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>>53886614
- StarkNet has a mainnet alpha while the others only have testnets.
- zk-STARKs > zk-SNARKs
- zkSync has better architecture.

>>53859152
If you only accept actual zkEVMs, then zkSync, because at least the Matter Labs have a testnet.
However if you also accept translation layers like Nethermind's Warp, then it's StarkNet, since that network is in alpha on mainnet.

>>51381482
>>51381521
> With privacy enabled on Ethereum, thanks to Railgun and allied protocols, you'll be surprised to see how much can be done on the chain
on-chain anonymity and privacy is absolutely the greatest thing ever and extremely important to implement.
But what is actually pushing the limits for what can be done "on-chain" are zk-proofs and validity-rollups (aka. zk-rollups), since they change the game so that transactions don't have to be recomputed on every single node in order to prove their validity. This means that any computation for which a proof can be formulated can be put on-chain, in the (near?) future this could even include supercomputer and quantum computation.

>>50483731
>>50483816
>testnet
>so basically its still not a working product
Despite holding (and staking) MATIC, I have to point out that Polygon doesn't even have a testnet yet, much less mainnet:
"Today we are open-sourcing the code for Polygon zkEVM. Soon we’ll have a public testnet, which will be an opportunity to test our work, and to find areas where it needs to be improved."
-- https://blog.polygon.technology/the-future-is-now-for-ethereum-scaling-introducing-polygon-zkevm/
And if this is purely about the announcement, then the Matter Labs were first, by more than a year: https://blog.matter-labs.io/zksync-2-0-hello-ethereum-ca48588de179

> Also their zkEVM is fucking closed source so might as well not even have it
For now, that will most likely change once it's released on mainnet:
"Owned by the community
zkSync is 100% open source"
-- https://zksync.io/

> starknet will prevail pajeets
Yeah, StarkWare is arguably furthest ahead since StarkNet is on mainnet and Warp lets developers transpile Solidity to Cairo: https://github.com/NethermindEth/warp
Sure, it's not bytecode compatibility, but it's good enough for most use cases.

>>50483131
>>50483661
>zkSync has no real working product yet.
>bu bu but muh testnet
I hold MATIC, but I have to point out that Polygon doesn't even have a testnet yet, much less mainnet:
"Today we are open-sourcing the code for Polygon zkEVM. Soon we’ll have a public testnet, which will be an opportunity to test our work, and to find areas where it needs to be improved."
-- https://blog.polygon.technology/the-future-is-now-for-ethereum-scaling-introducing-polygon-zkevm/
And if this is purely about the announcement, then the Matter Labs were first, by more than a year: https://blog.matter-labs.io/zksync-2-0-hello-ethereum-ca48588de179

>starkware will seethe
Actually, StarkWare is the furthest ahead since StarkNet is on mainnet and Warp lets developers transpile Solidity to Cairo: https://github.com/NethermindEth/warp
Sure, it's not bytecode compatibility, but it's good enough for most use cases.

>>50483131
>>50483661
>zkSync has no real working product yet.
>bu bu but muh testnet
I hold MATIC, but I have to point out that Polygon doesn't even have a testnet yet, much less mainnet:
"Today we are open-sourcing the code for Polygon zkEVM. Soon we’ll have a public testnet, which will be an opportunity to test our work, and to find areas where it needs to be improved."
-- https://blog.polygon.technology/the-future-is-now-for-ethereum-scaling-introducing-polygon-zkevm/
And if this is purely about the announcement, then the Matter Labs were first, by more than a year: https://blog.matter-labs.io/zksync-2-0-hello-ethereum-ca48588de179

>starkware will seethe
Actually, StarkWare is the furthest ahead since StarkNet is on mainnet and Warp lets developers transpile Solidity to Cairo: https://github.com/NethermindEth/warp
Sure, it's not bytecode compatibility, but it's good enough for most developers.