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>>19455743
well, look at it this way: in order for any kind of choice to exist, there needs to be a form of causation in the universe we haven't been able to observe yet. not only in physics, we can't even build a mathematical model that contains such causation.

EVERYTHING in the world according to what we currently understand about it (which might be less than 0.000001% of what's actually there is to it) is caused by either a past event or randomness, exclusively.

which means every decision that happens in your brain either happens due to something in the past, or a random outcome. you never actually have choice.

i personally like to live my life in a mentality that leaves open the possibility that i actually have an effect on it, at least until it's proven otherwise. which, it has NOT been. yeah we're aware of all these events that are definitely a cause of past / very likely a casue of randomness, but there's no proof that every event is.
the universe may have some form of meaning, maybe in a shape we couldn't possibly comprehend even if it was laid out to us due to the limited capabilities of our minds.

i live my life according to a way that leaves open the possibility that i might have free choice, that the universe might have a meaning, and that i might be somehow something more than just the sum of my genes and the past events that happened to me throughout this life.

>>19455743
well, look at it this way: in order for any kind of choice to exist, there needs to be a form of causation in the universe we haven't been able to observe yet. not only in physics, we can't even build a mathematical model that contains such causation.

EVERYTHING in the world according to what we currently understand about it (which might be less than 0.000001% of what's actually there is to it) is caused by either a past event or randomness, exclusively.

which means every decision that happens in your brain either happens due to something in the past, or a random outcome. you never actually have choice.

i personally like to live my life in a mentality that leaves open the possibility that i actually have an effect on it, at least until it's proven otherwise. which, it has NOT been. yeah we're aware of all these events that are definitely a cause of past / very likely a casue of randomness, but there's no proof that every event is.
the universe may have some form of meaning, maybe in a shape we couldn't possibly comprehend even if it was laid out to us due to the limited capabilities of our minds.

i live my life according to a way that leaves open the possibility that i might have free choice, that the universe might have a meaning, and that i might be somehow something more than my genes and the past events that happened to me throughout this life.

>>18849852
>without God there is not finite right nor wrong.
it could easily be that our current physics covers way less than 1% of what's present in the universe, how it works and how/why it exists.

we can't even build a mathematical model of the universe that makes quantum entanglement -in the way we currently understand it- possible.

there's literally infinite room for objective "right" and "wrong" to exist in it

of course, it could also be that by now we actually comprehend most of it and there's actually 0 meaning to it at all. but you're incredibly low iq if you can't see the possibility of there being much-much more to it than we currently understand.