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for all the keen students out there....

http://academy.cg-masters.com/nicks-rants-and-raves/dont-like-quit-seriously/

choose your futures wisely...

>> No.427984

This is all just too scary.

I just wonder what stops artists from joining together, making a product and selling it by themselves instead of working for the industry?
It's not like money is the answer because they have to actually pay to keep their jobs. If you run the numbers you're actually losing money by having a job.

Godfuckingdammiteverythingfuck

>> No.428002

>>427984
because 99.9% of people are just sheep... and that .1% is the shepherd.

the artists in this case are literally to stupid to help themselves, or in some cases to big to work.

>> No.428065

>>427946
>working in comfy office
>hard

Oh boy
Seriously, i cant think of a day when i got tired by 3d
At most i run out of steam, like i dont know what to do anymore and have to sleep it off

As for working long hours ? The guy is right, you create the environment you work in, if people dont want to work long hours then dont.
Quit, or get fired.

>> No.428072

>>428065
Post your folio...

>> No.428077

>>428072
http://slocik.deviantart.com/gallery/

>> No.428082

>>428072
if i didnt know better i would say moot added a spambot on /3/ like he used to do on /b/

>> No.428084

>>428077
Its just blobmonster after blobmonster. No anatomy to speak of, unoriginal designs that've been done into the ground. Just sad. Its like demon, squidgirl, demon, landshark with muscles, demon. None of it is even remotely fresh

>> No.428085

>>428084
there's muscle detail on plenty of them. what are you on about? i'm not even the poster.

>> No.428086

>>428085
Theres muscles, but no anatomie. It just looks like blob after blob monster, like a novice artist would make. At this rate, that tripfag wont ever make anything good.

>> No.428088

>>428086
what do you mean by anatomy then? proportions or the actual presence of joint/bone protrusions on the elbows/knees/pelvis?

>> No.428090
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428090

>>428086
most of it seems fine.

>> No.428092

>>428090
this is just babies first disgusting blobmoster. And, its not even original. I wouldnt even consider that tripgfag above average. All he does is copy. Its like a cover band that copies songs and the originals they make if they do make any all suck horesecok

>> No.428093
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428093

>>428092
blob would be this. there's enough bone shading that you see the jaw/cheek/brow/etc. it's far from blob.

>> No.428094

>>428093
if theres any doubt that its a blob, its a blob. That tripfag has pages full of boring blobs with tired design. Im done, gong to get za

>> No.428095

>>428094
i agree on tired design. i'm just hung up on the blob part.

>> No.428096

>>428090
>http://slocik.deviantart.com/gallery/
clavicles, deltoids, good spine and ribcage...Doesn't seem blobby to me at all. Looks like someone's jelly.

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428099

>>428096
I was gonna shitpost because it was sloick, but they are pretty nice indeed, if you can just ignore the typical muscle overgrowth autism.
I especially love this guy.

>> No.428101
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428101

>>428099
the very definition of blob monster. Thats all thats on the page - untextured, blobmonster / demon busts and porn. It will get the tripfag nowhere fast, except to dead end gigs

>> No.428102

>>428101
actually no. they are blobmonsters alright, but the muscles and bones are exactly where they are supposed to be. If he used 15 less strokes on a muscle group, he would have a properly toned anatomy. I think he just oversculpted the muscles because lets face it, it's goddamn fun.

>> No.428104
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428104

>>428102
hah, yeah i like overdefing stuff
even when i find something simple i tend to make it more skinny or muscular along the way
smooth forms bore me, that and i never have enough time to work with zbrush as i would like, i would like to be much better with my work


Still how you faggots managed to get from the op post to the discussion about my blobs is beyond me

>> No.428105

>>428104
> smooth forms bore me
actually when you come to think of it, overgrown mucsles bore us because that's all we see now. The first thing a kiddie does when he gets his hands on zbrush, is to add a muscle here and there and thinks he created something artistic. We hardly see anyone who properly uses zbrush to create something more mature.

>> No.428107

>>428105
>more mature.

Thats a meaningless term if i ever saw one.
What you mean i assume is something more complex or more realistic. Sure, you could try making whole scenes or tell a story within zbrush work or go for that uncanny valley element where you just change a tiny small body feature on a character.

But one is pretty time consuming and requires much more clear vision rather than a 3h sculpt, and he other gets quite boring after you make the same base body 5x. You start asking yourself why dont i use the one i made previously, and the idea of search gets lost.

Now muscular monsters are what people usually start with but that dont make then inherently bad, proper anatomy and form still will take years to master, and there is a huge difference between a this type of model made by lets say jordu schell and some beginner.

Bottom lien who cares, as long as it looks good it is good.

>> No.428109

>>428107
yor shit looks like crap and the majority of it isnt even your concept. If I want to see somethingt good i go to zbrushcentral. You should go there, too, and learn

>> No.428111

>>428109
Or you could actually post an example of something good you've managed to do and actually explain what makes his shit look like crap.
Fuckin kids like you make /3/ a joke.

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428112

>>428111
like said, go to zbrush central to see good work. This tripfag (you?) makes hackwork at best. If he was good, he would be on the top row of zbrush central. He's on deviant art instead man and he(you?) refuses to even acknwoldege taht hes shit and a begginner.

>> No.428113

>>428112
I'm not the tripfag, and being on zbrush central =/= good. What are you some advertising bot?

Who are you besides some anonymous shit talker? Are you a top guy on zbrush central? What makes you think your opinion is worth anything to consider when you won't even back it up? There's nothing to take from what you've said, you're going to need a little more than "he's a beginner and he's shit" if you want to be taken seriously.

His work isn't that impressive but at least he can fucking answer when someone tries to challenge his validity. Alot more than you can do it seems.

>> No.428114
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428114

>>428113
zbrush central top row is miles ahead of anything on that tripfagfs page. This isnt even a question. If he wants to improve past novice he should make that his mecca.

im just another anon. Thats hwy i post here. Completely anonymous.

>> No.428115

>>428114
>zbrush central top row is miles ahead of anything on that tripfagfs page

no shit kid, thats why its called the top row
as in the best works, as judged by the mods at lest

and if you could get amazing just by lurking a 3d site you would think there would be only little michalangelos running around, but somehow this isnt the case.
Care to elaborate why that isnt ?

>> No.428116

>>428115
michaelangelo had the discipline not to do demon/9000 eyes/porn/blob/demon. You're a joke

>> No.428128

>>428086
Post your portfolio

>> No.428139

>>428128
see >>428114 dood

>> No.428167

>>428104
ill start here, it started with depressing facts, than got to you saying you were the energizer bunny, with the usual "post your work post, which i linked the deviantart because i know where your shit is.

than the trolls that decide to lurk just on the off chance that someone is stupid enough to actually link their work or post their work... god i didn't think there was that many of them/ that one guy was that dedicated.

>>428082
nah, it couldnt be a spambot because that post your folio is usually used in the right context, i like to imagine its one person or one group just looking for a place they can say it just so they can go off like these ones did.

>>428084
>>428086
>>428092
>>428094
>>428101
>>428109
>>428112
>>428114
>>428116

granted i didn't know it would turn this page into this...

>>428105
it may bore you to see it, but its not nearly as boring to make it, so long as the muscles are in the right spots, i can deal with seeing it. but that's personal taste, im so board of seeing humans that all have that layer that obstructs the muscle detail just for the sake of realism.

>> No.428338

>>428139
>no portfolio
>no idea what he's talking about
>no credibility
>trying to advise another with blanket terms like "check out this website man"

I think it's time you stfu lol

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428345

>>428116
What the fuck are you talking about.

>> No.428353

>>428345
ok, now that pretty fucking funny and ironic

>> No.428361

>>428345
shaded terribly. Not a master.

>> No.428377 [DELETED] 

>>428361
He was 13 when he painted this.

>> No.428379
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428379

>>428361
He was 13 when he painted that.
Mastery comes with experience.

But that isn't the point.
the point is he Did paint blob demons and went on to become one of the great masters anyway.

>> No.428380

>>428379
That drawing has a human, a foreground, a midground, and a background, eight creatures, some of them fish, some flying, lol. They're all original design, too. This isnt a blob fangirl bust at all like the tripfag in this thread.

>> No.428392

Oh look, this discussion again. Before you guys complaint, post CGI portfolio of other Modelers who got jobs doing what they do.

Here's an About article that listed the portfolio of the top dogs of the industry: http://3d.about.com/od/Creating-3D-The-CG-Pipeline/tp/50-Artists-Past-And-Present-Who-Work-In-Film-Games-And-Animation.htm

Also, DEVIANTART DOESN'T COUNT AS A PORTFOLIO. You have to create your own website to showcase what you're capable of, and all of your works have to be made within a timeframe of a year.

>> No.428393

>>428392
Calm down, faggot. You dont have to create your own website.

>> No.428394

>>428393
Not from the ground up you don't.

>> No.428395

>>428394
You dont have to write the code. Deviant art is fine and dandy.

>> No.428399

>>428392
Im just gonna respond to your link since rest of your "arguments" is pure idiocy.
So in that amazing link we have dated as shit 2d and tarditional parts with people like frank frezetta, who operated 50 !! years ago,
And the 3d section is full of people like Scott eaton who not only did stuff from gnomon most of them know everybody in the industry and got big only by knowing people.
Or ryan kingslien, who worked for pixologix gnomon and movie design.

Most of the big names in 3d dont even update their websites and folios.

Still you must be right, a guy like frazetta clearly kept a up to date website even when he was working long before the interwebz were a thing.

>> No.428400

>>428399
Hero worshipping again, tripfag.