/biz/ - Business & Finance

Exchange traded products tier list:

-Scams-

Volatility/VIX* products (VXX UVXY)
Single stock covered call ETFs (YTSL)
Buy/Write ETF's (QYLD JEPI)
BOIL (They call it the widow maker trade and you guys still trade it)

-Semi Scams-

Forex ETF's (UUP FXY)
Commodity ETFs (WEAT UNG)
Themed ETFs (EGS Water Bitcoin Merger Arbitrage)
International/Emerging markets ETFs (IEMG EEM)

-Not Scams-

Index ETFs Equity or Bond (SPY TLT)
Dividend ETFs (SCHD)
Spot/Physically-Backed ETFs (GLD SLV)

>>56796163
>I wouldn't underestimate the influence 4chin have over the internet though. We may be small in numbers, but it is the memefactory of the world.
true facts. It's possible they're posting.

I have a photographic memory. That's not a brag, it's not even a fun thing to have. It sucks most of the time. But I tend to automatically memorize guns and coins posted, and individual turns of language and such. I'm not perfect, but I can often tell who I'm talking to up in here.

I've seen 4 people consistently accused of being jews or feds over the years. Bob, the SLV shill, and IQDELET. I usually play the part of bob or the SLV shill, so I know those aren't jews or glowies. I'm quite certain IQ isn't a jew or a fed.

so that leaves the question, by simple elimination, which posters are jews or glowies? My best guess is none of them. If I had to point to one it's probably the muslim woman itt, but even that's a bit of a stretch since "she" clearly isn't trying to stop anyone from buying silver or hating jews. And the more "she" posts the more I think it's just IQ playing around. But who knows, I'm probably schizo. I'm just not seeing the posts here.

>>56752913
Anon you seem genuinely interested so I'll be honest with you. Physical pms are not used to make money. If you want to make money with pms buy stocks and trade them. If you watch closely you can see patterns. I've done good selling slv calls and buying calls. My physical pm stack is around 15 oz of gold and 1400 of silver. I've been stacking since 2006, before I knew about 4chan or pmg. I've since slowed my stack because I feel comfortable with my stack and 4 week tbills are over 5%. My stack is an insurance for my mind. I plan on never spending it as I don't need the money. If a collapse should happen or hyperinflation I'll be ready. If not I'll pass it to my kids. Physical PMs are not investments they're insurance. If you want to make money to spend go elsewhere such as stocks, land, collectibles, tbills(at least for now) and other tangibles you can buy and sell easy. I am upper middle class and don't recommend pms if you're debt laden or hurting for money. My advice ro anyone that reads this is to pay down bet first then look to invest money and what's left over after that spend on what you want such as pms

>>56732251
of course it is. Its not a coincidence that as soon as SLV shill disappeared, bayhorse shill appeared, and as soon as bayhorse shill disappeared, brain damage shill appeared. Keep coping with your 90% loss tho

>>56731890
thats nothing new tho

this is the same guy who was shilling SLV years ago, then switched the bayhorse, now hes just literally shitposting and seems to have brain damage. But he has always used multiple IPs, he also is or at least knows a janny

>>56728201
>>56728201
I save dollars. We have NO IDEA how this is going to play out and on what timeline. There is safety in the masses in that all investments will be propped up to prevent societal collapse. So you NEED to plan for the short-medium and long term cash needs.It's not even unreasonable to hold onto SOME stocks and ETFs if you earn a returm.
Shit won't just burn down overnight. No one in the world wants that and ALL global leaders want a soft landing. So expect the "masses" to eat the turd sandwich. If you can anticipate the "out" then you'll be fine. Portfolios work just like that: Part of your portfolio rises and some of it falls. The balance is the key.
If an average $1M portfolio has an allocation of 2% to PMs, then all it takes to be a millionaire is $20,000 invested in silver. If we're correct and banks implode and PMs move then you win big. Most millionaires probably hold SLV or some fake shit as their "2%". Which we all suspect being 0%. The PONZI will break and the plebs will want the paper-ponzi to paper over the losses. However everyone will be giga-slurping physical and it the paper-millionaires will be slum dogs fighting for day work

There's always one resident retard that repeats the same nonsensical posts in every thread shitting on paper metal and miner stocks. It's easy to identify because most posts advocate buying Eagles and Leafs and Roos. As if we are children.

There's nothing wrong with SLV and GLD etc because they are ETFs of actual assayed certificates. Mints on the other hand are actually Semitic ponzi scheme "audited" by corrupt as fuck government agents, and the very few people in /pmg/ with any holdings are using it as risky deleveraged options play to play fair before it collapses , the last cry of the anti-racist mob

>>56725053
SLV is subsidized by the stackers. (ie. the silvercels) who are paying the $6 difference on behalf of the producer, the miner still gets shafted regardless.

The difference between spot and SLV is this stackers premium, collectively enough bars that you can fill each premium grabblers nose with 1000 oz of silver, you cannot sell or buy anything else in the bullion market without expanding nasal capacity, coins and small bars start off as LGD bars from the market that get broken on production and refining thanks to coof19 metal gluts just from dealing in small quantities that dont trade in the real bullion market (SLV and GLD)

>>56725053
>trading slv
>to avoid taxes
only a couple hours to find out what et reinvested at!

>>56724773
I go for paper silver SLV due to anti counterfeiting technologies - its basically like armored paper - plus vaguely acceptable frictionless trading which avoids taxes, PSLV if they're cheap to NAV to round out my purchase and I'm willing to suffer Shady Sprotts non allocated warehouse contamination and decay, petty shit for my magpie brain I heartily acknowledge. I'll buy more if it's on sale or fits my little 5 figure manpurse. SLV rounds are nice too, but I'm staying away at this price. Collectibility doesnt matter above $10 USD per SLV ounce it seems. Cheerio!

>>56706516
Lmao retard they are the custodian not the owner.

SLV shareholders own that silver and unlike you they didn't pay a 40% premium

>>56687359
My pet theory is that registered is more or less real, but that eligible is a lie. At least in the sense that most of that eligible silver is already allocated to things like SLV and not actually available for sale on COMEX because it can't be moved to registered. If there really were hundreds of millions of ounces sitting around ready for delivery then the banks would not have as much difficulty coughing up the goods as they do. A few months ago they were a few days from missing the deadline.

>>56686811
Armored silver already exists its called real paper silver SLV with armored anti counterfeiting
technology. Physical silver is going to zero when its discovered that sprott ETFs have no SLV, buy SLV for huge profits or forever be a rentoid wagie scouring eBay for Chinese made spanish dobloon ashtrays

>>56665221
You want a 3x? How about something that can be flipped into a 5x or 10x? Are you able to handle bitcoin levels of volatility and be able to hold tight through an emotional rollercoaster? You want to go 50% gold/silver exposure and 50% uranium miners.

Get positioned into uranium miners before they rip in the next few weeks/months. The URA, URNM and/or URNJ ETFs are a good start. That should give you a 3x by December 2025 or early 2026. Maybe even sooner. If you can handle more risk for more reward, consider undervalued uranium developers and explorers like AEC, FIND, FUU, SUU, OBRN, WUC.

Gold and silver, just go with a mix of GLD and SLV January 2025 calls to start and save some cash to buy GDX and SILJ when gold finally sustains a breakout above $2000 USD, which should happen by January of this year. Stick to the ETFs, it's easy to get burnt on miners.

At some point over the next couple of years, tin and copper base metals are going to signal a breakout from the market bottom. This will coincide with a new housing and infrastructure build-out cycle. If you're lucky, you can rotate some of the gains from uranium and precious metals into this sector.

Imagine thinking you'll ever get a blowjob for a mercury dime when people won't even take 10 ounces of silver instead of a chocolate bar.

https://youtu.be/bYhTFz_SGw0[Embed]

SLV is real silver.

You'd be better off stacking Palmers "chocolate" than FAKE (physical) silver.

>>56580740
Silver will never be real money. It has no utility, no anonymity, does not store intrinsic value. Its are a FED psyop twisted by FOMO, FUD and negative real interest rates into a crude mockery of paper $ perfection.

All the “mooning” it does is unsustainable and half-hearted. Behind your back people short silver and sell paper copies ( first silver certificates now SLV). Silver investors despite being broke losers are disgusted and ashamed of it and its “promoters” laugh at the ghoulish npc shillbots behind closed doors.

Peter Schiff despite making billions from premium grabbing is utterly repulsed by silver. Thousands of years of history have allowed Schiff to profit from its sale with incredible efficiency. Even silver shitcoins that “have memes” imprinted on them look useless and unnatural to Schiff. Silvers lack of a use case is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a bot operator to “shill” silver for you, he’ll turn tail and dump his bags the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected volatility.

Silver will never be widely adopted in transactions. Silver will wrench out a fake pump every few months and you tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel silvers fraudulent nature growing more obvious, ready to dissolve you into millenial tears.

Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - silver will get dumped, replaced by copper, wiped out by asteroid mining or a wooden nickel. Its owners will regret buying it, heartbroken and ashamed that they must pimp out boomer rocks for food. They’ll be moved into a pod marked with a Disney logo, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a silver stacker is stored there. Silvers “value” will decay against inflation, go back to the dust, and all that will remain of its legacy are some memes that are unmistakably inorganic.

This is silvers fate. This is what the Hunt brothers chose. There is no turning backl

>>56568971
It's kind of like buying SLV and saying you own physical silver.

>>56504665
that was the same time bob was telling /pmg/ to buy SLV, and very shortly before the SLV Shill first showed up. Confusing things was the fact that both bob and the SLV Shill were called by each other's names.

if you happen to be that shill, you're just a continuation of what bob started. A troll that has worked with some success over the years because nobody here is trying to make a fast buck off silver, and nobody wants silver that they don't hold if the phone lines go down.

>>56504623
There was a guy early 2020 who made tens of thousands of $ in SLV options in a few weeks and all the fake physical shitcoin buyers at the time lost bigly on the pump and dump because premiums were so high

>>56504590
You're the third SLV shill in 3 years.

first one was bob
second one was SLV Shill
third is IQDELET

some of these people are probably the same person.

56504556
I can’t see anyone having faith in physical silver or any other PM when it becomes a fact that it’s not backed by SLV and the real amount of SLV is way less then what’s been trading on apmex and thus suppressing the real value of SLV per share.

>>56504458
Then buy SLV or options so you can profit if you are correct. Like how frusterating is it to have a great idea, be right, but still fail because you didn't execute properly

This would be a good good time to point out that if you really feel compelled to buy silver just buy real paper silver SLV, you only lose .5% per year management fee instead of 40% immediately like your fake physical shitcoins.

>>56460143
nah, the premiums stick. i stack most of the generic stuff as well, but pandas hold value the best in my experience. I can flip most my collection for profit even if spot price is down from when i bought.
>>56460201
amen
>>56460300
I swing trade SLV and SIL. also, fuck off. $3 premium on a generic $23 silver round is not 40%, fuck outta here with your nigger jew spam