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>>57376639
Also your chart shows that price got way too high due the ETF being frontrunned for months. SO MANY PEOPLE GOT RICH LAST YEAR that have an incentive to dump on you.

It's going to 20k. Things got so frontrunned last year. Miners got so fucking rich they are going to keep dumping. Add in anyone that bought sub 20k and has millions in unrealized profits. Add in GBTC dumping coins. ETFags ruined the bullrun or at least delayed it a good 6 months to 1 year.

Given that BTC is too pumped to get rich from anymore unless you have like $1,000,000 invested, will anyone buy MSTR or miners to hold leverage takes on the price that aren't options or leveraged ETFs that can wreck you left with nothing? At least with stocks you hold something that if the trade goes in the wrong direction you can still baghold and hope for the future.

However, because giantic retards that thought Fink would make them rich, the prices have been too high due ETF frontrunning for months, and halving is bearish for the price until real demand kicks in since it just potential can bankrupt miners.

I know some people that got rich from stuff like RIOT or MARA and others that got obliterated. What is your gameplan for the next 6 months if you have these in mind? anyone YOLOing at certain prices?

Why is MSTR crashing while BTC pumps on ETF copium and where is the bottom?

I was looking to buy some leveraged BTC plays without options insanity. Is MARA also going to crash?

Has everything been frontrun by months and ETF is sell the news by now?

>t. shaky bagholders
Reality is, this shit has been frontrun for months. Corrections are comming. 30k expected.

We are overbought. Everything has been frontrunned for months. Confirmation of bullish news that have been predicted to be confirmed by "90% chances" in advance have a bearish reversal. Simple concept.

>>57220636
MSTR was bought by people that didn't want to deal with shitcoin exchangers but wanted to profit from the BTC pump and dump cycles. So why the fuck would they buy MSTR when they can buy some ETFag now?

The premium is insanely high by now. Im not saying he will go bankrupt, or that he may not be able to provide any premium anymore, but anyone buying this at current prices is retarded. Same goes for BTC itself. It's going to pump then dump as it always happens with mega expected bullish news. And same goes for mining stocks. Everything has been frontrunning for months. Look at these retarded ROIs.

>>57212253
Im younger.
>>57212182
I would buy MSTR but look at the premium, it's retardedly high. And mining stocks have massive ROI last year. How is this sustainable? when ETF hits we don't know how many will dump for the ETF. And ETF may be sell the news event for all we know. It's easy to say "just YOLO bro" but imagine you have to actually click on "BUY" with all of your savings while you have no income.

ETFnoobs frontrunned all of the gains already. Expect big corrections before any reasonable entry points show up.

Anyone that knows what the fuck they are doing regarding miners can explain why the fuck would you buy MARA? seems overbought as fuck. It's too hyped, was the most traded stock in NYSE. This is hysterical mania. Why not buy some of the laggards? or everything is priced in by now in terms of a correction comming in before any continuation of bullishness?

And what about MSTR? who the fuck holds this when ETF about to hit and potentially kill a lot of its premium?

I just want BTC proxies because holding your own keys is dumb and exchanges block transactions anyway. I want to buy 500k and its all blocked at this point. Soon they will make buying any coins illegal on exchanges unless you are a "certified investor".

How are you supposed to stay bullish with these YTDs? ETF and halving has been frontrunned already. Everyone got rich and now you'll be facing a stupid risk:reward ratio with these valuations and with the recession risk looming somewhere in 2024. I lost the opportunity to go all in an retire again. Fuck this shit.

How can you remain bullish with these YTD numbers?
What if ETF is priced in and we sell the news?
WHAT if ETF gets actually rejected?
This shit is too pumped in any case. Things dont go up on a straight line.

I want to get an huge MSTR position, since I have no idea how miners work and I believe people are just buying MARA because they have a bigger BTC stack and not because of anything that has to do with how they even run the company. It's just a more leveraged gamble on BTC price. Not sure how much leverage compared to MSTR, but seems riskier.

In any case, MSTR is so fucking pumped too. How is that premium sustainable? Even if MSTR remains at a premium post ETF, this premium is just too much now, and will get dropped when people have alternatives to MSTR (for many its their only BTC proxy)

So basically we have

1) Overbought miners, being used as leveraged play by money that doesnt even care or know about the companies, they just see MARA is the biggest play and go with it
2) Overbought MSTR as the main fiat to BTC proxy
3) Potentially priced in ETF approval
4) Potentially rejected ETF
5) Just prime for a dump TA wise

>>57118363
How can you remain bullish with these YTD numbers?
What if ETF is priced in and we sell the news?
WHAT if ETF gets actually rejected?
This shit is too pumped in any case. Things dont go up on a straight line.

I want to get an huge MSTR position, since I have no idea how miners work and I believe people are just buying MARA because they have a bigger BTC stack and not because of anything that has to do with how they even run the company. It's just a more leveraged gamble on BTC price. Not sure how much leverage compared to MSTR, but seems riskier.

In any case, MSTR is so fucking pumped too. How is that premium sustainable? Even if MSTR remains at a premium post ETF, this premium is just too much now, and will get dropped when people have alternatives to MSTR (for many its their only BTC proxy)

So basically we have

1) Overbought miners, being used as leveraged play by money that doesnt even care or know about the companies, they just see MARA is the biggest play and go with it
2) Overbought MSTR as the main fiat to BTC proxy
3) Potentially priced in ETF approval
4) Potentially rejected ETF
5) Just prime for a dump TA wise

>I wanted to YOLO on one of these but I pussied out
>I would be retired by now
>everything already pumped as fuck
>powel and co guaranteeing this time is different and a soft landing is expected guarantees a recession

How im supposed to remain bullish for 2024?

If I YOLO in ("the trend is your friend") chances are it starts dumping and I have no liquidity to buy cheap MSTR and MARA shares

If I do not YOLO, chances are they will just keep going higher

If i do like 50% in and 50% cash, it will still suck cause no YOLO gains

Whole thing is rigged

>I wanted to YOLO with 400k in one of these but pussied out
>I would be retired as fuck by now
>everything too fucking pumped
How the fuck im supposed to remain bullish for 2024? Shits priced in.
>inb4 buy my shitcoin bro