled cheese

>>10050413
Yes
>>10050435
She wearing panties though!

>>10050743
Godamn thats aweosme'
SAVED
>deletes 10 years of Ratsu lore

>>10049759
Never buy options OTM, its a fools errand.

Deltas of .4 or more with at least 45 days. Take profits at 50%

>>10050743
more accurate

>>10050763
everyone likes cheese

>>10050545
your technicals are meh. I wouldn't sell right now.

I get so depressed when I think about people just accepting established tech stocks @ 100 P/E on the promise of "growth". In the short run, the market is like a voting machine--tallying up which firms are popular and unpopular. But in the long run, the market is like a weighing machine--assessing the substance of a company. As the acceptable horizon for generating earnings to match your price increases, the amount of time the market stays a voting machine increases. The amount of speculation and over extension increases. This can only lead to the difference between the voting and weighing machine to increase. The bigger the difference, the more devastating the surprise when the weight comes in. Quarterly reports do little to help. Because earnings can be inflated through accounting tricks, the only weighing seems to come from a catalytic event that forces the market to response. Why wasn't our system designed to have internal checks and balances on this insanity? How can this lead to anything but a devastating crash?

>>10050570
The normie market crashing
Am not saying full collapse but the investment cycle where average boomers can throw money at anything & see marveling returns am cumming to an end

>>10050824
Netflix is still underpriced. Can a small spec comprehend this?

>>10050119
it's like reality was made of glass!

>>10050378
The way I look at it, but not necessarily the thing I believe, is that if you invest in a bluechip stock the only way to go is down. Ford aren't going to moon mission ever again. Theoretically what's to stop Adidas or Puma (part owned by Kering) from taking away half of Nike's revenue? What if Justin Beiber - that cunt - starts a sneaker company that does for sneakers what Beats by Dre did for oversized headphones?

But with Amazon, who have already gone from book seller to cloud computing could theoretically disrupt many more industries and has so much more growth to make. They are just as likely to disrupt the bluechips as be disrupted themselves. In short, they are the most likely to grow.
Now of course if you look at it through fundamentals and study the management teams you'll form your own opinions on which tech companies are overpriced and which blue-chips are vulnerable.

>>10050385
>nearly infinitely long and wraps around itself like 5 year old box of Christmas lights
beautiful analogy

>>10050869
this is where the average small spec gets it wrong'
Baka Kneepads

This is called a fakeout
People dont realize this is the break in the smack half of the bull

Also for those of you with small accounts and want to trade options, look into tastytrade, they have the best options interface right now and you can watch their videos to learn how to do spreads and stuff. They will let you short options as spreads and butterflies with very little capital.

For example you can buy a naked put on the spy but that would be about 2k, however if you did a vertical call spread you would only spend around 50 bucks. Their interface allows you to see the probability of profit and time curves very easily in order to understand the greeks.

Even if you dont open an account at least look into the videos they have on options trading, the guys are professional and the creators of think or swim.

>>>10049095
>I put $1,000 into robin hood. after the 5 days will I be able to take that money out if I want too or is my instant deposit cash permanently stuck in my account until I either double my money and take 1,000 out or loose it all?
Looking for answer to this potentially stupid question

>>10050870
I suppose this is just going to increase forever until there's billions of people with a netflix subscription, right?

>>10050933
Exactly
Bring out the Smal;l spec short float
>Pump it
like fucking clock work
see you at 1000

Extrapolate current earnings, and number of subscribers to a future end state for the company with a P/E ratio of 10. Assume 1 subscription per family/household. At the current share price, this would entail the entire current population of earth having a netflix subscription.

>>10050979
awesome
>pump it anyways
Listen to large specs for once

>>10050791
>e...everyone l-likes cheese..! I'm not addicted or anything.... ordering off the kids menu is just cheaper Haha....

>>10050893
Am actually more or less agreeing with this, but the takeout gonna be a stakeout too
It going more painful than this cutie blood play too

>>10051026
>fakeout gonna be a shakeout ^
>.>

market crash is not imminent in my opinion. 5-7 months we might see a downturn if momentum continues to wane. we'll see

>>10050933
They need about triple the subsciptions to actually pay off the debt they are accruing, very stupid to produce much original content (most of which is sjw crap) and not simply aggressively liscense all the good content. They are going to lose when every content producer starts offering their own pay per stream service separately. The winners will ultimately be disney and comcast.

>>10051026
Nothing wrong with cheese
Buy kraft!

>>10051041
this is what normal human extrapolation thinks, so I get it, but its actually going to moon

>>10049428
please rename it Ameritard

>>10051085
it could moon, but we've been in an incredibly long bull market already, and with Trump and the tariffs and just my gut feeling, I'm not hopeful. just my opinion obviously

>>10051123
how the mother fuck do people have thisd opinion still

1. half the market been in a crash for years
2. OBVIOUSLY the trade wars are fakeout dip buying opportunities, its not like they will just crash the world economy
3. All the mother fucking money the companies have now

>>10049388
What a fucking ugly truck
please tell me no retard in here believes that this homer truck will be able to compete on the market

>>10051123
The main thing that makes me think the market won't crash is that midterms are around the corner so the PPT will pull out all the stops.

>>10051123
also, 2008 wasnt a "reccesion"
It was a mother fuckl CRASH
like 1930s
We just fucking recovered
The "10 year cycle" meme doesnt apply

>>10051175
>car designed for the average man
>70k
sounds about right for TSLA, kek

>>10050372
youre still a faggot boomer, a dead cat bounce means nothing

can someone fill me in on why the chink market is closed right now?????

>>10051175
Hey, if cars like the Nissan Juke and Pontiac Aztek exist, then so can that gay-looking Tesla truck.

Did the chink market just fucking Circuit break or is that lunch break?

>>10050156
The math is the easy part since it's a very rough estimate anyway. It's literally just basic arithmetic based on what I think HMNY and investors are going to do. I could very easily see it going below $0.20, but I won't be able to do a closer estimation until I at least know what they're going to consolidate by. Earlier I was thinking 9 or 10, but now I'm thinking 12 or 13. Anyway, the biggest point is that it will very quickly get pushed down into the kinds of numbers we're seeing now (0.20 range) after they try to consolidate above $2. Like it's going to be right back here within a couple days, after ~50% drops. HMNY will survive through this though and there will be massive gains to be made by those who get in when everyone else thinks its in its death throes.

>>10051341
Silence for impending US Treasury selloff, yuan is tanking right now

Is this my chance to get out with minor loss, or should I wait for it to keep going up?

>>10050925
I'm pretty sure you are being retarded and that you can just take your own money out after a few days. There is some type of settling policy because of money laundering but it's not more than a week.

>>10051493
Nigga if we knew we would all be rich

>>10051417
Prospecting new investor here.
So you reckon the best option would to buy in now. What for the consolidation and then sell?
Sounds simple enough.
So the price per stock would shoot up immediately after the reverse split?

>>10051594
Nigger, don't put your money anywhere near HMNY. You're way too inexperienced for this beast. You literally just described doing the opposite of what I was getting at. I thought your posts was bait until I saw your other question about Robinhood instant deposit. Which there should be absolutely no reason why you wouldn't be able to pull your $1000 out after it clears in a couple days.

>LCI
profitable company with new drugs coming

>>10051643
>Nigger, don't put your money anywhere near HMNY.
Lol. I really need to gain more knowledge about this shit. It sounded like you said their price would rise after consolidation and then plummet back to where it was after a couple days
>I thought your posts was bait until I saw your other question about Robinhood instant deposit
Not my question just wondering as I haven't even tried out robinhood yet
Since your a boffin what should I try looking into before I start putting money anywhere. I hear so much shit from everywhere saying this and that.

>>10051706
Lets say HMNY is exactly $0.20 when they consolidate by 10. That means every stock will become worth $2.00, but if you had 10 stocks, you now only have 1. Nothing about this process moves the value in either direction. It's just a death knell that makes investors want to get out, so the price will almost always drop from it. I'm saying that HMNY's drop will be so bad that they'll be back down to where they were before the consolidation.

I dunno what you should be looking at right now. I ignore a large majority of the market and just focus on a couple volatile stocks at a time to swing trade. Just play with some blue chips and ETFs until you get the hang of it.

>>10051776
>I'm saying that HMNY's drop will be so bad that they'll be back down to where they were before the consolidation.
Ah-huh got that. Sorry for the confusion
>Just play with some blue chips and ETFs until you get the hang of it.
I'll look into it thanks

Got my first job at mcdonalds. Gonna spend around 6-7 months there until i can start something with SQL. In the meantime this will fund my investing.

>>10051077

>>10051417
hmny will be going bankrupt in the month dude. their moviepass shit is making them hemorrhage money like I have never seen.

ITT: teh profit spergs out, knee pads posts lewd anime, my favorite trips and anime posters drop by, and bears get butt raped by bulls
10/10 read after work

Red day tomorrow

>>10052014
I counter-bless tomorrow's market to force-lock into +2% gains for all posters within the next 24 hours

>slept poorly last few nights
>keep on waking up around 2 after fitful dreams but can't remember them
>finally wake up coherent enough to remember some

>it's literally just images of random red numbers cascading slowly down my field of vision and people indistinctly mumbling about _____ company being down

I've done and given myself the Tetris effect with the stock market /smg/ :(

>>10052043

won't work.

>>10051998
;_; b5g killed himself

>>10052043
Activate pendulum effect all blessings are now curses
Red day now +2% stronger

>>10051970
They have at least another 6 months left, maybe even a year.

Can i by tesla through Robinhood.. But let's say I'm leaving the USA soon for Europe, Will I be able to keep using Robinhood or you guys recommend another platform?

.t a humble coiner

>>10050489
I think what you are hung up on is comparing tech companies to other successful companies as apposed to other companies within their niche.

>>10052169
No he didn't, the tone of his posts are pretty easy to spot, and he uses the same reaction images over and over again.

Also, if you're bored and need to laugh at someone retarded, go to /r/robinhood. The level of st00pidity is amazing

>>10051493
Dead cat bounce. Short with leverage

>>10052210
Yes you can buy Tesla.
Yes you will be able to access Robinhood even if you are not physically in the States, as long as you are a US citizen and have a legal US address.

are they gunna accept European people to sign up??

What's a tradingview equivalent for android, preferably free?

>>10051450
So the chinks sell off the US Treasuries, they will have USD on hands
Treasuries yield goes up and USD goes down right ?
Wouldn't higher yield be what the FED is looking for ? and that a weaker USD is in favor of American companies ?

>>10052328
Once GDPR is repealed

>>10052289
I'm planning to abandon my greencard.

>>10052500
dunno then m8

>Trump S E E T H I N G at Harley-Davidson again
He's hilarious. I hope he'll put more tariffs on the EU, so they will retaliate and it will all happen again.
The US industry litteraly can't compete with EU socialists, the whole thing is a shitshow.

>>10052415
Higher yield means better t bill returns means equity selloff and margin calls for the short bond crowd.

btw futures just erased todays gains.

>>10052562
I thought China dumping US Treasuries would be good for bond short-sellers

So if I understand your logic: bond yield goes up -> Equity sell-off -> money pour into bonds -> bond short-sellers getting rekt in the end

Should we expect a weaker dollar then ?

>>10052682
If China is dumping its USD and its bonds, you can expect a slowly weaker dollar because they don't want to crash the market they are selling into.

>CHY down
>Oil up
>JPY up
>USD up
>treasuries down
Someone's selling bonds into USD then is buying commodities with those USD, it seems.

>>10049540
>>10049635
Source on that?

lads I'm serious. I'm miserable how do I get myself out of this rut? Working 70 to 80 a week is fucking miserable.. im tired..

I hope you all listened to me and held in there. Oils gonna run then we might see some volatility in August.
Will shill my next scheme by then. Working on it...
T.uso options faggot

What are some good rap songs about..getting money?

>>10053205
oh shit an anon called it yesterday

I wondered where the chinks gonna park their USD obtained after selling off their US Treasuries, and he said exactly this: stockpiling commodities

The chinks are really acting like locusts here

>>10053512
Asdfasdf

report all posts that use "goyim", "moishe", ((( ))), and happy merchant images

who here has DUK? It looks pretty attractive

>>10053747
Hshdhfbdbdbd .__.
ima tired anon...one day I'll make it..just stay focused on the money..

>>10053757
>1 post by this ID
I'm onto you Shekelstein.

>>10053747
Didn't you say you'd start drawing penises again when SPY dipped below 272 or something like that?
I need one for research purposes, if you have your old ones saved that would be great as well. Preferably a fierce one.

Good morning men, women, and tranny! I hope no one gets bogged today from trade-war nonsense. Don't the crazy fluctuations and volatility let you make shit decisions.

>>10053770
Stop being bitch!
Would literally kill for 80 hour work week!!!

>>10053850
80 hours can be mind numbing depending in the job. I worked in a factory setting for a while just building crates and moving shit in the heat, it was rough. If you want 80 hours of work, medical condition or not, I bet you could find plenty of online jobs that could get you those kind of hours. They would only pay 6-12 bucks an hour but hey, if you just wanna be busy.

>>10053805
Need BTC back above 7400 before can draw penis strength Index with ernest effort ;_;
SPY returning to properly place help alo5 tho

Here me favorite one!

>>10053850
>>10053815
Namefags and others that are up at this hour, I have a desperate request.
I need to know if diesel prices are going up or down; I need to know information about U.S. interest rates
I need to know where I can find information about the increase or decrease in foreign companies basing manufacturing in China
And I need to know what Trump wants out of the trade war with China.

I am on to something

>>10051493
Seconding this question.
I am down 4% on my current trade but overall made like 6k on this stock.

I might actually just baghold this like a brainlet.

WIll I get fucked hard?

>>10053954
Get out of any Chinese company.
I'm dead fucking serious right now.

>>10053922
>And I need to know what Trump wants out of the trade war with China.
I feel that sometimes, when you see a person taking out a drastic action, it could mean he has no choice or the consequences are already there, only waiting to come out of the closet.

I don't think foreign companies (US or else) in overall make that much profits in China. Trump may think the same way and decided the chink market is not worth the while.

Are you Profy (teh profit) ?

>>10053890
Kek
Used work 80+ hour week b4 sick
Papergirl + technical support + student :P
Me loved the good goy

>>10053954
>>10053966
As for the US Treasury dumping game the chinks are playing, I wonder if they are doing it to pis off Trump (which I fail to realize since the FED want to raise the interest rate) OR they are forced to do it.

The FED is tightening, reducing the supply of USD in the world. Many many scam companies in Chinkland are indebted in USD.

I wonder if the chinks are trying to get USD to give them back to those companies.

I had a shitton of work piled this morning, managed to do everything in time, so I treated myself with a 10km run. Grabbed some lunch and now I'm gonna do some paperwork in my office all afternoon.

>>10053653
Yeah I did say that, and it's what happen apparently. They will try to fuck the US economy by starving it of cheap commodities.

>>10053970
>I don't think foreign companies (US or else) in overall make that much profits in China
They do a lot of profits actually. A friend of mine worked for EDF building nuclear plants in China, they are making money hand over fist while the same projects in the UK are barely making any.

>>10054034
Good job
I find what is happening right now to be so interesting

>>10053919
Thanks!

Not entirely what I had in mind, but it still works.

>>10053970
>Are you Profy (teh profit) ?
No, if I wanted to name fag then I could have (maybe should have) done it a long time ago. I regret not doing it, but at the same time I'm relieved.
I don't want to lose anybody money.

getting solid numbers out of China is like milking a rock; you get nowhere meaningful
I want to capitalize on a disaster coming; either China will capitulate to our president's demands or everybody is going to fucking burn bad
With both the U.S. and China having win conditions and loss conditions (some of which I haven't 100% identified); we've got about 1-4 months

China's loss condition lies in real estate, America's loss condition lies in the constriction of essential materials being refined by businesses/national debt
China's weak getting weaker(slow), America's strong getting weaker(fast)
I'll try to explain with actual data if I can find anything that isn't a rumor

>>10054001
Expandedon that, my bet is that China wants to keep manufacturing from coming back to the US due to tariffs. So they devaluate the CHY by printing a lot of it, then buy their commodities with their USD tradewar chest.

trump just saved the golden bulls

>>10054266

>>10054269
>>10054266

ive been a bear for weeks now but its time to embrace the bull

I can admit I was wrong

>>10054185
A cause for crisis in China is indeed the state of their RE market. It is obvious it is due for a massive write-off. What would happen if the normie chinks realize they are far less wealthy than previously thought ? and if their properties drop in prices, what would happen to their loans ? And let's not forget about the liquidity issues of their companies.

I wonder how much of their devaluation shit is to piss off Trump rather than to prop up their failing markets.

>>10054266
I wonder what concessions (if any) Emperor Trump got out of the chinks

>>10054269
are you Bizonacci ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1j5lzT2pVU

>>10054290
I am not the living legend Bizonacci no

>>10054286
I still think NFLX belongs below 350 though

>>10054290
>I wonder what concessions (if any) Emperor Trump got out of the chinks
Trump has probably understood that he couldn't win the trade war, for the same reason the US couldn't win the Vietnam war. Also, the chinese don't devaluate to prop up their markets (their stocks are nothing for the party but a glorified casino they have to put up with due to treaties, they don't give much of a fuck about it), they devaluate to negate the effect of tariffs.

>>10054299
I meant the giant greenn dildo
Sminem-sama literally bought the dip

>>10054319
Oh you are that french fag
Keep sucking on the EU mudslime cocks

>>10054319
>they devaluate to negate the effect of tariffs.

exactly right

https://twitter.com/jsblokland/status/1011588356948537348

Plan 4 2 day
Unironically strongest buy ever seen

>>10054060
ROFL
saved buy why would you make that

>>10054335
Don't let yourself being blinded by ideology my dude. The chinese government can force their business to act how the fuck they want and litterally ignore losses.
Yesterday, Trump had to deal with a litteral icon of american manufacturing (H-D) announcing they are losing 100 millions and are going to outsource due to the trade war.
On a side, you have a monolith of a political and economical engine that can act as one (because effectively they are one), and on the other side you have a president in an election campaign and companies that are laying people off due to his trade policies.

>>10054382
My dad works at Nintendo and he told me IQ was going to see new highs by July 10th at the latest.

Imagine being a person that falls for the fake news around the Trump admin and shorted the market before the close. Ouch.

Sell your chinese tech negroids

>>10054382
Harley already said that they were already planning on moving the factory goofus. Although tariffs are stupid

$cara mooning.
feels good to get fentanyl addixt of the strt

GE is gonna be back to 15 in no time at this rate

>>10054518
Also, the scale and the figures of the retaliatory sanctions are just ridiculously low

>muh symbolic impact
>muh pressure on Drumpf's political base
yeah lol

I was told SLV was going to $200 by Friday. What happened?

>>10054518
Harley Davidson is sticking it to Trump. Trump is shipping American jobs over seas. He's terrible, and we have to stop him. We're going to have a red wave in November and the commies will take power.

Is it possible for an Australian to open an American account on Robinhood?

I want to long one and only one FAANG company for at least 1 year.
Which one would you pick, and why?

>>10054555
Fag

>>10054565
amazon of course

>>10054565
Google

>>10054565
google.

more r&d and opportunities for innovation

>>10054290

>I wonder what concessions (if any) Emperor Trump got out of the chinks

They said they’d eliminate the 25% tariff on autos

>>10054518
Of course, yet, the all-american company is moving its factory to Thailand and they will dodge the 100M tariffs. Hundreds of jobs lost in Wisconsin. Farmers getting rekt by the prices dropping due to the trade war, and so on.
America already lost a real war with real bullets on political opinions, it's not too far-fetched to think Trump's advisors are telling him to tone down the retardation lest the midterms wreck him.

>>10054559
>you will never be that rug

>>10054559
you need a US social security number

>>10054632

wait that's all? not a US address? i have a SSN from like 15 years ago but no status or address any more

>>10054644
well im not really sure desu. come back and let us know if you somehow manage to sign up.

I assume the SSN is just to make sure you pay taxes.

>>10054600
>yet
They already said they were planning to move before the tarriffs. There is no yet.

So how are things going pre-market hours.

>Micron -1% when I check it this morning
>+1% now

>>10054681
Listen Sweetie the trade war is costing American's jobs. While normally I would be ok with this because it's better to give the jobs to the undocumenteds anyway this reflects very poorly on your president.

>stock up 1 SD premarket from where I bought my calls yesterday
thank you ppt

>>10054681
Some businesses are not meant to grow at all costs imo
Motorbikes (choppers) are similar to guitars for example

In both cases, the customer base is a niche and will hardly grow
Gibson went bankrupt because they wanted to expand their business and once the trend died out, they were deep in the red
Such companies should remain private and cater to their margin per unit sold instead of producing more (which should be left to lesser races such as the chinks)

spy, 275, friday, screencap

>>10054727
Sweetie posting really makes my blood boil

Green Day Imminent

Shill me some good European call options.

>Tfw was up over 30 percent port total on IQ and amd puts yesterday but didn't sell

>>10054737
Pls stop with the logic and well informed answers. This is /smg/.

>>10054737
Fucking hubris man

>>10054829
I like throwing messages in a bottle

>>10054846
Yes
Doing sustainable business should be a humble activity

>>10054727
It's costing american's [sic] jobs because they were planning to move before the tarriffs were announced? lol whatever, bro. Enjoy your fantasy world.

Metal Bulls the dump Part 2

>>10053587
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y1Ql-MnxIE

>>10054952
GLD is going to $50K per ounce and SLV to $200 per ounce. Just buy and sell on Friday.

>>10049620
They don't charge that much unless you subscribe to a shitload of different market data and news / analyst bullshit. It was like $10 a month or less for me to get NYSE and OTC data. And like another $10 per month for options and futures data from Chicago.

>>10054972
thats too much gain for me to handle

>>10054972
>SLV going to $200 per ounce

You've been watching too many commercials on Fox News friend.

>>10054952
yeah i dont think they can keep it up for too much longer. theyve been throwing everything they can at em in futures. this isnt even central banks doin it. its just futures jews smashing it relentlessly. theyll need to back off and reload just like everytime. ten we rip

>C
Moon it bitch

umm. this opening volume is crap. not even a budge of buying.

oh yeah we fuckin bull run now

i cant hold all this green

the dark times are over

>BA
MOon iT BITCH

Good Morning bulls.

drumpf saved the market

$iq moon

>BAC, JPM, and BRK.B are the only things in my portfolio that are red

god damnit I got memed by /smg/ again

anybody seeing the trades on NMM?

>TRXC +5.95%

>>10055097
no?

https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/?symbol=tsla

>>10053587
Cash over ass ice cube

>>10055096
Buffet'd

LCI lookin pretty good

>>10055097
well you should look through them... huge trades at 2

>>10055096
Me too brother :(

>>10055101
I just got in, can't believe I sold this at 1.80 smfh

>>10055101
>TRXC +7.18%

what the fuck is a DFBG

>>10055142
they make some ugly shoes or something why is it up 400%

>PED
Missed that one.

>>10054529
GE is just a hot mess. 2 years ago their CEO stated that they were going to teach every single employee how to code. They want to be a software company. Meanwhile their employees get wasted at 4pm and forgot that they never gave their b2b customers the 10,000 machine they never produced but still sold at full cost.

>>10055121
ment for>>10055103

>>10055160
yeah i dont see it

>>10055130
>>10055133
>+10.68

>>10055155
they have a new CEO now and they are in turnaround mode

they have bottomed

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1011849186692616194

>>10055167
easy on the gains buddy

GIS had a wild ride pre market but broke even, whew

>>10055148
Can't even buy puts on it

>>10055165
what broker are you using?? how can you not see the trades that went through?

>>10055177
reeeeeeee

Initiate the mother fucker Bank Pump

Does anybody know why SLV gapped down? I can't find any news.

>>10055170
In a way, GE's case may be comparable to GSK: a venerable company that resorted to M&A to spur growth and satisfy CEO's hubris.

As long as the debt is serviceable and the non-core business assets can be sold, GE may indeed turn around.

It would be interesting to see the interest expenses GE can save by paying off their debts.

>>10052500
Well RH is going to find out when the IRS no longer accepts your tax ID. You'll make it maybe 1 year.

>>10055210
Futures Jews dumping on it

Wait until it rallies back into range

>>10055210
It going down because Karma

>>10055120
>>10055127
>out of 6 stocks BRK.B is dead last in gains today

I respect Buffett, I really do, but Berkshire seems to have grown too big and has fallen victim to the "law of large numbers" in that it just can't make gains as quickly as smaller, more optimized / focused funds.

>>10055174
>literally p t barnum

C mooning like nobodies buisness

>>10055232
he is just too heavy on BAC
I trust both these will moon soon

Extremely high volume dump on AMD

Good you guys sell before big losses

>>10055174
is elon mush an ebin ruseman or what lel

>>10055252
Look, I'm holding BAC and it has 2x the gain % that BRK does today. EVEN FUCKING BAC IS OUTPERFORMING BRK.B TWO TIMES OVER

NETFLIX STOCK

>>10055210
as far as i can tell its because the dollar is creeping back again. i think DXY is gonna complete its head and shoulders and then pull back, which should give metals some breathing room

>>10055275
maybe he panic sold

>>10055241
So we all saw the greatest showman right? This is literally how they solve the problem at the end of the movie.

>>10055293
Don't we want a weak ass dollar to win the trade war?

>>10055298
kek

>>10055298
I dunno but BRK.B is performing worse than BAC, JPM, and C and is even doing worse than the DOW, NASDAQ, and S&P 500 today.

a Boeing pump to 340 would be really cool

>>10055317
>Today
Its actually under perfomred since January
Thats why we buy, because its going to launch into the stratoshpere and beat everything in the end of year rally

>>10055241
No one believes this. It's just an excuse for institutions to raise the share price and pressure the new shorts. I am convinced our financial institutions purposely inflate bubbles to profit from retail shorts.

>>10055312
Not happening. The FED still has the highest rates.

>>10055312
yes but people cashing out will cause dollar to rise, which is whats happening now

tech topping out

dow still pointing up

>>10055353
Can't some one call Powell and tell him to just pump out a couple hundred billion green backs, and bring the value of the dollar down? I want my $200 per ounce SLV by Friday.

>>10055369
sure ill text him nao. he normally doesnt get back to me till after lunch tho

>>10055369
Scientists are going to suck all the silver and gold from the earths core

High volume tech dumps right now, follow the money. Durables lads.

Sector rotation happening undercover thanks to Trump

>>10055409
kek
that would be a VERY bad idea

>>10055148
>DFBG
They are getting acquired.

>thinking about buying FCAU

How retarded am I? Looking at the chart it's about time for another 15%-20% jump if it repeats its 3 month pattern again.

Pump it Round 2

>>10055412
what are we all rotating into then, my fellow chosen one?

>>10055408
Thanks my dude.

Based BOEING

>>10055478
oh god i forgot the subject

deleting thread

>>10055460
on the real though
look at daily candles
this pin is exactly what happened last time we got this low
if i wasnt so heavy already id grab more. this is the run up to 15.75, then pull back to 15.50, then pop above 16 for half a second

>>10055478
I'm glad it got beleted. Put the spelling errors back. It's just not the same without them.

fixed it

>>10055493
>>10055493
>>10055493

new thread

>>10055493
>>10055493

>>10049551
>>10050747
Buy the dip and sell it once it bounces back up. Guaranteed money maker.

>>10055448
Consumers and energy