/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>5808623
Still in development. They're having to play nice with regulators. Mandatory KYC will go live mid Q1 2018, so you can expect FIAT sometime after. Before they announced KYC, they said they're aiming for a late Q1 / early Q2 launch. With the exception the 1 week delay on the UI update, they've been hitting every scheduled mark on time since last July.

>>5751339
That's not how mob consensus works, OP.

>>5714073
2009-2015 were basement dwelling NEETs playing with magic internet coins.
2015-2017 is when real money started to move into the space, but still fairly niche.
2018-??? is when real investors start taking blockchain tech seriously. Real projects actually start to grow and shape the financial world.

We're still a year off from these real projects actually having a sizable impact against established giants like Visa. Once the quakes begin and the establishment starts clamoring for regulation to protect their own interests, then you'll know when the bubble is about to pop.

After that comes the fall, when 90% of crypto dies off, and only the real projects remain.

>>5664637
Chinese markets are a different beast. They're not subject to SEC rules, but they are vulnerable to the whims of the communist party.

China's been letting Hong Kong do its own thing for a while now, at least in relation to fintech, but I'm wary of how long that's going to last. They've been reigning HK in in other areas in the last decade. All it's going to take is another "CHINA BANS BITCOIN (AGAIN)" story to pop up and both exchanges get obliterated. Binance will likely survive, but Kucoin is in a very precarious position legal-wise. That's why its such a pain to collect your COSS dividends, because they're very carefully positioning themselves to not be labeled a dividend. Chinese markets just don't care.

Also, neither deals with FIAT pairs, whereas COSS is aiming to be more than just another shitcoin exchange. They're aiming for a late Q1 launch for FIAT pairs, and COSS holders will earn 3x as much from FIAT trading than the altcoin exchange. FIAT exchanges are still the gatekeepers to the crypto world. Any exchange that offers it (with full legal blessing of the host country and SEC) will explode. Since Singapore is basically Capitalism Mecca, I expect this exchange to really take off once it's up and running.

Like I said though, I'm up 5x from initial investment and this shit doesn't crash at all. DYOR.

>>4028659
Enjoy the alts, then dump everything back into BTC in a week. Wait until alts tank again. Buy back into alt positions no less than 2 days before 2X snapshot.

>>4027357
We don't. But it was already approaching the typical bottom if we follow the pattern.

It's possible it could continue down a bit farther since BTC is skyrocketing. But the difference of 2-3 sats isn't going to be that great if it pumps back to 90-100. So I grabbed it at the lowest dip.

It's possible we might see another dip near X2.

>>3979025
Because Jewish populations are largely inclusive, meaning they usually only breed with other Jews.

Because having a higher IQ is one of the few factors we can measure that indicates your likely earning potential over a lifetime.

Because earning a decent income is a highly desirable trait among Jewish families. Therefore, the low IQ jewlets stay home with their mothers and don't add their inferior genes to the pool.

Average jewish IQ is around 110, whereas average American nig IQ is 85, below 75 in Africa. Thats about a 33% boost in brainpower. It all adds up over time.

>>3977209
That's probably the best thing for everyone. Honestly the only coins I'm really interested in are a bunch of non-ERC20 tokens. BTC, ARK, etc.

Would love it if they gave us an option to pick and choose, but the logistics of that would probably be a nightmare. Also they're probably gonna run into ETH manipulation if they start racking up the volume. Can you imagine what would happen if an exchange the size of Binance sold a million coins and bought a shit-ton of ETH every Monday at 1AM?

>>3947003
For now I'm sticking with COSS. Similar payout system, 200k coin marketcap, but Kucoin only aims to be an another altcoin exchange. We already have a dozen good ones. COSS aims to add a fiat exchange, merchant services, crypto card payments, etc etc, all of which will earn COSS holders dividends. I can't pass that up.

Aside from the payout hiccup they've been hitting goals fairly regularly. I've been watching updates hit the exchange every week or so. So I'm gonna sit on my COSS stack a while longer and see what happens..

Stop shilling. This isn't a pump and dump coin, it's a slow burn that's going to take years to pay off. All you're doing is feeding the FOMO that will eventually rot into FUD, helping no one. Buy a stack and forget about it for 5 years.

>>3843245
Light isn't regulated retard.

>>3818119
I've been calling 160k for weeks now. BTC's moon pushed that a little lower. Now it's holding relatively steady.

tl:dr Buy now or be poor forever.

>>3815405
>40k users receive free money.
>20k users sit on their meager earnings
>20k users immediately sell their coins for profit
>Xchange volume goes up, earning more payouts for coin holders.
>Word spreads over the next week.
>50k users receive free money...
Repeat ad nausem.

It's goddamn Keynesian economics in coin form. Given that I'm in on the ground floor of the pyramid scheme, I love it.

>>3796280
OMG just bounced off of its anticipated support.
ARK, TENX, MTL NAV VTC are all around their lowest support.
ODN, SALT, SUB, LINK, COSS are all new projects with some room to grow. If it weren't for BTC's action we'd be seeing a bit more green out of these today.

Those are all my picks right now.

>>3762871
If you were going to create a crypto scam, you'd make a pump and dump ERC20 token and hold an ICO. The sheer investment cost of setting up a working exchange is leagues ahead of what they could make by dumping everything now.

If you want to make money long-term, take your scam and turn it into a legitimate business.

>>3744549
Blackmoon will be a little better.

But LAT has working product now. If first-mover advantage were everything, Iconomi would be king right now. So clearly it will come down to who balances superior product and fast development, and I think LAT comes out ahead in that regard.

That said, there's more than enough room for multiple coins that do basically the same thing. Ford doesn't dominate 95% of the vehicle market just because they made their fortune with the Model T.

>>3696024
For confidence in product and general professionalism of the team:

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But this post is specifically for the pump-and-dump moon mission. If you're willing to bet some cash, fuel the rocket and wait for a decent spike the next time there's some news. But as Wolf says in his post, there's no advertising for this coin, so there's no way to tell when it might take off. You're likely to miss out on other, better spikes if you just let your cash sit in TKN.

>>3596248
This... is actually a legitimate answer that I had not considered..

>>3462211
You can expect a bit of a pullback if BTC doesn't recover before then. Technically everyone's BMCs are worth about... 90 cents on the dollar right now.

There's also the possibility that quick-flippers might mess with the price for the first couple of weeks. You might see it go 4x in the first day before crashing back to 1x or slightly less. Also the roadmap they laid out took us 5 years into the future, but the first real progress won't happen until 2018. So it's going to be relying almost completely on hype until then.

But I firmly believe this is superior to Iconomi, see >>3462297 You're always taking a chance with ICOs. If you don't believe in the product, you're better off just selling the moment you get your coins. But there's the chance that you're missing out on buying the next ETH for $1 a coin.

>>3404617
Of course it was never fixed. It's the same reason we have fiat currency. If people saved their money instead of going tens of thousands into debt, the entire system would collapse. The only way to keep a system the size of the federal government going is to take 66% of a person's yearly paycheck. People joke about debt-slavery, but it's the entire basis of keynesian economics. Why spend tomorrow what you can owe today?

Next crash is just around the corner. Several high profile billionaire are pulling out of the stock market. Tens of thousands of people never really recovered from the last one, only burrowing deeper into debt. Only reason it hasn't already happened is Trump winning, giving the economy a much needed positive outlook boost. But it's not going to last forever. This was (((their))) plan all along, to drive everything into the ground so that your dependence upon the State is so complete that you have no choice but to queue up for the bread lines. And now they're pressing the pedal to the floor in the hopes of pinning it on Trump, so they can point and say, "See? If you'd just listened to us in the first place we could have avoided this entire thing. Now give us another 5% of your paycheck, goy. It's for the starving black children. They're Americans too. You don't hate black people, do you?"

>>3379095
I mean, I used to be 4x my investment, but then I threw in more fiat. Now it's only 2x.

The OMG moon mission is about to change that.

>>3374544
Just hold until the government finally gets its butt in gear. Keep as complete records as you can just in case. If you have to fudge the numbers a bit to make them work, how are they ever going to prove it?

Also, vote Trump 2020, because even if he doesn't get around to it you can bet the Dems are slavering to hand out your magic internet money.

>>3003840

>200 days in, hasn't fully staffed his administration.
>Completely dependent on Democrats to stop blocking his nominations because of Muh Rusha.

Really grinds the old gearbox.

Trump has the ability to sell an image. Whether that image actually succeeds is up for debate. But he diversifies, which is why he's been so successful over the years. There's always something else cooking away on the backburner just in case the main dish catches fire. He's already made his millions, so if something he made burns to the ground, he just pays the fines and moves onto bigger and better things.

My one concern for the Presidency is that he hasn't shown all of his cards yet, so there's a chance that if he meets enough resistance (from both sides of the aisle) he'll just fuck off to something more lucrative. But the progressives are so focused on the shiny red cape he's waving that they're completely forgetting the anvil behind it.