/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>58378213
>any /pmg/ og remembers my posts

I too have savored your maulposting since before vengeance was cool, ignore the whiny plebs and keep on plotting my based fren.

>>57324292
>get that graded

Nah, it's ok for proofs or noncirculating commemoratives but actual coins are meant to be fondled.

>>57324404
>I'm betting it's fake.
Those weren't getting faked back in 1961 when based gramps found it in circulation

>>57292175
Ridiculously nice stuff frogbro, very impressive! How does the obverse of the rose didrachm from Rhodes look? They are lovely coins, I still need to find one for the collection. Got a younger reduced weight drachm from Rhodes with incuse square rose reverse for $44 around 5 years ago, seller was really salty because it should've been a $150-250 coin but honored the sale.

>>56766506
>ps : what do you think of this tetradrachm of Alexander the Great? Seller is asking 300€ for it, do you think it's a good price?

Great looking coin, I'm *slightly* suspicious of authenticity because of a few features that might indicate it's cast, but the pics aren't in focus so it's probably just from crystallization of the ancient silver and not orange-peel texture often seen on cast pieces.

Also, while the face of hercules wearing the Nemean lion's skin is purportedly Alexander's it's not actually a tetradrachm of Alexander and is instead a more scarce coin struck under one of his successors. I have one with the reverse showing in pic. The name is written behind the seated Zeus, and the first letter is mostly off-planchet but it clearly reads ΣΕΛΕΥΚΟΥ, can you use what you learned in your Greek classes and tell me who it is without looking it up?

>>56719947
>>56720321
>>56722023

Regarding "reading" and identifying Greek coins, once you have a basic understanding of the alphabet and pronunciation you may find that it's a lot easier than it appears at first. In English (probably French too) many Greek person/place names and other words are simply transliterated into the English language so by just sounding-out the Greek inscriptions you'll understand what they say. On your tetradrachm for example, even if I didn't recognize the type I could look at the text under Hercules which reads ΘΑΣΙΩΝ and largely understand it, as ΘΑΣΙΩ(Ν) = Thaso(s). It's delightfully simple much of the time, as a practically monolingual burger it still surprises me how easy it is.

Most people have never heard of Thasos though, I bet more people know the names of all the fictional Pokemon than even a few actually real places or people from ancient history, so if you are trying to identify an ancient Greek coin and can recognize enough of the letters but can't make sense of them, you can use this ancient Greek keyboard:
https://www.lexilogos.com/keyboard/greek_ancient.htm
Then copy/paste the Greek text and run a search on wildwinds.com or on google for matching coins that are fully identified. This is an extremely valuable trick, as it allows you to identify the "unknown/unattributed" Greek coins that many sellers list and then you can conduct research to see if they are much more rare and valuable than the ignorant seller knows. Either by recognizing those unidentified coins by eye or by using the keyboard and searching the Greek text online to find matches I have slurped tons of killer good deals, for me it's quite intellectually stimulating and fun to solve the mystery and earn the reward of a rare ancient coin (or artifact) at a fraction of actual market value. I bet you recognize the similarity between that and our topwit cheapie-hunting and scrapping approach to stacking, so I'm sure you'd find it very rewarding too.

>>56161533
>>56161559
I'm a fondler so around AU-MS60 is what I'd be looking for, I've seen nicely toned examples in the grade I'd target sell for under $100 on ebay before. I don't want to pay retail so usually wait patiently for deals to pop up but I'll dig around ma-shops and see if anything catches my eye. Thank you for the links fren.

>>56054323
>Now it's so useful we had to empty all our central banks reserves, change laws and melt down 4000 years worth of coinage all over the world just to sustain our industrial hunger for silver from 1970 to today.
>100 years from now silver will be the backbone of mankind's intergalactic empire. This is a fact. And as far as we know, silver doesn't exist in space.

Since I resumed stacking in earnest 3.5 years ago I've been motivated by and shared with others this broad 30,000-foot viewpoint almost verbatim. I don't really care about daily spot price action beyond my dabbling in options trading, the long-term trend is crystal clear and the practical value of physical silver as a critical component of humanity's technological progress will only keep growing. Being the world's oldest monetary metal adds yet more zesty dynamism to an already remarkably exciting element.

Regarding "space silver", analysis of meteorites shows that it is more rare than gold and way more rare than Platinum group metals, so if those asteroid mining memes ever become real we'll have nothing to worry about.

>>55245969
>This honestly looks like some random workers ashtray filled with loose change.

nothing wrong with CuNi schizos, random workers or ashtrays my nonfren 1PBTID anon

>>55173790
>ancient high relief silver coins

When I first saw some at a coin show my dad took me to as a kid I was smitten, nothing more kino than high relief ancients. I didn't know what it was back then but the dealer had a Philip II of Macedon tetradrachm stuffed in a flip and jammed in a coin binder page, both entirely inadequate to contain such a chonky nugget, looked like a hulk about to bust out and smash all the more modern flat plebcoins nearby. The thickness and sculptural dimensionality of the coin really seared itself in my memory.

>>55012424
QT Peace dollars over chungus Morgans, easy choice.
>>55012947
>the fact you can hold something from 1889 in your hand is pretty fucking neato
thems rookie babby numbers fren

>>54653403
I haven't seen that coin before, I really like coins depicting wheat so have added it to the list thanks for sharing

>>54500900

I love fondling coins and hate flips/slabs, I bust them out and store coins worth more than many stacks here loose in bags so I can larp as an ancient merchant.

>>54242311
>These numismatiggers are making me want to buy some ancient coins to stack next to the rounds and bullion

Do it anon, there's no feel like a handful of coins that were already very old when Jesus was born. Just make sure that you don't overpay.

>>53966072
Another day and yet another instance where Eggfag can't resist being a combative dumbass. He likes to claim he has lots of ASEs and constitutional gold but only ever posts pics of stuff he clearly doesn't own. Sad.

>>53966590
>Strange that it would burn, when they supplied it with the furnace. What kind do I need? some kind of ceramic?

Graphite crucibles are probably cheaper and easier to manufacture and are good for electric furnaces, but if you get the oxidizing gas flame on a graphite crucible then it'll eventually burn holes through it, so yeah I think you'll want other crucible options. You'll need to have separate crucibles only used for one type of metal, as beads of metal from prior batches will often remain stuck inside and contaminate subsequent batches of other metals. Not a problem when you're just playing and learning about the process but when you get into silver melting you want some dedicated gear.

What personality types are inclined to piss themselves bitching and crying about things they don't like instead of just ignoring it? Ambivalence is comfy.

>>53861664
>I might have impressed her dad more than the girl.
Well shit fren, that's probably the best way to woo a conservative jeetess. Get some things she would like too but impressing her parents is how it's done in India right? I assume he was anti-vax too, so maybe you should try talking with him and make it known that you're a desirable suitor.

>>53710290
>But just slabbing. auctioning and numisfagging mass produced bullion that are meant for regular exchange is unbased and gay.

100%. Coins were made to be handled, protecting them from yourself in a bulky slab you pay a premium for is peak cuckoldry. It's worse than wearing a condom to fuck your wife, lmao. I can respect true old numismatics being preserved for posterity but identical soulless modern mass-produced coins being immediately entombed by jewish dealers to squeeze profit from unsophisticated midwits is cringe.

>>53710443
>Seems like you have reading comprehension issues bro.

More than just reading comprehension issues, I assure you. He's the guy who was breathlessly shilling $40 ASEs this time last year and promising 200% premiums (2 more weeks bro) while rudely insulting people who stack generics. Because he's a low-functioning autistic retard who thinks people will give him 1 ASE for a dozen eggs he doesn't recognize the hypocrisy of saying
>Who cares what people collect and buy with their own money.
when it supports people buying his precious overpriced ASEs while having attacked dozens of anons over the past year for buying with their own money Asahis or whatever low-premium bullion they like to collect. The eggfag cries out in pain as he strikes you.

>>53295609
Happy to help bud. Ancients are a minefield but way more interesting than modern coins. Zoomers coom themselves over their sovlless mass-produced machine-made stuff but I consider it the most boring and low-IQ facet of numisfagging, there is a whole universe of ancient coins containing 10s of thousands of different issues and probably millions of different die pairings, it's enough to keep anyone sufficiently autistic engrossed for lifetimes.

Be sure to bookmark these encyclopedic coin databases too, very useful:
https://www.asiaminorcoins.com/
https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/

The Hadrian page:
https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/hadrian/t.html

>>53295678
>the platter's about 320g

Nice, up around that size the sterling gets pretty impressive, I like keeping the appealing pieces but probably should pare down the collection and refine some of it. Good luck with the auctions and future sales, the competition can't get everything.

>>53040067
Far from complete and needs updating but it's a good start:

Sellers I've bought ancients from with no issues, many are European so you need to select the "Worldwide" refinement under the "Item Location" section on the left side of the page or you won't see anything. Some sellers don't have anything listed right now but you can check their completed listings to see what they deal in:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/ancient_treasures/m.html
https://www.ebay.com/sch/brunswickthaler/m.html
https://www.ebay.com/sch/blueonceagain/m.html
https://www.ebay.com/sch/ambrussum34/m.html
https://www.ebay.com/sch/alasu_gkha/m.html
https://www.ebay.com/sch/variana_museum/m.html
https://www.ebay.com/sch/romabritanicus/m.html
https://www.ebay.com/sch/fortuna-m/m.html
https://www.ebay.com/sch/ptolomeos11/m.html
https://www.ebay.com/sch/lellien/m.html
https://www.ebay.com/sch/cichosgladiator11/m.html
https://www.ebay.com/sch/numismatiklanz/m.html
Personal favorites, del550 has great stuff but crappy low-effort listings so good deals can often be scrounged:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/numismatik-koc/m.html
https://www.ebay.com/sch/del550/m.html

>>52569254
>Plz be my bf
ok
>52569263
>Silver is a poorfag cope metal
0/10 bait

>>52355283
>I want a shekel of Tyre holy shit

Monitor Numisbids for Shekels and Tetradrachms of Tyre, here are pieces up for sale currently some of which are common and can be obtained for under $200:

https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?searchall=tyre+tetradrachm&p=searchall
https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?searchall=tyre+shekel&p=searchall

As I understand the newer Jew-minted ones and earlier Seleucid tetradrachms of Tyre circulated together so Judas' blood-money would have contained an assortment of both.

>>52353657
lol cope.

>>52203749
I'm comfortable with generics but your choice of better recognized sovereign bullion is sound. I go by completed sold auction results on eBay to gauge actual market prices for different coins. For ancients, websites like APMEX are disgustingly overpriced (literally over 10x fair retail value in some cases) so instead I recommend monitoring the auction format listings of trustworthy sellers on eBay like ancient_treasures who lists around 120 items every week including common ancient artifacts, browse his sold completed items to get a sense for what different pieces sell for:
https://www.ebay.com/str/ancienttreasures
You can get nice silver drachm of Alexander the Great or denarius of Trajan for well under $100, cheaper than most people might think, and chunky tetradrachms of Alexander under $200. If you don't know what you're doing then don't go looking for "good deals" on eBay because there are many scammers and thousands of fakes for sale at any given time so you gotta stick to honest sellers.

>>51691661
>some of us have big stacks, some of us have small, but this is a frenly place, and cunts like you who come in here mocking people who are just getting started, or who aren't that rich to buy big stacks, are not fucking welcome.

Based and frenpilled, non-frens walk the plank.

>>51568800
>Isn't that the end game of silver stacking, rather than gold? to buy gold when the gold:silver ratio corrects?

I preference silver because it resonates with my soul and I've always considered its aesthetics superior. If I were a bong stuck with the 20% VAT I'd still prefer silver but as a matter of practicality my stack GSR probably wouldn't be as extreme. If the market GSR corrects it'll need to drop under 1:20 before I'm compelled to swap a few thousand ounces for gold, still plan to keep at least half of the silver though.

>>51249828
>for most of the worlds history for most transactions, the money has been theoretical. Specie money is actually extremely rare.

Poorfag backwater britbongs and their 13th century wooden tally-sticks weren't representative of the actually civilized world fren, specie money was extremely common and has been used widely for 2500 years. It's true that notional value paid in-kind was relatively common globally but that doesn't mean hard PM coinage was rare; often it was just reserved for more important transactions.