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>>12249517

>>12204877
>whatever system that's born from expropriating capitalists in developed countries would be quite different from that born of peasants expropriating landlords in semi-feudal countries

Literally Venezuela: went from quasi-free market with one of the highest per-capita GDPs to asshole of the universe after adopting hard socialist policies.

>>1704479
>>1704539

>the amount of value via labor and capital someone puts into a system is less than the amount of value they extract
>magically this person is a net benefit to those who's excess value is being stolen from them

Sorry you gullible dupes, these people are only useful to the extent that they help the tax farmers (people who need more human cattle sucking at the government tit so they can sell that government more services), and the land/property speculators that rely on ever increasing population to justify new housing developments on land that would otherwise be used for farming/timber/mining. The welfare state exists solely to distort prices in favor of an elite few.

Also, your worth is defined by a dollar amount. You have a dollar figure attached to you as a human by the government, insurance companies, actuarials at corporations, and for the labor (both paid and unpaid) you contribute to society. You have no intrinsic value to society, nature, the universe, etc, beyond your imaginary dollars figure.

Fundamentally, somebody with an IQ of 75, still costs the government (taxpayers) over $250,000 to birth, care for, and educate to the age of 18. If they are working poor they probably net out even. If they spend any substantial time on welfare they end up net negatives to society by a huge margin. If we got rid of welfare, 99% of these people would get off their ass and work to survive, have a fuck ton less retarded babies they cant afford, and in general stop being leeches. Really though, we need to stop paying retarded ghetto single women when they have fatherless retarded children, its the source of a majority of poverty issues.

>>1698006

Its all the same shit.
When the government takes your SS money, do they park it in stocks? no. Corperate bonds? no. Precious metals? nope.
When they pay your SS, where does the money come from? Thats right, fucking taxes.
Those government bonds they put the surplus in? they count as a federal liability, AKA, shit they are going to have to pay out of the public purse. You got played into believing the old ss trust fund meme