/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>30079282
>get your silver pure

That's what my refinery is for fren, I hope to do some garage refining this year but still need more supplies.

>>28402789
The conditions of cheap labor, low cost petroleum, grandfathered patented mines, and relative environmental leniency allowing for the profitable exploitation of mineral resources now will not exist in 2100. I like the perspective of Steve St.Angelo regarding how PMs are a store of energy-input or energy-equivalent value, and if fossil fuels become depleted and more expensive while the environmentalism noose continues tightening around industry then PMs will still be a safe store of wealth.

>>28406030
>Hey pmg has anyone used a silver refining service before?

Other refineries are out there but since it's the only place I've worked with I recommend:
https://prospectorsgoldandgems.com/silver-refining/

How much sterling do you have and are you likely to get more scrap? 100+oz batches have the best rates.

>>27490485
>seem harder to sell

Plenty of people prefer poured classy comfy old-school bullion where each piece is visibly unique so I wouldn't worry about it, Silver is Silver.

>>27410790
>They never check gam gams flatware

Tards gonna tard, might as well use the rampant ignorance to stack refined bars below-spot while normies are FOMOing into $40+ bullion.

>>27144600
>>27153011

Relax anon, that's old news for most actual /pmg/ers. Been subbed to James and Derrick for ages already but newfags may benefit so thanks.

Threadly reminder to stack cheap scrap and get it refined and returned as comfy hand-pours. Stacking below-spot and premium-free is not complicated.

>>26857693
>thanks which medieval village do i go to to find the local smelter ?

If you're in the US there are several refineries, I use Prospector's Gold and Gems for my sterling silver refining and had them make me 1/10oz gold rounds too which are pretty cool.

>>26858034
I'm not really familiar with those but believe they are private mint "generics" so I doubt there is additional collector value associated with it, nice piece regardless though.

>>26535611
Yeah fren they're legit, get the bars returned cash is gay

>>26223671
There's probably something in the water out here fren.

>>26223794
No but I've been reading and watching sreetips on youtube trying to learn the different methods. For now I just send my scrap to Prospector's Gold and Gems in Ft. Collins for refining and return as kino poured bars.

>>26229047
I'd avoid the war nickels if you can, they contain 1.75g Silver which isn't much less than the 2.25g in dimes but because of the expense and increased difficulty of refining (I think the manganese causes issues?) they aren't really desirable compared with normal .900 (or .800-.925) fineness coins.

>>25627541
Probably like Pan Man said, supply issues coupled with lower demand in the American market. Their 1 and 10 ounce bars seem most popular, these kilos are basically only customer commissioned and thus pretty rare. People actually collect their bullion so I could probably get a decent collector premium over spot for them which is a nice bonus.

I recommend their 1oz bars for anyone looking to dabble in scrap, they are absolutely awesome in-hand, don't really get harmed by jingling around, and feel like Spanish hammered Cob pirate treasure. People worry about milk spots and shit on tubes of BU rounds they can't even enjoy fondling but these are meant to be handled.

>>25424112
>get ingots returned

I use "Prospector's Gold and Gems" in Fort Collins, CO so I can stack kilos, but there are other refineries you can use. Check them out here: https://prospectorsgoldandgems.com/silver-refining/

They also refine and return gold 1/10oz rounds and bars.

The premiums over spot people pay for their poured bars and ingots are pretty good and they will make all sorts of different sizes for you which is lots of fun. I'll probably get an assload of 1ozers made next time I drop off a load because they feel damn awesome in the hand and won't be harmed by playing with them. I'm not really a tube or flipcuck kinda guy and these are made to be handled.

>>24964900
>that is my favorite too of course

PG&G gettin' around. Is it a 2oz bar?

>>23739934
>intuition

Yeah, INTP intuitive powerhouse. I've always scored in the top 1% without any preparation and have a top .2% IQ, but that pales in comparison to my object-oriented photographic memory and general intuitive sorcery. I've spent my whole life feeding it as much random data and hands-on experience as I can absorb, but it's never too late to start and now would be a good time to start working on it. I try to share what I can and learn from you analytical geniuses because I don't have a knack for abstract/higher maths or statistics, which is pretty relevant when trading and evaluating stocks etc. Grug like rock he can hold and look at, not like invisible rock, lol.

>>23740116
No no I don't sell it man, my refinery is Prospector's Gold and Gems in Fort Collins CO and they return nice poured bars and ingots. There are other refineries but I've only worked with PG&G.

https://prospectorsgoldandgems.com/silver-refining/

That's the best way I know to consistently get well-below-spot Silver bullion (gold too) and have been shilling that approach for months here because poorfags and students could really benefit from being able to get a heavier stack with their limited budget versus buying taxed crap at retail like most people. It will be even more lucrative when Silver moons and most people haven't caught on yet; there will be obnoxious arbitrage to take advantage of all day long, it'll be gobs of fun.

>>23740401
Based pubeposter

>>23697825
>refinery

What refinery do you use? I've only worked with PG&G.

>>23445272
>whose your refiner?

Prospector's Gold & Gems in Fort Collins, CO. They're local so I save on other costs even if they may not have the best rates because of the high labor involved in processing and hand-pouring everything. Some places will pay more but don't return anything or only return/trade taxed stuff like ASEs or Maples. Call and ask around to see what refinery works best for you.

>>23313960
>Please tell me you sleep on a pile of your sterling. I would.

Close lol, often I'll be holding and "absorbing" particularly nice antique pieces or a kilo bar before falling asleep, wife makes fun of me for cuddling my silver to bed, no regrets tho lol.

>>23313988
Probably ~60-80g sterling per brush shell so not a good deal fren.

>>23261524
Not sure specifically about the other markings but you're safe assuming that it is gold plated sterling, looks good to me.

I dunno if it's smart or dumb but I save the nice intact silver jewelry I get in scrap batches. For whatever reason I like the necklace chains, torcs and bracelets even though my wife and I don't wear any jewelry at all. Probably appeals to my inner Viking.

>>23233878
>>23234001

Cool charts, good guides for anons when hunting for coins in the wild (sales or auctions) where you don't necessarily have the time or privacy to bust out a scale and World Coin book (or Numistia or whatever).

When I've seen spergs sit down and do this at auctions before bidding gets to the coins it draws a bunch of attention to the coins as well as focus on the sperg and his bidding. Basic psychology, you want to poker face everything and never draw attention to the gems you discover or know you want, so playing around with adjacent garbage while actually studying the nearby goodies may be called for sometimes.

Anyway, people pulling out scales and/or books aways seem to drive prices higher because it alerts all the chattering old farts who just go to auctions to socialize that something interesting is coming up. Best to memorize your rules of thumb and not clue anyone in to what you're thinking or what item you're feverishly researching on your phone. If you must research something, take a mental snapshot then pull out phone and research once you've moved away. Trust me, when I see people obviously fawning over something it organically draws attention and more people then go look at and research whatever it is which you clearly don't want. Poker face.

>>22857406

Yes.

>>22858126
Thanks for the tips, I have a Credit Suisse ounce in plastic card I'd better scrutinize then, got it from JM Bullion who I trust but nobody's perfect.

I won't pretend to have an opinion worth a damn but I appreciate the discussion about the macro implications of QE etc.

What I do know is my stack keeps getting heavier every day and I sleep well because of it. Thankfully scrapping has kept my DCA pretty attractive but if we go back to spot+premium below 20 and crab a while I'll have wasted lots of time over spring/summer.

Blew 2/3rds remaining dry powder Mon/Tue like a noob but still have some for more miners and maybe a bit more gold (I like that 50g combibar), gotta get the stack ratio back down around 1:1,000.

No real worries as we all knew it would be an interesting ride and another good hammer was expected. I'm not mentally prepared for a 2nd 10+% hit if another is coming soon but it still won't change the real fundamentals or my own mid/long term strategies.

It'll make me feel like a schizo again like in February waiting with anxious bated breath for the imminent market crash while it just kept surging upwards. It was a really bizarre headspace to occupy back then. I was quite spooked and questioning my self, senses and my instincts all through Feb until it happened, which was truly a great relief and confidence boost personally (yay I wasn't crazy!). Just as the March market crash was made a reality when the repo market shat itself last September and COVID was released at the Wuhan military games last October, the (personally) inconceivably vast global fiscal, monetary and economic forces that have been set in motion guarantee that we stackers and real asset holders will find ourselves on the right side of the cataclysmic global implosion of paper wealth that seems inevitable.

Stay strong in grip and in spirit stackchads, this bull is just getting started and we will have a world to help rebuild once we all have the buying power of millionaires on the other side of this.

>>22603140
Congrats on the score! Sure feels better than paying retail amirite?

There are a number of refineries and some may actually strike rounds (often they seem to just have ASEs on hand for swapping) but yes, the "refining/minting fee" for 1 ounce units will be higher. Just call around and see what/who works best for your location and goals. I like PG&G because they actually make based kilos and are nearby so I can deal in-person which is cheaper and less stressful for me than shipping back and forth and hoping UPS/FedEx aren't retards.

Most of my refined scrap silver is in kilos, followed by a few dozen 10oz loaves and a some different "small change" bars as pictured. The kinda crude feel and small footprint of the 1oz bars is actually really cool, I didn't think I'd like them, but jingling them around like a pirate with a fistfull of pillaged crude hammer-struck "Cob" pieces of 8 is immensely satisfying so I'll probably have them make a bunch more in spite of the higher fee.