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986401 No.986401 [Reply] [Original]

Can someone review my issues with Blender and present a diagnosis? I'll be actively comparing myself to someone else that started at the same time. Both have no previous practical experience (Mine was like 2 parts of the Blender donut years ago)

Please help me decide what to do

>> No.986402

nigga how can u fail at blender? whats ur goal

>> No.986404

This involves making lewd/mild NSFW for a /vg/ general.

These following three are mine, remember the first one, it's the latest one.

https://files.catbox.moe/ mvy20q.png

https://files.catbox.moe/ uk3qyz.png

https://files.catbox.moe/ niq3zt.png

This is the work of the person I feel compettitive about, jealous.

https://files.catbox.moe/ dir9u6.jpg

https://files.catbox.moe/ jtagae.jpg

https://files.catbox.moe/ t0drb9.jpg

https://files.catbox.moe/ r7jovq.jpg

>> No.986407


u have no sense of composition or lighting. actually look at ur refs and see what sets them apart, or look at any tutorial on these topics

>> No.986408

all of these are bad but your newest one would be better than all the others if you turned up / added a fill light + pushed overall exposure a little more in camera or in post.

>> No.986409
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He can and has made lots of others renders. He can make more than me, he's better than me.

I take too long doing things and I don't know why. I tinker and tinker and it doesn't even come out right. I struggle with posing, I don't understand poses at all.

Remember this
https://files.catbox.moe/ mvy20q.png (just join it, nsfw)

It took me 6 hours, I watched tutorial vids in the meantime but 6 hours and I failed. This is the 3rd render I make in total.

I didn't even add cum or sweat, I wasted time.

I don't know what you guys are talking about. Plus I couldnt get the tongue to make contact or spit effects, her expression and background clutter. I'm tearing up at my failure

>> No.986411
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This one took me 5 hours I think
Why do I take so long to deliver nothing but shit?

Composition? I use references but I don't understand composition. Should I just copy the references for now as I see them?

You guys have no idea how much I struggle with poses. I don't understand it and can't pose for shit.

>> No.986413
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I clumsily try to set a camera one I realize the pose cant work. I tinker and waste time with poses and nothing works
I am frankly discouraged to try again after failing. Cant even get body fluids, cant get anything. I can't do poses or expression, he is better. Why?

So what's my problem?

>> No.986429

jannies, rangeban him please.
he does similar whiny stuff for ~2 years already.

>> No.986430

>try to learn something
>rightfully complain and worry about it
WTF hate him

>> No.986434

this troll been here for 7 years give or take

>> No.986443

Can I get some feedback?

>> No.986445

>So what's my problem?
No eye for visual art, sorry to say this. Cut your losses and try something different, this is the best advice you will get

>> No.986446

It's what I feared. I have no visual talent. I have no talent
But why? Where can you see this?

>> No.986449

heh its like Global Illumination is the only Illumination u know.

>> No.986455
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The latest had a 4 light set up, it still looks like nothing
I failed.

>> No.986460

Can someone ban this attention seeking faggot already?

>> No.986461

I just want advice or a diagnosis

>> No.986466

diagnosis: schizo and/or pedo and/or troon
advice: 1 dose of .45 ACP applied directly to the forehead, temple, or roof of mouth.

>> No.986467

Im neither

>> No.986474

Yes you are. I'm a professional psychiatrist.

>> No.986512

Still asking for feedback

>> No.986546

Have you considered you might be stupid?

>> No.986555

Yes, but even then that can be worked on.
What are my issues? I believe I am complicating stuff for no reason
Review this

>> No.986625
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needs more lighting. You have to light it like it's a movie set. Not with logical light like the ones you have models for in the scene.

>> No.986626

and on this note I saw this one lewd 3d animation recently that had "bad lighting" like if it were a real film he would have failed to light the scene well. specifically the light appeared to be mounted on the camera, like an old camcorder or a news camera. Well to my eyes anyways the "bad lighting" made the scene look more real.

>> No.986631

Just watch some videos on photo composition. It's not that difficult

>> No.986699

I've been trying this but there's a lot I don't know. Lots of post I need
I guess, I am just worried I am not a natural

>> No.986709

>I am just worried I am not a natural
maybe you should watch Marco Bucci's video about how he became a pro artist who works for Disney and Marvel etc. despite having no talent when he started

>> No.986711
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I've practicing lights and yes, there is an improvement in every scene. Now I see my mistakes clearly
So I have no talent? Why?

>> No.986718

watch older pixar and you'll see how shitty a lot of the rendering actually is, what carries those movies is their fundamental understanding of composition/camerawork, color, form, sound, movement... It goes way deeper than a "4 light setup". Natural 'talent' is just being able to pick up on these things on an intuitive level, we all know an amazing artist who cant really articulate what theyre doing to make their work "good". Not having this doesn't mean you can't hone it in a much more deliberate way, but if you plan on making a career out of it you'll be competing with 'natural talent' the whole way

>> No.986719
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I think I am unadventurous and that's why I fail. I don't dare to just try and improve.
I see.
I know what you'rr talking about. I am into paintings too. But do you agree with me not having talent? Why?
Been watching vids about composition

>> No.986722

you're just now taking interest in this, while the people youre comparing yourself to have been interested in it since they were little probably. People who take this sort of thing seriously dont just think about it while theyre working or when they look at paintings, it literally becomes the lens they see the whole world through on some level. Look for beauty in everything you see and it will manifest in your work

>> No.986726

I rewatched a bit of The Incredibles recently and was amazed by how horrible some of the scenes and characters looked, kind of impressive. Of course they still made it work and feel awesome

>> No.986772

That other person started at the same time, 2 weeks ago?

>> No.986775

They probably had either more experience with making art in general, or possibly a better innate sense for composition and render concepts.
Either way, there's nothing stopping you from getting good enough to impress the philistines on /vg/, probably within a few more weeks

>> No.986777

My problem is I am ashamed of myself. Even when I draw, anything creative.
I made a scene with enough tinkering that can already look like their stuff, bothered to add fluids, play with rough and such, picked an easy pose. Lights, best ive done so far.

But I am ashamed of myself, of doing anything creative. So I dont practice enough, ive done 5 renders in total. I am shit due to not being brave enough to do more. Instead I whined and complained and got depressed. I am somehow embarrassed of this

>> No.986927
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>jealous of someone who is barely better than you
kinda weird

1. your lighting is bad. it's worse than if you just used one of the hdris which come with blender, let alone downloaded a more interesting one off a hdri site. look at people who are actually good (not your competing anon) and try to recreate/reverse engineer their lighting. turn off all your lights and go through them one at a time to see if it's doing what you want it to do. adjust them until they are doing what you want, namely highlighting areas in the image, making things contrast against the background, creating interesting shadows, lighting things so you can see the details, etc. in your latest pic you have a few lights off to the side but the face is dark and you can barely see anything on the dick. also try to make the lights exist in the world of the image rather than just inexplicably existing
do this and other tutorials where you download the project files and try to apply the lessons yourself don't just blindly copy what they're doing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bum0F00TaKU

my biggest lighting tip is that eye highlights (which you don't have) are extremely important as they instantly give life to the character. make sure they're small (light with small radius) otherwise they look weird/bad

>> No.986928
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2. your composition is also bad. your latest picture has terrible framing with a huge pointless area on the left and the focal length makes it even worse. there is contrast between the bg and foreground which is good but why even use a background if you're just going to leave it completely unlit and have the character on an un-textured cube(???)
tighten up your camera on the areas which matter and if you need to make it a vertical image then do it

see attached picture for the difference an fov adjustment can make (ignore bad deformations) and i'm not saying you should be using one or the other but try to think about it and see which works best for your picture. your latest pic's low fov is making the face/dick/hand way larger compared to the rest of the scene. if that's the look you want then fine but try to think about what you can do with the camera to change how your picture looks

3. your posing. you have fallen for the classic newbie trap of "what do i do with this hand oh god i know i'll make her grab her boob". try to be a little more dynamic and think about the position your characters are in. is it a comfortable pose? is it even realistic position for a human to be in? where is the character distributing their bodyweight? are the shoulders in the correct position relative to the body and arms? if you need to just get in the position yourself

your second picture (black void one) has the best posing. it has the best lighting too since you've actually made an effort to rim light her but it is overall quite bland
also stop being neurotic and shaming yourself for not being good, nobody starts out good. no one is naturally good at things. you need to learn over time

>> No.986929
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Thanks for the feedback. Yeah, now I've seen vids of lighting and such I realize how bad my stuff is, same with my framing.
I did go back into changing the light for that and there's a bit of a difference but beyond a three point set up, I'm too new.
Your Jinx example is good, I just saw to stick on 50 to 30 mm range and as a newbie I got scared.
I have no idea what I am doing beyond trying to copy r34 pics or magazine pics (black void)

I neer to think more, been on panic auto pilot and reacting to my own pics.
Care to add me on discord for feedback please?

>> No.986931

I just cant replicate poses at all
Tried right now with a simple BJ kneelong one and couldnt position her back
I cant do it

>> No.986932

yeah that lighting looks better from the thumbnail. there's also the extra step of taking your render and using post effects on it to make it even better but probably just stick to the basics for now
>I neer to think more, been on panic auto pilot and reacting to my own pics.
maybe stop panicking for no reason, you aren't under time pressure unless you have a terminal illness or something. this is meant to be fun. i have a huge reference folder i refer to so it's not "bad" to try and copy existing stuff, don't feel guilty or whatever about it
and no i don't give out my discord, apologies

>> No.986933

I just failed right now
I couldnt understand how to position them to get the same desired angle as the pic, it was a double bj so 3 model

Im anxious and depressed, dodnyou read how long it took me to get those pics, 6 hours for two explicit ones
I dont get posing, that worries me
Well I do hand it out, and Im going to try at least
Its phanterfan

>> No.986934

just relax you don't need to do everything perfectly the first time you try it. you also don't need to do things in a specific time frame. i've worked on some pictures for multiple days and some for just a few hours, if it takes time to get it how you want it then that's just how it is
it sounds like you have very bad anxiety problems which should be a higher priority to fix than improving your 3d porn abilities

>> No.986936

I am anxious yes.
Its just worries me that I was unable to understand and replicate the pose, do I bend the back? The neck? I couldnt get the angle so I panicked
Can you at least take a look maybe? Keep my tag or watch the thread?

Trust me, I don't get poses
Even did the pose myself to try to see which bones bend

>> No.986939
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I spent 20 minutes trying to get the neck and head to perfection to the reference
(This is why I take so long btw) and O cant make sense of it

>> No.986940
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And I dont think I can get it. I should fucking end it, thats what I should do
I cant understand 3d poses
I couldnt make someone kneel and look decent

>> No.986941

Look at her neck, thats suicide worthy to me
Look at her fucking neck

>> No.986942
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Another example
I just dont get poses
if I dont get poses what remains? It might be impossible to improve of I cant get poses right now

>> No.986944
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20 fucking minutes
Spent tinkering with her neck
This >>986940 is what I get
Who am I kidding? I cant do this? I dont understand poses, fucking poses. I have a human body, I should get them but I fucking cant

I am crying again right now

I couldnt get thr two girks to kneel and guess what? Have their necks and head look up

If this is giving me trouble, Ill never improve its over i dont have talent

>> No.986945

I couldnt do pic related
Thats my issue here
I couldnt, I cant do it

>> No.986965
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So I got banned from a discord abiut nsfw blender

>> No.986966

it's strange that this board attracts such a high percentage of schizoposters

>> No.986979

its easy to download a model from smutbase and make a render. Making your own models/learning how to draw is much harder.

>> No.987001

I can't imagine why that would happen

>> No.987002
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I cant pose her neck

>> No.987010
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So should i continue
How even
I cant

>> No.987011

that's a good start, now make them come and sugondis

>> No.987012
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Fuck off
I failed
The neck is not exactly as the reference
Angle of the neck and shoulder

>> No.987032

2D isn't 3D, genius. 2D artists cheat anatomy all the time. Find the cheat in 3D that makes it work.

>> No.987033
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I cant do it
So I shouldnt use 2d refs?

>> No.987035

Maybe stop being a perfectionist bitch, and settle for "good enough".
"Wah, wah! it doesn't match 100%!" Shut up, cunt. Make the neck look not-retarded.

>> No.987038

I did not finish the idea at all

Fuck i fucked up badly

>> No.987045

End result


>> No.987047

Your personality is way worse than your works will ever be if that makes you feel better. Fuck I would blow my head off I had to interact with a whiny self deprecating no self esteem piece of shit like you on a daily basis

>> No.987052

she looks like she's afraid of you lmao

>> No.987054

oh my fucking god the retarded schizo from /v/ went here too. More insufferable than our colombian retard

>> No.987065
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>> No.987068

I want feedback

>> No.987069

is this song a message to the haters?

>> No.987073

Can you give feedback? >>>/trash/66678062

>> No.987119
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I can't do it. Its impossible
I dont get lighting at all

>> No.987123

Unironically golden comment, thank you for this