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Read the previous thread last 100 posts for why TSLA will hit 400 soon.

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>>9990710

>> No.9997979
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Full self driving TSLA soon.

>> No.9998006

Also, lastly that's a bit of insider info but w/e
Tesla has contracted a bunch of chip design companies (STMicro for imagers, Nvidia for video processing) for its self-driving tech, but under the terms of the contract all the IP will belong to those contractors.

>> No.9998043

>>9998006
bit of insider info on my shitposting, it's half shitposting.

>> No.9998073

>>9997926
>"visualizing that it's going to go up" is a valid reason to invest.
lol no its not
ur gonna get so creamed and not even know why m8. no amount of thought vector is gonna change that TSLA is trading at a serious premium to its actual value, and if things keep goin this way (this way)... theyre gonna break some shit real soon. ya see, its all about the he said she said bullshit (its all hype). so i think ya better quit it, talkin that shit... or youll be leavin with a fatlip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpUYjpKg9KY

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threadly reminder that a literal grain is already outperforming TSLA on a percentage basis this year

>> No.9998165

This whole self-driving stuff is old and Tesla will go fucking down, because their value is driven from false promisses and wrong premisses.

I worked for Daimler for a while, a couple of years back (around 2015/16). They have the soft- & hardware done for years already. I even know how much it would cost them to add this to existing trucks (calculating some parts of this was my job) - it is absolutely ridiculously cheap, compared to the total cost of the vehicle.

And this is not even a secret. Daimler conducted public tests on this stuff. But it was not presented with a fancy new and innovative car and a big show for the shareholders, but just a big truck on a freeway in Germany and a couple of articles in newspapers. They also backed down on several issues for no reason on its functionalities, because they rather want to be sure it works.

They scaled down the speed to 80 Km/h, even though the device works no different at 140 Km/h. They added "it may cause problems during heavy rain", even though the amount for it to stop because of rain is not even seen outside of asia during monsoon season.

Holy shit, the whole Tesla-Train will hit a solid wall on the side of a mountain, the fallout will not be even funny anymore.

>> No.9998203

>>9998165
Also don't forget that Sergio Marchionne made a specific point of not bothering to invest in self-driving vehicles because in his words
>there's no differentiation in the technologies - it's either safe or it isn't

I've always suspected that at some point Tesla will pivot away from car manufacturing and focus on their battery stuff. Perhaps becoming a supplier to other car companies or even a variety of industries. I've never understood the idea of making a low-cost, middle range EV, Telsa should have gone for the premium market.

>> No.9998273

>>9998165
>Holy shit, the whole Tesla-Train will hit a solid wall on the side of a mountain, the fallout will not be even funny anymore.
yes it will. we will watch hi IV anon go through the 5 stages of grief in front of our very eyes.

i wish they were actually compentent enough to manufacture and put out the cars en masse so that they could all start crashing into people and provide the short of a lifetime

>> No.9998299

>>9998203
This wont work with the ego of Musk. He sees Tesla as the new major player, even above Daimler, VW, GM etc. and will not be happy, as long as he does not count as a messiah, that solved global warming and all the problems of capitalism.

Musk is a crook and what he created is not a sustainable company but a ego-driven clusterfuck, which will end in bankruptcy and lawsuits. And in the end, many people will ask themselves "how could we not see this", neglecting that many people warned to not trust Musk for years again and again.

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>>9998157
KEK, if posting that was satisfactory for you then here is a (you) as profit.

>> No.9998312

guys its saturday...

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>>9998312
Who cares I want one of us to get that GET but a bot will probably take it. Besides I enjoy off topic shitposting

>> No.9998363

So a whole lot of people are in the IQ meme. But how many fell for HUYA, another chinese meme company?

>> No.9998408

Stock noob here. How as a burger can I purchase Canadian stock? what do you all use?

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Anybody here know anything about money rituals? Something that will guide me to make as much money as possible? And have it in my subconscious? My tulpas been golden haired for a few months to always remind me.
I work 12 hours a day at 11 an hour at 88 hours a week...I want all the money in the world hahaha
I casted a spell last night of COMPLETE IMMERSION hheehe meaning every thing that I do will be associated with MONEY hehehe reading writing totally exciting I'm going to be the biggest of the earth anything to achieve my money LUST hehehe

Also...redpill me on farms. Are they profitable at all?

>> No.9999008

>>9998937
I just glanced over your copy pasted post and I won't believe that you are not underage b8.
>redpill me
/pol/tard confirmed. But seriously unless you're inheriting million dollar farm equipment you can forget about being a farmer.

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>>9998363
Me.

>> No.9999048

The Uber I took to go to work broke down on me .__. I'm late and I'm going to get fired.

>> No.9999054

>>9998937
stop posting this stupid shit every thread thanks

>> No.9999118

>>9998408
First try to search if your canadian company stock isn't already listed also on us stock exchanges like nyse or Nasdaq

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>> No.9999429

anons, why didn't you buy facebook stock during the cambridge analytica scandal?

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So it's Saturday and everyone must have had a good nights sleep to think about the week. How'd you all do? Did you all enjoy your lunches? Make gains? Learn from your losses? Tell me about your week, anons

>> No.10000293

>>9999767
Everything in the green except my chinkshit.

>> No.10000735

>>10000000

>> No.10000742

>>9998165
>>9998203
>>9998273
>>9998299
such low iq posts

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>>9999767
Monday better be a Green day, I SWEAR TO GOD

>> No.10001252

>>10001227

we're going through a long period of momentum loss. the longer we go the more likely we've seen a top back in January. sorry bro we're going dooooooown

>> No.10001266

>>9999017
When did you enter?

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>>9998157
is this reasonable conclusion for make?
can me just start comparing things to wheat then talking shit about them if they not out preform?

>> No.10001668

>>9999999

>> No.10001690

>>9998157
such bad reasoning

>> No.10001825

>>10000742
You don't even have a third of the IQ in my possession faggot.

>> No.10001846

Thoughts on ABIL?

>> No.10001850

>>10001825
he's talking about brains not the Chinese scam

>> No.10001858

>>10000742
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-22/how-disruption-auto-business-actually-works

If you think auto companies are getting taken for a ride by TSLA, Read. This isn't their first rodeo. If anything, tech companies are the ones who have no learned from the past and could be in for disruption. I guarantee no one at FANGs seriously thinks they can become the next Xerox or HP. That will be their undoing.

>> No.10001887

Who here is excited for that HMNY bullrun next week? I've been taking that Tesla/AMD guy's advice and visualizing it going way up next week.

>> No.10001921

>>10001850

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>>10001887
>HMNY bullrun
I'm ready for that dogpoo to be pink sheet'd

>> No.10001961

anybody trading crude? Thoughts on the nearly 6% up day yesterday? Im thinking we test mid 70s

>> No.10001985

>>10001961
If you expect more trouble in the middle east than is normal, it will down. If things are calmer than normal, it will go up.

Trouble -> need money and want to fuck over the others guys -> sandies pumping extra oil and selling under the table

>> No.10002176

>>10001858
>https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-22/how-disruption-auto-business-actually-works

You're dumb. So car companies with no competition in one of the best economic eras for USA ever had some gay experience with tire technology

top fucking kek that article is retarded.

>> No.10002198

>>10002176
>You're dumb. So _____ companies with no competition in one of the best economic eras for ____ ever had some gay experience with ______ technology

Thanks for the madlib

>> No.10002211

>>10002198
>hurr american tire companies didn't invest in a better technology and got creamed when actual competition arrived
this is such a good story, so enlightening

don't link zerohedge trash articles. The reasoning behind that article and conclusions are completely fucking braindead.

>> No.10002214

>>9997950
>"We don't need anymore capital. We will be profitable in Q3."

Read between the lines

>> No.10002263

>>10002211
What exactly is your point? You seem to be arguing the exact same thing the article is but whining about the article.

Do you think car companies are NOT invested in/ready for EV should the market demand it?

>> No.10002310

>>10002263
I went into this last thread.

Also it's literally the easiest deduction any fucking person could make.

>> No.10002349

>>10002310
Oh, you're just uninformed/wrong. Thankfully I am an adult with a functioning brain who understands reality, not a technology worshiping psuedo-intellectual who think machine learning is going to get us to mars. Carry on.

>> No.10002398

>>10002349
l o w IQ

>> No.10002411

what are some rock solid stocks with generous dividends? I need passive income and I don't feel like losing any more money on options

>> No.10002418

>>10002411
T

>> No.10002444

anyone else here /terminal/?

>> No.10002465

>>10002444
maybe. been bleeding into the toilet but don't care if i am or not. it's all the same

>> No.10002471
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holy shit what the fuck happened

>> No.10002474

>>10002444
whats the situation?

>> No.10002488

>>10002471
kernel panic

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I had a dream last night where I was told to buy MICROSOFT

BUY MICROSOFT first thing on Monday!

>> No.10002498

>>10002488
nice

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>>10002411
Rock solid? Go with JPM, Air Products, and Clorox
You bee reciving divs next month for these and they are still low priced

>> No.10002520

>>10002349
to reiterate. I analyzed your post and was quickly confident it was just someone stupid. In that case the only way you can agree with me is if you completely kill your own ego and realize I'm just more intelligent. This is highly unlikely.

Your arguments are so stupid they aren't worth even discussing and you have yet to even show a sign of understanding what I'm talking about with regards to TSLA valuation being "450" in a high IQ world.

>> No.10002619

Money is literally all that matters in this world double time work hard magick is for women men are for Jocko willing (god) and had work

/Thread

>> No.10002633

All I wanna do is short the market at the right time, when is the next big crash coming?

>> No.10002647

>>10002633
monday, 10:32 AM

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>>10002619

>>10002633
not this year

>> No.10002682

>>10002520
I'm convinced that a few years ago you would have been here shilling Enron. After all, those were some really high IQ fellas.

>> No.10002700

What's the cheapest way to get your teeth fixed?

>> No.10002709

>>10002700
go to the dental school at your local community college

>> No.10002735

>>10002709
That's a good idea...I shouldn't get braces there though

>>10002653
She looks so soft...I wish I had a tranny gf

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>>10002633
2019.

>> No.10002810

>>10001858
ya ever get the odd feeling some of these zerohedge dudes lurk here? i know i do. its not the first time something weve discussed here has ended up published, in detail, as an article on zerohedge between several hours to a day after we discuss it. and i know that they know that *chan users are their primary target audience.

i hope they are here. most of their political stuff is kinda just reactionary slush imo, but their market shit is almost always leagues better than anything else out there.

>>9998310
LOL
>>10000742
>>10001690
*this triggers the TSLA cultist*

>>10001317
yes
if going /all-in/, and buying and holding a large silo of wheat, yields you superior returns to one of the major players on the nasdaq, its ogre

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>>10002633
within 4 months

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why do I have a feeling I will get bogged hard as fuck if I sell IQ? I got bogged twice already after selling IQ and the stock spiked hard. no sure to keep or lock my gains.

>> No.10002846

>>9999767
I invested my first $500 on Wednesday. I'm back up to $501. So it was pretty groovy, doods.

>> No.10002858

>>10002735
>That's a good idea...I shouldn't get braces there though
you shouldnt get braces at all desu senpai
just move to the UK or europe. youll fit right in

>> No.10002869

>>10002791

Thank You big brain guy

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So how are you doing guys

>> No.10002876

>>10002869
hes wrong tho
this guy is right >>10002813
its gonna be this fall

>> No.10002879

>>10002633
the the SP500 will crash all the way to 4000 by 2020

>> No.10002919

>>10002879

I wanna short the S and P, shorting funds have never been cheaper, usually a good sign for a market reversal.

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>>10002858
I actually dream of living in Japan. I've studied Japanese and I want to die there

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>>9997979

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>>10002919
oh? I guess its over then. Good luck small spec

>> No.10003011

>>10002954

Well all measures of optimism are through the roof, that usually means a trend reversal is coming.

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>>10003011
stop saying stupid things
this is what happens before a reversal

>> No.10003095

>>10002874
Not too bad. I had a lot of green days this past week.
However, I'm making small time investments just to get the hang of it.

>> No.10003157

>>10003033

Yield curve inversions are not always good indicators, we've had several yield curve inversions since 2008 and no great recession.

>> No.10003182

>>10002845
watch china sunday night

>> No.10003196

>>10002682
this makes me wanna go through the archives of some old stock talk forum back in 2001 and search for enron shills. just for comparative analysis. im thoroughly convinced that at some point in the future, the burden of proof will be shifted onto TSLA (never turned profit, losing record amounts of money each quarter and calling it a beat, and like anon said, are already WAY behind in the EV market), and the house of cards will fall in on itself. there is literally nothing to that stock other than hype. i could see them, if they begin to focus on batteries more, being valued at a more reasonable price, between 50-66% below what theyre trading at now.

>>10002927
also this. ill be damned if i ever step foot in one of those things. fucking CIAniggers are gonna wrap me around a telephone pole by remote control.

>>10002920
i always wanted to get big in japan desu senpai
i found out the other day that some radio DJ in osaka has been playing some of my records a lot tho, so who the fuck knows? could happen i guess. japans definitely got problems though economically speaking. not sure if being gaijin over there in the event of an economic rugpull will be a lot of fun.

its an absolutely beautiful country though. i always wanted to go to osaka. and yokohama seems like a really cute little spot with beautiful countryside just outside it. not sure if i could handle tokyo/osaka-life tho. big cities fuck w me

heres a cool stop-motion video that some japanese band made. they go all throughout yokohama and then move out into the countryside into the woods by the end of it. never seen something so beautiful and alien in my whole life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaicC0AFwUc
the bands not really my thing desu, but the drummer they got is fucking incredible, and the vid is masterfully done

>>10003033
are you talking about a difference in candle pattern? or just that large speccs are more patient and wait for the bulltrap?

>> No.10003202

>>10003033
you didn't put high IQ investors on that graph

>> No.10003209

>>10003196
imagine being this low IQ and writing all that garbage thinking someone wants to eat stinking pig slop.

>> No.10003214

>>10003202
lol yea he did
hi IQ investors were buying calls on memestocks the whole way down on those giant red dildos, and experiencing total loss

>> No.10003234

>>10003214
the crash was obv

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>>10003157
>we've had several since 2008
fuck off commie

>> No.10003258

>>10003196
nothing to do with the candles....
look at any recession and the same thing happens
>but muh every crash is different
No, it isnt

>> No.10003263

like to every1 who wanna argue

I have TSLA 350 calls for July 6.

Just use that as a barometer, you can check the price right now and now how I will do on them in the next 2 weeks.

>> No.10003268

>>10003234
then why did so many people lose everything in the markets?
people thought it was gonna go back up. if you look at each of those candles, there was a large rally at the end of every single one of those monthly candles. it probably looked, from that perspective, that things were simply going to recover at the end of every month, and then the next month came, and the whole market continued on downwards

>> No.10003280

>>10003268
I don't know. I wasn't in the markets at the time. Remember talking to a construction company owner about housing market in 2006. We laughed about the phrase "It always goes up". Lots of people knew it was bullshit.

>> No.10003317

>>10003268
the banks were crashing with no survivors and everyone was saying to stay out of the markets

>> No.10003328

Buffet himself was saying to stay out of the markets in 2008

>> No.10003335

>>10003263
lol i definitely took note of that when you told me last thread m8.
those are extremely near term calls that you, once again, bought at hi IV.
good luck

>>10003258
lol relax nikkei, i dont think were crashing just yet desu. i think were just gonna continue to range for the rest of the year though. but then im also partial to calc-gambles theory that midterms will be a time of large gains for the whole market

>>10003280
to be fair tho, a lot of those guys building houses at that tie had a MUCH clearer view of what was happening on a macro scale than most in the market at the time. they, after all, were the ones BUILDING all the overvalued houses and trying to off em as quickly as possible. they knew it was a sham, but it was profitable for them to build them still, so they did

>>10003317
i gotcha

>> No.10003352

>>10003335
this is no time for relax, this is the time for action

The entire run up to 2008 had increasing volatility
right now volatility gets lower as we go, Major bullish signal

>> No.10003357

>>10003335
yep pretty much. They knew it was stupid as fuck the entire time, for years before the crash. They just immediately halted all construction plans after the crash and walked away with mad mad dosh. He had kept pretty low risk and the initial slow down was pretty obvious before the summer crash that knocked everything down.

Selling tons of homes to Californians who just walked away with big money off their own homes.

>> No.10003408

>>10003352
oh im buying m8
were just buying different stuff. i have no doubt that youre gonna come out smelling like roses, as even if this IS late-stage bull, the place to be in those times is consumers. not to mention your taxes are gonna be a lot prettier than mine, as youre less schizophrenic with your positions kek

>>10003357
yea its that old adage
>the people who made the most money during the goldrush, werent the miners. they were the guys selling the wheelbarrows and pickaxes

>> No.10003409

>>10003352
It's going to be bullish. Self-driving technology would be enough to give enough GDP growth to offset all the cancerous shit.

the way I perceive it is we are entering a feast and famine market. The strong are going to devour the weak much, much, much more than in the past 20 years.

TSLA is relatively safe because it is entirely focused on future exponential areas (Solar, EV, etc) and can attract top talent.

I'm not the biggest bull on TSLA though. Right now AMD is what I perceive as amazing value (I like nvidia overall more but not the current price)

The initial strategy my brain spat out at me was to play AMD this year. TSLA short term this summer for easy gains. Then diversify EOY back into INTC/AMD/NVIDIA and other tech hardware companies.

>> No.10003439

>>10003357
>Selling tons of homes to Californians who just walked away with big money off their own homes.
most major cities are like this. almost no one can actually live in them because people have been using and trading houses as an asset class again. on one hand i understand, as real-estate is dope. but on the other hand, (at least in cali and places like that) youve got people buying shit houses at several multitudes the value of what theyre actually worth, and somehow actually managing to flip them to some other assholes for even MORE money.

i think we shouldve done something to regulate the housing market, in addition to actually punishing the banks back in 08. its like everyone up and forgot what happened.

>> No.10003445

I hate niggers

>> No.10003458

>>10003439
>youve got people buying shit houses at several multitudes the value of what theyre actually worth, and somehow actually managing to flip them to some other assholes for even MORE money.
Location is a value in itself. Californian land isn't interchangeable with land in a middle of the desert without road access.

>> No.10003464

>>10003439
Just wait for some innovation to 1/2 the cost of constructing housing and watch the entire market die.

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>>10003458
>not accumulating sweet sweet desert wasteland

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>> No.10003479

>>10003464
No you brainlet. Land prices won't drop because some innovation reduces building costs.

>> No.10003521

>>10003479
depends on too much. Logistical improvements like self-driving cars or meme tunnels could kill the housing market alone.

There's a lot of variables. I just meant innovation in housing construction could really fuck up the whole "buy homes as asset" models. If all those 10 year old homes are worth dogshit because HAL 3000 roboprinters are making better homes for cheap.

>> No.10003529

>>10003474
>not buying a houseboat and living on the free ocean travling to uncharted islands

>> No.10003551

>>10003458
>Location is a value in itself.
true, but that value can become inflated just as anything else can. like lets take annaheim for example. theres work in that area. good paying jobs too. but even those wages arent even close to covering the cost of living out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45qSj4_DVxs
theres gonna be a return to the mean and a lot of people are gonna lose everything. again.

>>10003464
i dont think thats how its gonna happen desu. like anon said, the location is the value in and of itself. it will continue to soar as long as there are buyers. but real-estate is illiquid. after it gets too high again, there will be no more buyers, and after everyone starts panicking, the prices will drop to wherever there is a buyer. ie FAR below the price any of these speculators bought it for

>> No.10003584

get in $tndm. trust me i have diabetes

you have been warned

>> No.10003585

>>10003476

>trusting a guy that can't spell dying

>> No.10003610

>>10003551
Don't know. I'd guesstimate that self-driving tech (if and when it works commercially) could change real estate equations pretty heavily.

The big problem is all this stuff takes time to happen and requires people pushing the tech aggressively.

>> No.10003613

>>10003584
someone was shilling me on diabeetus medicine. i think it was that one. elaborate?

>> No.10003623

>>10003551
Hey its the people I used to buy heroin from!

>> No.10003639
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10003639

prefab built in the desert - blue sky buildings

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another

Still wouldn't want one right now though due to infrastructure tech still being meh, it's getting better thoug

>> No.10003664

>>10003649
how does water supply works in this one?

>> No.10003665

>>9999767
>-$3.90 (-0.18%) Past Week

>> No.10003668

>>10003664
you just drink your own piss and cover all plants in the area in plastic trash bags to collect water

>> No.10003674

>>10003623
lol
same way in the bay area too. ive been there once like 10 years ago, met some weird crackhead/junkie. went back like 8 years later, dude was still on that same corner (somewhere off haight). those junkies know they got it made in the shade out there. its like the gulf coast of florida for degenerates. the junkie retirement plan

>> No.10003704

>>10003668
no but seriously, I'd expect at some point you'd be able to get some amount of water via dehumidifier collection. The desert still has humidity, more at night.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/04/new-solar-powered-device-can-pull-water-straight-desert-air

>> No.10003776

>>10003521
I don't know, so far all the technological progresses have made people concentrate in large metropolises.

I'm no sociologist tho, my masters are in ChemE and NanoE.

>> No.10003786

>>10003613
>elaborate?
no

>> No.10003799

>>10003776
I agree. I think it might be a better business opportunity than investment opportunity. Although most of the business would be about expensive shit like delivery to site, hooking up all the systems (solar/dehumidifier/recycling/garden set up)

>> No.10003801

>>10003521
i know the chinese have been working on 3d printing houses.
you wanna talk about hosing bubbles, holy shit, the chinese are gonna have their shit pushed in when theirs pops. hence why smartmoney in china has been buying up land in other countries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcyYyyaPz84
pretty funny how the govt is complicit in it too. no one cares as theyre all still getting paid.

the govt gives subsidies to people whos houses they want to knock down. they pay out based on how many floors they have. so when its announced that their neighborhood is getting plowed down, they hastily throw up 2 or 3 extra floors as shoddily as possible so they can get paid out more. the govt doesnt care because, sans the payouts to the people whos houses are getting demod, theyre essentially getting the land for free, and flipping it to real-estate tycoons who develop it, then flip it to new-upper-middleclass suckers in china (the new, dumb money). its gonna be these folks that buy the three extra properties with intent to flip em, that are gonna get burned. the govt and the real big money are gonna be just fine most likely

>> No.10003803

yes you should buy CAT
yes you should buy SWK
yes you should buy BA

>> No.10003841

>>10003613
TNDM just got their insuline pump approved. I think that anon just got one in the form of an anal plug from his favorite doctor who was over enthusiastic over his new device

>> No.10003850

>>10003841
kek
>>10003786
thx just bought 100k

>> No.10003884

yes you should buy Honeywell

>> No.10003886

>>10003776
Look at the sci-fi literature (cyberpunk) and their recurrent theme of sprawling megalopolis to get a glimpse of the future
Automation in delivery and transport, the tunnel shit, I don't think they are meant to connect people from remote areas

I see them as devices to optimize living in cramped spaces (less road traffic for example).
Also, that will even further isolate areas not within a pre-established network of cities

>> No.10003903

>>10003850
yeah
maybe you should buy 100k
Might be a good idea to take a look at their liquidity position because they light want to make a share offering to raise cash off this (price) pump

>> No.10003925

>>10003886
the wanting of the dual also increases

>> No.10003938

>>10003903
imma prolly buy some desu
looking into it at least for now

>> No.10003945

what are the best leveraged etfs for trading?

>> No.10003966

>>10003945
cqqq

>> No.10003984

>>10003945
go all in on FAS monday morning for free money

>> No.10004027
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So today I was taking an Uber and got late for work and it saved me fifteen dollars because he offered me a refund because the car broke down and I had to walk. His battery died and I had to push his car. Did I get economically lucky?

>> No.10004029

>>9998408
Leaf stocks are either on the nasdaq, nyse, or OTC market. I assume you wanna dude weed it? Recommend US weed companies instead. US tickers have been picking up momentum as legal climate is slowly changing. Canadian companies are already pumped up crazy high with the possible exception of APH, TRST, and a couple of the pharma labs like RTI and TBP. Keep an eye out for Acreage Holdings IPO and Tilray IPO.

>> No.10004066
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I'm going to start buying 1 share of AMRS and maybe 1 share of DRYS every week to begin accumulate.
If you had to build a list of smg meme stocks, what would you put on the list?

>> No.10004072

>>10004066
DCIX

>> No.10004098

>>10004066
ROAD Comfy
Trust your official AUIC analyst (yes, look at Bakkafrost since the time I shilled it in our first bunker in Reddit)

>> No.10004122

>>10004072
BIG 5 Guy list:
BGFV
ALT
GBR
LCI
ODP
NMM

Meta List:
AMRS
DRYS
DCIX
Short AMD
Short/Long Tesla
HMNY

Consumer memes:
KO
Pepsi
NWL
Deans
Cam bells soup

I need more retarded penny/pharma memes for the list

>>10004098
also ROAD YES

>> No.10004127

>>9998006
I think its Infineon now, they out bid STMicro in 2018

>> No.10004152

>>10004122
pharma memes

Shire (adderall)
Pfizer (zoloft)
Gen Z memes

>> No.10004168

>>10004122
>need more retarded penny/pharma memes for the list

Tetra BioPharma and Radient Technologies will 2x minimum before October.

>> No.10004179

>>10004127
Got the info last week from a head of the R&D at STMicro, Tesla would be using the FD-SOI imagers (global shutter), the catch 22 is that STM has to fund the development, the masks and the industrialisation.

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>>10003945
the SOXX ones usually have good trends one way or another as the industry is cyclical
>SOXL 3x long
>SOXS 3x short

also this >>10003984
but only if we see a gap up on monday.
if its a gap down, it could be signaling some more choppy trading.

choppy stuff is not the kind of stuff you wanna hold 3x leveraged ETFs on imo. ive fucked myself more than once, by buying long 3x ETFs that were trending upwards, but had selloffs over night. youll end up getting pulled under even if the underlying goes up if ts really bad (pic related is imo an ETF to NOT use leverage on due to how the AH action has been opposite the trend a lot of the time).

when youre looking for leveraged ETFs, the most important thing is to be on something that trends very cleanly. hence why i recommended the SOXX (im leaning more towards short on this one desu)

>> No.10004201

>>10004152
These pharma memes are too large, we need micro moon missions

>>10004168
Good micro memes, s00n we're all going to make it

>> No.10004226

>>10004122
crispr

>> No.10004301
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10004301

just read this
BASED if true
Buffet saved my life

>> No.10004311

>>10004122
>short AMD
>short TSLA
this shit is boggling

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>>10004201
>micro memes
i like this idea
ive actually done alright on my recent micro cap endeavors, and they tend to move independently of major market FUD. GBR is a good one due to the recent buyout, and its relative stability even throughout oil prices. if this new owner isnt just flipping it, and actually puts forth the effort to utilize the oil fields they already have, with stable/bullish oil prices, they could increase several times what they are worth in a short (several month) time. look at other oil memes trading at $4 that dont even HAVE oil.
rmyt...

>>10004226
theres smaller cap, or at least smaller priced gene editing memes out there. im partial to EDIT as i made a lot of money on them last year. i havent kept up with the sector since i stopped trading em tho, so idk where its at. i know the industry is VERY far off from being profitable tho

>> No.10004330

>>10004301
NICE
buy FAS then, or maybe just zone in on BAC for max buffett-sama boost

>>10004311
as bearish as i am on them, i agree. the way theyve been squeezing retail shorts is brutal. lol i dont need that shit in my life rn

>> No.10004345

>>10004330
After looking it up, it appears Jozez confused it for headlines exactly one year ago

>> No.10004355

>>10004345
lol
well i guess thats why we dont trade off of youtube comment shills

>> No.10004369

>>10004355
still, buy BAC at 28.99 and below or youre scum

>> No.10004442

>>10004301
I wonder if he will every invest in IQ. Buffet always says great things about china and how it will surpass the US economically in the future.

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>>10003584
Jesus lol
Did they cute diabetes?
Me remember when this was @ $8

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Being in TSLA must suck having to literally watch every tweet elon makes

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1010578767096438784
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1010458705513537536

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>>10004474

>> No.10004666

>>10004369
lel
if it goes below there im waiting till stoch tells me when senpai
i am interested in div tho and it seems likely they will pump it anyways

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>>10004666
>stoch rsi
ohhhh boy
we do have fundamental catalysts in place fyi

>> No.10004756

>>10004717
no, i know. bullish on rising rates too. but its been choppy as hell and i havent seen anything yet that tells me i should buy it.

>> No.10004776

>>10004756
its a big ass bull flag!
at the very least its ranging and its currently at the range bottom

>> No.10004780

>>10004717
if i miss buying in for like 50cents, im not gonna be too butthurt on it. its just every time ive seen BAC have a huge bearish engulfing candle out of nowhere its been followed by a bunch of literal garbage days, with institutional selling in off-hours

>> No.10004801

>>10004780
because its so popular and many small specs are buying
Just Buy nya
The worst case scenorio is it fake out breakouts to 27, in which case you go all in

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>>10002810
;_;
T_T

>> No.10004835
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>>10004776
yeah i see it on the monthly one
i just feel like its been trading above its range for a while now, and at the very least is showing signs of slowing down, even in spite of a more profitable interest environment for them

>>10004818
wheat and BTC are inversely correlated it seems lol

>> No.10004851

>>10004801
lol so youre saying that large speccs see all the small speccs buying in and are JUSTing them to get more shares for themselves at these discount prices?

seems fucking very likely actually now that i think about it like that

>> No.10004876

>>10004818
baka kneepads

>>10004835
they havent even filled the 2008 gap yet (and there were NO reverse splits like other banks did) Its going nowhere but up

>>10004851
its not a Bog meme, thats literally how large specs are taught to do

>> No.10004930

>>10004876
i just want a continuation is all desu
>its not a Bog meme, thats literally how large specs are taught to do
oh no, i definitely wasnt just memeing. this seems very likely. if it bounces clean off that keltner channel again, im definitely hopping in. whenever it does that, it continues steeply up for years afterwards
>NO reverse splits like other banks did
pretty wild how they were able to pull that off honestly

lol, just drop to $4/shr and continue on like nothing happened. can you imagine buying BAC at 4 fuggin doll hairs? christ

>> No.10004932

>>10004818
delete this

>> No.10004957
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10004957

First published in 1969 by the MIT Press, Arcology: The City In The Image of Man has become legendary among scholars, architects, artists, and librarians around the world.

>> No.10004986
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>>10004930
my grandpa bought BAC at $7 and gave them to me

also
>Kelter Channels
*snap*

>> No.10005021 [DELETED] 

novanoah

>> No.10005038

>>10004957
this image is too low IQ for a true ethereal brain

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>>10005021
fuck why no image

novanoah II

1969 by the MIT Press, Arcology: The City In The Image of Man

>> No.10005049

>>10004986
>my grandpa bought BAC at $7 and gave them to me
thats dope as fuck
your pops was a brave man. things mustve looked bleak around then

also
whats wrong with keltner channels? i like em, they help me to see how overextended things are as well as giving me an idea on the momentum. im starting to use them more than itchy clouds desu

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>>10005038
True, it's only interesting because it's old and coined the phrase Arcology.

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>>10005049
they did look bleak, both him and my father whom was a hedge fund manager lost nearly everything, and never recovered
Never. Recovered. Total. Loss.


TA is useless when you have buffet vision. At some point you just know when to buy and sell

>> No.10005096

I just finished working and laying in bed. How can I make myself more wealthy or make myself more useful to the economy?

>> No.10005115

>>10005096
Due diligence

>> No.10005139

>>10004029
You are correct in your weed assumptions. I read that acreage holdings is going to go public in Canada but it looks like the brokerage firms slap requirements on investing in IPOs that I don't meet yet. What brokerage firm should I go for with loose standards for IPO participation?

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>>10005091
>both him and my father whom was a hedge fund manager lost nearly everything, and never recovered
pretty scary thinking about going through something like that and having a huge portfolio like that. theres simply no way to move money on that scale to be able to get out of the way in time, even if you see it coming.

and im workingon my buffett vision so keltner channels it is for now

my commodities vision is coming together nicely. caught both oil and wheat this week to the DAY. pretty excited

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>>10005156
monthly is looking good too. dollar hit resistance and should fall little bit. at least until next rate hike i dont think were gonna see another chad move like it had

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>>10005096
Have you already read The Wealth of Nations ?

>> No.10005271

Thoughts on buying stock in CD Projekt (GPW:CDR) for long term holding (1-2y)?

>> No.10005293

>>10005258
By Adam Smith? Its too high iq for me .__. I've read a few books on economics so I know the basics. Maybe I'll try to read it again. Not like I'm doing anything else right now.

>>10005115
?

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>>10005293
It's really easy to read and it's really nice on a historical point of view. I also advise you to read Democracy in America and The Old Regime and the Revolution by Tocqueville.

>> No.10005323

>>10005271
3 Months: +67.10%, YTD: +125.31%

damn

>> No.10005341

>>10005320
I'll check it out. Only books I've read were basic economics. Well most of it...Tony Robbins book on investing which is based actually. Also intelligent investor which I basically finished. I have a hard time finishing books.

>> No.10005371

>>10005323
Yup.

CD Projekt is a sincere gaming company heavily favoured by the entire gaming community, with a solid foundation in their gaming platform + track record of great, loved games (Witcher series).

In short, CD Projekt has: good games (sincere quality - no micro-transactions, e.g. loot boxes), a game distribution platform (GOG.com - DRM free steam competitor), and more good shit. Downsides are obviously time in-between games, as well as getting fucked if a game does bad. Current outlook is that Cyperpunk 2077, their next AAA game (last was Witcher 3), will be really fucking good, and I think that if they expand their team and shorten development timeline of new games (alternatively have multiple AAA at the same time), then they are worth way more than they are now, even without micro-transactions like Activision and EA has, and which they are hated for.

CD Projekt stock is great, simply put.

>> No.10005390

>>10005271
polan stronk

>>10005371
no shit. i just got 1 and 2 on GOG sale for like 2 bucks. imma go play those. i need to stop looking at charts for a second kek

>> No.10005416

>>10005371
It's great but the price reflects that. I wouldn't be able to judge whether it's a good idea or not, except CD projekt red is as good as any to invest in. You might have to wait longer than 1-2 years though.

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>>10005371
>Cyberpunk

>> No.10005443

Maybe I should spend some time reading and meditating on wealth of nation's. I mean it's better than being on my bed on 4chan right?

>> No.10005447

>>10005416
Also game developers shit the bed really fast. They don't retain talent much and the top end people's brains just turn to mush after a while.

I doubt that will be as bad in Poland as in San Fran type places though.

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>oil prices collapse in 2014
>no new production or exploration as oil company budgets are decimated
>oil oversupply is over
>natural decline rates mean 4-5 million barrel of day new oil production needed every year
>massive looming supply shortage

Where my /oil bulls/ at? OPEC increased production and oil prices INCREASED, why? Because they admit there is a shortage.

Look at how low stocks like Chesapeake energy is, holy fucking shit this badboy will go back up to at least $30.

Get bullish on oil(prices will probably go back to $140/barrel and upwards of $300/barrel depending on central bank stimulation as the world economy begins to collapse) once oil prices peak SHORT EVERYTHING as the economy begins to collapse 2007 style.

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>>10005473
>not reading the tea leaves on oil's future

The big problem with oil is over time more people will realize it's future and that has a knock on effect. Right now we are barely at that start of it.

No one wants to get into oil because of the threat that the autonomous/EV era will become a higher % probability, which fucks all those oil reserve calculations and makes them want to PUMP.

>> No.10005522

>>10005416
Yes, I agree, the current price is high. Fine with waiting, honestly.

>> No.10005528

>>10005423
It's going to be great. If you haven't watched the trailer, do so now.

>> No.10005549

>>10005522
yeah I'd watch it and see how it moves desu, or go in a small safe %. The release date isn't till June 2019 and I don't think they will announce the parallel AAA game they are working on till closer to then or after.

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>>10005473
The companies themselves even admit they cannot keep production going

American fracking companies increased oil production 5 million barrel a day from 2008-2018, a DECADE for a measly 5mdb production, and we need that much EVERY YEAR just to keep production STEADY due to decline rates

Holy hell the magnitude of the supply shortage is so monstrous it cannot be understated

>>10005512
Nonsense, electric cars are a meme, look at oil use by sector, personal transportation is so minuscule compared to heavy industry it will not even make a dent

>> No.10005577

>>10005561
In 2016, motor gasoline consumption averaged about 9.3 million b/d (391 million gallons per day), the largest amount recorded and equal to about 47% of total U.S. petroleum consumption.

>> No.10005601

v. interesting points anon.

But don't you think higher prices in the short-term will massively incentivise higher production from American fracking? E.g. the relationship between price and production is nonlinear, an increase in expected future price can have a massive increase in production

>> No.10005648

holy fuck forget autonomous cars how the fuck can i invest in chinese 3-d printed houses???????? going all in no joke

>> No.10005716

>>10005601
Considering it took them a DECADE to go from 5 million bpd to 11million bpd, they will not be able to ramp up production fast enough, also unemployment in oil states is like 3% so they would not even be able to hire enough people even if they wanted to

Also keep in mind fracked oil fields deplete EXPONENTIALLY, so as soon as they increase production it starts plummeting again

>>10005577
Not relevant, electric cars are a novelty for silicons valley liberal types, purchasing of gas guzzling trucks and SUV's is at record levels and will offset any electric cars that come into the market(the amount is so small it is not relevant anyways) electric cars also use electricity which is generated by natural gas it doesn't really shift the energy use away from oil. You may say "what about more efficient combustion engines" also irrelevant, thanks to jevons paradox oil consumption will increase, this is why as engines have become more efficient people use the gains to drive bigger trucks and SUV's.

>> No.10005719

>>10005577
Gasoline is only a fraction of crude, it is physically impossible for 46 percent of all oil produced to be converted to gasoline.

>> No.10005747

>>10005648

$DDD

>> No.10005764

>>9999767
exited everything on the tuesday at 10 am, except for
DRYS, exited yesterday at 6.30 (dang went up to 6.60)
and I bought so much RHT, really got stupid and now I regret it. Why do things go down overnight like that?

>> No.10005777

>>10005648
>investing in vague ideas
>not on strong financial positions and fundamentals
P A T H E T I C

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>>10005716
Even the best case scenario predicts gasoline consumption increasing into 2030's, this also doesn't take into consideration the increase of natural gas needed to power the electric cars AND the oil needed for the heavy mining operations to make the batteries

>> No.10005801

>>10005780
>>10005719
>>10005716
low iq

>> No.10005857

>>10005801
Imagine this scenario, ALL personal vehicles are now electric(it will never happen), considering 80% of electricity is generated by fossil fuels, that doesn't change the carbon footprint much, thanks to commuting people are now charging their vehicles at the same time everyday in the evening when solar power becomes less useful, and what if is there is no wind? Well it looks like you need to burn more natural gas. I'm sorry but if you cannot grasp basic thermodynamics you are NOT high IQ

>> No.10005921

>>10004319
>look at other oil memes trading at $4 that dont even HAVE oil

Oilless oil companies, mineless mining companies, pharma companies with no patented meds and certainly no DINs. That's the good stuff.

>> No.10005925

>>10004201

filtered

>> No.10005926

>>10005857
It's the prediction of it happening increasing.

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>>10004835
;_;
wtb wheat plague + massive drought

>>10005156
ohh you using spreads for commodities!
was working on commodity game too!
have you ever heard of using BLS-raw industrial spreads for scalping? here example chart
whenever corn diverges too much from its BLS counterpart you sell / buy depending on which direction it diverged!

am asking have you ever heard / tried anything like this?

>> No.10005973

>>10005139
I usually just buy IPOs at opening bell on the first day they trade. Often sell a day or two later when the IPO folks take profit.

>> No.10006018

None of them quite factor in EV + Autonomous multiplication factor.


Gartman said that prices could rally a bit in a couple of weeks, but added “I’ll tell you one thing: in the long run, crude oil is heading egregiously lower. . .” Egregiously here means like shockingly.

Of Saudi Crown Prince Muhammad bin Salman, Gartman said, “He understands that crude oil, over the course of the next 20 to 40 years, is going to be a worthless commodity . . . It will be supplanted by something else.”

>> No.10006049

>>10006018
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2016/01/25/wont-see-44-crude-in-my-lifetime-gartman.html

lmao why would you listen to this guy

>> No.10006126

>>10006049
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-ev-oil-crisis/

>> No.10006129

>>10005925
You'll be better off for it desu

>> No.10006211

>>10006018
>Of Saudi Crown Prince Muhammad bin Salman, Gartman said, “He understands that crude oil, over the course of the next 20 to 40 years, is going to be a worthless commodity . . . It will be supplanted by something else.”

This is false, the problem the Saudis have is they produce 10 million barrels a day since the 1970's, but they have an exponential increase in unproductive population. The amount of oil they export is falling every year because their own population is consuming more and more oil. They need to develop a real economy not because oil is worthless, but because they face falling exports AND increasing welfare payments to their population, a double whammy to their economy.

>>10006126
>We found that electric vehicles could displace oil demand of 2 million barrels a day as early as 2023
>Using BNEF’s model, we’ll cross the oil-crash benchmark of 2 million barrels a few years later—in 2028

As I said in my earlier posts, due to annual natural declines of 4-5 million bpd, even with the electric cars there will a shortfall in oil production just to keep production STEADY not including increases, whoever wrote this article does not understand what the oil industry is facing and does not understand the decline rates

>> No.10006213

So anyway those predictions are static. Not taking into incentives of countries with cheaply available oil to start pumping more as it becomes clearer and earlier that the commodity will be worthless. It also doesn't really take into account what autonomous fleet services would do to oil/ICE demand and allow for much more expensive batteries per car.

>> No.10006231

>>10006211
you're wrong

>> No.10006254
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10006254

how far will 25 dollars take me at Chillies?

>> No.10006262

>T day
>Tesla turns on fleet taxi app
>every single TESLA in the world becomes a taxi service when not in usage through their own locked down APP service
>all capital investment in vehicles is paid for from customers

It's funny lowIQ people can't understand what TSLA is doing. They are a Fleet Service company already. The cars are already being driven around by TESLA employees collecting all sorts of sensor data (aka all buyers).

Tesla is fucking ahead of the game in a billion different ways.

>> No.10006281

>>10006254
buzzed and fed. but since they put in those gay tablets at every table i'll never go back

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>>10006254

>> No.10006318

>>10006254
Don't go to Chilis. Save 20 dollars of it to spend on buying a few acres of land in the middle of the desert

Spend the other 5 on beans and potatoes

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>>10006281
>>10006294
Just looked at the back of the gift card
This 25 dolar Chilies card can also be used at the follwing:
On The Border mexican Bar and Grill
Romanos Macaroni Grill
and: Maggianos Little Italy

Which is best? Also those sound more expensive

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>>10006213
>countries with cheaply available oil to start pumping more as it becomes clearer and earlier that the commodity will be worthless

As pointed out by the oil companies themselves in this image>>10005561 this will only increase decline rates leading to shortage and skyrocketing prices

You also completely ignore the fact that electrification is irrelevant due to the fossil fuel dependence of the electrical grid and absolute minuscule effect solar and wind have on world energy production, even the current best case scenario for green energy(Germany) renewables can barely penetrate 10%

Your low IQ is preventing you from understanding the hard thermodynamic reality of the situation and you are degenerating into free energy magical thinking

>> No.10006364

>>10005944
C-c-can you please do TA on tmobile for me?

$TMUS
on Wednesday this week the Senate judiciary committee is meeting to discuss if they'll allow T-Mobile to buyout sprint. Odds are good since recently AT&T was allowed to buyout Time Werner and Amazon was allowed to buy wholefoods. There has been a shift towards allowing these mergers in the last couple years.. and T-Mobile and sprint are basically saying they'll be dead in the water when 5G comes on the market unless they can merge. I have some long calls and I'm really unsure where my ceiling is. If nothing else I'm hoping for bullish momentum into Tuesday and then either a run up or a run down into decision day.

>> No.10006391

No homo but I like you guys. You guys are smart.

>> No.10006479
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10006479

$IQ calls from leddit

like his bet?

>> No.10006495

>>10005473
im here ma dude
we gonna make so much fucking money
>OPEC increased production and oil prices INCREASED, why? Because they admit there is a shortage.
ive noticed. i think the fact that its continued up in spite of dollar run indicates theres some serious catch up coming soon
>Look at how low stocks like Chesapeake energy is, holy fucking shit this badboy will go back up to at least $30.
ticker?
>once oil prices peak SHORT EVERYTHING as the economy begins to collapse 2007 style
glad to see im not the only retard who thinks this. ive been telling everyone to get on for months desu

>> No.10006505

>>10006391
I'm retarded but I like u UwU

>>10006479
I hope he loses everything, stupid faggot

>> No.10006518

>>10005561
>>10005716
>>10006346
fuck yeah.
good to see someone here whos actually put some thought into this

>> No.10006523

>>10006479
>>10006505
quote from him


I’m 21 and a software engineer. I’m not extremely rich. My account is 500k (half of that is on margin. Sorry for the misrepresentation!)

>> No.10006531

so anyway the guy stopped posting to reddit 4 days ago. Margin account all in on $IQ bought avg at $35, and $40 calls.

>> No.10006541

>>10006523
lol

>> No.10006573

>>10006541
it gets better

It's a family loan (300k) from his parents along with margin from robinhood.

>> No.10006578

>>10006495
Based

Chesapeake is CHK

If you look at global oil consumption and GDP growth they are basically directly correlated, people say "oh well in America and Europe GDP is growing and oil is stagnant" they ignore the fact heavy polluting industry was offshored to Asia so if you look GLOBALLY you see the correlation

To that guy I was debating with I am actually long Tesla, when oil prices go up OF COURSE people are going to want electric cars, but my argument is that electric cars are not the miracle made out to be in the media

>>10006518
Thank you, so much false information out there about oil and everybody is becoming ideologically driven by the green energy meme they don't actually look at the numbers

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>>10006573
I wonder if these people realize they can make good money just holding 100k of bonds
but noooo, gotta go all in on the chink stock

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>>10006523
>>10006541
>>10006573
>>10006609
This is peak reddit.
>HAHAHAHA IT'S SO FUNNY AND QUIRKY TO LOSE MONEY

>> No.10006627

>>10006609
can't post those to WSB for karma

>> No.10006656

Give me the quick rundown on midstream energy companies like BPL. That dividend has me hard af.

Looking to pickup any good dividend stocks that people have dumped on when they bottom out.

>> No.10006686

>>10005944
>ohh you using spreads for commodities!
was working on commodity game too!
have you ever heard of using BLS-raw industrial spreads for scalping? here example chart
whenever corn diverges too much from its BLS counterpart you sell / buy depending on which direction it diverged!
im gonna bitch slap the next person who tells me ur retarded.
no i have not used this in particular, but this is a very good idea. what ive been doing is looking at the spread between the front 2 months of a particular commodity, and overlaying USD (not to scale, just overlayed to see price action). when i see the spread increasing, and the dollar moving down or staying flat, i go long. the dollar moving up and spread decreasing means i go short/hedge. so far so good. tried this this week on wheat and oil. caught both right at the bottom

>>10006391
<3

>>10006479
hi IV anon you shouldnt get too smug. this type of total loss is very similar to what may happen to you, my fren, because of your disregard for the greeks

>>10006578
>If you look at global oil consumption and GDP growth they are basically directly correlated, people say "oh well in America and Europe GDP is growing and oil is stagnant" they ignore the fact heavy polluting industry was offshored to Asia so if you look GLOBALLY you see the correlation
very cool anon. i had wondered this myself desu
>Thank you, so much false information out there about oil and everybody is becoming ideologically driven by the green energy meme they don't actually look at the numbers
green energy is a racketeering scheme drummed up by the citigroup gremlins that obama had selected as his cabinet.

remember when pelosi got in trouble for insider trading with first solar? thats right, prolly not, because she had her husband make the trade and she made boatloads off of it while she was the one pushing the legislation. she didnt get fucked w at all.

i have nothing against clean energy. but the people who are pushing for it are criminals

>> No.10006726

>>10006686
I can tell it's you, teh proft >:)

>> No.10006734

>>10006726
nonsense
i am the cripplechan administrator
who is this profit you speak of?
he sounds nice...

>> No.10006741

>>10006734
Wtf is that trip

>> No.10006742

>>10006686

>greeks
They don't matter. It's a low IQ crutch that I'm already past. They matter to people trying to calculate values but unimportant if you are using better models.

>> No.10006759

>>10006742
Nicoposter pls

>> No.10006766

>>10006742
When u get justed on ur options I'll post my smug nicos just for you

>> No.10006770

>>10006741
its MY trip nao
look at me
IM the cripplechan admin nao

>>10006742
ur gonna get fucked up anon
youre already locked in
enjoy total loss

>> No.10006774

>>10006766
Okay, the first JUSTed option is comin on july 6th for TSLA. So far you would have been smugly correct on me not playing it correctly as it went from 27-29 back to near where I bought it.

>> No.10006776

>>10006742
the only model that matters is the black-scholes model, and your willfull disregard of its awesome power will lead you to untold losees

>> No.10006781

>>10006770
>already locked in. Only bought $700 worth of $22 AMD calls. I never did the other 2/3rds yet, and the option price went up friday

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>>10006774
Too bad I'm on vacation and cant find better smuggies

You havent been posting this cutie recently, care to tell me why?

>> No.10006788

>>10006781
keep buying em nigga
you wanna make it dontcha??

>> No.10006793

>>10006781
yeah the thing is I'm pretty sure I used that model intuitively. So I don't worry about it unless I just want to get confused. I don't want to have the same mental models as other people for this.

>> No.10006805

>>10006788
Sure, looking at valuation / seeing what market does Monday. Monday is going to be very interesting.

I'm actually leaning towards wanting to buy more TSLA options though. Especially OTM ones that expire July 6th.

>> No.10006809
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>>10006793
>i dont wanna use the pricing model thats used for all options prices because im too arrogant and illiterate to realize whats even happening right now
>SHIIGGGYYDDIGGYYSMYNIGGYY

>> No.10006814

>>10006809
I don't believe it.

>> No.10006817

>>10006805
>I'm actually leaning towards wanting to buy more TSLA options though. Especially OTM ones that expire July 6th.
DEFINITELY DO THIS PL0X

>> No.10006820

>>10006479
explain this to a brainlet. if he only has 150 contracts isn't he only risking like 735 dollars?

>> No.10006822

>>10006784
thats not the nico poster

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>>10006805

>> No.10006826

>>10006817
Honestly, I might. TSLA short term OTM calls are going to be the best play Monday morning.

It's counter intuitive to most people but extremely obvious to me.

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>>10006822
If it is you then you have been shirking your duty. It is in my nature to lurk, you must post the nicos.

>> No.10006842

>>10006820
lol
he is risking $73,500
and he obviously doesnt into options as it appears he bought them at extraordinarily high IV
just like our retarded fren ITT

>>10006822
this
definitely not nicoposter.
nicoposter couldnt even pretend to be as retarded as hi IV anon here

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>>10006830
I cant just post all my nicos, they have to be spread out

>> No.10006854

>>10006826
The premium on these is fucking insane. The break even price on the cheapest OTM call is 345.

>> No.10006859

>>10006854
the market prices it.

>> No.10006866

>>10006854
dont worry about him anon
he checked his thought vectors and they assured him that TSLA will go up because he imagined they would do so

you just dont understand cuz ur 2 lo IQ

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10006867

>>10006843
Jew

>> No.10006875

>>10006866
this is my feeling, sadly I won't have the balls to play the obvious move.

>> No.10006889

Anyone know if I should just give up on holding JAGX or hold out for a little while longer?

>> No.10006898

>>10006875
i hope you dont anon
you can only write off the first $3000 of options losses on your taxes. the rest will roll over to next year, but you can definitely fuck yourself up doing this

youd be better off donating that shit to charity desu

>>10006889
idk m8
i think that one already got pumped AND dumped. not too sure if theres anyone willing to pump it again just yet

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>>10006867
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2VduJeLZGo

>> No.10006905

>>10006898
wait till you see TSLA's run

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10006910

>short LNG

>> No.10006911

>>10002411
coca cola

>> No.10006922
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>>10006911

>> No.10006923

>>10006905
anon
TSLA is likely going to range like it has been for the rest of the year. they lost an unfathomable amount of money this quarter (in addition to what they usually lose just from their spending habits), and its gonna show up in this ER, you can almost guarantee it.

>> No.10006954

>>10006910
>long SHRT

>> No.10006968
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10006968

Where is the bottom? REEEEEEEEEE. I want to get in for that fat 14% dividend yield.

>> No.10007009
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>>10006923
You can fabricate earnings and I wouldn't put it past Elon to keep the ponzi scheme going.

Daily reminder: pic

>> No.10007015

>>10006968
All you need to make it is KR, KMB and CPB Anon!

>> No.10007048

>>10007009
lol
wat a fucking joke
they cant be serious about these projections, can they?

>You can fabricate earnings and I wouldn't put it past Elon to keep the ponzi scheme going.
kek they probably wont even do that. the banks just constantly throw him hanging curveballs and lower the estimate every quarter. for example, last quarter was the MOST money that TSLA had EVER lost in their history as a publicly traded company. they called it a BEAT. can you believe that shit?

if banks didnt have so much of their cash in TSLA, itd already be shorted back down to sub 100/shr

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>>10007015
KR cut divs
I cut them from portfolio

>> No.10007097

has anyone here actually made money on options or had multiple wins in a row?

>> No.10007100

IQ is not going above 44 again, that guy is fucked

>> No.10007128

has anyone here actually made money?

>> No.10007145

>>10007128
kek

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>>10007128

>> No.10007154

>>10007097
yes
ive also had multiple losses in a row before too
options are brutal, but imo, worth it, so long as you are careful, and respect ur greek overlords.

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10007156

>>10007128
losing money

>> No.10007173

>>10007128
i put all of my money in goog so yes i have made 3%

>> No.10007205

ok guys i went from brainlet to high iq. just read for 10 minutes on options gonna start monday

>> No.10007209

>>10007128

I average 12.3% per trade

>> No.10007216
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10007216

borrowing money from close friends and family
using margin
putting it all in on options for a meme you saw on reddit

>> No.10007224
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10007224

fug am I too late for the SEAS moon mission?

>> No.10007229
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10007229

So I've realized one of my biggest weaknesses...thats changing interests daily. Id get obsessed with something than I'm bored the next day. I've been through maybe a hundred different things.

So now when I wake up I have my goals set up there so it guides my day and sets priorities.

>> No.10007252

>>10007216
LOL
youre the one whos all in on reddit-tier tech memes with options that you dont understand
dont act SO smug

>>10007229
yup
you cant make any money chasing things. you gotta find em, stick to your plan, and let your WINS ride, not your LOSSES

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>>10007229
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpEtnElQonQ

what do you think of avocado plants?

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>>10007224
holy fuck
probably
it hasnt shown any signs of slowing down yet, but its WAY overextended.
wtf is making seaworld so bullish? they got new whales or something?

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>>10007252
Based C...
Im not going to give up! Just the fact that i haven't finished a book because I'm reading like 15 is sad.
Thank u

>> No.10007280

>>10007260
I don't know anything about farming sadly .__. I'm reading tho... Avacadoes are based

>> No.10007286

>>10007264
they keep expanding there park with more rides and rollercoasters
Next sixflags imminent? Im buying two share in fomo

>> No.10007328

>>10007280
>don't know anything about farming sadly
you dont need to. buy wheat.
this will be the legendary golden wheat bullrun that anons will discuss years from now
see:
>>10005156
>>10005211

>>10007286
well ya probably cant get hurt too bad off of 2 shares. who the fuck knows, maybe seaworld is undervalued. i know I forgot that it still existed

>> No.10007629

>>10002398

Lower iq

>> No.10007646

has anyone ever used a TED spread?
are you supposed to use the ECBs LIBOR rate and the euro dollar even if you are using it to judge the US equities market?

unsure if theres a US version of this, or if i should just monitor the regular TED spread?

>> No.10007695

>>10007328
Is Wheat the new /smg/ meme?? MUST PURCHASE ON MONDAY

>> No.10007769

>>10007629
its my new pet project to make sure hi IV anon loses absolutely everything desu

i actually bothered to take the time to explain to him why he shouldnt be making short term OTM calls on things with extremely high IV, but it didnt get through. now its my goal to make sure that he learns everything the hard way, since apparently, its the only way hes gonna learn

>>10007695
yes buy ITM calls on wheat. as dollar falls, and spread starts to rise, wheat should continue on upwards. not only that, but ive heard rumors that the harvest is gonna be all fucked up. youre in idaho, right? ask farmers how the wheat harvest is. i know idahos mostly spuds, but theres gotta be some wheat farmers. it seems that corn is going to have a surplus, while wheat may have a shortage if my assumption is correct (notice how it has kept up even in spite of dollar. similar to what crude oil has been doing (i believe this indicates VERY large demand)).

but so far so good with these spread charts. sugar as well looks like it might b a buy, but no options chain, so i went with wheat.
ticker is WEAT.

just make sure you use limits to get yourself a good price on the contracts as the spread is kinda wide. i normally just spam limits below the midpoint until i can get some. just dont be freaked out by how few people trade the stock. it follows the spot price, it just is rather jumpy. for example, i was down 10% on it after opening the position. then suddenly, 15mins to close yesterday, i was up 15% on it.

but judging on daily and monthly spreads and dollar price action, i believe that this next month will be very good for wheat spot price. at the very least, i dont think its going to go too much lower unless the dollar chads up HARD

>> No.10007807

>>10007695
for the same reason, i also see silver making a move upwards. see chart.
>blue line is 1mo silvr contract price minus 2mo silver contract price (scaled to right side)
>orange is silver spot price in USD (scaled to left side)
>green is USD (not to scale, only monitored for price action)

its been giving me anywhere from 1 day, to 2 day in advanced warning of moves up and down

im working on one now that uses bond futures spreads, TLT, CPI, and USD to analyze bond gap ups and downs

>> No.10007820
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10007820

>>10007807
forgot pic

>> No.10007837

>a weekend thread made it to the bump limit

holy shit

>> No.10007877

>>10007837

our autism is intensifying. will it result in gains or total loss? only time will tell

>> No.10007891

>>10007877

Unsustainable growth

There hasn’t been a meme crash in awhile. Maybe that’s why.

>> No.10007899

>>10007891
dunno bout you but i just want to live through another bubble like dotcom. maybe this is the beginning. just one good bubble and i'll die happy

>> No.10007922

>>10007891
Yeah, but good luck predicting it. People were crying about the dotcom bubble back in 1997-1998. If you shorted the market then, you'd have lost your shirt before the crash. Most analysts predict trouble next year which probably means trouble late this year.

>> No.10007953

>>10007899
>>10007922
chegged
but im with oil bull anon desu
oil is going to outperform the market this year, and when it peaks, its time to short EVRYTHING

>> No.10007964

>>10007953
Would my midstream oil servicing MLPs be safe during an oil peak + market crash?

>> No.10007976

>>10007964
theyll probably kick ass if oil stays up or is bullish.
if oil starts crashing itll already be too late to get out of those things imo.

so theyll be safe for now, w oil moving up on unprecedented demand. but theyll probably fall harder than the rest of the market if oil starts crashing

>> No.10008029

>>10007976
company I am looking at is already crashing. Trying to buy that sweet sweet dip in BPL, SCP, ETP, EEP and the other big yielders. Best case, they boom. Worst case, I collect fatty checks every quarter.

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>>10004450
>>10001317
>>10004818
Why won't you pick up a tripcode?
You have a lot of fans, like Ciara Horan posters
>pic related from another thread

>>10002471
They had an earnings report.
I predict that the tech bubble may pop a bit in the next earnings season, but I also said it would with the rate hike... but it's been pretty disappointing.

>>10006626
This.

>> No.10008153

>>9999767
Invested $4100

Down to $3800 cause of $IQ ; ( not sure if I should hold or sell