/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>19742262
markets are both rational and irrational in pockets. High speculation and FED intervention just means there's bear market in some sectors and a bull market in others. That's why only retards take teams. You should be only worried about making the number in your account go up

>>19707265
I was a wild speculator once too. Lost a lot of money, so I learned when to be a bull and when to be a bear. when to speculate and when to run. mumu bobo shit is childish. Why are you picking a team when the only thing that matters is the number in your account.

>>19707280
yep. business cycle had to end at some point. Lots of garbage companies rolling their debts in life support, GE, F, AT&T; lots of overarching cycles came to an end at 2020. FED was going to pay eventually for keeping interest rates so low too.

>>19707379
Some people learn from others' mistakes, some people downright have to make their own mistakes to ever learn. I've been there with you man.

>>19707387
History has frequently played out the same even from weimar germany. First deflation, then massive inflation. I'll give it a watch thanks.

>>19310596
I'll try,

Inflationary itself isn't an argument, unless you're trying to attach it to another idea. Inflation can be both good and bad.

I think it's deflation we're seeing right now See pic.. All currencies are devaluing against USD; essentially USD is deflating, value of the dollar is going up. Unemployment itself is deflationary, people are worried if they'll get their next paycheck, not how they'll spend their money right now. Yes, stimulus checks exist put they're a pittance of money, and I doubt they can keep them coming through till 2021.

Productivity and employment are at the heart of an economy, and if you keep chugging along, hollowed out, things are going to cave in.

Consumer confidence is depressed, and I do think people are going to be saving. Especially millenials and boomers; Boomers got their retirements raped in 08 and now in 2020, and they're retiring ie not working anymore. Their cashflows are reduced, and they're going to live frugally to make sure their retirements aren't cut short. Theres something retarded like 50% with no savings, and 10000 retiring every day. This is not even factoring coronavirus yet. Millenials are supposed to move into the highest spending demographic, but they're utterly broke from student debt and lack of good paying jobs. Pretty much all wage cucks with no excess money to spend. Deflationary.

Deflation on top of record Gov't debt and record consumer and corporate debt = debt is growing bigger while our cash flows are all depressed = insolvency.

about FED liquidity, we're in a solvency crisis that just started. Cash flow matters, not liquidity. If you were in massive debt does lending you more money do anything? insolvency is a lagging indicator, and we're just starting to feel the first drops of rain before the storm. Neiman Marcus, JC Penney, etc. One by one they'll drop, then combined with second wave news we go down for another leg. Also, what happens when FED has to eventually stop printing?