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Anonymous Thu Jul 9 18:33:44 2020 No.754757 [Reply] [Original]

Quality anime hair with good topology, how the fuck do you achieve it?

>Curves
shit topo
>UV sphere and manually do each strand
I will kill myself.

any other method?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 18:39:57 2020 No.754761 >>754757 Curves for Blender or curves for zBrush?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 18:40:51 2020 No.754763 >>754757 Box modeling. It's really the best and only way.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 18:47:58 2020 No.754765 >>754761 I don't use zbrush sadly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 18:49:09 2020 No.754768 >>754763 You mean using the UV sphere method? or an actual box?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 19:12:35 2020 No.754776 >>754757 https://youtu.be/lo_FxdSe_F8

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 19:16:54 2020 No.754778 File: 2.86 MB, 635x606, Reimu_WIP-9_hair-1.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>754776

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 20:33:19 2020 No.754787 >>754776 >>754778 cool I'll check it out tonight. Let's see if I can finally finish this model and start rigging.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 20:38:53 2020 No.754788 >>754787 If you're having trouble, message that guy and he'll probably help.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 20:45:00 2020 No.754790 >>754788 Man I love how niche and kind the anime 3D western community is, I can ask even the pros for help and they help me in less than a day.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 21:05:00 2020 No.754795 >>754790 To be fair, its probably because none actually are pros, they're just enthusiastic hobbyists

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 00:46:51 2020 No.754832 File: 499 KB, 1156x627, vroid.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] if you actually cant model too well, you might as well try the hair tools in vroid uvs were decent enough that i could just make a simple procedural hair texture

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 00:59:02 2020 No.754835 >>754832 Vroid stuff looks fine, but the topology still has intersections, which causes problems if you're doing line art.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 01:20:36 2020 No.754839 >>754757 You use curves, you sculpt them to refine them then you retopo and bake.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 01:22:58 2020 No.754840 >>754757 every strand wirewanked by hand is the only acceptable way anything else is literally soulless

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 11:42:19 2020 No.754907 >>754835 ah, yea for line art it wouldnt work too well i kinda just tried to do how jump force looks which honestly is eh for anime characters anyway

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 12:51:42 2020 No.754912 You should check out the Blender NPR Youtube channel. They have good recources for anime stuff

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 13:30:24 2020 No.754916 >>754757 I've been using curves, and then retopo'ing the result.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 16:23:53 2020 No.754949 >>754916 What methods of retopo should I learn?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 17:27:56 2020 No.754963 >>754757 not using blender for a start

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 17:29:48 2020 No.754965 >>754949 Honestly, just use instant mesh.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 18:20:55 2020 No.754993 >>754963 Are there any good anime hair workflows in other software? I'm happy to pick up another program if its got a good solution to this problem.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 01:07:44 2020 No.755063 >>754963 I've got no money and its for a game I'm planning on selling, I'm not two-faced enough as to pirate a program and then trying to sell a product made in it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 01:09:57 2020 No.755064 >>755063 based, also blender is fine for your purposes I still recommend doing it all by hand. it adds soul.

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 01:12:33 2020 No.755065

>>755064
I have a really busy week coming on so I might not be able to do anything until next week, but I already got the hang of curves and latices, if it's crappy I'll try doing it all by hand and bruteforcing soul into my anime hair.
Can't wait to finish this character.

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 09:58:52 2020 No.755413

>>755063
You don't need to pirate. The only reason you'd do that that I can understand is if you're already deep into a software package and refuse to switch, like if you've been taught Photoshop and now don't want to experience the transition period to Krita. Otherwise, if you'rte starting, just stick to the free shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 22:49:09 2020 No.755540 >>754757 >>UV sphere and manually do each strand >I will kill myself. you make the hair out of duplicated segments which you have already made the UVs for.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 21:14:16 2020 No.755710 This is what OP has been looking for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktqvsYtzK1M

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 21:58:16 2020 No.755721 >>755710 This will still have unmerged strand edges, so it won't hold up well for line art.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 03:46:55 2020 No.755753 >>754757 >Quality >Anime What

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 15:22:38 2020 No.755851 >>754757 >curves >shit topo ????? I don't get it, why is curves bad? And besides, using curves will get you better UVs anyway, for anisotropy. I really don't understand

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 15:36:27 2020 No.755853 >>755851 No good way to join the edges together. Without edges joined together, you get bad shading (unless you just do flat 2tone) and really bad line art.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 15:39:16 2020 No.755856 >>755853 lineart, sure but you'll usually get bad shading on ANY hair mesh you make. That's what normal editing is for.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 15:50:09 2020 No.755859 >>755856 And normal editing is easier and works better the less intersections there are.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 22:56:48 2020 No.758765 >>754757 Curves will give best topo are you retarded?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 22:45:35 2020 No.759423 >>754757 Either sculpt it or use curves with a nice looking hair strand, then retopo. If you want good topo from the get go, box modeling, though it will take longer and look lower quality if you're not super experienced in box modeling.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 1 08:23:20 2020 No.759474 >>759423 you think hairs like the OP pic can be sculpted with a mouse? i dont have one of those drawing thingies

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 1 11:32:41 2020 No.759511 >>759474 >i dont have one of those drawing thingies why are you doing organic then

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 1 13:46:16 2020 No.759533 >>759474 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqWYgrXw7Jk Can be done with mouse. If you are going to do any sculpting without a drawing tablet you are really going to struggle, I suggest investing in decent 80~100 dollar drawing table to start out.

Anonymous Sat Aug 1 14:13:18 2020 No.759537

>>759511
good question, i know i'm asking too much by using the right tools for the wrong purposes and vice versa, but i want to make assets for my games, which means i need to make organic stuff every now and then

>>759533
i can see how that can get laborious, but it also totally looks feasible with a mouse. thank you very much, i'm totally gonna use that workflow on my next mesh!

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 1 14:14:20 2020 No.759538 >>759537 forgot about this part >I suggest investing in decent 80~100 dollar drawing table to start out I do want to get myself one of those, I just don't happen to have the money rn, specially with the whole quarantine thing going on

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 11 08:43:28 2020 No.761603 >>759538 You don't need it, but keep it on your awesome-things-to-get-when-feasable-list. It's worth it,.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 12 00:57:40 2020 No.761815 >>754840 This and only this. Choke on cock, faggot OP.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 19 03:27:37 2020 No.763727 sculpt it - highpoly lowpoly

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 19 08:05:38 2020 No.763771 >>754840 >>761815 Talentless hacks unite!

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 19 08:10:13 2020 No.763775 File: 194 KB, 1000x600, hair.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 19 17:10:03 2020 No.763949 >>754757 >>Curves >shit topo Thats why you clean it up at the end Good topo is overrated, what matters is what looks good, even clipping and intersecting dosnt matter if the end result looks good

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