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>> No.9997709 [DELETED]  [View]

>>9997691
Look in the other thread bro. They are paid out in ETH. If any one wants to use my ref link to get free 15$ usd when they sign up and deposit at least 160 usd. Been shilling this shit since day one and people finally realize that this is legit.

http://www.manbiwang.com/channel/#/pcRegister?id=1029788

>> No.9922158 [View]

>>9922089
Oh I'm not. I'm laughing.
It's almost like a rush, I'm just laying on my bed browsing my phone and I see this.

If you want to see why I was frustrated before tho, go look in the archives. Go search find the threads I made daily. And every time I had a gang of deluded faggots coping in any way possible.

I left 'fundamentals' out of my threads on purpose. I hope i don't need to explain why . I only posted facts, times biz lied and was wrong on their calls, failed Link events etc. But still....id get bashed and insulted by desperate bag holders.

This is a good day for me anon, enjoying this moment before I sleep. When someone says they are genuine and warns anons to cut losses repeatedly ,maybe this can be a wake up call to you mongs.
Fud can be very helpful, and is never a one sided situation. RIP

>> No.9234922 [View]

AssBlaster, I wrote this the other day and it was Insta buried.

ASSBLASTER... I Don't know if you are still here or not. I'm sorry that these faggots weaponized their autism and doxxed you. You didn't deserve that.

I want to thank you. From the bottom of my heart I want to thank you for what you've done. You've risked your very livelihood to bring us insider information, in a completely selfless act that didn't only not benefit you at all, but put you at risk, and for what? A bunch of thankless neckbeards on a Chinese basket weaving forum.

I am a humble man. I live in the American Midwest and work hard 60+ hours a week. But through your insight and information you have shared with us, know that I have managed to accumulate 26,060 LINK as of now, sitting comfy on my trezor until the time id right, making this stack of seemingly useless internet monopoly money the second largest investment of my life behind my home. And its all thanks to you.

Everything that you have told us has come to pass. And I believe that trend will continue, and that some day, I will be able to break these chains of wage enslavement and experience true freedom, and there is no one else on earth that I can thank for that other than you.

I hope you read this. I hope you know that we're not all the rabid autists who hunted you down and doxxed you. I hope you know that by the time this is all over I believe you will have made a huge difference in a lot of people's lives. And I hope you know that your legacy will never die. The pink wojaks will flow thru the biz board carried along by the tears of the salty no-linkers, the very group you tried to help, while those of us who heeded your advice and wisdom will cheer loudly, "ASSBLASTER! ASSBLASTER! ASSBLASTER!" ... What a glorious day it will be.

Again, know that I'm a nobody. Just a guy with a small stack of LINK and a dream, but some day, I hope to buy you a beer and shake your hand.

Thank you, ASSBLASTER

>> No.8934984 [View]

AssBlaster, I wrote this the other day and it was Insta buried.

ASSBLASTER... I Don't know if you are still here or not. I'm sorry that these faggots weaponized their autism and doxxed you. You didn't deserve that.

I want to thank you. From the bottom of my heart I want to thank you for what you've done. You've risked your very livelihood to bring us insider information, in a completely selfless act that didn't only not benefit you at all, but put you at risk, and for what? A bunch of thankless neckbeards on a Chinese basket weaving forum.

I am a humble man. I live in the American Midwest and work hard 60+ hours a week. But through your insight and information you have shared with us, know that I have managed to accumulate 20,011 LINK as of now, sitting comfy on my trezor until the time id right, making this stack of seemingly useless internet monopoly money the second largest investment of my life behind my home. And its all thanks to you.

Everything that you have told us has come to pass. And I believe that trend will continue, and that some day, I will be able to break these chains of wage enslavement and experience true freedom, and there is no one else on earth that I can thank for that other than you.

I hope you read this. I hope you know that we're not all the rabid autists who hunted you down and doxxed you. I hope you know that by the time this is all over I believe you will have made a huge difference in a lot of people's lives. And I hope you know that your legacy will never die. The pink wojaks will flow thru the biz board carried along by the tears of the salty no-linkers, the very group you tried to help, while those of us who heeded your advice and wisdom will cheer loudly, "ASSBLASTER! ASSBLASTER! ASSBLASTER!" ... What a glorious day it will be.

Again, know that I'm a nobody. Just a guy with a small stack of LINK and a dream, but some day, I hope to buy you a beer and shake your hand.

Thank you, ASSBLASTER

>> No.8934896 [View]

AssBlaster, I wrote this the other day and it was Insta buried.

ASSBLASTER... I Don't know if you are still here or not. I'm sorry that these faggots weaponized their autism and doxxed you. You didn't deserve that.

I want to thank you. From the bottom of my heart I want to thank you for what you've done. You've risked your very livelihood to bring us insider information, in a completely selfless act that didn't only not benefit you at all, but put you at risk, and for what? A bunch of thankless neckbeards on a Chinese basket weaving forum.

I am a humble man. I live in the American Midwest and work hard 60+ hours a week. But through your insight and information you have shared with us, know that I have managed to accumulate 20,011 LINK as of now, sitting comfy on my trezor until the time id right, making this stack of seemingly useless internet monopoly money the second largest investment of my life behind my home. And its all thanks to you.

Everything that you have told us has come to pass. And I believe that trend will continue, and that some day, I will be able to break these chains of wage enslavement and experience true freedom, and there is no one else on earth that I can thank for that other than you.

I hope you read this. I hope you know that we're not all the rabid autists who hunted you down and doxxed you. I hope you know that by the time this is all over I believe you will have made a huge difference in a lot of people's lives. And I hope you know that your legacy will never die. The pink wojaks will flow thru the biz board carried along by the tears of the salty no-linkers, the very group you tried to help, while those of us who heeded your advice and wisdom will cheer loudly, "ASSBLASTER! ASSBLASTER! ASSBLASTER!" ... What a glorious day it will be.

Again, know that I'm a nobody. Just a guy with a small stack of LINK and a dream, but some day, I hope to buy you a beer and shake your hand.

Thank you, ASSBLASTER

>> No.8934019 [View]

AssBlaster, I wrote this the other day and it was Insta buried.

ASSBLASTER... I Don't know if you are still here or not. I'm sorry that these faggots weaponized their autism and doxxed you. You didn't deserve that.

I want to thank you. From the bottom of my heart I want to thank you for what you've done. You've risked your very livelihood to bring us insider information, in a completely selfless act that didn't only not benefit you at all, but put you at risk, and for what? A bunch of thankless neckbeards on a Chinese basket weaving forum.

I am a humble man. I live in the American Midwest and work hard 60+ hours a week. But through your insight and information you have shared with us, know that I have managed to accumulate 20,011 LINK as of now, sitting comfy on my trezor until the time id right, making this stack of seemingly useless internet monopoly money the second largest investment of my life behind my home. And its all thanks to you.

Everything that you have told us has come to pass. And I believe that trend will continue, and that some day, I will be able to break these chains of wage enslavement and experience true freedom, and there is no one else on earth that I can thank for that other than you.

I hope you read this. I hope you know that we're not all the rabid autists who hunted you down and doxxed you. I hope you know that by the time this is all over I believe you will have made a huge difference in a lot of people's lives. And I hope you know that your legacy will never die. The pink wojaks will flow thru the biz board carried along by the tears of the salty no-linkers, the very group you tried to help, while those of us who heeded your advice and wisdom will cheer loudly, "ASSBLASTER! ASSBLASTER! ASSBLASTER!" ... What a glorious day it will be.

Again, know that I'm a nobody. Just a guy with a small stack of LINK and a dream, but some day, I hope to buy you a beer and shake your hand.

Thank you, ASSBLASTER

>> No.8909572 [View]

AssBlaster, I wrote this the other day and it was Insta buried.

ASSBLASTER... I Don't know if you are still here or not. I'm sorry that these faggots weaponized their autism and doxxed you. You didn't deserve that.

I want to thank you. From the bottom of my heart I want to thank you for what you've done. You've risked your very livelihood to bring us insider information, in a completely selfless act that didn't only not benefit you at all, but put you at risk, and for what? A bunch of thankless neckbeards on a Chinese basket weaving forum.

I am a humble man. I live in the American Midwest and work hard 60+ hours a week. But through your insight and information you have shared with us, know that I have managed to accumulate 20,011 LINK as of now, sitting comfy on my trezor until the time id right, making this stack of seemingly useless internet monopoly money the second largest investment of my life behind my home. And its all thanks to you.

Everything that you have told us has come to pass. And I believe that trend will continue, and that some day, I will be able to break these chains of wage enslavement and experience true freedom, and there is no one else on earth that I can thank for that other than you.

I hope you read this. I hope you know that we're not all the rabid autists who hunted you down and doxxed you. I hope you know that by the time this is all over I believe you will have made a huge difference in a lot of people's lives. And I hope you know that your legacy will never die. The pink wojaks will flow thru the biz board carried along by the tears of the salty no-linkers, the very group you tried to help, while those of us who heeded your advice and wisdom will cheer loudly, "ASSBLASTER! ASSBLASTER! ASSBLASTER!" ... What a glorious day it will be.

Again, know that I'm a nobody. Just a guy with a small stack of LINK and a dream, but some day, I hope to buy you a beer and shake your hand.

Thank you, ASSBLASTER

>> No.8870306 [View]

AssBlaster, I wrote this the other day and it was Insta buried.

ASSBLASTER... I Don't know if you are still here or not. I'm sorry that these faggots weaponized their autism and doxxed you. You didn't deserve that.

I want to thank you. From the bottom of my heart I want to thank you for what you've done. You've risked your very livelihood to bring us insider information, in a completely selfless act that didn't only not benefit you at all, but put you at risk, and for what? A bunch of thankless neckbeards on a Chinese basket weaving forum.

I am a humble man. I live in the American Midwest and work hard 60+ hours a week. But through your insight and information you have shared with us, know that I have managed to accumulate 20,011 LINK as of now, sitting comfy on my trezor until the time id right, making this stack of seemingly useless internet monopoly money the second largest investment of my life behind my home. And its all thanks to you.

Everything that you have told us has come to pass. And I believe that trend will continue, and that some day, I will be able to break these chains of wage enslavement and experience true freedom, and there is no one else on earth that I can thank for that other than you.

I hope you read this. I hope you know that we're not all the rabid autists who hunted you down and doxxed you. I hope you know that by the time this is all over I believe you will have made a huge difference in a lot of people's lives. And I hope you know that your legacy will never die. The pink wojaks will flow thru the biz board carried along by the tears of the salty no-linkers, the very group you tried to help, while those of us who heeded your advice and wisdom will cheer loudly, "ASSBLASTER! ASSBLASTER! ASSBLASTER!" ... What a glorious day it will be.

Again, know that I'm a nobody. Just a guy with a small stack of LINK and a dream, but some day, I hope to buy you a beer and shake your hand.

Thank you, ASSBLASTER

>> No.8869943 [View]

AssBlaster, I wrote this the other day and it was Insta buried.

ASSBLASTER... I Don't know if you are still here or not. I'm sorry that these faggots weaponized their autism and doxxed you. You didn't deserve that.

I want to thank you. From the bottom of my heart I want to thank you for what you've done. You've risked your very livelihood to bring us insider information, in a completely selfless act that didn't only not benefit you at all, but put you at risk, and for what? A bunch of thankless neckbeards on a Chinese basket weaving forum.

I am a humble man. I live in the American Midwest and work hard 60+ hours a week. But through your insight and information you have shared with us, know that I have managed to accumulate 20,011 LINK as of now, sitting comfy on my trezor until the time id right, making this stack of seemingly useless internet monopoly money the second largest investment of my life behind my home. And its all thanks to you.

Everything that you have told us has come to pass. And I believe that trend will continue, and that some day, I will be able to break these chains of wage enslavement and experience true freedom, and there is no one else on earth that I can thank for that other than you.

I hope you read this. I hope you know that we're not all the rabid autists who hunted you down and doxxed you. I hope you know that by the time this is all over I believe you will have made a huge difference in a lot of people's lives. And I hope you know that your legacy will never die. The pink wojaks will flow thru the biz board carried along by the tears of the salty no-linkers, the very group you tried to help, while those of us who heeded your advice and wisdom will cheer loudly, "ASSBLASTER! ASSBLASTER! ASSBLASTER!" ... What a glorious day it will be.

Again, know that I'm a nobody. Just a guy with a small stack of LINK and a dream, but some day, I hope to buy you a beer and shake your hand.

Thank you, ASSBLASTER

>> No.8569204 [View]
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So a little off topic from biz, but you see that everyday. This is an urgent message to help donate to the American Kratom Association as the fight is raging to keep this medicine available for people to consume and fight opioid addiction as well as many other debilitating conditions.
Personally, I've had over 5 years of experience with kratom. Used primarily for energy and anxiety, it proved effective. It works for chronic pain and so many people have experienced good results. Some have had side effects, but for the most part weren't as severe as prescription opioids. Big Pharma attacks anyone who tries to look out for themselves and not use their drugs. They don't give a crap about you or how much you hurt. So why not stand up for it? We're on the verge of having to decide if we want to conform to corruption or take back what is rightfully ours: the right to choose what we can and can't do with our bodies.

Here's a link to donate to the AKA. Dave Herman has spent countless hours trying to get the word out. https://interland3.donorperfect.net/weblink/weblink.aspx?name=E343084&id=11

Kratom is an indole opioid. Serotonin is indole. So the relationship with this plant is one with our bodies. I can't remember the last time I got sick because kratom boosts your immune system and helps fight off infections.

Constipation and dry skin are about all the side effects I've experienced. The problem is not having quality kratom available. Some deaths have occurred, but were most likely due to combinations of drugs and/or laced kratom with a tramadol metabolite or something else. Fentanyl killed someone I was close with. Countless people are overdosing and nothing is being done about it.

If you're biased against kratom, take some time to read and look into what people have experienced before you judge it. I had a family member disregard it on the spot. Coming from someone who takes 10 different meds a day. Stop the poison!

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>>7979393
>>7979918
>He will never reveal himself
He already has.

Domain Name: SMARTCONTRACT.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1525753567_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.name.com
Updated Date: 2017-09-26T23:16:22Z
Creation Date: 2008-10-25T18:47:41Z

>On 18 August 2008, the domain name bitcoin.org was registered.[11] Later that year on 31 October, a link to a paper authored by Satoshi Nakamoto titled Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System[12] was posted to a cryptography mailing list.

It is true, about the date.
The way BTC expanded fits his style of doing things; initially no marketing, only a few technical and ideological individuals working and investing on the project. Eventually caught media attention. Besides, Satoshi Nakamoto and Sergey Nazarov share the same initials... Like Nick Szabo inversely does too. Maybe it was a joint project, in this text >>7977232 it is said that the name "Satoshi Nakamoto" is way too fitting for the Bitcoin idea so it was certainly made up by somebody(ies).

he needed an organic community to build the test model (bitcoin) so the improved blockchain(ether) could be utilized to launch his decentralized oracles. The smart contracts was the main focus from day one. Link will make bitcoin look like an afterschool lemonade stand. All future systems will be monitored and executed by chainlink tech. Its comfy knowing I have already made it in the future.

>> No.7769744 [View]

>>7769711
And I was feeling bad about my 420 LINK. Hopefully that will be $42k one day and I'll be out of poorfaggotry and able to use playground money to make it.

Get all you can! Check your green ID and those digits.

>> No.7088547 [View]

>>7088457

> Anonymous (ID: 87I9xGws) 01/30/18(Tue)00:11:37 No.7088457▶

>>7087663 (OP)

I'd dip my toe in right now but honestly that's about it. I'd wait for a clear upwards trend to really dive in. Overall the project is great and it solves a difficult problem but LINK seems to be trying to do too much at the same time vs. competitors like Mobius and Oracalize.

If Sirgay comes through then sure you'll be fine but how sure of a bet is that? I went through his linkedin profile and questioned if he's someone that can really stay committed to a project of this scope for the long term.

this has to be bait... because its bullshit.

LINK does one thing, and it does it well. Mobius promises the kitchen sink in a soupy amalgamation of ideas done better by other projects. They literally copypastad portions of their whitepaper from other projects, and if it ever sees the light of day it will do a little of everything, but so poorly that no developers will ever built on top of it, choosing instead a modular approach to dApp development... you know. kinda the whole point of decentralized apps.

>> No.6566548 [View]

>>6566045
AssBlaster, I wrote this the other day and it was Insta buried.

ASSBLASTER... I Don't know if you are still here or not. I'm sorry that these faggots weaponized their autism and doxxed you. You didn't deserve that.

I want to thank you. From the bottom of my heart I want to thank you for what you've done. You've risked your very livelihood to bring us insider information, in a completely selfless act that didn't only not benefit you at all, but put you at risk, and for what? A bunch of thankless neckbeards on a Chinese basket weaving forum.

I am a humble man. I live in the American Midwest and work hard 60+ hours a week. But through your insight and information you have shared with us, know that I have managed to accumulate 20,011 LINK as of now, sitting comfy on my trezor until the time id right, making this stack of seemingly useless internet monopoly money the second largest investment of my life behind my home. And its all thanks to you.

Everything that you have told us has come to pass. And I believe that trend will continue, and that some day, I will be able to break these chains of wage enslavement and experience true freedom, and there is no one else on earth that I can thank for that other than you.

I hope you read this. I hope you know that we're not all the rabid autists who hunted you down and doxxed you. I hope you know that by the time this is all over I believe you will have made a huge difference in a lot of people's lives. And I hope you know that your legacy will never die. The pink wojaks will flow thru the biz board carried along by the tears of the salty no-linkers, the very group you tried to help, while those of us who heeded your advice and wisdom will cheer loudly, "ASSBLASTER! ASSBLASTER! ASSBLASTER!" ... What a glorious day it will be.

Again, know that I'm a nobody. Just a guy with a small stack of LINK and a dream, but some day, I hope to buy you a beer and shake your hand.

Thank you, ASSBLASTER

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ASSBLASTER... I Don't know if you are still here or not. I'm sorry that these faggots weaponized their autism and doxxed you. You didn't deserve that.

I want to thank you. From the bottom of my heart I want to thank you for what you've done. You've risked your very livelihood to bring us insider information, in a completely selfless act that didn't only not benefit you at all, but put you at risk, and for what? A bunch of thankless neckbeards on a Chinese basket weaving forum.

I am a humble man. I live in the American Midwest and work hard 60+ hours a week. But through your insight and information you have shared with us, know that I have managed to accumulate 20,011 LINK as of now, sitting comfy on my trezor until the time id right, making this stack of seemingly useless internet monopoly money the second largest investment of my life behind my home. And its all thanks to you.

Everything that you have told us has come to pass. And I believe that trend will continue, and that some day, I will be able to break these chains of wage enslavement and experience true freedom, and there is no one else on earth that I can thank for that other than you.

I hope you read this. I hope you know that we're not all the rabid autists who hunted you down and doxxed you. I hope you know that by the time this is all over I believe you will have made a huge difference in a lot of people's lives. And I hope you know that your legacy will never die. The pink wojaks will flow thru the biz board carried along by the tears of the salty no-linkers, the very group you tried to help, while those of us who heeded your advice and wisdom will cheer loudly, "ASSBLASTER! ASSBLASTER! ASSBLASTER!" ... What a glorious day it will be.

Again, know that I'm a nobody. Just a guy with a small stack of LINK and a dream, but some day, I hope to buy you a beer and shake your hand.

Thank you, ASSBLASTER

>> No.6354542 [View]

>>6354088

There is a difference between front end software and middleware, vs direct transactions of trillions of dollars across borders. If you think the UK gov will allow banks in the UK to use Ripple when settling trillions of dollars you are deluded. CLS settled 11 trillion transactions in one day, that’s the amount of money that needs to be audited and overseen. They are not going to let a bunch of neck beards who printed off 100 billion chuck e cheese tokens handle that kind of responsibility.

>>6353948

I am EXTREMELY skeptical of any coin or token being used for large financial transactions between banks for reasons I said above. Government oversight etc, that being said if LINK has SWIFTs support long term it could operate as a delayed means of b/t, ie not settlement later like ripple (bank buys ripple in country x, send to y, y sells ripple) but rather to send secure info to the other bank of an incoming transaction or interest payment which the bank would credit you then debit the other bank.

The difference between these two may SEEM trivial, but it’s crucial. LINK operates WITHIN the existing auditory framework established by governments and banks, Ripple seeks to circumvent it. This will not be tolerated and I’d be surprised if LINK doesn’t overtake ripple in the coming years. Screencap this. Also not using trip code cause on phone now, but ID checks out.

>> No.3684643 [View]

>>3684513
You do realize there is an endless supply of fiat, it's so endless that everyone on this board could make 10000000000% gains.

((((They))) would just print more.

Fiat is worthless, it is accepted by normies who suck the teet of the government because they don't know any better and are too lazy and caught up in sports and shit to care.

Bitcoin was $1 at some point, I wouldn't be surprised if there is someone still holding 10,000 BTC from that time.

Put yourself in that persons shoes, which is worth more to them now their $10k they spent back then or the 10,000 BTC?

You probably don't have any history in BTC, but look into Cyprus bank runs in 2013.

One day that situation will hit the USA and it will be a literal shit storm. Bank runs, riots for food, anarchy.

You know where the people in Cyprus put their money into to make sure they had access to buy basic necessities and so banks couldn't literally steal their money?

Bitcoin.

First link is an article from 2013 on Cyprus, next is from 2017 about the EU, it links to the first article in that article also.

https://www.cnbc.com/id/100597242

http://bitcoinist.com/eu-proposes-account-freezes-to-prevent-bank-runs-bitcoin-to-the-rescue/

>> No.2055038 [View]

>>2054965
Ok.

So you want to at least sign up for Coinbase and Gemini Exchange.

Both will ask for ID and what not for verification. With Coinbase it was almost instantaneous, with Gemini it took a couple of days. When you sign up at these exchanges, they give you the option to link your bank account directly to them- do so.

I know Coinbase has a $15,000 per week Sell Limit for new users, but that can go up over time as your account matures. Gemini doesnt seem to have any as far as I can see.

On top of those, youn also get MyCelium Wallet which has an option to sell $1000USD per day, everyday, which adds up quite a lot over time.

Now while doing this, you want to check up repeatedly on news regarding USDT (United States Dollar Tether). It was initially how one was able to exchange Bitcoins to USD in one lump sum by selling your Bitcoins for USDT, and then letting your bank know you have USDT that you wish to exchange for dollars into your bank account. Unfortunately, for the time being, USDT is going through some problems so you cant do this YET. Watch for news on USDT and in the meantime use the above exchanges to change your BTC into USD.

You can also use localbitcoins to sell BTC peer to peer. Ive also heard good things about BitPanda and Kraken, but do not have any experience with them as of now.

Good luck, and if you appreciated this advice and are feeling generous, a tip in Bitcoin would be great if at all possible...

1GBNtWMpLsuSRb4azKb2vuTmGcpqrp99os

I promise to reinvest it in the market and not spend it on stupid shit. Thanks man and good luck.

>> No.936328 [View]

>>936288

>buy things one click with fiat
No you can't you lying sack of shit.

You need a bank account which means government issue ID and fucking around all day, you then need a credit card which is literally 1960's tech. After which you must create a payjew account and link all that shit to your amazon. All your purchases are on record and subject to terms and conditions which can cause your accounts to be frozen. Governments can access your bank account and apply restrictions; cypress anyone?

Bitcoin is far more convenient and superior.

>> No.606134 [View]

>>606111
Here's the tablets I bought. Didn't want to post the link until it was closed so I wouldn't get any competition. http://www.liquidation.com/auction/view?id=8931001
Cost to buy these tablets: $140 after shipping.
Price they go for on eBay: $50 each X qty 7 = $350
eBay and Paypal fees: Est. $35 total for all 7.
Cost of shipping: Prob also $35.

I'm still making a profit around $150.
Time and effort put into venture:
--10 min to find bulk lot and bid on it
--10 min to list the first tablet
--2 min to list all other tablets
--10min to get to post office and 10 min to stand in line
Total of 172 min, or 3 hours.
$150/3 hrs = $50/hr.

Plus most of my time spent listing and searching for lots is between customers at my full time job, so I'm not really spending my time on it as I'm already technically being paid. All I have to do is go to post office once a week, and I set all my items to end on the same day so I only make one trip a week. So really, not a lot of effort is required.

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