/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>12794066
>>12794079
It's not going to come crashing down in a "random moment", there will be a specific trigger when it happens, even if the underlying reason has to do with debt and the systemic features of capitalism.

One thing you have to realize to understand the bottom graph, however, is the extent to which that's the result of accumulation in the capitalist class. Capitalists save more than ordinary people, and so the more money they have the more demand there is for investment assets driving prices up. This is, however, related to capitalist crisis, as debt gets used to keep consumption high and overaccumulation starts to set in and therefor over production

>>12510559
>capitalism doesn't require force
You see that's the biggest meme I've ever heard and you should know here of all places how painfully obvious of a falsehood that is.

Make a thread right now complaining about your own wage slavery every one will understand. Make a thread complaining about taxes, intellectual property, or civil asset forfeiture the same thing.

For profit prisons, the state enforcement of property and corporate law, ect, all really existing capitalism. Nor is the black market a utopian escape from force by leaving the watchful presence of the state, the sheer amount of interpersonal violence at the heart of underground loans, drug dealing and other rackets tells you all you need to know.

I do not claim communism is some perfect realization of an ethical system, but at the very least no one would have to sell their labor to survive.

>>11986639
reposting from the last thread

Leverage has already surpassed 2008 levels, defaults are rising, emerging markets are slowing, the housing market is struggling, FAANGs are all in hotwater with or without trade war, profit rates have been stagnant for several years now, and retained earnings for durable good manufacturing have stagnated too.

Stagnant profits has been the underlying fault line of all the most serious crises including the great depression, 70s stagflation, 2008 crisis.

Retained earnings for durable good manufacturing have also stagnated or fallen ahead of the last three recessions (which is all we have data for). It's not hard to imagine why. What are the biggest durable good markets? Housing, cars, heavy industrial machinery. All products that often require leverage, meaning problems in these sectors are extremely capable of spreading contagion to the rest of the economy.

Things don't look pretty from where I'm sitting.

>>11898739

>>7341060
>I-I-it's just a correction
The dialectic is in motion, comrades.