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>>17477731
>implying ANY AT ALL DISTINCTIONS BETWEEN COLLECTIVIST PHILOSOPHERS MATTERS WHEN THEY ARE ADVOCATING FOR COLLECTIVISM
>IMPLYING THAT ALL BRANDS OF COLLECTIVISM CANNOT BE BOILED DOWN TO THE ESSENTIAL PRINCIPLE OF FORGOING NATURAL RIGHTS IN EXCHANGE FOR THE MERE PROMISE OF SECURITY FROM A CENTRAL AUTHORITY, WITH NO OPTING OUT
it's like telling someone that one sect of magical charlatan healing where someone waves their hands over you to cure you is truly unique and special from another sect of magical charlatan healing where someone does the exact same thing for the exact same stated purpose

>>17477715
i was going to write an actual response here, but i think i'm gonna call it a night
i will say, trying to reason with people who seem not to be able to fundamentally understand how forgoing the recognition of your natural rights in exchange ***for the mere promise*** of goods and services from a central authority is a move so removed from logic if the goal is the maintaining of your well being gets very incredibly tiresome