/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>55527451
Please look at this chart and you should understand. You are not reasoning from first principles. This becomes really easy once you do.

>no signs of stopping
fucking lmao

>>54181694
Monero will have a lower supply than bitcoin until 2040. In 2040-2050 bitcoin will succumb to selfish mining attacks due to vanishing miner reward as tx fees cannot keep up[1][2]. In Monero, the block reward stays constant to protect the network, but annual inflation as a % of total supply (inflationary effect) still asymptotically trends to zero.
[1] https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/094.pdf
[2] https://sci-hub.st/downloads/2019-09-06/e8/10.1007@978-3-030-30440-9.pdf#page=241

Might as well repost this here from the other general at >>54129921

Monero will have a lower supply than bitcoin until 2040. In 2040-2050 bitcoin will succumb to selfish mining attacks due to vanishing miner reward as tx fees cannot keep up[1][2]. In Monero, the block reward stays constant to protect the network, but annual inflation as a % of total supply (inflationary effect) still asymptotically trends to zero.
[1] https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/094.pdf
[2] https://sci-hub.st/downloads/2019-09-06/e8/10.1007@978-3-030-30440-9.pdf#page=241

>>54130156
Monero will have a lower supply than bitcoin until 2040. In 2040-2050 bitcoin will succumb to selfish mining attacks due to vanishing miner reward as tx fees cannot keep up[1][2]. In Monero, the block reward stays constant to protect the network, but annual inflation as a % of total supply (inflationary effect) still asymptotically trends to zero.
[1] https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/094.pdf
[2] https://sci-hub.st/downloads/2019-09-06/e8/10.1007@978-3-030-30440-9.pdf#page=241

>>53936062
Monero will have a lower supply than bitcoin until 2040 (pic related). In 2040-2050 bitcoin will succumb to selfish mining attacks because due to vanishing miner reward as tx fees cannot keep up[1][2]. In Monero, the block reward stays constant to protect the network, but annual inflation as a % of total supply (inflationary effect) still asymptotically trends to zero.
[1] https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/094.pdf
[2] https://sci-hub.st/downloads/2019-09-06/e8/10.1007@978-3-030-30440-9.pdf#page=241

>>53753885
The fact that bitcoiners are constantly kvetching over the supply of bitcoin when the most basic aspects of its usability as a currency are hindered (fungibility, decentralization, tx fees, etc.), even when the obstacles to success are completely minor and obvious (e.g. block size debate) should really show you where their interests lie.

Pic related, it is the monero (red) vs bitcoin (blue) supply curve. Notice how the supply of bitcoin . What do you think happens when the inflation of bitcoin reaches zero? Do you think miners will continue securing the network out of the goodness of their hearts? Do you honestly think the network will be able to survive on the fees from 1MB of transactions? Or maybe you plan to dump your BTC bags before then? Look into "selfish mining attacks": https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/094.pdf

The real Inflationary effect is a function of inflation as a percentage of the total supply. This is basic economics. As monero's supply increases, the inflation as a percentage of supply reaches zero, while the block reward stays the same to ensure network security.

>>53755611
Because bitcoin had the chance to change the world until you fucking retards took over in 2017 and ruined everything. The only thing you care about is the price of your bags.

The problem is fundamentally that bitcoiners will go such great lengths to shill bitcoin that they will justify all of bitcoin's bugs (fungibility, mining centralization, bad parameters like block time and block size, insecure emission schedule, even just general bloatedness of bitcoin) as features, and criticize any cryptocurrency like monero that actually fixes the bugs.

>>53756247
Monero's privacy model is constantly changing and improving to adapt to the climate. Bitcoin's privacy model (through LN, CJ, etc.) has stagnated and is becoming increasingly broken and unsuitable, even for regular transactions.
XMR is not the first manifestation of CryptoNote, and it will certainly not be the last

>>49949844
Tail emissions was the true answer all along.

>>49798682
Like this one?

>>30061791
Not quite, but you get the idea. Here is a chart showing the emission of monero vs bitcoin.

>>30027998
>>"Soooowweeeee these hab expiowed :(((("
what? are newfags really too retarded to do their own research?

>>29985055
>I mean why should we do that too?
Well it has a pretty similar supply and inflation rate at the moment, and it has had a parabolic pump just not to the magnitude of btc's. A lot of the interest in monero and altcoins in general is a direct result of the btc bubbles bringing money into the market which eventually flows into altcoins. And people tend to sell their altcoins to cover losses in their btc positions, or to buy btc when it starts to pump. So the goal is to outperform bitcoin otherwise you should just be holding bitcoin, or just buy xmr right before you intend to use it.

>>25955993
how fucking dumb are you

>>25590683
> honestly didn't really understand what you said but the last part
Do you want to understand it?

Bitcoin has a hard limit as the reward is cut in half every cycle. All the mining is expensive and has to be paid somehow, so progressively more and more of the cost will be covered by the transaction fees. If nobody wants to pay the insane fees, the mining isn't profitable and will implode.

Monero solves this by having a 0.6XMR tail emission to infinity. Sounds le at first because the supply is infinite, but unlike the fiat inflation this suppy increase is linear. This means the year-to-year percentual inflation will go down over time. But, even if there are zero transactions, the network is secure.

>>24828877
For reference: The xmr emission curve showing how much steeper it is vs BTCs stepdown curve

>>24485493
I don't really think we should be pushing that narrative, it's cash AND a SoV

>>22495970
most coins are vaporware and only used to speculate. It won't give you the short term gains as shitcoins but in the long run I'd expect it to be the top 3 with btc and eth. Tail emission will incentive miners without the need for high fees. But I could be wrong, it seems like people don't care about displaying their financial information to the entire world.

>>18953678
yes pic related

>>16491317
support freedom, use monero

>>16491328
supply: picrelated
monero migration on dnms started when legal precedent was set that xmr transactions were immune to chain analysis, hence the "unknown amount of xmr" trope
imagine what happens the first time a wealthy man gets divorced and somehow there's nothing there for her to take...

MISS OUT AND YOU DESERVE YOUR POVERTY

>INCREASING DNM DEMAND
>INCREASING OFFSHORING DEMAND
>RING SIGS FORCE FLOOR ON TXN FEES
>RANDOMX IMPROVING DECENTRALIZATION
>PICRELATED

XMR CRYPTOCURRENCY WILL BE WORTH AT LEAST 5000 US DOLLARS BY END OF YEAR 2020
SCREENCAP THIS YOU DUMB BITCHES

>>15465264
Monero really should be a top 5 coin. I’d say it’s worth buying while it’s below that position.

>>15465301
Also this.

BUT I LITERALLY CANT MAKE THIS ANY EASIER FOR YOU