Daz3D - Free octane edition

[Anonymous No.713092]

Last thread: >>706096

Character Creator 3 Help: (https://forum.reallusion.com/Character-Creator/General)) (https://www.youtube.com/user/Reallusion))

Vroid Anime Tool: https://studio.vroid.com/download.html (now with obj export)

https://github.com/iCyP/edge_to_bone_for_blender_2_8/archive/master.zip (vrm importer for blender)

https://archive.org/details/NSidedQUIDAM3Studio3.52011Multilenguaje(QUIDAM)

Hair Creation: https://mega.nz/#F!uywlSQqS!GzZTEOGcRhiEr8Ve5hwsfQ

Magic poser: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.magicposernew

mobile XNALara:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rendering.engine.cloak

MB-Lab for blender: https://github.com/animate1978/MB-Lab

Daz importer for blender:http://diffeomorphic.blogspot.com/

Daz face plugin:https://gumroad.com/l/nZkCJ?recommended_by=search
DAZtoBlender8:https://gumroad.com/l/CiEpM?recommended_by=search

News:
Dforce strand hair for daz3d
daz is planning on improving the animation tools
free octane renderer for daz:https://render.otoy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=73287&start=10
Daz has "plans" for hexagon

[Anonymous No.713094]

Uh...

[Anonymous No.713101]

>not christmas cuckold edition

[Anonymous No.713102]

>>713101
we didn't get a new render for that one, but perhaps I can make A new years edition?

[Anonymous No.713109]

Anyone have any comparison shots of iray Vs octane I can't fine much online

[Anonymous No.713116]

>>713109
I don't have a comparaison, but I think the free octane plugin only uses one of your gpu's

[Anonymous No.713119]

I've got a nvmeme 2080 ti, is there any reason not to keep my old 1080 ti in the same system for renders? Any benefit or problems?

[Anonymous No.713151]

Is makehuman good yet?

[Anonymous No.713180]

> """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""free""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Daz Studio plugin

[Anonymous No.713188]

>>713180
I tried it and it works.

But... I wonder what all the telemetry is for.

[Anonymous No.713189]

>>713188
LMAO

[Anonymous No.713191]

>>713116
Well I only got one GPU so jokes on them

[Anonymous No.713192]

>>713189
I don't get it

[Anonymous No.713193]

>>713192
A fucking plugin that needs a live connection to work

[Anonymous No.713194]

>>713193
Well, everything is moving towards software being a service instead of something you buy and own.

[Anonymous No.713195]

>>713092
>Free octane edition
>Free octane
?

[Anonymous No.713200]

why octanerender same scene comes out much blurrier than iray? is just shit renderer or what?

[Anonymous No.713205]

>>713189
What are you LMAO'ing about?

[Anonymous No.713209]

>>713200
I'm also getting much worse results
Did octane put out a readme or something for usage in Daz cos I had pretty high expectations of octane, I thought it was one of the top teir renderers.
I feel like I'm missing something obvious.

[Anonymous No.713211]

>>713200
>>713209
make sure you guys are using the "path tracer" kernel, though i wouldn't even bother rendering via octanerender as otoy has been dragging their feet on implementing nvidia's material design language (which has been open-source for a while now by the way) so as it stands now you gotta reshade everything via their "more intuitive" (read: slower to use if you actually know what you're doing) node-based shader ui

[Anonymous No.713222]

>>713211
I'll wait for some loser like thinderhorn to make a basic bitch tutorial for it then

[Anonymous No.713228]

>>713192
>>713205
>People are already so used to always online DRM software already that they don't even see anything wrong with it

[Anonymous No.713229]

>>713192
>>713205
>People are already so used to always online DRM software that they don't even see anything wrong with it

[Anonymous No.713236]

>>713200
>>713209
If Octane has a setting for the pixel filtering radius, reduce it.

[Anonymous No.713294]

>MFW I was about to complain about no renders being posted but then remembered the garbage people usually post.

[Anonymous No.713306]

>That'll be nine dollars
>plus tip!

[Anonymous No.713310]

why is ik so retarded in daz, i move a hand and the whole body goes sideways

[Anonymous No.713311]

>>713310
You need to pin joints, it's dumb.

[Anonymous No.713312]

>>713310
>>713311
Lots of things in Daz are much smoother once you set up some hotkeys. Especially pinning.
Pin where you don't want, drag into place, unpin then pin other side, drag into place. It becomes quite intuitive once you get into the rythem of that

[Anonymous No.713313]

what is the best way to get shit from daz3d into blender? I've tried DazToBlender8 and it doesn't export textures right, and Diffeomorphic Daz Importer gave a error and wouldn't import anything.

[Anonymous No.713321]

>>713306
what site is that? i almost bought everything g3 and up off daz and rendo (based cyber monday sales) and need a new place to buy from soon

[Anonymous No.713327]

>>713313
seclect opbject
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exporft
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defulp seffings
szcale 1%

imporf blendder

[Anonymous No.713330]

>>713327
I tried that, doesn't export textures.

[Anonymous No.713332]

>>713294

> complains about people posting garbage
> posts absolute garbage render

[Anonymous No.713342]

>>713151

nice meme

[Anonymous No.713348]

>>713332
At least it's not gurofag

[Anonymous No.713370]

>>713348
Don't put me in a hole for pigeons

[Anonymous No.713417]

>>713306

I've many questions.

Why is "she" posing with a gun on a beach is one of them.

[Anonymous No.713507]

>>713417
>Guns are illigegal in beach
What third world shithole do you belong from?

[Anonymous No.713511]

How do I create an independent morph from others?
I did "Freeze" thing, but result slider still requires EVERY morph I used to be present to work, even though they don't get dialed.

[Anonymous No.713516]

>>713313
Export in fbx, set up materials by yourself.

[Anonymous No.713676]

>>713516
that's way to tedious, I got the obj to export with textures by clicking one of the boxes, and I got Diffeomorphic Daz Importer to work by trying a different version so I'm ok now, except eye textures don't export right but that isn't too much trouble to fix.

[Anonymous No.713697]

>>713676
https://diffeomorphic.blogspot.com/p/daz-importer-version-14.html
or buy a similar plugin
Though you will have to fix some materials still

[Anonymous No.713704]

Actually, I can't even see "ERC Freeze" option anywhere.
Did they remove it in 4.12?
>>713511

[Anonymous No.713707]

[Anonymous No.713727]

>>713092
>free octane renderer for daz:
I can't find any news or links on the octane site

[Anonymous No.713728]

>>713727
nevermind i found it:
https://render.otoy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=73287

[Anonymous No.713739]

what the fuck is an octane? Can I eat it?

[Anonymous No.713743]

>>713739
>Can I eat it?
No, it's not like your poo.

[Anonymous No.713787]

>>713707
Ching and Chang?

[Anonymous No.713826]

>>713787
Fukmi & Fukyu

[Anonymous No.713911]

>>713826
kek

[Anonymous No.713958]

Is this a render effect, or photoshop post processing?

[Anonymous No.713962]

>>713958
he lists Cinema 4D, Photoshop and DAZ Studio as software used, so I think it's a ps filter and touch up. he may have used Cinema 4D to get defrint render passes, like shadows, AO etc to help with the filters. Can daz do render passes if it can then it was probably a render effect c4d? looks good.

[Anonymous No.713966]

>>713707
someone explain this to me pls
Why do all daz renders I see look like uncanny wax-dolls, is that something intrinsic to daz or is it the creators?

[Anonymous No.713967]

>>713966
It's the creators, they don't know much beyond posing preset characters and hitting render.

[Anonymous No.713996]

>>713966
>>713967
this, lighting and material setup makes a huge difference

[Anonymous No.714005]

>>713707
list assets pls

[Anonymous No.714016]

>>713966
Badly lit Daz renders have a really recognizable look to them. There's plenty of renders that look great that you can't really be sure which renderer they were done in.
Go look at some of the top 3dx stuff on skushe for example. Plenty of the best stuff is done in Daz, a lot of it is taken to other renderers also.
Daz iray is powerful if you know how to use it right.

[Anonymous No.714017]

>>714016
Any recommended resources for avoiding bad lighting? Searching “Daz3d lighting” nets a million results, all talking about how to make good lighting for their niche render.. any generically applicable advice?

[Anonymous No.714018]

>>714017
Three point lighting is a good start. You won't find a catch all fix all product as every scene and character is unique in their placement.
Else, you could just throw HDRIs at everything.

[Anonymous No.714019]

WHERE ARE THE BIIG TITTIES!?!?!

[Anonymous No.714020]

>>714017
Photography and cinematography lighting resources are your best bet.

[Anonymous No.714021]

>>714020
Seconded

[Anonymous No.714036]

>>713958
here's more of this guy's work

[Anonymous No.714039]

>>714017
It's not just dazlighting, it's nothing how to light a rendered scene in general. Look up any good fundementals and it will take you in the right direction.

For Daz I mostly use a mix of hdris and emmissive surfaces on planes

One thing that will really help you to understand this is an iray emmissive Surfaces pack for Daz. I can't remember he exact name, but it has heaps of preset colours at different intensities and just playing with those you can drastically see the changes it makes in your renders.

[Anonymous No.714040]

>>714016
can you post some decent looking ones.

[Anonymous No.714065]

When I export a shirt from marvelous designer into daz (after fitting it properly to the same model/pose) and apply the right morph in daz, the shirt doesn't go to the right place (it's floating under her).

I dont understand what's wrong, I've used this same method to apply this shirt to other poses and it worked normally.

[Anonymous No.714070]

>>713189
so it's streaming all their CP renders to who knows where?

[Anonymous No.714071]

>>714040
Are you trying to pass that photo as a Daz render, or is it just unrelated?

[Anonymous No.714073]

127.0.0.1 telemetry.otoy.com
127.0.0.1 orc.otoy.com

[Anonymous No.714078]

>>714071
It's mama bellucci it's always related anon.

[Anonymous No.714090]

>>714073
Well, i guess it will stop working then
Do all Octane versions have this always online or just the DAZ version ?

[Anonymous No.714098]

>>714020
>>714039
Thanks for the feedback

Is there any meaningful difference between GF3 and GF8? I know they put more options in the morph packs for GF8... but other than /eyelashes/ and making my life difficult with wonky arms on GF3 poses, I don’t see a lot of selling points

[Anonymous No.714099]

>>714098
Theres some face posing stuff but its not a huge difference. I just got some 3>4 transfer options for morphs/clothes and moved on.

[Anonymous No.714100]

>>714099
Do those morph / pose transfer utilities work? I just assumed it would be jank to the highest degree

[Anonymous No.714103]

>>714100
There was a free script for it but Daz shut it down. Now there are paid addons to do the same thing.

[Anonymous No.714104]

>>714100
>>714103
I add, that was for morphs. Poses work fine, just need to adjust arms/legs. The pose corrector tool works well.

[Anonymous No.714109]

>>714090
It still works after filtering those, but I don't know if that does away with the telemetry. Probably not.

I haven't found any information by OTOY on which sorts of data they retrieve, which is a bit suspicious.

[Anonymous No.714142]

>>714109
Nope, it definitely doesn't work when I block DAZ exe in the firewall.
The connection is mandatory

[Anonymous No.714146]

>>714142
Yea that's correct. I was talking about filtering only two domains, the telemetry and the OctaneRender Cloud one.

[Anonymous No.714167]

>>713101

[Anonymous No.714185]

>>714142
Octane has an activation/drm in the paid version. They probably just left that in rather than spend more time engineering.

Additionally, there is the live/online materials database.

The whole thing is rather innocuous. I had the paid version for the last year and haven't had the feds bust down my door yet. You guys can probably take off the tinfoil hats.

[Anonymous No.714186]

>>714142
Why does it matter?
Octane doesn't give a shit what Daz assets you pirate

[Anonymous No.714188]

>>714186
They're probably rendering little girls.

[Anonymous No.714193]

>>714188
Nah, I simply have a strong dislike of this telemetry trend, and also I don't trust OTOY.

But yeah, the other anon probably is rendering little girls.

[Anonymous No.714202]

>>714193
>>714188
I don't think octane would even know though?
I mean, if they were sending screenshots of your viewport it would be very obvious in your uploads.
Everyone can make childlike looking characters with default Daz no add-ons so

I don't really see how it would matter anyway. I doubt octane uploads your renders thats something that they would have been outted for already.

[Anonymous No.714215]

are there any actually good facial expressions packs?

all the popular ones are incredibly overexaddurated and look rediculous

[Anonymous No.714271]

>>714215
Don't use the full value. Most of those packs are designed for specific characters and will look quite different on others.

[Anonymous No.714283]

>>714193
>rendering little girls.
how would a judge even determine the age of a rendered or drawn characters ? How old are polygons ? Are these always the same polygons or are they recreated every time ? A few minutes old ?
Just bullshitting. In my country it's the 'apparent' age of a character but how do you decide wheter she's 17 or 18 ?

[Anonymous No.714284]

>>714283
cut them in half and count the rings?

[Anonymous No.714289]

>>714284
based

[Anonymous No.714345]

>>713966
Daz3d is mostly used by people who are bad at 3D or just artists for quick mock ups.

Now that Octane is free more or less nobody has an excuse for bad looking characters.

[Anonymous No.714351]

>>714345
>nobody has an excuse for bad looking characters
Iray wasn't an excuse, either. There is also 3delight, right? So yeah, having Octane won't change anything.

[Anonymous No.714360]

>>714345
I'm dumb but aren't all raytracers fundamentally identical? Usually I dont notice any diffrence other than color tone.

[Anonymous No.714365]

>>714271
I never do. But even so. I have several face emotions packs and 99% of the time I settle on doing subtle mouth + eye + brow tweaks myself instead.

[Anonymous No.714367]

>>714345
Iray wasn't an excuse either you spastic.
3delight is objectively sub par, but not iray.

[Anonymous No.714390]

>>714367
Isnt the version of 3delight on daz super old for some reason

[Anonymous No.714401]

>>714345

Lol.

[Anonymous No.714402]

>>714390
I don't know never used it I just know it's shit

[Anonymous No.714457]

>>714390
Yes, it's super old. Many versions behind. The new 3Delight is actually quite good.

[Anonymous No.714470]

>>714457
Does daz need to pay in order to update their version?

[Anonymous No.714529]

>>714470
daz Does need to pay in order to update their version

[Anonymous No.714566]

So I HAVE to sign up to download this?

[Anonymous No.714595]

their """""""""anime"""""""" starter bundle is currently free on their site... for whoever might still care, kek

[Anonymous No.714745]

Is there a way to bolt on the vag inside Daz to make a single mesh for export?

Or do i have to go weld verts in max?

[Anonymous No.714747]

>>714595
ew

[Anonymous No.714748]

>>714745
You cannot do that in Daz. You gotta do it in whatever software you move it too.
The diffeomorphic plugin has a one click solution for this inside blender, so you could go Daz > blender >max

[Anonymous No.714753]

>>714745
Select everything in Geometry tool and merge.

[Anonymous No.714797]

>>714748
>>714753
>>714745
not him but if you click on keep vert order at the bottom left, when importing to blender it merges it. I still have the problem of it exporting two vag topologys for some reason, so I still need to delete the one not attached, do either of you know why it does that, I worry it will fuck up any blend shapes I make.

[Anonymous No.714801]

>>714748
>>714753
>>714797
Thank you anons. God speed on your own deviant endeavours.

[Anonymous No.714810]

In 4.12 morphs no longer preserve after merging fitted geografts.
Doubt they will ever bother to fix it.
Where I can find installers of 4.11 ot 4.10?

[Anonymous No.714819]

>>714810
Why merge geographs inside Daz? I honestly don't get it. You don't gain any functionality and there should be no seams if it's a good geograft.

[Anonymous No.714943]

>>713119
I lol at idiots who have no clue what they're doing.

[Anonymous No.714961]

>>714943
Haha gottem!

[Anonymous No.714998]

Any good places I can find car models? Of like, everyday cars? All the websites I’m looking on only have Italian sports cars, vintage, or police cars. Am I just looking in the wrong places?

[Anonymous No.715002]

>>714998
TurboSquid or CGTrader

[Anonymous No.715005]

>>714998
Xnalara/XPS and other game ripped model communities.

[Anonymous No.715006]

>>715002
>>715005
Thanks, I knew there had to be something. Can’t fill a quaint college town with Lotus’ and Mustangs- although, after hearing about all those bribes going on; that’s probably the case in reality LOL

[Anonymous No.715060]

Where can I find some Dog gens?
Closest I've found was Woman’s Best Friend: Playtime from DubTH but it looks quite awful when I anchor it to it's hips.

[Anonymous No.715221]

>>715060
WHO LET THE DOGS OUT!?

[Anonymous No.715225]

I’m trying to render a wholesome scene of two girls holding hands, but just having 2xGen8, a geograft and a handful of props lags me so hard I can barely pose anything without waiting 20 sec between changes
For reference- I’m on AMD Radeon HD 6750M + an i5 if that means anything- I’m not into that nerd stuff
I’m not using Iray preview, but I’m saving ‘frames’ of my storyline on the Timeline- I wonder if that’s causing unnecessary headache, wasting cycles on key frame math when I’m not animating anything. Is there a better workflow for just making a series static scenes with the same props? Would it make a meaningful difference if I switched to posing them naked and untextured until just before rendering?
Any advice appreciated I’m pulling my hair out over here

[Anonymous No.715226]

>>715225
If the lag you speak of is viewport movement, there is an easy fix. picrelated.jpg
Those brief specs make me think you are using a mac. Good luck rendering on radeon.

[Anonymous No.715227]

>>715226
I’m on ‘best’, and yes I am. It just works.. for everything but this, that is
I’ve got 2x2GB DDR, and upgrading that to max (12? 16?) is only like $50- would that make a difference? I don’t know what Daz leans on, or where my machine can be buffed.. the only DDR I know anything about is the excellent PS2 title

[Anonymous No.715228]

>>715227
System ram may make a little difference but it's just time to upgrade fren.
Also make sure to disable all smoothing types until the final render, that may help.

[Anonymous No.715238]

Is this made in Daz?

[Anonymous No.715261]

>>715238
Has all the classic tells of a Daz render

[Anonymous No.715264]

I haven't touched Daz in months but the entire Daz Studio (4.12) crashes now when I try to load a human figure.
I tried to uninstall and reinstall the genesis bundles but it's still crashing. I ran an HDD health check and it's perfectly healthy. Any ideas what could have happened?

Though I did install all kinds of wacky assets in those months willy-nillily, I just didn't launch the actual software.

[Anonymous No.715265]

>>715238
>>715238
best lowpoly cum I've ever seen

[Anonymous No.715267]

>>715264
Weird.
I can still load G3F, G3M and G8M figures, but not G8F.
Which is still a problem. G8F gobbos are my bread and butter.

[Anonymous No.715271]

What morph is this?

[Anonymous No.715299]

>>714819
I can't export model with separated geograft in fbx.

[Anonymous No.715303]

>>715265
I agree. I'm going to need sauce on that, for R&D.

[Anonymous No.715313]

>>715303
its from julay.world
mascot or something

[Anonymous No.715355]

>>715313
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.715395]

BEHOLD!
The latest creation by Oo-FiL-oO (FILIPINO)!

[Anonymous No.715398]

>>715264
Kill the daz folders in %Appdata%
>>715271
Probably a mix of sliders. Post source or more so we can get a better idea.
>>715261
>>715265
>>715313
What did I miss? Was it just the mascot from JW?

[Anonymous No.715401]

>>715398
>Probably a mix of sliders. Post source or more so we can get a better idea.
https://f95zone.to/threads/the-proteus-effect-v0-8-proxxie.5495/

[Anonymous No.715402]

>>715395
Truly the most powerful race on the planet

[Anonymous No.715403]

>>715401
Judging by the primitive hair and clothing that particular character wears, I feel like it's a Genesis 2 female base.

[Anonymous No.715404]

>>715398
>Kill the daz folders in %Appdata%
Do you mean the Content Database Base folder?
I never thought about that one.
Is that advice the Daz equivalent of deleting system32?

[Anonymous No.715405]

>>715403
>>715398
a better question is, what's the best or better looking stylized Disney-esque daz3d morph?

[Anonymous No.715413]

>>715405
Gen2: https://www.daz3d.com/keiko-6 - https://www.daz3d.com/chika-for-genesis-2-female-s - https://www.daz3d.com/juvi-for-keiko-6 - https://www.daz3d.com/eclypse-for-genesis-2-female

Gen3: aiko 7 and expansions - Toon generations and expansions - the girl 7 and expansions - star 2.0

Gen8: The girl 8 and expansions - Tallian for Genesis 8 Female - https://www.daz3d.com/paige-character-hair-and-expressions-for-genesis-8-females - https://www.daz3d.com/hiraki-for-sakura-8 - https://www.daz3d.com/kayma-for-genesis-8-female - Toon generations

[Anonymous No.715415]

>>715413
thank you.

[Anonymous No.715426]

>>715395
Dude is losing it.

[Anonymous No.715427]

>>715264
After letting the crash run for 30 minutes, I got this error, then the gobbo finally loaded in. What does this mean? The log file is also like 50 pages long because it lists hundreds of assets. I can't even begin to figure out where to look at the issue in that.
But it's still loading that long every time, so I still need a fix.

[Anonymous No.715429]

>>715404
Daz will act like it was never installed.
>>715413
This guy weebs.
>>715427
reinstall windows, reinstall everything daz, it's the only way. Dont do third party assets until you confirm basic stuff is fine

[Anonymous No.715430]

>>715429
You're not helping.

[Anonymous No.715432]

>>715430
Assuming that's regarding the daz loading problem. I would do that if facing your problem.
I guess just remove all daz things, delete the folders in your documents folder, public doc libraries and the appdata folders. Reinstall only DIM items and see if issue persists.

[Anonymous No.715434]

>>715432
I have about 600 GBs worth of stuff though, and a HUGE chunk of them were installed by copying the zip files directly into the library folder (retard install).
If I can fix this wihout moving the entire library around, I'd prefer that.

[Anonymous No.715436]

>>715434
>copying the zip files directly into the library folder
OOF
I've went through similar when first starting daz. Wiped my installs many times until I learned to segregate libraries by the source I got them from. You may have to just bite the bullet. You can could always rename that library and use it later, even if there are dupes.

[Anonymous No.715438]

>>715436
Yeah, I'm definitely doing that soon, but I want to hunt this piece of shit asset down now. I'll go dive into the log and the folders.

[Anonymous No.715443]

>>715264
>>715427
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I found the culprit. It was this mothefucking piece of shit asset.
https://3d-load.net/addon-resource/muffin-morphs-for-growing-up/

It keeps crashing everything G8F related infinitely until after about 30 minutes DAZ's debug feature finally kicks in and stops the loop.
And it's not even a good asset, I just download literally everything to see how they work. Well, this is how THIS piece of shit works apparently.

Avoid it at all costs.

On another note, my load times are way better now, but I'm still getting figure load times of around 20-40 seconds, while it used to be around 5 seconds. I get a lot of "Could not find target property for formula" errors in the log but I can't really pinpoint a single big culprit like with the asset above. I keep seeing assets being mentioned that I've had for almost a year now, so I don't know why they're involved in errors now.

[Anonymous No.715447]

USD support in Daz when?

[Anonymous No.715464]

>>715443
Thats one to add to the list. There was a Demon or succubus shape that would preload on to every figure and fuck things up.
>>715447
>USD
wut

[Anonymous No.715482]

>Teen

[Anonymous No.715489]

>>715482
kek. Jane is kinda acceptable tho

[Anonymous No.715502]

Is there a way to weight paint through the mesh? I'm stuck trying to paint a dress but the folds overlap and only the outer surface gets painted ffs

[Anonymous No.715505]

Your guess is as good as mine.

[Anonymous No.715513]

>>715505
That's Gloria from Modern Family. My daughters are obsessed with that show.

[Anonymous No.715522]

>>715482
teen < teen (mommy)

[Anonymous No.715523]

>>715505
>>715513
Finally a gobbo for a generic mutt face.

[Anonymous No.715528]

>>715505
Rohna Mitra is my guess
Not gonna Google how her name's spelt
She was in Boston legal I think

[Anonymous No.715530]

>>715513
correct, it's sofia vergara

[Anonymous No.715561]

>>715505

this guy looks like he facegen some crap, spend 2 minutes editing it, calls it a day and then sells it to hopeless dazlings.

This guy's a fucking genius.

[Anonymous No.715600]

>>715443
Pedos deserve the crash, even your files hate you

[Anonymous No.715601]

>>715600
Fuck you! I'm a mommy purist. But at some point mommies end up making kids for some reason, so I wanted a gobbo for that.

[Anonymous No.715618]

Looking forward to use this juicy(jewcy?) Jewess

[Anonymous No.715637]

>>715561
That's literally what he does. The eyelashes are baked onto the eyelids.

[Anonymous No.715638]

>>715618
Sara Jay?

[Anonymous No.715639]

>>715618
Oy vey, gobbim!

[Anonymous No.715655]

>>715618
>>715638
>pirate it
yikes, they got her body too spot on.

[Anonymous No.715704]

>>715618

>that nose

its like a sexy tucan

[Anonymous No.715705]

>>715704
you only get through centuries of incest anon.
The middle east where the only people with more inbreeding then the muslims are the jews.

[Anonymous No.715722]

>>715618

this guy makes the best models. Change my mind.

[Anonymous No.715724]

>>715722
He's only made two.

[Anonymous No.715729]

>>715618

what hair is that, does anyone know?

[Anonymous No.715756]

I load morphs into puppeteer; I do some posing.. Press ctrl-Z once and figure goes all “This hole was made for me”- and then the file is CURSED. No amount of key frames, figure restoration, ctrl-Z or reloading the file fixes it
Why is this happening to me? Is there any way to uncurse something, or a setting to flip as a charm against it?

[Anonymous No.715795]

>>715724
he also goes by VforVendettaV , pretty neat stuff

[Anonymous No.715796]

>>715795
Does he post somewhere? I remember he had a pixiv but I think he got banned somehow

[Anonymous No.715804]

>>715796
Nvm found it

[Anonymous No.715846]

Good lord the scene navigation is dog shit.

[Anonymous No.715847]

Genesis 8 for Maya can export all those blend shapes but Diffeomorphic can do that and merge a vag in to the mix?

Guess I'm gonna have to get familiar with blender now.

[Anonymous No.715983]

Can I edit something in the surface tab to remove all reflections from skin or clothes or whatever? If so, what?

[Anonymous No.716013]

So i'm trying to bolt this vag onto my sex doll using diffeomorphic but it keeps saying two meshes need to be selected, even though I have.

Any ideas?

[Anonymous No.716017]

>>715983
Do you have something called reflection property in the surface tab?

[Anonymous No.716036]

>>716013
>two meshes need to be selected, even though I have.
it doesn't look like you did, shift+select vag then bod if that didn't work shift+select them in the opposite order, also make sure you are in object mode.

[Anonymous No.716037]

>>716013

If all else fails, export from daz as an .fbx and import into blender. Worked many o times for me when porting a gen figure.

[Anonymous No.716144]

>>716036
>>716037
Oh the issue was that in daz i didn't select the main body when adding the vag. So the vag wasn't parented to the body when i exported them.

[Anonymous No.716218]

>>715756
Does no one really know what’s going on? This is killing me here.
One curious bit is that if I reset figure to zero, it returns and “looks” normal, until I do any posing that includes a “cursed” node- for which the distortion manifests in proportion to the pose distance from Base
I just want my two gen 8 to hold hands.. is that too much to ask?

[Anonymous No.716221]

>>716218
yes

[Anonymous No.716233]

>>715756
>>716218

few things you can try
set total keys to 1
restore figure shape on both posing and shaping
make a new save
close daz
open again


screenshot for me what is in your 'currently used' parameters

[Anonymous No.716241]

these character comverters suck, try to convert regular looking people and it still fucks up the eyes even though it says only "extreme" eyes finna fuck up during conversion

[Anonymous No.716261]

>>716241
Character converter? What are you converting to?

[Anonymous No.716264]

>>715756
>>716218
Do you have a save from before you applied the morphs?
Because, I usually see this mr fantastic stretchy glitch when I have forgotten to select reverse deformations on the MLP options.

[Anonymous No.716266]

>>713092
the ManuelBastioniLab fork
MB-Lab for Blenderlooks interesting

> MB-Lab 1.7.7
>
> Changed:
> Afro Female now the default character on startup
> Updated GUI
> Removed Docs from project directory to it's own repository

off to a great start.

[Anonymous No.716357]

>>716233
I’ve dug around “currently used” param- it’s not a lurking weird param- but somehow one *gets* cursed, like its 0 state is fine, but it can’t be used. An example is “R. hand fist”- when cursed, it 0’s fine- but dialing it, even in reasonable, limited range just stretches the fingers in circles through the wrist, not even the palm
>>716264
What are MLP options (please don’t be referring to a content pack of what I think it is..) .. and reverse deformations?

[Anonymous No.716380]

>>716357
I'm guessing someone made this to take the piss out of mlp fans.

[Anonymous No.716389]

>>716357
he is probably talking about morph loader pro
now iv never used puppeteer, but hes right that stretchy man error often happens when you forget to turn on reverse deformations in morph loader pro

[Anonymous No.716391]

Did this out of boredom. :\

Now what should I do with it?

[Anonymous No.716392]

>>716391
This model is from Homecoming right? And this background it's just a picture. But nice mood overall

[Anonymous No.716396]

>>716392

Yes, the head and the skirt is from Homecoming. The background is JUST a picture. I was thinking of making multiple sets for the clothes and helmet however. What do you think? How about a movie version?

[Anonymous No.716450]

>>716389
A) you should- Puppeteer’s the bomb.. if you don’t mind risking your whole save file to *the curse*
B) I wonder if morph loader and Pupp. Have some overlap behind the scenes- I’ll play with the settings in Morph Loader and see if it makes any difference!

[Anonymous No.716499]

Anyone know of any rat/mouse/rodent morphs for gen female? Can’t seem to find any. There’s that fox one, but I don’t know if I can dform the gap between the two. And then there’s the tail to consider..

[Anonymous No.716589]

is daz good for making traced comics?

[Anonymous No.716611]

>>716589
Yes. As reference for perspective/pose/shading. You still need to know how to draw.

[Anonymous No.716631]

>>716611
Every idiot who has to ask if something is "good" for traced comics definitely doesn't know how to draw. That i can assure you.

[Anonymous No.716658]

>>716631
I he didn't know how to draw, then how can he fish?

[Anonymous No.716679]

How hasn't he gotten sued yet?

[Anonymous No.716682]

>>716380
>pretty
they look like they escaped from silent hill

[Anonymous No.716684]

>>713294
Yep, thats a typical DAZ3d render and you people mock blender users DAZ shitheads do this

[Anonymous No.716703]

>>713294
Her irises are horrifying.

[Anonymous No.716728]

>>716679
He probably lives in a third world country where no one gives a fuck about some foreigner complaining their likeness is being abused.

[Anonymous No.716730]

>>715618
>hair clipping through shoulders

[Anonymous No.716753]

>>716728
Except that no Judge would recognize that it is her because he is a shitty artist and there is no real likeness.
At best it would count as derivative work.

[Anonymous No.716765]

>>716684
blender and daz are meant to work in harmony https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/77802252

[Anonymous No.716767]

>>716765
Visited that url. Am I on a list now?

[Anonymous No.716769]

>>716767
only if you use 3dcoat.

[Anonymous No.716797]

>>716765
why are all asians pedofiles

[Anonymous No.716842]

>>716797
I take great personal offense to that you white devil.

[Anonymous No.716867]

>>716797
They can see the obvious truth - lolis are better than grown women in every way.

[Anonymous No.716900]

does anyone know where in the customize window can I find the rotate / translate tool? I want to change their keybind

[Anonymous No.717035]

>>716900
F3>Viewport Tools

[Anonymous No.717151]

is there anyway I can optimize these hairs to make them not take up 70% of the render time?

[Anonymous No.717224]

Anyone got an ID on this liquid-look latex outfit?

[Anonymous No.717236]

>>717224
why don't you do something like this yourself
...it's piss easy.

[Anonymous No.717255]

>>717224
>>717236
What's the workflow to add those thigh squish morphs?

I had some stockings, then culpted in some squish on the base model, then when I tried to refit some stockings they never fit at the right spot it was fucking tedious and annoying

[Anonymous No.717256]

>>717255
You literally have to be kidding me...

[Anonymous No.717275]

What the absolute fuck is wrong with daz?

[Anonymous No.717276]

does anyone know what Hair and Loin dress are used here?

[Anonymous No.717288]

>>717256
No
What am.i.missing

[Anonymous No.717290]

>>717236
>>717255
>>717256
The screenshot is not from DAZ. It is from TK17.

[Anonymous No.717291]

>>717276
https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/dforce-crossed-overlay-dress-for-genesis-8-females/137079/

[Anonymous No.717292]

>>717275
Looks like they got infested by the same people as the gaming industry.

[Anonymous No.717305]

>>717292
That or they're trying to make their product stand out from the crowd of beautiful people.

[Anonymous No.717306]

>>717275
I almost posted that myself, but yeah...

[Anonymous No.717307]

>imagine the smell

[Anonymous No.717416]

>>717305
Skin cancer stands out as well and I don't want that either.

Sticking daz's Ugliest fucking goblinoid, in an unrelated product, in a shitty looking outfit, in a pose that can only be described as I float with the power of farts does indeed stand out. But I'm not buying it. Cause if I want ugly I just have to hit random dials until I start laughing.

[Anonymous No.717418]

>>717255
For Daz3D "RealFit HDL" comes to mind. I can't think of anything else right now but I've definitely seen others like that.

[Anonymous No.717453]

Daily reminder to start learning blender if you are only a Daz fag right now. Let your penis energy transform into something better. I did about a month ago and I'm so happy.

[Anonymous No.717456]

>>717453
Denied.

[Anonymous No.717474]

>>717456
constantly seeing blender mentioned is what made me switch but also because 2.8 looks so much better than the previous versions. Also I can still use daz but now i know how to make my own shit and I can put it in Daz and put Daz shaders on it.

[Anonymous No.717480]

>>717474
Iv gotten quite proficient at blender personally but what holds me back from doing Daz character renders in there is having to constantly fixt all the materials once it's imported and eat j char has lots of materials

[Anonymous No.717481]

>>717305
This, all of the "goodlooking" Daz Characters look exactly the same to me.

[Anonymous No.717484]

>>717453
Saying you should learn blender is like saying you should learn how to drive a honda. You should learn how to model humans, hard surface modeling or rigging etc the program doesn't really matter.

[Anonymous No.717523]

>>717453
you are wasting your time trying to convince any of these subhuman iq daztards to learn anything else, just come to these threads to laugh at them like I do.

[Anonymous No.717559]

>>717453
Why? Daz is a hobby of mine and I just want to create and render my characters, I don't care about modeling things from scratch.

[Anonymous No.717562]

>>717523
Seething cope

[Anonymous No.717585]

>>717276
https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/rapsody-hair/101635 with some of the morphs used

[Anonymous No.717591]

>>717291
>>717585

nice!

didnt expect the V4 hair

[Anonymous No.717612]

>>714797
I dont know what you are using, but if its NGV8 genitalia and you export with obj, the base mesh of the gens will be grafted onto the figure, and it'll use the original G3/G8 UVs, so the coloring will be off. That where the other shells that got exported come in. Those are called geoshells in DAZ, and they have their own UV mapping with separate textures to fix the gens meat color. There might be 2 of these shells, 1 for the color and the other for "effects" (wetness, overlays), but you only need 1 of those so delete the other.

Other exported products using geo shells should do the same thing

[Anonymous No.717613]

>>714810
Can you link a source? I just want to read more about this problem (forum link works)
>>714819
Some product add their own UVs, and I dont know how this will play out when grafted onto the Genesis mesh

[Anonymous No.717746]

>>713092
how do i into daz3d animations? all the cool kids on patreon are doing it

[Anonymous No.717748]

>>717746
>dat empty nose

[Anonymous No.717751]

>>717746
get animation assets from renderotica or do them manually

[Anonymous No.717752]

>>717751
and how does that work? animate 2? export to blender/maya?

[Anonymous No.717769]

>>717752
...they do their animations in daz using the aforementioned assets if you're referring to the ren'py/unity erotic visual novels on patreon that use daz renders

that said, patreon accounts that exclusively only post erotic animations do them in blender mostly

[Anonymous No.717898]

Who the hell is this supposed to be?

[Anonymous No.717900]

>>717898
That's Jodie Foster before she cut her hair and got railed in that taxi driver movie.

[Anonymous No.717911]

>>717559
I don't model shit, but I still prefer rendering in Blender, because I can easily edit everything I'm not happy with in 3 seconds.

[Anonymous No.717912]

>>717911
How do you set up materials in blender so quick?
I feel like I'm missing something
Every import at a new pose requires me to redo materials

[Anonymous No.717913]

>>717912
What's the problem?
1. delete object
2. import fbx
3. replace materials with old one
I haven't imported any poses, but I'm sure you can import new one and just copypase pose in dopesheet or graph editor

[Anonymous No.717914]

>>717912
Look I get it, I use daz as well but.. like you know what morphs and bones are... right?

[Anonymous No.717928]

Is Davinci the most common SSR in the game right now? I feel like everyone has her

[Anonymous No.717988]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidjagneaux/2019/12/20/daz-3d-joins-sinespace-to-bring-hyper-realistic-avatars-to-the-virtual-worldmmo-platform/#73bef3e55837
I'm guessing morph3d wasn't working out?

[Anonymous No.717992]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea7ODuMrDKg&feature=emb_title
possibility of daz buying this guy out in order to improve hexagon like they did with that hair strand plugin?

[Anonymous No.718066]

>>717988
What do you think the max cup size will be?

[Anonymous No.718105]

>>717992
>order to improve hexagon
that crappy plugin isn't much better than what is already in heaxagon

[Anonymous No.718182]

>>718066
It's quite small (for daz), you can already play now.

[Anonymous No.718326]

Anyone able to suggest some cyberpunkish / android / cyborg content for g8f?

[Anonymous No.718328]

>>718326
Sort main shop by figure and "sci fi"

[Anonymous No.718354]

Happy new years you coomer apologists. May your degenerate ventures find success in the new year and the puritan's blade find more worthy foes.

[Anonymous No.718376]

>>717591
You can make the hair fit newer figures if you position it on the head manually then parent it.

[Anonymous No.718383]

I've seen some addons, like buttholes, are capable of non-destructively adding orifices to the genesis base mesh. As if they apply some sort of mask.
Question: how may I create those masks myself? I tried google for it but I'm getting actual masks (wearable item) for daz models, instead of what I'm looking for.

[Anonymous No.718447]

>>718383
You are looking for geograft.

[Anonymous No.718448]

>>717748
Anyone have any booger assets I can download on the cheap?

[Anonymous No.718450]

>>718447
Oh wow, I didn't know that existed. Looks great.
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.718525]

Hi. Not sure if this thread is appropriate to ask this, sorry if not.
I want to make a guy with a rough looking face. Something akin to the guy from wolfenstein, or the doomguy.
The characters I'm finding for Genesis 8 male are either 'pretty boys', for lack of a better term, or really ugly/old/weird.
May I get some recommendations on characters that look stern?
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.718572]

>>718525
Mix Brute's headmorph with some older or more rugged character's material.

[Anonymous No.718589]

You came to wrong neighborhood, fleshboy.

[Anonymous No.718607]

>>718589
So this is where Cats got it's CG from.

[Anonymous No.718635]

>>713092
Is there a poseable tie available for any daz figure? Like a tie with bones instead of movement morphs?

[Anonymous No.718638]

>>718589
Furries ruin everything

[Anonymous No.718643]

>>718589
AWAKEN MY MASTERS!!

[Anonymous No.718644]

>>718589
*proceeds to add huge veiny dongs* that'll do.

[Anonymous No.718647]

>>718644
I think you wanted to quote >>718638 instead.

[Anonymous No.718650]

>>718589
>>718638
daz knows it's a dog eat money world they live in and furries have ALOT of money.

[Anonymous No.718651]

>>718589
What's with the melon heads?

[Anonymous No.718654]

any tutorials available for animate that are not 9 years old? thanks

[Anonymous No.718655]

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/376121/congratulations-daz3d
how's 20 years of daz treating you /3/?

[Anonymous No.718674]

>>718572
Thanks, I'll check Brute

[Anonymous No.718675]

WE

[Anonymous No.718680]

>>718675
What's he hiding under that?

[Anonymous No.718686]

>>718680
His third leg

[Anonymous No.718688]

>>718675
nice texture distortion, give him your money

[Anonymous No.718696]

>>718655
It hurts, I bet at least 20% of poser/daz users have died from old age.

[Anonymous No.718707]

>>718696
Getting in to this as a hobby I did find it weird that most people were pretty old.

[Anonymous No.718757]

What did daz3d.com mean by this?

[Anonymous No.718841]

>>718757
>The Kikess and her Mud Golem will be the ones to finally end you, Aryan Man!

[Anonymous No.718853]

>>718757
clipping, clipping everywhere!

[Anonymous No.718879]

Just downloaded the Octane plugin, gotta say, the test renders I did aren't THAT much faster than on Iray, the bump maps get converted to literal elephant ass skin (I know that this can be tweaked) setting up lighting also seems retarded, can anyone link some guides on how to use the full potential of this shit? How to setup lighting/skin/other materials Seems like an absolute downgrade atm and I'm glad I never bought the subscription.

[Anonymous No.718888]

>>718688
I never paid for any assets

[Anonymous No.718926]

>>718757
D-Do you think they fucked? H-Haha...

[Anonymous No.718944]

>>718888
Do you use any private sites?
There's something I'm looking for which I only found on one public warez site and the download takes forever, and sometimes it stops and I have to start all over again. I wish they shared the stuff through torrent.

[Anonymous No.718974]

>>718926
Yes but he was the bottom.

[DazBigNosesEdition No.719114]

so, who's this one?

[Anonymous No.719184]

>>719114
From that Artist, likely another Arab porn star.

[Anonymous No.719187]

>>719114
Why does it look like the mouths don't belong in the faces of his models?

[Anonymous No.719201]

>>719184
>Arab
Yeah about that...

[Anonymous No.719204]

[Anonymous No.719314]

where i can get artpose pro free?

[Anonymous No.719319]

>>719314
device?

[Anonymous No.719325]

>>719319
Android

[Anonymous No.719332]

>>717559
>Why? Daz is a hobby of mine and I just want to create and render my characters
Same here but learning Blender helps you further your knowledge of how things work. In DAZ you are limited because its basically like playing with dolls and presets that other people created in better software. So if you really want to take your rendering up a notch then start learning blender. I just spent a few hours learning how to import daz figures in to blender and make them render as good as they do in daz.

>>717562
>you are wasting your time trying to convince any of these subhuman iq daztards to learn anything else
I was a Daztard now i'm a blendlet, there is hope. I was using DAZ off and on for like 4 years and then started using it more frequently and wanted to take it further and now I'm obsessed with Blender and only use DAZ part time. Instead of hoarding terabytes of daz assets I just learn to make shit in Blender.

[Anonymous No.719369]

>>716797
There's a correlation between IQ and neoteny, probably born from r/K selection. You don't really need to understand those high level concepts. Asian like pedophilia for a very good reason.

[Anonymous No.719388]

>>719332

Why not Maya tho? That's what I use.

[Anonymous No.719402]

>daz is ba-

[Anonymous No.719427]

>tfw celebrity series bro didn't make a post about the new release
i must be on the worst timeline

[Anonymous No.719436]

>>719332
>>717559
>>717523
I use maya but daz and other 3d software can work in harmony

[Anonymous No.719437]

>>719332
>>717559
>>717523

[Anonymous No.719502]

>>719402
Looks like Anna DeArmas' 45 year old sister.

[Anonymous No.719515]

want to buy some shit bro?

[Anonymous No.719644]

>>719436
>>719388
i'm sure maya is fine I have just never used it because blender is free and quickly blowing up in the 3D industry because of all the sick addons and updates it keeps getting also the constant shilling convinced me

[Anonymous No.719792]

>>719332

What tutorials or things like that did you use to learn how to import daz figures in to blender?

[Anonymous No.719888]

>>719792
Not that anon but it's stupid easy with diffeomorphic. You may need to tweak the materials afterwards though.

[Anonymous No.719944]

>>719888
Do you convert to rigify or just keep the Daz rig?
Every time I try the rigify conversion it just doesn't work well. Some joints don't work etc.

[Anonymous No.720046]

>>714188
>They're probably rendering little girls.
thank god my fetish is young white bois, literally 18+, taking huge black tranny dicks.

[Anonymous No.720048]

>>715464
>>715600
i feel like i'm the only person that uses kid models non-sexually. like, just a kid playing at the park with his dog and a basketball. what is wrong with this board?

[Anonymous No.720217]

How do I get a gf like this?

[Anonymous No.720263]

>>720217
Wait for realtime rendering, AI and immersive VR.

[Anonymous No.720420]

>>720217

1) stop spending time sitting in front of the pc.
2) hit the gym.
3) Get a job.

[Anonymous No.720426]

>>720048
I don't do pedo, but I'm pretty sure that half my renders would be considered hate speech in most western country. I do them for the shock value, mostly, which means ever greater height of shock to get something out: things like concentration camp full of jews or black slaves being killed in gruesome detail in a random plantation.

Not sure why. I'm a pretty chill guy in real life. I guess the thrill is in the breaking of boundaries.

[Anonymous No.720515]

>>720420
>2) hit the gym.
>3) Get a job.
I did both of those things for 5 years and still didn't get one like THAT

[Anonymous No.720539]

>>716392
Silent Hill 2 > Homecoming
Go and die in a fire, faggot

[Anonymous No.720573]

>>720539
OG model would be much lower poly. Definitely the better game though.

[Anonymous No.720578]

> tfw nobody is uploading the new girls from HugeNosesGuy

[Anonymous No.720640]

I've used these scripts to port DAZ3D into blender... they kinda look like crap in blender.

am I doing it wrong?

[Anonymous No.720705]

>>720640
Some are jenky but the diffeomorphic one is great. You will still need to adjust materials though

[Anonymous No.721179]

>>720573
Exactly. But don't worry. I'm working on that next.

[Anonymous No.721456]

anyone have any experience with the ultimate skin manager?

looking to merge things like freckles/tanlines/genitalia diffuse and normals into single maps for export and wondering if it saves much time compared to doing it the manual way

[Anonymous No.721471]

>>720705
Thanks, that solved all my problems and now every DAZ3D character I port into blender looks perfect.

[Anonymous No.721656]

>>721471

seriously? do you have to manually fix something or do they get ported as good to go?

[Anonymous No.721676]

>>721656
materials need tweaking.

[Anonymous No.721748]

I'm rendering a girl yawning and I literally can't stop yawning every time I check the render.

Take care. Daz3D can affect your life.

[Anonymous No.721750]

I've never used Daz before, how far can I go when it comes to the customization of a model without resorting to external programs or buying those custom characters (Victoria whatever I don't know what they're called)?
For example, can I recreate real people in Daz only through sliders?
What about stylized character, like pic related?
Thanks

[Anonymous No.721752]

>>721750
Daz allows any amount of customization, from the butch musclegirl to the loli or super thick stylised model, but for that you need a good amount of content. All Daz users have libraries of content in the 40+ Gb. They start small. Three years later you have a christmas tree with Godzilla, a small flatted high heel, three taverns, two cafés, twenty different set of swimsuits, etc. It just happens.

>buying those custom characters
...But they don't often buy. Buying is for losers and rich people.

Anyway, what you need to understand is that, basically, you need:

1. A basic model. That's called Genesis X base.
2. The victoria for that model. It's basically a Genesis X with two or three shit added, it's the most basic advanced figure.
3. Some shape morphs. Those are your "sliders": Thick/Muscular/Height/Abs/Legs Lenght/etc. The official advanced morphs for Genesis X (product separate) are often sufficient for basic use, but not much so. If you want realistic musculature, by instance, I advise She SWOLE morphs.
4. Some textures. Those are the colors of your skin. They're often sold as entirely separate character, that is, texture + particular morphs bundled together to get the perfect girl as presented.
5. Some clothing, unless you don't need to.
6. Some hairs.
7. The genitals if you don't need to 5., but then same stuff: you need genital morph and genitals textures to get anywhere. Genital textures are often sold in a "character" bundle, but not always (and isn't that a headache).

A user that has a decent library can do absolutely anything, and I know, I've done it. Getting started can get lengthy though. To get absolutely started with a naked figure with no hair, get the Genesis Base, the Genesis advanced morphs, and the victoria textures.

[Anonymous No.721821]

>>713294
>Textures of the iris
>Bump map making her knee look like it was grafted onto her from her grandma
>Floating fingers on her leg
>That fucking mouth pose
>Trying to get her to look into the camera but missing by Millimeters.
How did this render get past 2% before it was scrubbed?

[Anonymous No.721822]

>>721748
I had a similar experience myself. I rendered a girl with a penis and then I ended up growing one myself. Now I'm too busy masturbating to get any meaningful render-work done.

They really need to write a manual or a guidebook on the dangers of DAZ3D.