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crypto has collapsed 3x faster than the dot com bubble, you really cant ask for much more than that

>>49369748
It's gonna be a slow bleedout from now on.

>>30346516
Man oh man, will you get FUCKED by a 1 year bear market, should it happen.

>>30059536
I'm 70% sure we are over the peak and doing the 9 month slow unwind a'la dotcom.
It's a shame since not even protective puts hedge against that properly.

>>29970864
Well, you should put in most of your money that is not your rainy day fund.
Most probably into a 2x SPY fund, if you don't have an edge. The current valuation being the exact top is very unlikely.

>>29782061
dic related. Apart from the initial dump, the dotcom pop was actually a slow descent over a year.
Even puts aren't going to save you from that, because the premiums kill all gains.

>>29578537
My TSLA puts were worth 50% of my portfolio at one point yesterday. I was like, lol just continue crashing you stupid bitch, I don't even care about my stocks anymore.

The main risk is a slow deflate like the dotcom bubble tho.

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>>29399068
The crash will happen over months. It's just the newfags that don't realize this.

>>28404815
Then they should know when we are at the top or not.

Pro tip: we aren't, because JPow is still the patron saint of gains.
People lost way more money trying to predict the crash than in the actual crash.

>>27900315
Way too little gains compared to sector or meme ETFs for much the same risk. Pic related, the difference between QQQ and SPY.

>>27900289
It's a cult like QAnon.

>The thing about GME is that hodlers are like a cult. The worst thing is that cults tend to become more fanatic, because the more moderate members leave.
>There's never been an apocalyptic cult that disappeared just because the apocalypse didn't happen when predicted; you lose a few followers, but the same gullibility that made most cult members members makes it easy for them to swallow excuses for why the apocalypse didn't happen. Broadly speaking it breaks down to two options: the timing of the prediction is a little off, or the Apocalypse actually *did* happen, people aren't attuned enough to the esoteric truth to see. We're seeing *both* flavors of rationalization in GME believers: the squeeze is yet to come, two weeks from now and the squeeze happened and hedgies are already in trouble.

We will not reach the top untila reopen. The indicator is when people realize there is inflation and the Fed stops bluffing that it won't increase rates.

You see traditionally the shoeshine boy thing signified the peak, because the stock market saw a constant influx of money from less and less sophisticated "investors". Once the last one of them was already in, the influx stopped and the whole thing collapsed.

Now the money influx is coming from the Fed, and retailers are merely a blip in the system. The GME faggotry is a very good example of this. The combined effort of millions of very low level idiots was only enough to increase the market cap of a single company by ~10Bn (the rest was institutional investors).

So as long as the Fed is pumping, the line will go up.

Let's talk strategy if someone still hasn't read the pasta: The market downturn is coming, but we don't know when. It could be 2 months ahead, or 18. It could already be happening.

But first, take a look at the last huge downturn, the dotcom pop. Every zoomer idiot here imagines it as a single day 50% drop, but that's not true. It was a slow descent over months to a year with a dead cat bounce at the end of year.

The play now should be investing into 1-2 month plays, which either pay off or not, but sell after 2 months.This way you will not be affected by a slow downturn. Once these plays start to dry up, or simply not work out, we will know we entered the bear market phase, cash out and wait. Reinvest when opportunities start propping up.

The main takeaway is buying boomer ETFs are idiotic, divvie stocks even more so, and 6 month long plays are actually riskier than meme shit. Do meme shit and enjoy the monthly 30% while it lasts.

>>27379173
Oh, do I have the pro tip for you.
The market downturn is coming, but we don't know when. It could be 2 months ahead, or 18. It could already be happening.

But first, take a look at the last huge downturn, the dotcom pop. Every zoomer idiot here imagines it as a single day 50% drop, but that's not true. It was a slow descent over months to a year with a dead cat bounce at the end of year.

The play now should be investing into 1-2 month plays, which either pay off or not, but sell after 2 months.This way you will not be affected by a slow downturn. Once these plays start to dry up, or simply not work out, we will know we entered the bear market phase, cash out and wait. Reinvest when opportunities start propping up.

The main takeaway is buying boomer ETFs are idiotic, divvie stocks even more so, and 6 month long plays are actually riskier than meme shit. Do meme shit and enjoy the monthly 30% while it lasts.

>>27276795
Then again, my strategy currently is buy the rumor, sell the news, not slow growth and riding out dips.

But I have a pasta for that too:
Protip time: The market downturn is coming, but we don't know when. It could be 2 months ahead, or 18. It could already be happening.

But first, take a look at the last huge downturn, the dotcom pop. Every zoomer idiot here imagines it as a single day 50% drop, but that's not true. It was a slow descent over months to a year with a dead cat bounce at the end of year.

The play now should be investing into 1-2 month plays, which either pay off or not, but sell after 2 months.This way you will not be affected by a slow downturn. Once these plays start to dry up, or simply not work out, we will know we entered the bear market phase, cash out and wait. Reinvest when opportunities start propping up.

The main takeaway is buying boomer ETFs are idiotic, divvie stocks even more so, and 6 month long plays are actually riskier than meme shit. Do meme shit and enjoy the monthly 30% while it lasts.

Protip time: The market downturn is coming, but we don't know when. It could be 2 months ahead, or 18. It could already be happening.

But first, take a look at the last huge downturn, the dotcom pop. Every zoomer idiot here imagines it as a single day 50% drop, but that's not true. It was a slow descent over months a year with a dead cat bounce at the end of year.

The play now should be investing into 1-2 month plays, which either pay off or not, but sell after 2 months.This way you will not be affected by a month-long donwturn. Once these plays start to dry up, or simply not work out, we will know it's a recession, cash out and wait. Reinvest when opportunities start propping up.

The main takeaway is buying boomer ETFs are idiotic, divvie stocks even more so, and 6 month long plays are actually riskier than meme shit. Do meme shit and enjoy the monthly 30% while it lasts.

I think I haven't pasted this into a euro-smg yet:

The market downturn is coming, but we don't know when. It could be 2 months ahead, or 18. It could already be happening.

But first, take a look at the last huge downturn, the dotcom pop. Every zoomer idiot here imagines it as a single day 50% drop, but that's not true. It was a slow descent over months a year with a dead cat bounce at the end of year.

The play now should be investing into 1-2 month plays, which either pay off or not, but sell after 2 months.This way you will not be affected by a month-long donwturn. Once these plays start to dry up, or simply not work out, we will know it's a recession, cash out and wait. Reinvest when opportunities start propping up.

The main takeaway is buying boomer ETFs are idiotic, divvie stocks even more so, and 6 month long plays are actually riskier than meme shit. Do meme shit and enjoy the monthly 30% while it lasts.

>>26481001
A few months. Let me pasta my pasta here:

Protip time: The market downturn is coming, but we don't know when. It could be 2 months ahead, or 18. It could already be happening.

But first, take a look at the last huge downturn, the dotcom pop. Every zoomer idiot here imagines it as a single day 50% drop, but that's not true. It was a slow descent over months a year with a dead cat bounce at the end of year.

The play now should be investing into 1-2 month plays, which either pay off or not, but sell after 2 months.This way you will not be affected by a month-long donwturn. Once these plays start to dry up, or simply not work out, we will know it's a recession, cash out and wait. Reinvest when opportunities start propping up.

The main takeaway is buying boomer ETFs are idiotic, divvie stocks even more so, and 6 month long plays are actually riskier than meme shit. Do meme shit and enjoy the monthly 30% while it lasts.

>>26471877
>>26471671
>>26471406
>>26470938

Protip time: The market downturn is coming, but we don't know when. It could be 2 months ahead, or 18. It could already be happening.

But first, take a look at the last huge downturn, the dotcom pop. Every zoomer idiot here imagines it as a single day 50% drop, but that's not true. It was a slow descent over months a year with a dead cat bounce at the end of year.

The play now should be investing into 1-2 month plays, which either pay off or not, but sell after 2 months.This way you will not be affected by a month-long donwturn. Once these plays start to dry up, or simply not work out, we will know it's a recession, cash out and wait. Reinvest when opportunities start propping up.

The main takeaway is buying boomer ETFs are idiotic, divvie stocks even more so, and 6 month long plays are actually riskier than meme shit. Do meme shit and enjoy the monthly 30% while it lasts.

Protip time: The market downturn is coming, but we don't know when. It could be 2 months ahead, or 18. It could already be happening.

But first, take a look at the last huge downturn, the dotcom pop. Every zoomer idiot here imagines it as a single day 50% drop, but that's not true. It was a slow descent over months a year with a dead cat bounce at the end of year.

The play now should be investing into 1-2 month plays, which either pay off or not, but sell after 2 months.This way you will not be affected by a month-long donwturn. Once these plays start to dry up, or simply not work out, we will know it's a recession, cash out and wait. Reinvest when opportunities start propping up.

The main takeaway is buying boomer ETFs are idiotic, divvie stocks even more so, and 6 month long plays are actually riskier than meme shit. Do meme shit and enjoy the monthly 30% while it lasts.