/biz/ - Business & Finance

how exactly does the system work for money making? and how do you gain a decent loyal following on youtube?

How many haters do you have? (including me)

>>997858
Is your channel about dick sucking techniques?

>>997871
Probably a lot. I dont read my comments so they barely register on my radar. The people who do waste their time complaining about me only help me make even more money by boosting my videos rankings.

You are a bit more visible than they are. Still isn't enough to make me care.

>>997858
no timestap? how do I know this isn't a screenshot from a youtuber's video?
FFFAAAKKEEE

>>997876
I like you, what's your channel name? I will subscribe. BROFIST

>>997869
The first question can be answered by a Google search and is not a good use of my time and knowledge to answer.

Followers loyalty depends entirely on what niche you are in. Generally speaking when in doubt, sell out, follow the formula: remind them to like and subscribe, pretend that you love all of your fans and you do it for their feedback.

It doesn't have to be true but feigned earnestness is a must. Anything else depends on the sector you're operating in.

>>997878
I don't need more subscribers, I get thousands every day. You have nothing to offer me so I have no reason to tell you.

>>997881
>>997883
Impostor until proven innocent bro

>>997883
I call fake

>>997884
>>997885

Now move on with the envious skepticism. It's boring.

>>997886
was not envious just skeptic, that's actually pretty cool, do you show your face in your videos, what do friends and people you know say about it?

>>997858
what makes a good youtube video, as in, what will attract the most views other than obvious answers like cat videos.

>>997886
I call real.
But OP is asshole though, just the way I like it in my youtubers fav list.

>>997888
I don't show my face. I pay others to show theirs. I'm a private person. When people find out you're successful they suddenly find you interesting. I don't want people like that in my life. I only associate with people who liked me before my rise to fame.

I've dropped it a few times to girls I've hit on that I never intended to see again. 9 out of 10 times their demeanor changes after learning. Fame is overrated. People are stupid and desperate for a slice of your pie.

>>997893
Please be ownagepranks

>>997889
What makes a good video is what is the most popular. If you look at the first 100 most popular non vevo channel you'll quickly see what the most people tend to go for. Niches are overrated, maximum broad popularity wins every time. The area with the lowest barrier of entry imo is gaming. It's way too easy to blow up in there. I've done it and could easily do it again.

Some specifics:
Human faces in thumbnails making exaggerated faces
Enthusiasm to the point of cringe worthiness
Less than 6 minute length
1080p is minimum, 60fps / 4k optimal
Flawless production value. Even your text has to be interesting. If it's not polished it won't be watched.

>>997898
I have my hands in many pies.

>>997901
Can I hab a pizza pls?

>>997902
There's a thread two below me asking what bitcoin is. To take a page from pol: Its 2015.

I didn't want to go to reddit because everyone there is a naive moron. I'm going to be honest. 99% of you will never make it. This place truly is the blind leading the blind.

whats your income per video and whats your release schedule?

When did youtube stop being about the passion for you?

>>997858
Im a private person and dont want to show my face or even my voice.
Any tips on making money on yt?

>>997903
Calm your penis my boy

How much monies do you make?

>>997886
why are you such a cunt though?

>>997905
Income per video is entirely performance based. If you've spent more than a week using youtube you'd know that. There is no such thing as consistent income on youtube. December pays you like there's no tomorrow because of ad spending for Christmas and January makes you think it's all going to end. There is no such thing as consistency with youtube.

You assume too much. Money is my passion, youtube gives me that, I have never lost it.

>>997907
I answered that in the original post. Also youtube isn't responsible for all of my money. I live well off of the revenue from other businesses I run and I have made smart investments.

>>997911
>Income per video is entirely performance based. If you've spent more than a week using youtube you'd know that.

don't drop your spaghetti sperglord and answer the question with real /biz/ numbers, sounds like fame has gotten to your head.

When you make a video that gets 60k views, how much would you approximate that you get from that single video?

Where did you initially find people who would represent you on you channels? Seems like it'd be tricky when you aren't established on there

>>997910
Because I can be and still have people like you propsitioning me for answers and advice.

>>997913
You want me to tell you privledged information but you can't stop yourself from getting irritated. Not a smart plan to get the answers you want. I owe you nothing, you've done nothing for me.

>>997914
What do you mean by represent. I'm not familiar with that.

>>997915
dude besides a fucking plaque, you haven't done or shown anything that proves your value as a human being. Your advice has been dodgy at best, most of this has been you telling /biz/ how much your fans suck.


My money is on skallagrim

>>997917
>privledged information
no you autistic wonderland, I am asking for hard numbers about what 60k nets you based on youtubes own advertising algorithms.

>>997919
Its everyone else's fault for not asking the right questions. So far all I've gotten is "How does money work on yt??????" And "how much money do you make????"

The second I answered in my first post to get out of the way but people still ask it. I have demonstrated my value. I have all the metrics of success. That is why people are here. They wouldnt be if I hadnt. Not hard to understand.

>>997922
Its fascinating how you expect answers from me while taking to me that way.

>>997918
You said
>I don't show my face. I pay others to show theirs.
So I'm guessing you had to find people from the very start to be in the videos. I was wondering how you came across the right people and how you sold the idea to them. Maybe it was solely the money you offered.

>>997924

>The second I answered in my first post to get out of the way

No you didn't. This entire thread has been "I have lots of subscribers on youtube" and then you putting them down. Fuck off, youtube famous doesn't work on 4chan.

>>997927
Read the subject of the original post. I'm not going to hold your hand on this. Other people with better questions deserve my time instead.

>>997925
eat ass bro, but don't forget to tell them how youtube famous you are or they might jump to the more attractive friend of yours. The only reason you didn't feed your narcissism through reddit is because you can't both publicly put yourself out there and put your fans down.

Why did you choose YouTube if you're not interested in "the art" or the fame? There's easier ways to make way more money on the internet.

Not sure if you'll answer this but what niche are you in?

>>997926
It depends on what videos you're trying to make. In my case in the beginning I did all of it myself. I had some people work pro Bono in the early days and after that everyone was paid. If you have money to spend there's always a website to pay for everything you could need actors, voice actors, lighting, you name it.

In some cases you can literally rent people. I do 95% of the work still. I'm too much of a control freak to outright hire people.

>>997928
I'm one of the only people replying to this shitshow. You have all the time to spare as you refresh nonstop.

>>997925
Isn't it around $1 per 1000 views? ...

>>997925

You must be quite insecure - you're on an anonymous imageboard and you won't make with what's probably not that impressive of a number.

Anyway, sage for useless thread devoid of any useful information.

>>997931
If there are easier ways to make money on the Internet I have yet to see it. Maybe we could help eachother on that one. I won't answer what niche I'm in.

I chose youtube because it appeared easy and it turned out to be easy to acquire the skills necessary. I proved myself right. All the skills you need can be developed for free. Not many other fields can offer that.

Also for whatever reason I like how it's structured. Making money on youtube is very straight forward, there's constant feedback and analytics, there's no doubt or ambiguity like normal busessiness. Other than that I don't know how to describe it.

>>997928
What are some entrepreneurial things you are excited about doing?

>>997935
More like $1.32. This number will never let you down when estimating. All bets are off though when it's January or November though. In order to make yt worth while you have to be in the top 1% of channels. Anything lower is a waste of time.

>>997937
low barriers to entry.

What video editing software is good?

What is a good starting camera?

Sound equipment?

>>997941
Thanks for answering my question.

Hey OP good job on making it, and fuck these haters. My question is what quality or characteristics do you feel contribute the most to a person's success

>>997939
1 Raking in and saving as much as possible from youtube before something happens to the site.

2 Developing multiple channels for multiple streams of income. I have two markets I've identified and I'm already moving into the first with huge success. I've barely had it a month and one of my other channels will surpass 100k soon.

3 generating solid dividends

4 After that I'm taking a loan and leveraging my yt dollars to start a firm where other people make me money. Probably consulting or possibly even youtube brand campaigns for major companies. Who knows what I'll end up doing though. I have connections for whatever I do choose. All I know is it has to be in an office building for a company I own. That's the plan.

>>997937
The monetization model of YouTube is straight forward, but I feel like growing a channel is more or less a shit show. If you have entertaining content I'm sure you'll get repeat visitors but it doesn't seem like there's a science to expanding.

I've looked into starting YouTube channels with friends since I'm a boring personality, but I never figured out a niche that would be low enough effort for me to justify it. I might do tutorial videos or something since I have a base understanding of a lot of computer programs and whatnot.

As for easier ways to make money, I guess it depends where your skills lie. If you're an energetic funny person I'm sure YouTube is piss easy, but I've made thousands off of other venues on the internet, just using affiliate programs.

>>997942
Editing software = torrented sony vegas

Camera = canon t5i with a nice lens

Audio = either lav mic or some small/cheap rode mic that mounts on your camera.

>>997948
>Probably consulting or possibly even youtube brand campaigns for major companies


I like the sound of that. I see youtubes growth in relation to the drop in traditional media. People want to see real people not polished hollywood types telling them what is good. Companies will seek those who have the ear of their customer/demographic. Watching traditional media die out is interesting.

I love reading about success stories.

There is a science to expanding. I've done it multiple times. Repeat success means your model is effective.

>>997949
I don't recommend starting with friends. Money ruins friendships and someone always ends up getting purged. I trust people I pay more than friends I've worked with.

I have a shit personality as others here can attest to yet I succeed beyond anyone's imagination. Personality is not required if you choose wisely what to do.

Your software and camera recommendations are passable. I recommend learning some after effects to make great into and out ro material. Also short heavily edited clips always are great. But I've made it this far with 90% Vegas so what do I know. Also there's no need to torrent Vegas you can deduct it on taxes.

People ask legitmate questions, OP gives bullshit answers.
>every fucking time top kek

>>997956
What is bullshit? he's being honest and straight forward.

>>997858
What is 1 subscriber worth in dollars over the lifetime of the average subscription?

>>997953
Your friends will not respect you and will treat the business as an extension of the friendship instead of a serious money making enterprise.

>>997858
Who are you supporting for President?

>>997953
Could you spare any info on the science to expanding? It feels like the hardest part of a channel is to get the initial bit of subscribers at the start before it ramps up. (or at least that's what I've seen from other youtube /biz/ threads)

What's your philosophy/game plan for starting YT channels?

>>997958
I've noticed a very strong correlation between the entire value of a channel and the number of subs. It's about $1 per sub.

My subs don't even factor into my decisions though they only account for 5% of my views.

The $1 figure will change soon. YouTube red recently came out and they want people to actually pay for it. I've worked with people who speak directly to youtube employees. Ad block will be purged on youtube within a year. Theyre working on it right now. Once that happens the money per sub will increase significantly. I actually wish they did that sooner. It's inexcusable how long they waited. But yt wanted to focus on their mobile strategy, so I still am somewhat sympathetic to them.

>>997963
If I switch to my desktop will everyone not throw a hissy fit demanding proof again? Its annoying to take those photos. I can type out more detailed answers there.

>>997953
Yeah that was part of the reason why I never bothered pitching my ideas to friends. Plus my friends are all stoners and would probably back out or half ass the job anyway.

Do you have any tips for expanding? I've thought of a few ways to expand (Just always relating videos to current events, do charity bs for views, follow trends, and always spam videos on social bookmarking sites) but none really seem like they can be done without a lot of luck.

>>997949
What are some affiliate programs you recommend now?

How would you start in this area?

Are you building the sites?

Best place to find affiliates?

>>997965
I'm not the guy demanding proof but my ID does look similar haha

Just switch to your desktop & ignore proof demands

wild guess. do you run one of those "prank" channels?

>>997965
I'd like to read some detailed answers. Would be interesting.

The problem with this site is everyone is given equal consideration. In reality most of us would take one look at the other Anon and not talk to this person based on appearance... like talking to people on a public bus... But one cannot decipher looks through the board so, people become hyper paranoid and think "everyone is a piss covered hobo" general paranoia.

>>997969
>>997971
Noted. this is Op again. Ill begin answering again. Had to eat for a bit.

>>997972
Oh that's cool it keeps my ID. Okay now I'll begin answering.

>>997967
>What are some affiliate programs you recommend now?
There's no best affiliate programs or niche, but dating and health are always profitable if you know what you're doing. Content locking and affiliate programs for products like ClickBank and CJ are good as well.
>How would you start in this area?
Read internet marketing forums, maybe even Hack forums but take everything with a grain of salt as the people giving advice are probably trying to sell you something. Content locking/PPD is a really easy niche to start in and learn the industry.
>Are you building the sites?
Probably less than 50% of what I'm advertising actually goes through a site I built. A lot of times it's just traffic source -> affiliate link
>Best place to find affiliates?
If you actually have a product or service you need to sell, the best way to find affiliates is through word of mouth/networking. Getting onto CPA networks is an amazing way as well but you need to be very stable and profitable. You could go to a forum and make paid posts but the people who push volume don't browse forums unless they want to have a laugh.

What has been the most challenging aspect of monetizing youtube?

I think for me it would be dumbing myself down to the level of the average youtuber. It never ceases to amaze me how fucking terrible some of the top channels and their fanboys are.

>>997964
Is youtube going to stop being free?

>>997952
The trends are clear, ad spending on YouTube is insane right now. The fact is youtube ads are the absolute king in terms of interactivity and conversions. In a lot of ways YouTube channels are butting heads with major cable networks. The ad payouts will only go up with time assuming the site doesn't implode before then. Pretty much I want to do what Martin Shkreli did, start a "serious" business and not give a fuck. YouTube is a means to get the capital to start something more serious.

>>997960
Couldn't have said it better myself. That has been my experience

>>997962
Trump, yes I am serious.

>>997963
I can, I don't want to give the farm away obviously though.

You can pay for ad sense ads for $0.01 to get people to go to your videos from your competitors channels. I loved doing that. Sign up for adwords right now.

Steal your competitors tags from their popular videos, always do this. There are plugins that can help you, or when on a competitors video right click and view the page source, then search for "keywords" you'll find the tags that they used.

My philosophy involves a consistent upload schedule that I never deviate from, upload as frequently, throwing my dignity out the window by pandering as much as possible.

Tagging strategy is as follows:

"video title verbatim" "channel name" "channel url name" as many keywords as possible for the topic. I have plugins for chrome that auto generate keywords that generate maximum views for my channel. They're expensive but worth it.

Always always make custom thumbnails. Always have bright text in it, exaggerated faces, and bright colors. People are attracted to human faces and bright colors.

When I start a channel, I'm in it to win it. I never stop until it succeeds. If that means I have to do underhanded stuff so be it. I've rigged myself to be top rated comments on viral videos in the past to get exposure. I don't have to do that anymore but that is an example of the lengths I had to go.

>>997982
>Trump, yes I am serious.

I think anyone who is successful or wants the opportunity to be would agree.

>>997975
Very interesting. Thank you.

I've seen these sites and the black hat seo stuff... But it looks like it all is geared towards ranking in google. I wonder if affiliate marketing is as big in Russia or other places with Yandex or Baidu ... where that is the larger search engine?

I have a great interest in Affiliate marketing and after a superficial look I think I will take your advice and go deeper. I just kept seeing people claiming it was "dead" ... that or like you said they wanted to sell a product.

>>997966
As Gus Fring said: "Never trust a drug addict." I can tell you've figured it out, but it's worth repeating. Don't work with friends, or you won't have any.

You have all the right ideas for expansion, just be sure to fully think through those strategies. There's a lot more that goes into those strategies than you think. Do not be lazy on this. Build up Twitter and Facebook followings right now. A view from a social media site other than youtube is weighed to be 1000 times more valuable than a normal youtube view. Use this to your advantage. Also see my other post for more advice.

>>997967
I don't recommend affiliate links for youtube. They just won't put out a coherent policy on affiliate links and as to whether they're allowed to be used or not. If you're making as much as I do, it's not worth the risk. I hear though that those Fan Duel and Draft Kings have good affiliate programs though. Lots of money to be made there, among others.

>>997967
Yes I personally build the channels. I do 90% of the work still. I like control too much to delegate. That's a weakness of mine.

>>997967
I have no idea where to find affiliates. Affiliates are the wrong strategy for youtube imo unless you're hyper focused on a niche..

>>997970
If I told you I did would you believe me?

>>997971
Fair point

>>997975
You don't make as much as I do, no one wants your advice. You are nobody.

>>997977
There is no challenging aspect. You click a button and its done. There's nothing to worry about. Very easy.

>>997978
Never

Do people actually click on ads on youtube? I don't know anyone my age (28) or younger that clicks on ads... everyone I know is smart enough and uses adblock or just closes ads. How is money made with the ads when people have adblock installed?

>>997989
It's not about just clicking. If someone watches an ad for more than 15 seconds you get paid. Your friends may not admit it, but they do watch when an iron man trailer is shoved down their throat. I get paid from that. For whatever reason, enough people do click.

>>997988
Have you ever looked into using other people's content? Those Vine compilation videos for example get millions of views a piece. Same with the "Fail" videos and others that are just spliced from existing content.

>>997982
The internet killed the Record/Music industry.

I love seeing YouTube rise. I have been active on youtube since 2006 and have seen it transition. I think they are in good hands by being owned by Google.. But we will as you never know.

>>997990
You said you run other businesses; what's your method for successful marketing of non-youtube related things? It's one thing to get people to click subscribe to filler videos, but how do you get people to be interested in your products?

>>997983
That is the reason. You are 100% correct. I get that some people just aren't cut out for a world system where your value is how productive you can be. Not everyone has potential. In many ways Communism / Socialism is just a reproductive strategy for beta males to try to make it on a world where value is the only value people care about.

I have the ability to succeed. I have nothing to gain from socialism or enforced equality. I want opportunity, not 'fairness.' I love the United States, I don't want equality, I want to push as far as I can into higher and higher percentages inside the "top 1%" as Bernie always says.

>>997987
SEO is just big because everyone wants "passive income" aka
>i work online n sit on the beach makin fb posts of my rolex XD
but its just a waste of time if you're taking the blackhat route. There's plenty of talk about other methods of marketing on all of those forums.

I'm not sure how easy it would be in Russia since the average internet user has less disposable income, but I'm sure there's less competition so maybe it's worth a shot if you're a native speaker.

People claim it's dead because it used to be insanely easy and now it takes creativity/work. You used to be able to make one craigslist post and setup an email auto-responder and wake up the next morning with $200-500.

>>997994
That is the million dollar question isn't it. I'm not qualified to answer, the only thing I've ever majorly succeeded at is what we're discussing right now: YouTube. But then again I haven't been around for very long either. In many ways I am a one trick pony, that's why I'm reading up and working hard to prepare for my inevitable transition.

>>997992
>>997990
Yes, these videos have tons of views.Or videos of "Fails" etc?

It's all other peoples content repackaged and resold. But looks profitable?

>>998001
Alright, thanks for the honest answer; I've been trying to market a product I had produced through advertising to furries, and it's been good enough, but not as explosive as I would've liked, thought I'd ask.

Good on you for what you've done, though; there have been a good few times in my life I've considered the Youtube route, I'm glad somebody worthy has nabbed the opportunity.

>>997992
>>998002

I've only been dimly aware of those. As far as I can tell they operate on the edges of copyright. It's not worth getting involved in that. I notice they always have to keep restarting channels. I don't like having ambiguity when it comes to monetization.

I also don't like being a total leech either. Those channels are cockroaches. I think those channels just get by by hoping that no one will actually chase them down for a legal battle, or they may not even monetize them to avoid copyright woes. Now that is a waste of time.

>>998005
That is a hard thing to do. I recommend infiltrating their community or just starting a website and get it ranked well. But you would know best. Furry supplies, what an interesting field.

For what you're doing I don't recommend youtube advertising or making youtube videos. I've been on both the advertiser and the content producer side, it's not worth your time.

>>998007
That's interesting. It makes perfect sense as they will often have one video of stolen content and not an established channel.

I gather it is in the profitable formula to only have Original Content, and then take your recommendations of giving the customer what they want.

It appears you have had only success with Youtube. But have you had any failures? or some at least something you worked on that you thought would take off but didn't do so well?

Thanks for your answers, they've been real informative.

I'm really good at aggregating different facts/data. What is the feasibility of creating a popular channel that is not original (no skits, pranks, songs, etc), but rather just a list or nicely edited video of facts that is presented nicely? Do you have any channel(s) that follow that sort of format?

Thanks

>>998011
My life has only begun. It's too early to say if YouTube will be my only success. In fact I've found my calling and a lot of confidence has come with it. Since then everything else I've done has succeeded. I haven't been trying my hand at entrepreneurship very long, only a few years.

In the past I tried to start a website but that went nowhere and was never finished, for a while I was just thrashing in the dark trying to start something, anything. I'm also a college dropout.

>>998013
WatchMojo
Top5s
MatthewSantorro

>>998009
What are some of the pitfalls or problems to avoid with YouTube?

I like how you keep control over your business, Felix Dennis in his book talks about the importance of ownership and you seem to preach this which is wise.

Have you had any legal troubles? Or other problems? Very smart in staying hidden... nothing good comes from people finding out about your money.. they just want to steal it.

>>998014
How much money (yours or other people's) went into your initial startup?

>>998013
I don't recommend that field, it's way too saturated, you'll go nowhere, and the CPM's are not so good. Also copyright has wiped out channels and wasted the time of their creators. Even watchmojo has been pulled multiple times.

>>998016
People are parasites, I'm glad you agree on that.

I have had no legal troubles because I'm smart about copyright, unlike >>998013

>>998016
A pitfall is that you often have to work for over a year for free with no guarantee of success. If you aren't in the top 1% of Youtubers it will not be worth your time. I tell everyone who asks, get a real job that has actual health care benefits, job stability, and promise for advancement. You have to be a one man army for this, you have to know how to do small business taxes, marketing, content production, pr, all of it one bundle. It's not for everyone, and you have to be realistic with yourself. Success is extremely unlikely. As time goes in it gets harder and harder to start something on YouTube. There are definitely better opportunities out there that I will be exploring soon

>>998017
$0

>>998014
Good, college is mostly a waste of time and money. Also you are gaining invaluable experience and money while other people your age are wasting money and going nowhere. You are on the right path for sure.

I would only say that you should stay frugal (which you probably are as you sound very sharp and money savvy) but also because after you get older fancy toys are not as interesting. At 21 I wanted a Twin Turbo Supra very bad..but at 32 I couldn't care less.

I think tattoo removal will be big.

Laser hair removal is also profitable.

But, in general business that deal with the public and customers are headaches... I like businesses that sell to other businesses. Something detached from the common person and their endless complaints.

>>998024
>Good, college is mostly a waste of time and money.

Agreed there, though I wish I had spent more time having fun with friends there. College is not worth the money. This is a very lonely job. People who work with you are not your friends. I have to try to get out, otherwise I just stay at home constantly strategizing ways to expand.

>I would only say that you should stay frugal (which you probably are as you sound very sharp and money savvy)

Thank you, that means more than you think. As for saving after taxes I keep probably 90% of what I earn. I'm very cheap and don't need much. I have a strong background in finance, that helps too.

>I like businesses that sell to other businesses. Something detached from the common person and their endless complaints.

I do as well, YouTube is very unstable and unforgiving. I will be trying very hard to move into B2B once my youtube career inevitably comes to its conclusion and I still have decades of my life ahead of me.

>>998024
Also, toxic waste removal or environmental cleanup in China will be a big business. It is already starting. Of course Africa will be the next production/sweatshop wasteland... Maybe that is why the Chinese are buying up the continent.

I want to start a YT channel and have a theme that is pretty much non existent on youtube right now. I'm fairly certain that I'd gain thousands of subscribers and may even go viral (or atleast make frontpage of reddit and possibly some news sites etc) I've had a semi successful youtube account before, but it was years ago and didn't really make money because of copyright shit, it was just popular. This one would be all original content.

One problem though:
I don't want to show my face and possibly even voice simply for the reason that I don't want to be known as a guy from YT who makes his money from YT videos. The only reason I want to make said channel is because I know it has potential to be huge and make $.

I'm aware that not showing your face and voice will be a negative when it comes to youtube but I dunno. I am torn because I really do not want to lose all dignity like you say and pander to the cunts watching like most youtubers do. People like Theradbrad do this shit every video and it actually gets annoying... All those gamer youtubers making jokes aimed at 9 year olds and pretending that they find the jokes funny while making silly noises or screaming... I'm younger than some of these youtubers and could never do that regardless of how much was to be made..

so wat do brah? you reckon I could wing it without showing my face or voice or nah?

>>997927
Can you read? OP has been answering all questions and going in depth. Don't be mad at him for describing things as they are and NOT as you want them to be. You strike me as the kind of person who meets a celebrity and then thinks they are your friend because you watch them throw a ball or in a movie... You do realize the purpose of business is to make money and if that means finding what makes your customers tick and exploiting that for gain then that is great. I applaud OP for his insights and for taking the time to share with us. Now go vote for Bernie Sanders and get a tattoo of a mustache on your index finger.

>>998028
>I want to start a YT channel and have a theme that is pretty much non existent on youtube right now

There may be a reason why it's nonexistent. I don't trust sectors that haven't been validated by visible success. Keep in mind how much you are worth. When you start youtube you have to be prepared to put in at least 20 hours a week for free for up to a year. Can you afford to do that? Are there things you could be doing instead of gambling on an unproven youtube niche?

For nearly all people I recommend starting other businesses, YouTube despite the strategies is still mostly a lottery. With a normal career you get:

Stable pay
Advancement prospects
Health insurance
Among others I can't think of.

I always tell my closest friends who wonder if they should start YT that if they have any reservations whatsoever, I have to tell them that I care about them too much to see them throw their lives away on what is effectively a lottery ticket.

If I won the lottery and was talking about my number picking strategies would you throw away future career potential to chase it? Think long and hard about that.

>I don't want to show my face and possibly even voice simply for the reason that I don't want to be known as a guy from YT who makes his money from YT videos
>Im aware that not showing your face and voice will be a negative when it comes to youtube but I dunno. I am torn because I really do not want to lose all dignity like you say and pander to the cunts watching like most youtubers do. People like Theradbrad do this shit every video and it actually gets annoying... All those gamer youtubers making jokes aimed at 9 year olds and pretending that they find the jokes funny while making silly noises or screaming... I'm younger than some of these youtubers and could never do that regardless of how much was to be made..

Either accept the reality now or you will never make it. I can't name anyone who has made it to any worthwhile level of success without selling out.

>>997858
say I wanted to sell jars of chilli I make but I am an autist with no social skills and if I went up to stores in my area and said "do you want to sell this" they'd just look at me with contempt and say "uh no"

how exactly would I turn this into a business

what do you do when you reach an impasse? just getting 1 person to agree with me on something and cooperate is an ordeal but for people like you it seems to be like breathing, where am I going wrong?

Not saying op is a fraud but he hasn't given away any information that isn't an opinion or easily Google able. If you're waiting for him to give some special sauce to complete your business plan that you'll someday execute then you are wasting your time.

>>998037
I have the opposite view, I think I've said too much. I've encouraged an entire generation of Don Quixote's to charge off hoping for success. I'm not proud about that in hindsight. I tell my closest friends the things I've told you all. It's a very hard game, I don't recommend it.

Im starting a YT channel on gaming
I've always wondered what are the policies on using videos of "memes" like most yt gamers do, cause they don't monetize their videos and their income is solely from patreon/sponsors

I ponder if i should actually go for this game plan, because i wont be showing face, only voice, and visual shit, as you already stated, is key to get the views, and i would only be able to do it through "memes" (at least in the beginning)

Your thoughts?

>>998044
Gaming is a wonderful field. Low barrier of entry and high ad payouts, it also helps that it's fun. And as you pointed out you don't even have to show your face. I've succeeded in gaming and I've helped my friends succeed in there. I believe I'm qualified to talk about this sector, although at the moment it isn't my primary.

You can use memes, just don't use anything from movies or whatnot. Use common sense on that one. Every gamer I've known has made money through adsense not Patreon. You can make money gaming without even having to sell your soul to a MCN. If I were you I'd do more research on this. Patreon is a nice site but they require your SSN and they were recently hacked. I wouldn't want to get involved in that. Also the feds will be clamping down on them soon (in many ways they've already begun.)

Are you a funny person? Can you use editing to make yourself a funny person? Do you have the time? Are there better things you could be doing? Will this hurt your career prospects in the future if YouTube doesn't pan out?

These are very important questions to answer.

>>998053
>sell your soul to a MCN
Can you expand on MCN's? Are you a part of one? Pros/cons in your eyes?

>>998034
>I don't trust sectors that haven't been validated by visible success.
That's pretty good way to ensure success if you already have a stable base so to speak but yeah, I can't be certain but I'm confident in my pattern recognition and trend spotting abilities. I've had videos go somewhat viral before that I had made purposefully for that reason.

Honestly, the only thing stopping me is the ''selling out'' part. I just don't know if I have it in me to pander to viewers the way most youtubers do and put on a youtube persona. Cheers for the advice though m8.

>>998053

The answear for the first two questions is yeah, and i actually have a proficiency on editing, and im on the beginning of college so i have plenty of time...
My country is on a recession, so people aren't hiring for internships so this is actually my best chance of getting money on a short run.

Showing my face is actually the only thing that could hurt future career prospects

Also on the memes issue: Can someone get my videos down if i monetize a video thats contains a part of their video that the internet considers a meme? Also, is there legal issues on using memes of celebrities? There's this guy on youtube that does this but he does not monetize his videos, and earns solely on sponsors and third party advertisers. His channel is on the 1.3 million follower mark.

>>998063
There are no pros in my view.
YouTube only lets a channel have 55% of the revenue. Period. There is no way around this, any MCN claiming they can get you more money is lying.

The adsense network is the strongest ad network on the internet. Thinking a MCN can compete with this and get you better CPMs is lunacy.

MCNs take your money, their entire business model is predicated on just collecting a percentage off of a multitude of channels. You'd be better off reinvesting that money in yourself. If a MCN was so helpful why is that they always desperately message you to join up. If it were the other way around it would be the youtuber looking to join.

Often times I've found that MCN's are run by suits that know even less about YouTube than the people they're signing up.

I've had friends who made the unfortunate mistake of joining them, you get apathetic account managers, and in some cases late payments. One friend of mine had to go through a 3 month long email battle to get his payments. Adsense never misses a payment.

RayWilliamJohnson and PewDiePie both have stated that MCN's are a waste of time, and I have yet to see a MCN be responsible for a youtubers rise to fame. I've seen them sign on people after the fact, but never create a star. You're better off saving the money and paying a consultant if you really want help. There are videos on YouTube you can search up recounting horror stories and giving you reasons not to join. The ones I've just listed are all from personal experience. That being said I personally have never joined a MCN.

>>998068
To each his own, even my first channel was started in a field where I saw others doing extremely well.

>>997946
Thank you, it's appreciated. If someone can stick with a project for more than 2 months I can tell they have potential. It also helps if they've succeeded in the past, no matter how small.

I personally was driven to do what I do because I like accumulating money. Not so much spending. I also realized early on that if I didn't succeed no one would give a shit about me. In many ways men are human doings, not human beings. If you're not doing something you are nothing.

You either have a drive or you dont, but being idealistic and naive will out weigh any drive you may have.

What do you do to fight the depression?

Any advice on gaining traction?

Currently I'm in a broad niche, copywriting catchy titles, have short videos, high production values, an upbeat personality, I ask for subs/likes and I post daily.

I don't show my face though and I'm only at 10k subs in 8 months.

Considering the main source of income on YT is ads, how do you feel about alot of people using adblock?

>>998099
What field are we talking about?

>>998102
I make league of legends videos. I've posted them on reddit a few times with moderate success but that's about it.

>>997858
high six figures or low six figures?

>>997858
If "money" is your passion, what do you spend it on?
do you consider "money" to be the measure of a person's worth?
you mentioned you don't even care to have buy a nice car. do you travel a lot?
do you ever feel soulless that your "passion" is "money"?

>>997858
Are you in your garage?

i have a small gaming channel, 45 subs average around 500 views per video, big question is, how can I reduce the amount of time editing. When I look at the big shitlords some release multiple videos a day. How could I achieve something like this without anyone else?

You sound just like me except I'm a trader and have never attempted to be a youtube weirdo even though I've considered doing something with gayming either on twitch or jewtube. I've been in the top few hundred players for a few esports games and I'm funny/weird enough. The only thing that stopped me was that I didn't need to because I inherited a shitload of money and doubled it last year. I wasn't quite ready to sell my soul/dignity away, but I'm starting to give less fucks and it could be fun.

1) How old are you?

2) I imagine getting started is the hardest part. Like you said, it's not worth it unless you're in the top 1%. All of the views go to the top content. How do you get started/get your name out? With gayming, I think it'd be easy enough for me to join a pro team, so I'm thinking that's a way in, but I wanted to see what else you'd suggest.

3) What are some of the biggest rookie mistakes?

4) This is the least important question, but what would you recommend for a legit setup/getting started with video editing? I've never dipped my toes into video editing software.

>>997858

Cool thread OP.

Thanks for sharing everything.

I'm curious, are you single? kids?

I ask, because for me, a loving wife and kids are more important than becoming rich.

Have you read any (business) books before starting this career?
or did you just give it a shot and see where it'd end up?

>>998098
I don't get depressed anymore. Any personal problems I once had are gone as now I don't need to rely on anyone else. Depression isn't always a winnable fight, try to persevere. That's not much but I can't offer you any answers that you can't find yourself.

>>998099
To me it sounds like you're already on the right track if you have that many subs. I always say the first 10k is everything, once you surpass that you can only go up. Keep uploading consistently and try to start a few inside jokes. Make sure your thumbnails are the absolute best you can be. Don't forget ALL CAPS titles. That's all I can say.

>>998101
I don't like it at all, but adblock's time will come, as I mentioned in a previous post. The future on that front looks promising.

>>998116
multi-six figures

>>998117
As they said in breaking bad: "I'm in the Empire Business." I create, I lead, and organize. That is worth to me than most things that money can buy. However, I do it almost entirely for the money. Once you have people be obsequious to you just because of your accomplishments it will forever change your perspective on life.

>do you consider "money" to be the measure of a person's worth?
Yes, though I don't know why you put money in quotes. Money is just a representation of value. People who are successful and not beggar parasites are infinitely more interesting to me than your average person. I care about people who can execute ideas, succeed and innovate, I don't waste any time on people who can't. So yes.

>you mentioned you don't even care to have buy a nice car. do you travel a lot?

I never travel

>do you ever feel soulless that your "passion" is "money"?
Never, my passion is building empires and enjoying the respect from people that money brings, and often it is genuine respect. You are suddenly a much more interesting person to people once you've done something great. You're on the wrong board if you don't inherently enjoy the pursuit of wealth.

>>998120
No

>>998172
Either pay people to edit or redouble your efforts. You have to consistently and frequently upload. If you can't do this cut your losses now.


>You sound just like me except I'm a trader and have never attempted to be a youtube weirdo

It's possible we are. I took a long hard look at trading and didn't deem it a good way to secure good returns. I wish you success in that, most people fail.

>The only thing that stopped me was that I didn't need to because I inherited a shitload of money. I'm starting to give less fucks and it could be fun.

I know that mentality. Pandering isn't so bad after a while, you tube can be very rewarding place to succeed in. Twitch as well. I'm in line to inherit money but that will be a long time from now. Because of this I knew I had to make my own way. If you're set do what you like, keep in mind there are other potential startups.

>How old are you?

I'm 23

> I imagine getting started is the hardest part.

It is by far, the second hardest part is maintaining the push for years on end. if you pass 10k subscribers you have a much higher chance of success. My personal rule is I don't take anyone under 10k seriously, they are unproven.

> think it'd be easy enough for me to join a pro team, so I'm thinking that's a way in

Any leg up is crucial in gaming, keep in mind that most gaming followings are entirely personality based. Decide if you can develop a cult of personality. It's actually not as hard as you'd imagine. I think you'd do well from what little I've seen of you.

>What are some of the biggest rookie mistakes?

Not uploading consistently, not biting the bullet and selling out, not ambulance chasing current topics, wasting time begging for subscribers is by far the worst mistake I've seen people make.

Start learning editing now. It will take years. Critically watch other people's editing styles and imitate them. Also I use Sony Vegas and a little bit of after effects.

>>998799
Did you have a job/career prior to this?

>>998699
>Cool thread OP.

Thank you, I'll be sure to bring it to the white house.

>Thanks for sharing everything.
You're welcome. I appreciate your appreciation, it's more than most people here could muster. Most, but not all.

>I'm curious, are you single? kids?
I am single and I do not plan to marry. By far the most conniving people I've been around are the women who were in my life. They think every single second of every single day of ways to insert themselves into your life to get their hands on what took some of the best years of my life and the finest fruits of my labor. Money is so incredibly hard to accumulate and save in the United States and in Europe. I will not lose everything I've accomplished in divorce to someone who's only achievement was winning the genetic lottery.


>I ask, because for me, a loving wife and kids are more important than becoming rich.

For me it is the opposite, and for me those things are only possible if I am successful. Women are the most pragmatic people you will ever interact with. They do not love you if you have nothing to offer them. If you have something to offer they will convince themselves that they love you. If you haven't done something they think they can be parasitic off, you will not register on their radar. In my opinion women are the lowest pursuits someone can have, it also is an indicator to me that if someone does succeed, they won't for long and the fruits of their labor will only be used to pay for women who never had to assume any of the risk in accumulating it in the first place.

>>998720
I have not read any business books that are the type you'd see in book stores. I have a strong background in political science and finance, I have read books on those topics when I was in University. But everything to do with my current job is entirely the result of learning on my own by doing. So yes, I did just give it a shot, and took what was probably a very stupid risk.

Someone bought a 100,000 subscriber plaque on ebay as a collector piece and decided to be a cunt on /biz/ today. Move along, everyone.

>>998810
Good job man, definitely risky but you miss all the shots you don't take.

>>998087
>In many ways men are human doings, not human beings. If you're not doing something you are nothing.

words of wisdom
that quote is probably the best thing i've seen on 4chan in years

>>998811
>>998827
I'm sure it was hilarious for op as well

he acted like a total cunt and yet people still took him seriously because of his plaque

op if you read this, take your fake plaque on walkabout and see who buys it then come back and share

Congrats OP. With 100K subscribers you make many multiple times more money than someone with over a million subscribers.

http://www.businessinsider.com/money-youtube-stars-actually-make-2014-2

>Or, perhaps, you're a lying sack of shit.

>>998840
I can provide more proof just to see you desperately try to do damage control when you're proven wrong. Where did I get the letter from then?

>>998787
that's what I needed to hear, thank you

someone is egooooo tripping ~
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remember guys, its nice to have friends so you can share your accomplishments with other than random people on a top kek japanese forum

You sold me OP when you talked about the women.
The video spot here is interesting. Its a bit of a long spot, but I've found it very interesting.
http://www.seductivereasoning.com/

If you're planning to launch a channel, how do you test your content before going live?

Let's say you want to do a combined thing like videogames and Politics b/c that's you. Would a daily with vidya and a sunday political rant be an appropriate release schedule.

what youtube niche will make me money.

Did you create an LLC before you got started? Did you do any of that incorporating in Delaware as the rights holder with a subordinate pass through entity in your home state to handle the accounts?

Since your income is not location based, have you thought of moving to a zero income tax state? Or even move to another country?

>>997858
I'll give this a shot.

I am a pretty good driver. I notice things about vehicle performance that only professionals notice. I'm not a pro racer, but I do visit the track often. I want to make a car related show on youtube, and another car related show for television (perhaps the youtube show is based off of or visa-versa).

I've tried starting this in the past and I could never get subscribers even though people liked the concept. Additionally, how do I get support to help me film productions? I can't do everything, and hosts expect to be paid, but I can't pay someone if I'm not being paid either.

Advice?

Srs question, I know for a fact that youtube cheats its advertisers. Dont ask me how i know this. How can profit of this?? Is it illegal? To not disclose this information even if i dont have any financial ties to anyone? Ive told some close normie friends and even they couldnt belive it.

Hi OP, thanks for taking your time to answer some of our questions. My only question would be, at how many views/subscribers should I strive for IN THE BEGINNING to start making a living off youtube?

Making a decent living in my city would be $2K+ so I'd just like what milestone I'd need to reach in order to do so. I'm already aware of how to grow, channel niche, upload schedule. Right now I'm just accumulating income to get the equipment and get started, that's really all I need to succeed.

Thanks again for your time.

>>997982
I love your videos Dangerdolan.

It the youtube voice thing real? Like speaking a certain way for youtube videos?

>>997858
I want to start a youtube channel. There is some guy that has some good tutorials, Video Creators. Do you know him? I'll be following his tips and advices.

My idea is to make a top-something channel. The public is generic and I think it's a good way to go. I wouldn't mind sponsoring some vids on facebook.

Would you mind giving me some tips on how to start, and then how to properly monetize the channel?

>>999085
Also, how do you get your first subscribers and how do you go past the 100th sub, or the 1000th sub?

>>999085
>My idea is to make a top-something channel

Stopped reading right there. You're not going to make it.

Hey OP I got something for yo-

*FART*

>>999015
To make $2,000 a month from youtube you would need to get 1.8 million to 2 million views every month. This view count typically corresponds with 60k and above subscriber levels.

>>998939
I started an LLC later on into my career. I registered in my own state to avoid the headaches.

>>998920
It could work out that way. Sunday is a good day to release. There are plugins that can tell you optimal times to upload. As for video games and politics that is entirely up to luck as to whether that would work out.

>>998956
You could make a killing doing that and shilling auto parts or whatever. In fact success is improbable. But you have a good gameplan, better than most I've seen on this thread. I encourage you to look into it. You could make a killing talking about sponsored car products with high margins.

Hire a consultant to get yourself started if you are serious. You will need starting capital and there will be no guarantee of success. You will need to spend money in the beginning for the equipment. Do some models and figure out the absolute cheapest way to produce the videos while leveraging your own skills for free.

>>999168
so you'd only suggest gaming channels? And how do you get your first subs?

>>998939
Not OP but I can shed some light on incorporating:

There's no point in making an LLC in Delaware. Only if you have an incorporation with realistic plans on taking in venture capital funds or an IPO. Anything else is just a waste of time and money.

The only reason I'd ever register out of state with an LLC is Nevada and that's only for specific instances where I want to obscure certain aspects from public (and IRS) view.

>>999168
>>999196
Do yo ureally think a top-something channel wouldn't make it? And what if the target public was more specific, like history related tops, or spook related tops?

Please do tell me if I'm wrong, but isn't the most critical part of your channel the first couple of thousand subs? Can you properly grow with facebook ads? Really, how can you get your content to be known, how can you get people to see your content when you first start?

OP,

Ignore all the haters on here - they are just mad you are making more money than them.

That said, you seem like a very astute man, and I like for you to post the link to your channel.

Truthfully - and this may sound a little weird - I want to study your videos.

You sound and probably look like a cunt

>>999202
They obviously make money but that niche is very over saturated because it's such an easy niche to break into. There's also the trouble of copyright issues that you'll probably run into

>>999286
And when I say copyright I mean any images/videos you'll include in your video. If you just have them staring at a blank screen nobody will watch it, and open use graphics are almost always shit.

>>999300
Hmm, that makes sense.
I am a native spanish speaker though, what if I did the channel in spanish? I don't think it's really saturated for us spics

>>999316
And idk, if I focus it on history related stuff there shouldnt necessarily be any problems with copyright

is this thread over is op the cunt gone?

>multi-six figures
Oh wow that's pretty coo-
>only talking about subscriptions

I mean yeah that's great and all but that still doesn't net you that much bank

Thread is kill.

>>999362
I was talking about money, try again.

AvE?

OP. How do I market a youtube video? Other than the tags. Facebook is completely off my radar in terms of marketing. Should I get into it? Where do you think all the teens are? Is twitter marekting even possible?

>>999383
OP can you please, please give some suggestions on what to make a channel about. I just want the fucking money. What can I do to get it?

>>999413
I'm not OP but he shouldn't (and judging by his responses won't) spoon feed you on content.

Odds are really high that if you don't come up with the idea yourself you won't be engaged enough to follow through with any success.

It's not hard to survey what works and find a niche you feel you can fill. Do some research.

>>999413
>I just want the fucking money.
You really aren't going to make it. I rest my case.

I have a million easy ideas but I don't give away things for free to people who have done nothing for me in return.

Don't ask again.

>>999415
I couldn't have said it any better. Thank you.

>>999423
Is there anything I can do to get one of your ideas now?

>>999415
It depends. I want the money because I want to achieve an economic independence, and I wouldn't mind committing to something that I don't particularily like if that's what's needed. But that doesn't mean I would JUST do it for the money. I wouldn't mind going for something related with politics or history.

I don't know, I just want OP to guide me on this.

>>999437
> I wouldn't mind going for something related with politics or history.

That will never work on youtube. Top content is mindless self indulgence. Stupid six second vines, grown men (or more usually women) playing video games and acting like children and so on. No one wants anything remotely important.

With that being said you can make money with those topics by running a podcast. You can charge sponsors on average $180 for every 1,000 listeners. There are history/philosophy/religion podcasts that do very well.

>>998847
I said I have hundreds of thousands of subscribers. The only award I have is for 100k. I surpassed that a long time ago. Be sure to know what you're talking about before making a fool out of yourself.

>What are brand deals, paid shoutouts, and having multiple channels for multiple streams of income. The only way to make money is adsense!!!!!

You are really dense.

>>999438
I guess...
But I don't know. I don't want to become a personality at all. I just want to do something that lets me to grow up, economically. I don't want to be, as you said, mindless and self indulgent.

Do you think gaming does it, really? Like, just having an enthusiastic voice and making stupid and superfluous comments to make some people laugh as they watch me play a videogame?

I mean, how can you even get passionate about that? As you and OP said, if I'm in just for the money then I won't make it. But how can I be for something else than money creating some content that it can be considered good it would still be banal and irrelevant?

>>999454
I'd agree with OP that video games are probably the fastest route. For some reason Millennials can't get enough of watching other people do something they can just as easily do themselves.

Speaking of which OP: earlier in this thread you said you hired people so you wouldn't have to be in front of the camera. Did you do the same when you dabbled in gaming or did you play the games/do the commentary yourself?

>>999461
In no way am I saying that gaming is the only route. I personally am a fan but I've made my own in other fields multiple times. It's important to understand that. I'm tired and probably answer your other questions tomorrow assuming this thread hasn't been pruned by then.

>>999461
I'll start thinking about gaming, then

>>999464
Will you answer my questions tomorrow if I start asking you more serious stuff and stop begging for you to help me find a niche?

What do you think about philanthrophy? Do you donate to charities?

>>999475
Sure, take some time to think about good ones. So far you have 2 strikes. We'll speak again tomorrow.

Where do you network? Online or RL?
When you are hiring someone to produce content for you, what does their portfolio have to be like?
Do you sponsor the creation of original music for your content?

>>999489
I'm off to bed as well OP. Let me clear my mind and think of something. Good night

>>997881
>>997883
>>997886
>>997915
>>997924
>>997928
Why the fuck are you even here? This is the shittiest thread I have ever seen.

/v/ here, btw.

>>997957
He's being condescending and vague. Stop brown-nosing.

Hello! I have a few quick questions for you, concise answers are fine. I run a decently popular channel myself, and it's hard to find advice from people who aren't dumbasses with 1,000 subs who think they know jack shit.

1. Do you self-advertise anywhere (or perhaps when first starting out)
2. I have a popular gaming channel. Considering starting a second vlogging channel as well (have a quality camera/mic, and am entertaining). However, I'm quite interested in politics & economics. Would talking about these things on the vlogging channel turn away viewers, or do you think it would help bring in a niche of followers? I'm a Libertarian, so in the minority, most likely. Considering whether or not politics should be talked about in the vlogging channel; my gut says yes (since it's what I'm interested in).
3. What niches do you think are under-exploited right now? I'm fairly certain that gaming, beauty/makeup, and vlogging are fairly saturated.

>>999527
Not OP but..

>2. politics

Satire. Only satire.

Find your demographic, the age, the sex, etc. Then pander to their sense of entitlement and disillusionment. Finish each video with a monologue of unifying overtones and then make a new video ASAP.

It worked for russell brand, he got 1million youtube subscribers in a year.

>>999533
To be fair, Russell Brand was a famous actor, which spurred his numbers. I suspect that if he wasn't already famous, his pseudo-intellectual incoherent ramblings would be lost in the sea of idiots all vying for attention.

How do you feel about streaming?
To your knowledge does Twitch compare at all to Youtube in terms of revenue?

>>997858
nice thread op, seeing threads like that once in a couple of months means that i am not wasting my time by reading this board
which brings me to this question, why do you come to 4chan?

>>999495
>Do you sponsor the creation of original music for your content?

This. I want to know how you choose your music (assuming you have music.) Do you ever use trendy music on your videos and if you do, do you sponsor the artist? Whats the process?

>>999533
Liberals don't seek out political things. They get their fix of gibs me dat and muh oppression from their circle of friends.

The cult-like followings of politics are always around conservatives, libertarians, gun nuts and anarchists. You know the people who can't circle jerk about their ideas with everyone they meet at school.

You'll get way more views calling Obama a Muslim than you will saying we need more funding for schools.

>>999571
Not OP but I can speak to this a bit as someone who has produced successful podcasts.

Licensing for music is very expensive. Even someone who is making no profit would have to pay $300 a year (or so) to play music for the intro/outro to their podcast. If you're making thousands you'll have to pay considerably more. And if you don't it's the fastest way to get your content yanked from youtube.

It's why you see so many people using EDM on gamer videos. With the exception of the really famous artists you can use those mostly unabated.

But.... that also means you have to use shitty and annoying rave music for your videos.

>>999582
I've always noticed that Libertarians/Anachists had a surprisingly strong presence online relative to IRL. That's an interesting analysis, thank you.

>>999585
It's because they both define their entire identity by their political leanings. No one else really does that.

That's not to say you can't have the same success with liberal ideas. Vegans for example can't get enough of themselves/each other. You could run a vegan channel and have a way bigger audience than you would running a channel that caters to political issues that vegans most likely support.

Hey OP! Currently graduated in banking &finance in my shittier country and I feel like my knowledge isn't enough to start something on my own (despite the fact that I was in top 20). I hate working for someone but I know It is the easiest way to get some exp before starting a business on your own. If you'd have to chose between getting a master degree somewhere in Europe for free (Denmark/Germany/Sweeden) or do the self-studying "magic" using online courses, what would you chose? Also if you could suggest some good books/articles what would they be? Thanks in advance! Also glad you made it so far being only 23yo that is inspiring!

>>997922
dude, that depends.
60k viewers from where? USA?
rates are different for each viewer location for example

OP, not the most interesting question but would you consider channels like Video Creators and Creator Academy to be good?

>>999444
Sorry, kid, but it's pretty evident that you're grossly exaggerating your revenues in order to sound more impressive to a bunch of ignorant 12 year olds.

I suspect that you actually take home something in the modest 5-figure range, net of expenses. You make about the same as an office worker or a highly skilled plumber, at best. Maybe your work is more fund, maybe not. But no, you're not getting rich off it.

>>999444
Sorry, kid, but it's pretty evident that you're grossly exaggerating your revenues in order to sound more impressive to a bunch of ignorant 12 year olds.

I suspect that you actually take home something in the modest 5-figure range, net of expenses. You make about the same as an office worker or a highly skilled plumber, at best. Maybe your work is more fun, maybe not. But no, you're not getting rich off it.

>>1000170
>>1000175

LOL listen to this damage control. You've already been proven wrong, now you're doubling down. I love it. Believe whatever you want. In the meantime enjoy your modest 5 figure range salary, net of expenses, Sorry, pops. :^)

>>1000184

That might be true but you never addressed >>999171

>>1000184

Plz bby

>>999527

>>1000184
>You've already been proven wrong
"Proven wrong"? I haven't seen any posted proof of revenues, let along take-home earnings.

What we do have is an analysis by businessinsider.com that says that someone with one million subscribers likely earns a low 5-figure income (>>998847). That analysis is pretty detailed and looks awfully reliable to me.

So, should we believe OP who makes unsubstantiated claims, provides no proof, and can't refute posted evidence? Or should we believe the financial journalists who investigated and analyzed the economics of YouTube content providers?

Everyone here is free to believe what they want, and to be as gullible as they wish. But if we're sticking by who was "proven wrong," then its clear that OP is a liar.

>>999495
I network completely online or tap people that my family know whenever I need something serious. Such as when I need to retain a lawyer, etc.

I've only looked at portfolios for video editing and voice overs. Generally speaking you can tell if someone is good at VA just by listening
to them once. Also the sites I use have robust rating systems.

>>999461
Yes

>>999478
Never, the government takes 40% of what I own at the end of the day and they pay out so much in welfare that they should have solved the problem already. I owe nothing else so long as I'm taxed that high.

>>999500
You have less of a reason to be here. I'm not surprised you're from /v/. You're not going to make it.

>>999527
Congratulations on your success. I'm sure you know what it's like. I do self advertise, I did sponsored FB posts with limited success. I've used bots for twitter marketing with moderate success. I've paid for shoutouts with huge success, and I've used adwords campaigns on YT also for huge success.

Don't bother with vlogs unless you think you can keep that interesting and help develop your cult of personality. I'd avoid politics. But if that's all you know how to talk about it then you don't really have a choice. Good luck. The one thing I won't do is give out niches for free. Sorry this board hasn't treated me well so I see no reason to give away anything for free.

>>999561
I love everything about streaming. I know a lot about Twitch vs YT Successful streamers actually make more than Yters. I would give that sector a shot, there's still a lot of potential if you have the talent. Get used to editing together funny moments montages. Good luck.

>>999566
Good question, I realize it wasn't a good idea in hindsight. The questions were underwhelming and a lot of people lost their temper at the sight of a moderately successful person, despite the fact they hang out on a business board while constantly whining about how they haven't gone anywhere while asking for free advice.

>>999571
I have, albeit very rarely. If you look hard enough there are excellent royalty free songs out there, and no I'm not talking about Kevin McLeod shit.

>>999654
Degree any day, the returns are far more consistent than taking stupid risks like I did just because college bored me. There are no good books to read as to how to get success. If you have an individual problem, google it, other than that no book will help you at all. Thank you for your kind words>

>>1000008
Those two channels have no idea what they're talking about. I don't use any of their advice. Take it from me, assuming you value my opinion.

>>997858
>The areas I'm strongest in are youtube, finance, and entrepreneurship

basically you are an expert in imageboarding and camwhoring. wooow what a genius.

>>1000229
And yet I have hundreds of people clamoring for a shot at getting my advice. Your envy is palpable. My value is proven to people, that's why this thread has been so successful, like myself. Stop wasting people's time so that people who are willing to listen and learn get a shot.

>>1000232
>has been so successful, like myself.

you are not successful you are just a jerk who thinks he is special. once your prime pass you will be flipping burgers at mcdonalds because you didn't develop any useful skills in your life.

>>1000232
dude chill, you do youtube videos, you're not succesful you don't even have a million subs. Investment Bankers and anyone who works in S.T.E.M. still makes moore than you.

>>1000246
Once my "prime pass" I will have saved hundreds of thousands or possibly millions of dollars because I save 90% of what I take in. I will either live like a king off of the dividends from that or start another venture.

In the meantime you will spend your time here, getting mad at anytime you see someone who has taken life by the reigns and not wasted it. Believe what you want though, I get that mediocritiy requires a lot of coping in order to not want to kill yourself.

>>1000247

Well,

>>997878
>>997946
>>997952
>>998005
>>998011
>>998024
>>998036
>>998699
>>998816
>>998905
>>999204
>>999527
>>999654

All think can tell I am successful and have a lot to offer them. I'll take their view on it over the one of a bitter complainer. There are people who make more than me, I still make more than 90% of the people in this country, probably more I'm not up to date on the latest stats. Once you make more than I do (multi-six figures) feel free to complain, until then cry somewhere else.

>>1000263
op let's say I want to start my own channel and start a show...

should I tried to monetize it from the get go or wait of item pick up.

I have a stupid trump video that I edited my self not even funny or interesting and that gave me 2k subscribers.

I am starting to wonder if I can cut the cheese on YouTube

>>997964
Sup vegan gains....

>>1000269
I think I've seen your channel. There's a good chance anyways. I watch a lot of trump edits. Send me a link and if it's funny I'll give you all the advice you could want. Within reason.

>>997964
>Ad block will be purged on youtube within a year.

people actually believe this

top kek

>>1000263
>Once you make more than I do (multi-six figures) feel free to complain, until then cry somewhere else.

well I am already retired at 31 and I am pretty sure I can make more money with my investments in one day than doing stupid videos in youtube for cents in one year. do 8 figures then come and talk to me.

Whats your philosophy, anon? You sound like a Randian.

Also, what are your favorite books?

>>1000273
I've spoken to people in the know. YouTube is working on this right now as we speak. It is likely they will take a similar approach to what Hulu did with adblock.

Think about it, why would they launch YouTube red, a service where you pay to remove advertisements and then not clamp down on adblock? They want to sell YouTube red. Wait and see.

>>1000263
>I will have saved hundreds of thousands or possibly millions of dollars
Why are you roleplaying? While you may indeed operate or work for a moderately popular YouTube channel, the fact is you don't make very much money.

You're not wealthy, you'll never be wealthy, and lying about your earning is reprehensible.

I'm sure its an interesting job, and had you been willing to discuss it, this might have been an interesting thread. Instead, you tried to make it about you and your fake money and fake success. Pathetic.

>>1000279
New adblockers will be invented.

>>1000283
>this might have been an interesting thread

I agree with you. This is a shit thread. This person is just begging for attention.

>>1000287
Leave if it's so bad and leave the space for people who are willing to learn. I don't care about what you think about how I deal with complainers and morons. I've spent half this time meticulously debunking morons who project their own insecurities, if they had asked more and whined less this would have been fine.

>>1000294
I can do what I want. This board doesn't belong to you.

>>1000294
Also, you shit the thread up because you weren't happy with the questions that were asked?

Do you just like playing in shit? Did you have fun over the last day spending time making this terrible thread? Do you feel better about how much money you make now?

>>1000300
Believe me I don't want this board. The caliber of discussion here has been absolutely atrocious. People like you are exactly the reason why. As I've said, this place is the blind leading the blind.

>>1000303
I don't pretend to be nice to people who feel entitled to free things, have never accomplished anything thing in their lives and are useless complainers. I don't filter myself for anyone, especially not ungrateful idiots like you.

>>1000304
Low quality projecting.

>>1000304
>have never accomplished anything thing in their lives

>is extremely proud at the fact that they've made money helping advertisers reach an audience

you've really accomplished a lot in life

>>1000304
>Believe me I don't want this board. The caliber of discussion here has been absolutely atrocious.
because we are serious investors sharing useful knowledge, not self centered kids doing stupid "business models" and teaching we should use google for everything. so fuck off and dont come back.

HowToBasic

>>1000330
>because we are serious investors sharing useful knowledge

Hahaha I can't believe I'm reading this. Let's take a look at some of the top threads going on right now:

>Can /biz/ help me with my accounting homework?

>What is an ISA? i gather its some sort of investment thing. But looking at these websites i still dont understand it.

>What to Do With Spare Time?

>How do you put mental over pussy? I've lost so much money to thots. 13,000$ on drinks.

>Anyone here play around with daily fantasy? I just started, only play NFL because it's the only sport I follow. Any tips? Strategies? anyone won any decent money?

I rest my case.

I hope you have other marketable skills, because with youtube red you're gonna need a job.

>>1000347
YouTube red means I make even more money. What kind of question is that.

>>1000348
Youtube red means people are going to find a new video service.

>>1000343

Still more relevant than this thread. Fuck off.

>>1000343
yeah those are in the same category as this thread. we call them junk/retard threads.
Go to the robinhood or import threads maybe you can follow the conversation there... in case you cant, use google don't waste our time.

Not sure if this was asked, but what is the working formula for successful video?

>Intro
What style of intro is the best? Short types or longer ones?
>content
>sellout
I guess you thank your subs and viewers here?
fb link? google+ link? Twitter link?
>outro?
Simple outro video with animated channel logo?

>>1000354
Such as? Even blip.tv shut down recently. No compettitor exists, and that's assuming youtube red hurts youtube. It certainly does not. People pay for services, they pay for netflix, they pay for ad-free hulu. Most YouTuber users if you look at the data still don't even know about adblock. Adblock users are still in the minority. YouTube red means ad free experience and higher quality content, it certainly doesn't mean that people are going to abandon the largest video site in the world. I completely disagree with you on this point. YouTube red has already launched and surprise surprise everything is completely fine.

>>1000368
Locking your videos behind a paywall will not help you, it will hurt you.

>>1000330
You're pride and joy is a thread about an app for amateur traders trying to grow their $50 portfolios. I rest my case. I won't be addressing you again, you're not worth my time.

>>1000372
YouTube red is not a paywall it's a service you can buy to improve your mobile viewing experience, access certain exclusive content, and to remove ads sitewide. As I've said, it's launched, people are fine with it, the site is still growing.

>>1000367
Also, do you take viewer's advice(such as the audio wasnt loud, the new video style isnt good etc) or do you predict what customers want?

>>1000372
You have literally no idea how Youtube Red works. dumbass.

>>1000380
Both

how do you get paid with youtube red if there are no ads?

>>1000484
They divy up the watch time and depending on how much time a youtube red user spends watching your video, you get a certain percentage of their $9.99 a month subscription fee. So you are paid proportionally.

>>1000489
so this could end up hurting some people if they get a certain amount of viewers that exceed the percentage of RED?

hope I said that right. like you're taking a risk, losing viewers if you went to red if your viewers made you enough money that is more than what reds percentage gives you, right?

great thread btw

>>1000497
Thank you.

There was some speculation hat it would hurt people, while others (myself included) have come to the conclusion that youtube red is better than adsense based revenue. Only top tier youtubers like PewDiePie make content for YouTube red so for the most part switching to YouTube red isn't part of the equation. People who have paid for YouTube red still browse the site for free, it's just at the end of each day the site tallies their watch time across all the videos they watch, and then awards a portion of their $9.99 subscription payment to each channel they watch. So let's say they watch:

My videos for 5% of their views
Pewdiepie for 30%
Smosh for 20%
etc

I would get 5% of their $9.99 payment. This is also determined by watch time, not views. So if they watch one of my videos for an hour but pewdiepie for 30 seconds. I would get 1000x the pay pewdiepie would recieve.

>>1000497
No, doesn't work like that. Youtube Red is so much more revenue per user (compared to advertisements) that even if you get the smallest sliver of the "pie", it's still way more than before -- per subscriber or view.

And, like always, the non-Red viewers payout money at a lesser rate, but the same rate as before.

>>997900

I know the type of videos you're talking about, and while I respect you for making money off it, it seems more soul-crushing than a 9-5 and devoid of any fulfillment.

>>1000510
>>1000511
I think I see now. a per red subscriber percentage could really add up. thanks.

I think I'll wait on it now until I can get a following, then subdivide my brand to paid red channel and regular free adsense channel. obviously I can't use the same content completely, but I'm seeing that multiple channels is a good step.


thanks.

should copyright or trademark my channel/brand name early on or until I have enough subscribers?

at this point I can't even monetize since I've just started and I think you need 1000 subs before you can monetize.

Congrats OP, you are literally one of millions of people who have subscribers. It doesn't make you an entrepreneur, a businessman sure, but not an entrepreneur.

>>1000551
Copyrighting it is not worth the effort, if someone does steal your name it's not really enforcable without a hassle. I'd only do that if you reached PewDiePie leves. Also you can monetize from day 1, anyone can monetize with an adsense account now. There are almost no restrictions.

>>1000562
>from day 1
seriously? I look at the channel manager and it says I have to wait. do I just sign up for ad-sense separately from youtube?

maybe I'm looking at it wrong tho. I'll check it again. right now I'm just showing lets plays with no commentary so maybe that's why.

whats the difference between adwords and adsense?

>>1000573
Tell me exactly what it says, or better yet show me.

>>1000575
Adsense is the program where you are paid by advertisers for your online property, adwords is where you spend money to put out advertisements.

>>1000603
ah thanks.

actually my account is on another computer so I can't tell you exactly. I'll look into when I can get back to it. maybe I missed something.

>>1000606
yep I was wrong. I can enable it right away.
Tho my vids(gameplay) aren't eligible according to the guidelines.

Should I do it anyway or wait till I can get some more original content created? Wouldn't want my channel deleted before I even started.

>>997858
>The areas I'm strongest in are youtube
ROFL

>>998053
what do you mean about Patreon getting "clamped down"? I've heard nothing about this and am very curious

>>1000217
40%? Seriously?

how many money you earn per year ?

OP IS IDUBBZTV
OP IS IDUBBZTV
OP IS IDUBBZTV

>>1001010
loser trying to bump his own channel

>>1001026
You're fucking retarded. That channel has over 300k subs... if that was my channel i'd fucking tell you. Moron

>>1000348
exactly, youtube red means content creators will able to take it to the next level because we have paid services plus the revenue from youtube will increase. i dont get why idiots think it will mean an end to all the other youtubers like wtf

Thanks for this thread, OP.

I have just one question. There are three ways for a youtube user to display ads: as an opening video, as a banner on the side or as a banner on the video itself. What do you opt to use?

>>1001010
idubbztv is based as fuck though and OP shows autistic personality traits

If I had to guess, OP is from australia and runs a buzzfeed type mindless entertainment channel where he has random normies talking in front of a greenscreen

>>997858


>>657722731

>>997858
Hi spencer

Also, how many views do you have on your youtube account? Don't have to be very specific.

Hi OP, thanks for being the only legit person i have seen on this board for months.

Apart from youtube, i'd bet you have devlopped money managing skills, would you mind sharing a few?

To be more specific, when did you start diversifying your income?
When would you consider buying an expensive asset (such as a house), or even making huge expenses at all?

I've heard a lot of people telling the benefits of fiteness, and how it improved your cognitive abilities and your overall well being.
Do you need it (or think anyone would)? I'm quite skeptical.

>>1000603
Do you do any paid videos to boost your per video income. Also does twitch play any role in your yt monies, again do you also stream to earn extra coin.
But if what you saying is true and adblock will be gone in a year then now would be the perfect time to get into youtube.
Also how much time a week do you dedicate to it altogether. Is it more or less now that you are more established?

>>997858
Shut the fuck up iHaz.

>>1001399
Don't even associate me with that guy. Everyone knows his strength is posting screen shots he modified with inspect element of his portfolio.

>>1001836
says the guy who won't provide ANY evidence of his earning despite some outrageous and laughable claims...

I'm not a huge fan of attention whores and tripfags, but at least some of them back up their claims with actual knowledge and advice. You? You've been nothing but a massive useless cunt, in additional to blatantly lying about your earnings.

You are the cancer.

>>1001849
Hahahah you're still at. You're like Jeb Bush, you'll never win your pride back, keep yapping away at my leg little Shih tzu. It's hilarious to see that I've kept you boiling mad for days :^)

>>997858
Obviously you invest much of your time into youtube, so from that have you learned anything that will make it easier for channels who are just starting out? desu I honestly do think its about understanding what people like and going for that, like gaming.

>>1001079
You're welcome. There are three types of advertisements (technically four depending on the length of your video)

Pre roll ads (post roll if your video is long enough
display ads outside of the video player
Now there are sponsored in video ads as well which shove products down your throat while watching.

I use all of the above.

>>1000790
Patreon has been involved in some tax avoidance and money laundering schemes. Recently they've also especially clamped down on European users and Americans thanks to FATCA. I had a friend who uses it and had to supply more information than he really should have. I think their future going forwards in terms of legal grace is dubious.

>>1000800
If you take federal, state, local, and all the other nonsense taxes self employed people have to pay that normal workers don't then yes, 40%.

>>1000947
Multi six figures

>>1001152
I have hundreds of millions across my accounts.

>>1001317
Thank you very much for your kind words. Despite the lack of gratefulness I've been shown I still did have a nice time talking with people who were willing to learn.

I have developed quite a few money managing skills. I think I've perfected my investing strategies to preserve my wealth. It's all basic math really to make sure that you're keeping ahead of expenses and maintaining profits. All of this can be looked up online for free or just can be figured out via common sense. Keep your receipts, keep spreadsheets. There's not much I can say about that specifically to you, what business you're in will determine a lot about that. Also get a business bank account sooner rather than later.

I started diversifying my income pretty much as I soon I started doing well. I would retain probably 90% of my after tax profits and immediately put it into dividend stocks I've identified as extremely reliable for 7-10% yearly gains, that has helped shift most of my income reliance away from YouTube.

>>1001317
I am not a fan of buying houses I'm still young and don't want to be tied up in a non fungible asset. I like my dividends and stocks.

I don't work out at all, I never have. I can't speak about any of the benefits. I seem to be doing fine without it.

>>1001393
I never have dabbled with paid videos but there is an absolute killing to be made in there if you know what you're doing.

This is unrelated but, I know of a person who has 1 successful video that is 2 hours long that people always watch all the way through. He makes $200,000 a year from that video alone. That is an example of another unorthodox strategy. More people need to think about off the path strategies like that.

I've been thinking of ways to get into a market where I can produce long videos with frequent advertisements, keeping up viewer retention for that is critical but you require less views and have the potential to make more money than your average person. Most people don't think this way.

>>1001393
You'll have to make your own call on that. I could be wrong about Adblock. I don't believe I will be though. YouTube is very hard, I recommend you read about everything else I've said about it earlier in the thread. I still don't believe it's worth playing the YouTube lottery at the expense of future career potential. Also YouTube is becoming very saturated, and the business itself is inherently unstable. You'll have to think very long and hard about taking the jump.

I dedicate more time to it a week than a person working a normal job. To me this isn't a job, I work every second of my free time but it doesn't feel like work. I'm thinking about it constantly. If I want to (and I have done this) sometimes I work as little as 10 hours a week. I have complete control over this, I choose to work long hours though.

>>1001872
You seem to be on the right track.

>>1001881
Thanks for the nice reply but theres just one thing I'm unsure about, what type of gaming should i go into. Like should i just dickride companies like activision or treyarch and let the money come swooping in from that, or should i use my "personality" to gain attention.

>>1001874
>I have developed quite a few money managing skills. I think I've perfected my investing strategies to preserve my wealth.
The lying Youtuber is now claiming to be an investment prodigy as well. Oh fuck, my sides just went from near-earth orbit to multi-dimensional.

Thanks OP. At first I thought you were just a vile attention-seeking faggot. Now I know you've been trolling all along.

>>1001874
>I started diversifying my income pretty much as I soon I started doing well. I would retain probably 90% of my after tax profits and immediately put it into dividend stocks I've identified as extremely reliable for 7-10% yearly gains, that has helped shift most of my income reliance away from YouTube.

Just a quick though from that, would you recommend, for a college freshman (with no debts, cause europe or rich parents watever), doing a wage slave job part-time or during the summer and invest almoste all of it ( $4-5 thousands) in order to have some long term investments, before trying youtube?

>>1001889
Personality. Personality. Personality. Those fields are like trying to storm a castle with a baseball bat. Personality youtubers become larger than treyarch lemmings anyways. You can use editing techniques to hide that you don't have a good personality (if you do I don't intend to assume.) It's easier to grow, and you'll have more fun as you bathe in the adoration of your fans.

I'd consider streaming, you can actually make more money than youtubers if you play your cards right, just make sure that you grow the audience on youtube. This is crucial. Make funny edits. Also scope out people who do this successfully, imitate them using the techniques I talked about earlier in this thread, specifically the ones involving editing tricks and tag stealing.

>>1001890
What I do is preserve my wealth with modest gains in defensive positions. I buy dividend focused REITS, Vanguards, and JNJ among others. I appreciate you carefully taking in my advice while cursing me. Try again Jeb :^)

>>1001891
Get a job but not for the reasons that you just laid out. 4-5k is not enough and you'd just be wasting it. You need emergency money you can use to survive or money immediately on hand to start ventures. I started in a similar position to you, although I've never worked a real job in my entire life. I just had some internships I got through nepotism. I don't count those.

>>1001890
I'm considering becoming a tripfag here just make this guy's life miserable. Let me know what you think.

>>1001896

I'd like that

>>1001895
4-5k may be small for investing, but how would someone start a venture with that amount?

but yeah, in general, having a few extra k's on your bank account, never did any harm

>>1001902
I don't think he has a job. I work from home and don't have a commute so I think I've done a decent job keeping up with this huge thread but he's in here all day every day menstruating on me.

>>1001903
You can start a YouTube channel with 4-5k. The startup costs are a lot lower than you think. I started mine for less if you don't include the costs of the personal computers I used. As time went on they required a lot more expenses but in the beginning things were certainly simple and cheap.

>>1001906
apart from youtube or twitch, i can't really think of a venture with that low entry cost, even a plumber, must buy his tools and a van or pick-up.

As a side question, do you still live with your parents (because you seem to have verry small expenses)?

>>1001910
Twitch is even cheaper than YouTube imo. Youtube still requires a lot of production value where for twitch you just need a computer, webcam, games, and a room preferably with interesting posters in the background.

Yes I did for a while. That being said most of my savings came from not needing to commute. Living at home was very helpful when things still could go either way and when I only made $45k that first year.

>>1001923
What are your expenses today?
I suppose you rent a small appartement in a small city, and eat frugally, or you're in the mid 6 figures range, because otherwise you'd be saving a lot less than 90%

OP, I'll probably never get into youtube, but you sound like an intelligent person. I'd like to know, what are you planning on doing after youtube? Stock trading?

>>1001936
I live in a domicile (won't say which kind) my parents own so there is no mortgage, just fees and property taxes. It's in a very cheap area as well. For most of my career I was at home, which is what generated the most of my savings. Now that I have to work with people to manage my ever growing network of channels I decided it was time to move out. I still want to go back sometimes, the amount I saved was absolutely incredible.

I do also eat very frugally as you guessed. We're talking instant ramen and noodles. I love that stuff. I haven't shopped for new clothes in years, I don't buy cars, I don't buy trinkets. I don't go on vacations. I don't keep long term girlfriends and date because my only love at the moment are my channels. That alone I think contributes the most to savings (behind not having to commute.) I love what I do, and building empires and watching my bank balance go up is what satisfies me, not things you can buy.

>>1001895
>I buy dividend focused REITS, Vanguards, and JNJ among others.
>I buy Vanguards
>buy Vanguards
Oh sweet Jesus, OP, you're a gift that keeps on giving. Please share more of the financial strategies that you use to grow your fictional earnings.

>>1001881
Do you think you have to follow your passion if you are going to start a channel. But now it seems like the only real reason to start a channel is for the money and so you automatically seem like a sellout. I've been watching and I could see a possible increase in videos of people just doing their normal thing but that is also pretty relegated to twitch.
I have a pretty well paying job and a passion that could lead to a lot larger paycheck but the possibility of just talking to people and interacting would be a lot less boring and therefore more fun while doing my job/passion.

>>1001944
Thank you. I don't intend to stock trade, I think that's like signing up for D-day on Omaha beach. Most people just don't make it. I buy very, very defensively as I mentioned before. I think I'll start an office style company or maybe if I'm really lazy just live off the dividends. Once I get my stocks up to 1 million I think I can structure it such that I'll be paid $50k a year in dividends while still letting the principle grow. Then I can just be a bum. It's still up in the air, I think I'll start a company though that is leveraged by my YouTube savings.

>>1001946
Now you're just grasping at straws. I have a very casual writing style. My life isn't as stressful as yours, being unemployed with no savings and all. I meant index funds idiot. VDC, the retirement 2040 indexes, total stock market indexes, etc. Try again Jeb, stop spending so much time in this thread pretending you're not hanging on my every word, and go out and get a job.

>>1001947
>I have a pretty well paying job and a passion that could lead to a lot larger paycheck

Stick with that, YouTube may be fundamentally different in 5 years. They change the algorithms all the time and certain channels often implode with those changes. It's a treadmill, you have to keep producing or else. I'm saving so that I can get out of this dangerous position. In no way am I planning on this lasting forever. If you put all your eggs in the YouTube basket it may pay a lot in the short term (I'm more lucky than most people) but it won't give you enough to pay for the rest of your life.

>>1001959
That's always been my feeling, so I guess I'm more interested in the twitch side which sounds like you don't have a lot of experience with. Thanks for all the info though. I'm just seeing the twitch as an elevation of boringness and make more money

>>1001970
Yes it is a good idea to think of it that way, pursue it only as a hobby, if you see an opportunity by all means take the leap. But you know what they say: "Don't quit your day job." The only reason why I cloud take the risks I did was because I was in high school and in college when I was messing around with YouTube. For the most part though, the risks are minimal and it can't hurt to try if you treat it only as a side hobby.

>>997924
>and here the curtain comes down as you beg for acceptance from those who care less.

i had a good laugh at that gold rock youtube sends you :)

>>1001991
It's silver actually. Not a rock either, it's a play button. 200 posts later on what is probably one of the most successful threads on this entire board I call this a success. There were quite a few people that were willing to learn that I enjoyed interacting with. Believe what you want though.

>>1001994
>200 posts later on what is probably one of the most successful threads on this entire board I call this a success.

>>1002024
300 actually I got that wrong.

>>1002031
This thread is just a pathetic attempt at stroking your own ego. You have never addressed >>998847 which easily shows that your claim of 100k subscribers means you are netting no more than an average white-collar worker.

Here you are thinking you are some titan of new mass media when you just making fucking YouTube videos. Even the BEST YouTuber is getting fucked over by a company owned by fucking Disney lol. Your own ego won't let you see that, just like your own ego won't let you NOT reply to me :^)

>>1002039
>>999444

I know a guy in spain with a million subscribers and I really doubt he makes as much as you.

How many videos a day do you post, how many a month?

Oh and I also know another guy (that got helped by this guy) that has now 600K subscribers. They do the usual routine, minecraft gameplays, and whatever games are trendy, with their faces doing a stupid expresion, shinny colors as thumbnails etc. I can't believe it.

Ive known those guys years, they are online friends, specially the other one, and he hasn't talked to me since he started getting famous. Im sure the next time we talk he will say "it's you who doesn't say anything".

It torns me that I could have been there too milking on dumb kids thanks to the first guy who had already around 300k subs (I have no idea how he got there) since if you collab with a famous guy it would be easy, but I was the guy that wouldn't even go on mic because of paranoia of being recorded, and I live with my mom so it's embarrasing knowing she would hear me talk on mic. I absolutely hate normalfags and couldn't deal with performing the PewDiePie routine on a daily basis. How the fuck did you do it? You said you don't show your face, but you do show your voice, since you said you had a gaming channel. You also said you don't have any real friends in YT, so what did you play that wasn't a chore to play daily by yourself for +1 year without getting any money at the begining? is your voice interesting? what the fuck do you say? How did you build a following for a such a channel? there are billions of "guy on a mic playing minecraft" channels already, I mean you dont even show face.

Ive had some success in the past but at an underground level so no money to be made. Ive also had money with Bitcoin, im holding 30 and hope that someday its something huge. I will never tell those guys and hope BTC blows up in the future as the YT bubble crashes because they go out of fashion as entertainers of 9 year olds. What do you think about YT long term?

>>1002048
It's not hard to provide proof of your wealth or earnings. The few people with real money on the board have done it.

On the other hand, we've also had entire full threads started by lying, role playing losers. Who never post proof of their claims.

You've been called out by multiple people for lying. So the ball's in your court, fag.

>>1002059
CPM's for non english speaking countries are garbage. The advertising dollars aren't there. Keep in mind I run multiple channels, also keep in mind I have never said exactly how much I make. It is within a range of 200k - 999k (multi six figures as I said.)

>>1002059
I post probably 40 videos a month. It's hard to say, it varies a lot. I can't answer your other questions sorry they're too personal and I've gotten a lot of mediocrity fags here desperately trying to tear me down. I'd be careful about Bitcoin. 30 is a lot, I hope you didn't put all of your networth into it. In the past I've lost money on bitcoin. I dont believe in YouTube long term.

>>1002062
I have nothing to prove to disrespectful mediocrity fags like yourself. No wonder everyone here is so unsuccessful, their social skills are so stunted that they expect people they lash out at to do things for them. I won't do shit for you. The evidence I have provided (4 pictures now) is plenty. I have demonstrated my success on YouTube, for everyone else that is enough hence the hundreds of questions I've received. It's just you.

I guarantee this thread has been more successful than anything you've ever done on this site (over 300 replies now), and now to add insult to injury you're devoting a substantial amount of your personal time putting your emotions out to dry in front of hundreds of people. Name 1 thing I've lied about. There are things that I haven't talked about, to preserve my anonymity but I have not lied once. Take your envious babble and either put up or move on.

>>1002059
Continued:

As far as YT goes, I have an idea for a gaming related channel, well indeed I have started it already, it has 200 subs lol. Most of them I got them by spamming, sub4sub and shit, and some came in naturally. I have over 70 gmail accounts that I created back in the day and I try to rank my shit on videos as comments. Im also considering paying someone with more subs to give me a shotout, my Bitcoins could come handy on this. Of course i wouldn't waste much, but im sure once I get around 1 to 5k subscribers, someone with 30k subscribers would take 50€ to give me a shootout or something, then work for there.

The problem: my content takes time to create, it's not me playing a game (I will never show face or voice), so the rate of video can be 1 every 2 weeks. But those videos tend to always recieve views vs the regular guy-playing-a-game type of videos.

What I would like to is to have like 50 videos that recieve constant views and give me a decent extra income monthly and work for there. It's all original content. The language is a problem. I have heard english traffic pays a lot better but its hell to rank compared to spanish. I don't think a multi-language channel would work, so im thinking about reuploading the same videos in a different language, or maybe don't even use text for my content, it's content that can be seen and followed in any language. But this would need keywords in at least 2 languages english and spanish which are the biggest 2 languages.

When I add keywords in YT, I get a message at some point that says: "You have to many tags" or something". Should I pay attention to this? or can I keep adding tags? I say this because if I add tags for 2 languages, I can't be as precise.

>>1002063
Don't worry about my BTC, I didn't pull any money on it, I just had luck I guess. So im going long term, I couldn't give a fuck about cashing out right now. The idea is to hold until the point I don't even need to cash out. I believe in the thing very long term, the potential is huge.

Why don't you believe in YT long term, specifically?
Didn't you say that with the YT Red thing you will get even more money? How did they get rid of adblock? (btw I use uBlock origin which is even better).

I also want to know more about your gaming channel, because that's where you showed voice (as far as I know), in the others you hired actors? or something. Did the actors do prank? how did you direct the whole thing? Did you meet with them IRL or give directions on what to do online?

I also want to know how did you build a media following (twitter and facebook) starting from scratch. Nobody gives a fuck about sharing something, I tried sharing on twitter and nobody cares. Where did the twitter and facebook followers come from originally, from your Youtube (YT vids->social media) or what?

I also want to know about video volume and life expectancy of a video. Do old videos still give you money? I know channels that haven't uploaded any videos in ages, but they are big channels and still get tons of views monthly. That's my idea. Get a good amount of original content and have it give me some money monthly. I can't do constant videos since I don't want to show my face and don't want to get involved with others.

Sorry for the mixed up questions I type as it comes.
I just know I need to do something, I would rather kill myself than work while these fucking retards play minecraft and get more money than me.
My dream is that BTC blows up and the idiots don't see it comming, hopefully as YT goes to hell and they are stuck in no one's land, but I just see the thing grow and grow, I watch in Socialblade and they get 1000+ of subs daily, what the fuck, its like it never ends.

>>1002088
I was a huge fan of BTC. I even got involved in some of the conference circuit and all that crap. I still own BTC but moved on a while ago. That mainly coincided with my rise on YouTube. I regret not taking it more seriously when I was first aware of it. They always branded it as "replacing the US dollar" not vastly outstripping the US dollar and becoming an investment. It was originally more of a libertarian / sound money curiosity than something with billion dollar potential. I wish you luck on that.

I believe that things will improve on YouTube in the short term but in the long term I have no faith in the site. I'm naturally more conservative in my valuations though. Algorithm changes can wipe out channels so easily, hence why I'm saving what I can and trying to eventually move away from it.

Adblock has not been purged on YouTube yet, I was saying that plans for that were in the works. They're doing this so that people will actually buy YouTube red.

I can't talk about the channels, there are people here who are trying their absolute hardest to bring me down.

Automate your social media accounts and design garbage pictures for normies that are shareable, aka memes and whatever. You know what I mean. Copy other pages Those shared pictures will get people to find your page and like it. It's roundabout but cheaper and more effective than paying for exposure or struggling in oblivion.

Old videos give me the most money, this is true just by the virtue that they have more time to accumulate ranking and total views. I dont' recommend ever stopping uploading. As soon as you do, the algorithm pulls the plug on you and awards preference to someone else. It seems like a lot of your opinions on YouTube are shaped by the personal betrayl by your friends. I'm sorry to see that, it's hard to live through life after coming so close to an opportunity. I felt that way when Bitcoin hit $1,200. There will be other chances. You'll find a way, it's time to move on.

>>1002070
"Most of them I got them by spamming, sub4sub and shit, "

Don't do that, seriously. Listen I believe in doing things by any means necessary but those strategies hurt you more than help you. Use that time you spend spamming and devote it towards improving your content, or alternatively creating even more content. More content is better than less. The algorithim loves frequent uploads.

" have over 70 gmail accounts that I created back in the day and I try to rank my shit on videos as comments."

I agree with this strategy, just don't use them to subscribe to you. If you use them to subscribe the algorithim sees 70 subscribers who never watch your videos and will count them as unegaged subscribers thus lowering your favorability in the alogirthim.

"The problem: my content takes time to create, it's not me playing a game (I will never show face or voice), so the rate of video can be 1 every 2 weeks. But those videos tend to always recieve views vs the regular guy-playing-a-game type of videos."

If your strategy isn't working it that means that it needs to be reevaluated.

"What I would like to is to have like 50 videos that recieve constant views and give me a decent extra income monthly and work for there."

And I wish I could win the lottery tomorrow. It's important to be realistic.

" I have heard english traffic pays a lot better but its hell to rank compared to spanish."
This is absolutely true.

"I don't think a multi-language channel would work,"
It won't, either go all English or go all Spanish.

"When I add keywords in YT, I get a message at some point that says: "You have to many tags" or something". Should I pay attention to this? or can I keep adding tags? I say this because if I add tags for 2 languages, I can't be as precise."

You should pay attention to this. As I said before, pick one language and stick with it. This dual strategy will get you nowhere, assuming I understand what you're doing correctly.

First of all thanks for the thread and sorry about the fuckers trying to tare you down. Success has always and will always be attacked by the mediocre.

I really wanted to start YT back in 2008 when i was 15. I wanted to be that kid making COD montages and commentary. I was never able to because its hard to convince parents who collect welfare to lend you money for capture cards and equipment. I could have got a part-time job so its still my fault though. I tried again in 2012 but stopped because i came under the impression gaming was too over saturated and i had this irrational belief that the successful Youtubers were going to try to stop new channels from succeeding. I was also really bad at commentary. Since then ive gotten a full time job.
1) Do you think its worth trying to do this 20 hours a week on top of a 40 - 50 hour a week job.
2) Do you have family/friends in RL you know what you do? Do you avoid talking about it?
3) And tips on perseverance? Uploading 40 vids a month with play back for a long while seems daunting and can see lots of people just quitting.

>>1002203
>on perseverance? Uploading 40 vids a month with play back for a long while
*without payback i meant to say

>>1000284
youtube just has to prevent adblocking to the point where it becomes too complicated for casuals to block the ads.
nobody cares about the low percentage of neckbeards that would rather die than watch a 5 second ad

>>1002069
>The evidence I have provided (4 pictures now) is plenty.
I never doubted that you're involved in a YouTube channel, either as a producer or as an employee. What was disputed was your claims of six-figure earnings. This has been made clear in every one of my posts.

Congrats on deceiving a few 12 year-olds. The adults on the board know you're barely making rent and living on ramen noodles. An interesting job that barely puts you at the poverty line isn't all that interesting to grownups.

>>1002116
I will not go into details but I would strongly recommend that you keep an eye on BTC, it hasn't even begun yet. I assume you haven't been paying attention to developments as you seem to be on Youtube full time.

The thing is all of my BTC is non taxed, the gov has no idea, and I don't want to get taxed, so I just have it there, holding. If I sell some of it in the future I will need to tax that amount (will never sell all of it, that's fucking retarded).

>>1002124
If I was realistic I wouldn't start youtube desu. I can give you some examples of channels that get 3 million views a month, and the video upload schelude is a mess, it's badly organized, 3 videos per month and so on. I think once you hit a certain number of views with a video, you just don't stop getting new people watching it, so if you have 50 other similar videos, it should keep recieving views as they come from the viralized video. I just need to somehow shove this content into kids throats so maybe i'll invest on adwords and whatnot. This is my only way to make it. There's no fucking way im using my voice, so this means I can't upload frequent videos. No more than 1 a week. And I think I have better shots at this than doing a "top10 of whatever" type of shit.

Also about multiple channels: Do you have 1 gmail account = 1 channel or do you have multiple channels in the same account?

Do channel age matter for the algorithm? I heard it's better if your gmail account is old. Mine are all from 2010. I wish there was a way to know where you commented. Im worried to use some of them to start a channel because I may have shitposted somewhere and you dont want to become big with comments you dont remember in some controversial video.

All I know is im not going to work, so it's either internet money or NEET for life.

I would still would like to know how do you deal with the IRL shit where you hire actors.
There are way too many channels like this nowadays so don't be paranoid about people finding out. I just want to know how it work.
For example, with this content I doubt you can make 40 videos a week. What's the amount of videos you make? How do you tell the actors the script, what to do or whatever?
Do you hire a "personality" that says at the end of the video "subscribe and like" or is just
1) actors do shit IRL
2) screen to subscribe and so on

If this is the format, there is no bound formed between audience and content, like, the actors don't talk directly to the camera, they just do the social experiment or whatever, or have you hired those actors full time and they have become personalities of the channel?

More: What do you think of buying views and susbcribers?
I know sub4sub isn't good but a low sub count isn't neither. People are stupid and they become instantly interested in a channel that has 2k subs vs 174 or something, even myself whean reading Youtube comments, if I see someone with a K on his sub count I sometimes check it out, its fucking insane.

>>1002254
>either as a producer or as an employee
Holy shit you have no idea how YouTube works do you. What kind of company would let an employee just walk out with their awards. LOL what Youtubers even have "producers." Are you 80? How do you not understand things like that? How are you even using a computer?

I don't eat Ramen by the way, I eat Soba. I always liked that ever since I was in college. How much stamina do you have? You've been whining on this thread for hours. I do better than you do, all by the age of 23. Accept it and move on.

>>1002290
I don't even pay rent by the way, I live in a place that's fully paid off. I've put myself out there, and even your greatest efforts to try to discredit me have all bounced off. You are nothing.

>>1002203
>First of all thanks for the thread and sorry about the fuckers trying to tare you down. Success has always and will always be attacked by the mediocre.

Agreed, though these guys are trying a lot harder than I expected, no wonder Bernie Sanders has the support he does. There are a lot of angry and emotionally stunted people who blame others and who were given the short stick in life out there.

>I really wanted to start YT back in 2008 when i was 15.

You should have. It sounds like you've processed a lot of the maldaptive thoughts about why you didn't succeed in the past, all without blaming others. I'm very impressed by that.

>>1002203
How likely do you think you will succeed? Keep in mind YouTube is not worth it unless you are in the top 1% of all producers. As I told others, my recommendation is always no if you are in a field with potential for advancement. You have to do risk reward and cost benefit analysis.

Only very close friends (1 or 2) and only my immediately family know what's going on with me. I avoid talking about it all costs. It changes how people view you, I talked alot about this earlier in the thread.

I persevered because I knew that if I failed I would have really screwed up my life and wasted the opportunities I was given. Create a schedule and stick to it. Really stick to it, even if it means uploading crap just to stay on schedule. I was living off my parents dime when I started so I could stomach not being paid for a year while working as hard as I did. If you have responsibilities and a job I'd recommend to stay away from YT. Motivation is hard. Good luck.

>>1002243
You said it better than I could have.

>>1002255
I'm jaded about BTC. I make plenty of money with what I do, there's no need to take risks. But you are correct, I have not been paying attention. I used to go on the BTC subreddit every day, I'm beyond that point in life. I appreciate you giving me the tip though, maybe I'll be more watchful now.

>>1002255
I have a mix, I have one gmail with multiple youtubes tied to it, and then I also have a few other separate gmail accounts tied to one youtube account. 3/4's of my channels (my best ones) are tied to one gmail account.

I haven't heard anything regarding gmail account age. I have channels tied to barely a year old gmail accounts and they're my best performers. I also have a 2008 gmail account tied to a youtube account. I haven't seen any correlations with that or heard anything from people in the know I've talked to.

You're going to have to work sometime. It's nearly impossible in life to get big returns when providing little value back. That is the nature of commerce. Internet money is hard. Good luck.

>>1002269
I make 40 videos a month across my channels. Some of my editing is outsourced. I still like to do as much of it as I can myself. I'm a control freak.

I can't answer those other questions, they provide too many clues as to who I am.

>>1002285
Do not buy fake views or subscribers. YouTube is extremely efficient at rooting these out. Their entire existence l is predicated on the view counts being accurate. They take this very seriously.

The only thing I would pay for is more views via an adwords campaign or paying for shoutouts. Do not sub for sub, I'm telling you it's more trouble than it's worth. Same thing with making alts and subscribing to yourself. I know there's a dilemma in the beginning where if you're not big you're not respected and you can't get big because you're not respected. It's impossible for everyone to succeed, and whether you get through the first thousand or not is mostly out of your hands. You have correctly identified how people evaluate channels when they first see them though.

>>1002290
>What kind of company would let an employee just walk out with their awards.
So you took the photo in your boss's office. OK.
>what Youtubers even have "producers."
Content producer, the generic term for mildly creative attention whores like you. OK.
>I do better than you do
No you don't. OK.
>Accept it and move on.
Pretty weak deflection from someone who refuses to post any proof of a claim he made.

You said you earn hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Prove it.

>>1002293
>I live in a place that's fully paid off.
ITS CALLED MOM'S BASEMENT.

>>1002318
It's funny that you expect people who you've lashed out at to do things for you. Also it's myopic to assume that I care about your acceptance or belief in me.

Post proof of one accomplishment you've done that even pales in comparison to what I have. I'll wait. Ball is in your court nerdlet.

>>1002310
Where do you get all your information about the algorithm?

Also, I do not do sub4sub but if they ask me, I subscribe back, that a good thing or no?

>>1002321
>It's funny that you expect people who you've lashed out at to do things for you. Also it's myopic to assume that I care about your acceptance or belief in me.
I don't expect you to do anything. I'm already convinced that you lied about your earnings. I was merely being polite and giving you the chance to prove yourself.

And yes, you are desperately seeking acceptance. Poor YouTubers are a dime-a-dozen. Uninteresting, sad, and pathetic. If you were actually getting wealthy from it, as you claim, that would be quite a story. No one cares about an interesting full time job that pays $25K/year. That's loserville, kid.

>Post proof of one accomplishment you've done that even pales in comparison to what I have
This isn't about me. This isn't my thread. Yes, I am infinitely more successful and wealthy than you, but that's entirely irrelevant to my simple and singular question:

Will you provide evidence supporting your claim that you earn hundreds of thousands of dollars per year from YouTube?

>>1002353
>Can't prove that he's done a single thing that has made his life worthwhile.

BTFO. I win.

>>1002359
You're deflecting again. This isn't my AMA thread. It's yours.

You made a claim. Can you provide evidence to support this claim? There's lots of things you could post: bank statements, checks, account statements. Take a photo and post it. Or even a screenshot, as easily as that can be faked, would at least be some evidence. Let us judge its credibility, just as you've judged the credibility of the evidence posted by others on the board.

So stop trotting out memes and answer the question:

Will you provide evidence supporting your claim that you earn hundreds of thousands of dollars per year from YouTube?

>>1002367
You want it from me very badly. I will never give it to you. Because it is you who wants something from me.

I will enjoy watching you obsessively post, trying desperately to get at me, but this is the last time I'll give you my attention. You took me on, and you lost. Bye :^)

>>1002372
>>1002350

Also, my friend, by sub4sub I do not mean using third party websites. I just meant that some other channels comment on me asking to sub them after they've subbed me. Will I get in trouble for doing this? Is it worth it?

>>1002350
Experience, I read the periodicals, and I've in the past hired consultants. The good ones anyways. It's bad to in in sub for sub and all, end that practice immediately it's killing your channels rankings with the subscribers you don't want and engage with your videos.

>>1002375
I knew what you meant, no matter how you slice it you're commuting suicide by continuing. You wont' get in trouble but it's killing your rankings.

>>1002372
I don't care either way. The view from up here on the moral high-ground is way better than the low road you trod. Lying to children to get attention and self-gratification? Pathetic.

But I'm a fair man. You made claims. You're the successful YouTuber. You deserve the chance to prove yourself. So I have just one question:

Will you provide evidence supporting your claim that you earn hundreds of thousands of dollars per year from YouTube?

>>1002310
>I make 40 videos a month across my channels.
What is the channel where you upload less videos per month and what's the performance on there?

I have subscribed to myself 70 times + sub4sub and I have 4000 natural views half of them from searches, the rest mixed sources, only 2 videos. Some have subscribed. Getting subscribers is hard as fuck. I don't know how to break even so people naturally subscribe a lot but well I just started this channel, i'll upload whenever I can, meanwhile im making like 2 BTC monthly doing other shit which is something and I dont want to cut time on that because it would mean less BTC to make monthly.

Also im not going to wokr, I would rather kill myself. My parents will have to pay for my shit for life if my effort with internet stuff doesn't pay off. Im not going to contribute to shit so normalfags can get rich off Youtube while I work a boring job that serves them in a way (for example you work in a restaurant hard so they can come with their ad revenue money to eath with your hard work while the don't do shit for a living). It all leads to people being killed so it's better that I stay a NEET if I dont get rich off BTC or Youtube or whatever.
I would be happy with 1000 USD a month from ad revenue with a low volume of video uploads (again I cant upload constant shit because I dont want to use my voice).

>>1002380
Thanks a lot, OP! I might have some questions in the future that I may want to ask you. Do you lurk in /biz/ a lot? Ever considered getting a trip?

>>1002380
One of the biggest youtubers started with sub4sub, a guy did research and apparently he maybe got around 500+ using this technique at first, then starte unsubscribing from people as natural traffic came. Is it that bad?

One of my two videos, is ranked at page 2 right now, and has been for a month, and the search is very generic and involves a famous youtuber, I dont know how i got away with it, but this is giving me a modest amount of constant views daily from kids searching that shit. The video is also beefed up with a ton of comments I made on my own and likes. I used a different IP each time lol.

Again im not aiming for the starts, i only want 1000 USD of passive income. Im an hermit, I like philosophy and math, I don't want to deal with IRL people interaction.

I go to the gym so im not like an hikkimori type of hermit but you get the idea.

>>997886
What is this picture?

>>1002385
All my channels are very successful. The one I upload least on because I'm overstretched at the moment does very well but could be doing much better if I uploaded more frequently.

>I have subscribed to myself 70 times + sub4sub and I have 4000 natural views half of them from searches, the rest mixed sources, only 2 videos. Some have subscribed. Getting subscribers is hard as fuck. I

You really need to change what you're doing. Stop the subscriber gimmicks and upload more videos. Also please cut back on the BTC you're buying. I doubt if you told people you knew in real life that they'd approve it.

>Im not going to contribute to shit so normalfags can get rich off Youtube while I work a boring job that serves them in a way (for example you work in a restaurant hard so they can come with their ad revenue money to eath with your hard work while the don't do shit for a living).

That is exactly me, except I am not a normal fag as you say, and I do love to eat out. It's a weakness of mine. I have worked very hard for this though. I put in more hours than your average wage slave person and I assumed a ton of personal risk taking this path. You need to change your attitudes about life.

For 1,000 USD a month you need to get a 900k+ views a month. Keep that in mind.

>>1002397
You're welcome, I have from time to time, only out of boredom due to a lack of an alternative. There aren't any good business forums out there. I haven't been very impressed with biz, the reaction of some people here has only solidified that in my mind. I'll look for other places online to hangout and talk about business. Maybe I'll get a trip, if there's demand. I think though that a lot of people don't want me here, I prefer to hang out with people who have already made it anyways.

>ne of the biggest youtubers started with sub4sub,

That would be an exception to the rule. It's still possible to make it while doing that. But really, don't.

>>1002401
I don't care whether you go to the gym or not. I don't go at all.

>>1002423
People are stupid and dont know what Bitcoin is, also im not buying it im winning it im getting paid. Its a job and requires hours and dont want to cut hours for that for youtube so i cant be making as much content. Even if I had more hours like I said before I would still be limited to less videos since the content I would do requires more hours than playing while commenting which you can churn a ton of shit like that.

>The one I upload least on because I'm overstretched at the moment does very well but could be doing much better if I uploaded more frequently.

But how much do you upload in numbers? i ask this to have a reference because what i said above

>That is exactly me, except I am not a normal fag as you say, and I do love to eat out. It's a weakness of mine. I have worked very hard for this though. I put in more hours than your average wage slave person and I assumed a ton of personal risk taking this path. You need to change your attitudes about life.

The normalfags picking a camera and doing a vlog or playing minecraft without not even editing the video dont work hard so im not going to serve them food.

>>1002484
You're winning the bitcoin? I don't understand.

I upload 40 videos a month that channel in particular I upload once a week which is inexcusable.

I remember you posting here a few months ago. Do you think there's a good chance that YouTube is still profitable? It just seems too competitive for most people starting up. I can't even grasp how to make myself more unique from the other YouTube people.

>>1002571
This is my first time starting a thread here. That must have been someone else.

>unique
There's your problem. Initiate, don't innovate.

>It just seems too competitive for most people starting up.

It is, success is very unlikely. I talk about that a lot in my previous posts. I recommend you check them out, I know this thread is long but there's a lot of info I typed out there.

>>1002574
>success is very unlikely
I'm sure if you just want to make another gaming channel or become a "vlogger" and aren't going to put much of an effort in, then you'll have to get lucky to make a living. If you produce well made videos that are entertaining or educational to the masses, aren't you bound to get a significant amount of viewers/subscribers? I've never stumbled across a channel with a low amount of subscribers and not showing signs of growth that I thought deserved to have hundreds of thousands or millions of subscribers.

It seems that any video niche that isn't personality based (Educational videos, some comedy skits/cartoons, "youtube documentary" type videos, etc) is very easy to succeed in if you actually have quality content. Obviously its easier to sell out/milk your audience for money if they love your personality and want to be your friend, but there's definitely money to be made if you're getting views. Do you have any input on this?

>>1002517
Hi im im the same guy, i do a job and get paid on BTC, so all of my BTC is unknown to gov, I can decide when to get it taxed if i ever cash out but i will never sell all of it, I dont know how it works desu (the taxing of BTC or taxing in general since i've made normal money lol)

>(Educational videos, some comedy skits/cartoons, "youtube documentary" type videos, etc)

this is my goal, it has to do with "cartoons"
I want to make random videos and also series, that will hopefully attract the tween crowd then random people as once you get traffic volume the youtube algorithm will push the videos upon more people, those kind of videos (non personality based and less frequent uploads because its impossible to make cartoons/animations daily) tend to have a lot more views even if the videos are older compared to some guy uploading daily videos (most people don't care to check the older videos and follow the new ones)
if you check mid tier personality based faggots most of their old videos barely have any comments etc

Hi im im the same guy, i do a job and get paid on BTC, so all of my BTC is unknown to gov, I can decide when to get it taxed if i ever cash out but i will never sell all of it, I dont know how it works desu (the taxing of BTC or taxing in general since i've never made normal money lol)

>(Educational videos, some comedy skits/cartoons, "youtube documentary" type videos, etc)

this is my goal, it has to do with "cartoons"
I want to make random videos and also series, that will hopefully attract the tween crowd then random people as once you get traffic volume the youtube algorithm will push the videos upon more people, those kind of videos (non personality based and less frequent uploads because its impossible to make cartoons/animations daily) tend to have a lot more views even if the videos are older compared to some guy uploading daily videos (most people don't care to check the older videos and follow the new ones)
if you check mid tier personality based faggots most of their old videos barely have any comments etc

>>1002709
>(non personality based and less frequent uploads because its impossible to make cartoons/animations daily) tend to have a lot more views
My thoughts exactly. The other upside is how much more share-able the videos are. Nobody will care to send their friends a vlog or a gaming commentary but you can get serious numbers out of a video that's highlighting a current event or humoring at trend.

>>999319

>implying Napoleone will not knock the shit out of you

>>1002423
I've had the idea that you shouldn't upload too frequently, but apparently you make it sound like the more often you do it the better.

If one could produce one good content video or two a day, would it be good to then upload one or two vids a day?

>>997900
onision is that you

don't let this thread die faggots

>>1003081
also

>>1003081
I think OP abandoned the thread once it hit bump limit but I'm pretty sure Youtube just rewards you for how "loyal" your subscribers are. If you're uploading 2 a day and lots of subscribers are viewing and interacting then sure go ahead. If you're uploading 2 a day and only 1 or 2 videos per week get a large amount of subscribers viewing then you'll get punished.

If you look at Vsauce and other channels that upload very infrequently but put out A+ quality content, Google seems to favour them the most.