Speed sculpting Thread

[Anonymous No.405714]

I want to increase my sculpting speed.
I'll be doing some speed sculpts.
Why don't you guy's join along?


>Rule 1: 30 - 1 hour sculpts
>Rule 2: Please don't lie. This thread is about increasing your workflow.
>Rule 3: No Alioto

Let's do this, guys.

If you post a video of your process, that would be awesome.

Here is one to motivate you guys
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wH70X2PxrI

[Anonymous No.405716]

>>405714
30 min is retarded just make it 1-3 h.

[Anonymous No.405719]

>>405716
Alright under 3 hours.

[Anonymous No.405730]

34 minutes.
Holy shit I suck ass.

More practices incoming.
.

[Anonymous No.405741]

>30m
ya dun goofed

1 - 2 is solid. also, no ref/subject for everyone to do and compare against, that's how you motivate people, polycount noob challenges are successful in that way.

[Anonymous No.405748]

Here is a 30 min sculpt
>>405741
You could do longer. It's not like anyone will yell at you or you're going to get disqualified.
>No reference
I don't see how you'll learn without reference, but okay.

[Anonymous No.405750]

>>405748

well done you took 30m to make something shit

[Anonymous No.405751]

>>405750
/3/.
Where people who suck the most call other peoples work shit.

[Anonymous No.405754]

>>405751
No. It really is shit. It's a generic kool skully face done by some wannabe with zero anatomical knowledge and creativity.

[Anonymous No.405755]

I'm in. I got some timelapses on from daily spit sculpt facebook group. I did this one today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttS9FZhCtpc

So as you can see I'm not really good yet, and females especially are really difficult. But sure, if you put up a theme, I'll participate.

[Anonymous No.405756]

>>405714
>30 min
welp

[Anonymous No.405762]

>>405751
>implying

its irrelevent if im good or not, the fact is that skull is utter garbage and he posted it like its an achievement for 30 minutes

[Anonymous No.405763]

>>405762
>he posted it like its an achievement for 30 minutes
OP here. Not really, I consider it a progress.
That's the entire point.

You're encouraged to post your own work for noobs like to me show and influence.

[Anonymous No.405764]

>>405755

Nice. you need to make her cuter and more feminine though, add some fat to the cheeks, and round out the bottom lip ... anyway this is why we need a topic so we have a frame of reference against decent sculptors like this guy

[Anonymous No.405767]

>>405762
>>405754
>>405750

We need mod here
The samefag shitposting is getting out of hand.

[Anonymous No.405769]

>>405756
~1,5h im done

[Anonymous No.405771]

1 hour and 8 min.
My hand hurts now.

[Anonymous No.405773]

>Rule 3: No Alioto

[Anonymous No.405774]

n... no Alioto?

[Anonymous No.405775]

[Anonymous No.405776]

[Anonymous No.405777]

>>405769
you into trannies?

>>405771
looks like an 8 yr old made this, if you're 8, well done

>>405774
just gay

[Anonymous No.405778]

>>405773
>>405774
>>405775
>>405776
Look what you did /3/.

[Anonymous No.405779]

what's Alioto?

[Anonymous No.405780]

>>405777
You lost?
>>>/b/

There you go.

[Anonymous No.405782]

I could have done a better job but I wanted to do it in 1 hour.

[Anonymous No.405783]

>>405782
it's shit

[Anonymous No.405784]

>>405782
not bad for 1h, but could be better
keep working on it

[Anonymous No.405788]

>>405782
nice 3dscan

[Anonymous No.405789]

>>405782
That's a fucking 3d scan.

[Anonymous No.405795]

>>405773
>>405774
>>405775
>>405776

DID SOMEONE SAY ALIOTO THREAD!?

[Anonymous No.405837]

an hour.

[Anonymous No.405838]

>>405730
>>405748
Why don't you try moving away from the clay brush a bit ? Have you tried the clip and the trim brushes ?

You actually build planes with them so if you want to learn to build shapes fast they are better.
And instead of the clay brush use the move brush to "add" material.

[Anonymous No.405866]

>>405838
No they are not better but the are right they are a bit underused by beginners, mostly due to being very destructive, you must know what you are doing to do something with them.

Anyway clay brushes are really good if something i would recommend using alpha 06 with clay buildup and flatten/hpolish.
Much superior combo over trim brushesh, more control less hassle.

[Anonymous No.405875]

I made this the other day in about two hours I think.

Probably took me way too long and I should've used some reference. Every time I try to do something without reference it ends up looking like a cartoon.

[Anonymous No.405905]

Here's mine. 60 minutes timed.
I have a lot to learn.

>>405866
>, mostly due to being very destructive
Destructive, lol. I don't how to say this without sounding like a prude ... there's no such thing as destructive in sculpting. You either take the material out or you add it. If you don't like the change you go back.
It's better to start the sculpture with very "destructive" tools and methods like that because you work faster. You don't want to start a sculpture slowly.
It's the same way with paintings - start with a broom, finish with a needle. Haven't you heard ?

[Anonymous No.405910]

>>405905
No i havent since you talk out of your ass.
There is no rule for starting a sculpt, i for one like to have a good base before i start going seriously into it, so i spend same attention at the start as at the end.
And there is destructive, there are tools that affect only small portions of the mesh in subtle manner, and there are those like clip or trim brush that will cut the model in half

[Anonymous No.405913]

>>405910
Of course there are "rules". It's like you've not even watched a single instructional video, let alone had an actual education.

You start with big shapes. Big forms. And you move to smaller forms. Hence brushes which make big changes are good. And as for the model geometry .. who gives a shit ?! We live in the era of dynamesh and zremesher.

[Anonymous No.405916]

>>405913
This guys sounds like he torrented a gnomon workshop vid, watched half of it and decided he was an expert.

Listen, your speed sculpt was decent at best. I agree with the gist of what you're saying - starting with a broom and finishing with a needle is a pretty good rule of thumb. Thing is, when it comes down to it it's up to the artist to figure out what works best. Arguing over and nitpicking about general rules is fucking retarded.

Both of you idiots should just get into Zbrush and play. Shift delete all the crap floating in your heads that you're arguing about and play around until it clicks.

Then bring back something that won't make my eyes bleed and some helpful critique.

[Anonymous No.405920]

>>405916
>your speed sculpt was decent at best.
It's not good and I never said anything else.

My point was very clear - the geometry is irrelevant and there is no "destructive" tool. You start from a ball, there is nothing underlying you can destroy.

Heck if you somehow mess it up so bad it's unusable (to someone with your skill), a good exercise would be to get the tool back in the shape of a ball without the smooth tool. It's the beginning exercise in sculpting and the only one I actually remember from the sculpting courses I took as a joke in university years ago.

[Anonymous No.405921]

>>405920
Dude, enough.

[Anonymous No.405927]

>>405920
Bullshit, my best sculpt are made when my topology flows well with my strokes and forms.
I hate working high poly and good luck making forms when you are consists of tris 6 edges verts and shit,

Dont assume your workflow is the correct one.
Also unless you mean trims adaptice which is basically just flatten brush then all trim and clip brushesh are hard to control above the very early stages where you affect only the contuses of the mesh, but at that point you might as well use move brush or clay with high size.

[Anonymous No.405929]

>>405927
Well that's probably exactly why you stick to the clay brush, I personally have no problem "destroying" my topology because I always start from a ball or a zsphere so there was never any topology there to begin with.

With your workflow it's better if you switch to Mudbox, that app has much better brushes for working with basemeshes. Zbrush predisposes to a dirty, dynamesh centered flow.

In fact what I've read is they changed a lot of the brushes after they introduced dynamesh specifically to make it easier to whack a high "poly" models around with speed in.

[Anonymous No.405953]

>>405929
Seriously, come back in a few years bro.

[Anonymous No.405957]

>>405782
Isn't that the 3D scan they used for the hulk in the avengers?

[anonn No.406094]

well since this is sorta related, felt I'd ask here instead of making a new thread.

How would you go about making a speed sculpt video? Is there a way to record it via the program? or just use something like Fraps?

[Anonymous No.406096]

Another one, did it in roughly an hour.

[Anonymous No.406097]

>>405714
I like the silhouette of your sculpt.
Got a very nice aesthetic.

Head seems kind of big, but muscle tone and bones look very good, did you have a reference for this?

all in all, nice jerb OP I enjoyed watching that but I need to deliver a 2500 word text in a few minutes.

[Anonymous No.406105]

30 minutes,
The worst Conan ever.

[Anonymous No.406130]

I'll set a timer.

[Anonymous No.406215]

>>406105
did another one today, different reference of course.

[Anonymous No.406237]

I hit some shortcut 46 minutes in and now I can only rotate. My model is partially transparent and I can't edit it at all anymore.

Anyone know what happened?

[Anonymous No.406239]

>>406215
Actually better than before.

[Anonymous No.406241]

[Anonymous No.406242]

>>406215
The other one was the Crimson Chin, this one's just fat faced.

[Anonymous No.406378]

60 minutes.

Criticisms?

[Anonymous No.406401]

>>406378
It's good that you're understanding forms now.
If I look at your first one you had blobbyness.
Now just give the proportions of the head.

Like /ic/ would say....
>Loomis


The forehead seems too large.
The head shape gets wider towards the back of the head all the way till the ears. In your's it flat straight.
The placement of the nose and mouth seem slightly too downwards and should be placed slightly up.
The neck is not a separate part, the sternomastoid is connected behind the ears and it creates a straight downwards shape. It doesn't go inwards.

[Anonymous No.406420]

>>406215
Today I did an older guy, the wrinkles were fun.

[Anonymous No.406449]

>>406420

[Anonymous No.406497]

>>406449
I love how the only guy who is striving to improve on this thread is the one kept getting fun at.

But he keeps striving on improvement. Now we know who's going to succeed in this industry and who isn't.

[Anonymous No.406526]

>>406449
haha I see it too Anon, I should take a crack at a meme image for my speed sculpt today, that might be fun.
>>406497
Aww an Anon after my own heart. Thanks for the kindness.

[Anonymous No.406550]

>>406420
Switched things up by doing Grumpy Cat. As I wanted to do an animal, in hindsight though I probably should of chose one less fluffy.

[Anonymous No.406553]

>>406550
you should have sculpted with more mesh resolution.

[Anonymous No.406559]

>>406401
>The head shape gets wider towards the back of the head all the way till the ears. In your's it flat straight.
Could you expand on this?

[Anonymous No.406564]

>>406550
you should probably kill yourself

[Anonymous No.406569]

>>406550
That seriously looks like ass.

[Anonymous No.406868]

>>406550
forgot to post yesterday day, sculpted a buddies head. Turned out okay.

[Anonymous No.406893]

Oh yeah. I meant to post this here a few days ago. Sculpted Doomguy using the sprite as reference... Was an hour and some change. Don't remember exaclty.

[Anonymous No.406894]

>>406893
used it to put a normal on the sprite too for shits. Proportions matched up pretty well...

[Anonymous No.406991]

>>406893
>>406894
That's awesome, you should do him with the shooting expression for extra credit.

[Anonymous No.406999]

>>406868
Today is arm day. Tomorrow maybe leg (Everyday is leg day)

[Anonymous No.407356]

>>406999
Yesterday was leg day, for got to post.

[Anonymous No.407361]

>>406999
>>407356
never rush anatomy studies, make sure you understand one limb before going to the next one.
Anatomy in both dosnt make much sense, you got some mains forms in but thats just it, the overall structure is all wrong.

Instead try making the hand, like 5 times, and each time try to push it to the point you are ok with it rather than just doing a 60 min sculpt.

[Anonymous No.407366]

>>406999
>>407356

>speedsculpting anatomy
i don't think you understand the seperation betwen study and speed.

[Anonymous No.407385]

>>407361
Thanks for the feedback.
My sculpts were done more as gestures, to see how much I could get down in the 30 minutes I gave myself. And I agree if I had more time I would of gone to town on that hand and the surrounding everything haha
>>407366
When you speed sculpt the head its still an anatomy study, you're still paying attention to the forms of the face and what lies underneath. What makes and arm and a leg so different?

[Anonymous No.407388]

>>407366
They are not mutually exclusive, you fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.407391]

>>407388
Yeah, you gonna conjure up anatomy knowledge out of your ass. Or you gonna pray for it like a real christian.

[Anonymous No.407394]

>>407391
What does that have to do with speedsculpting and studies?

It's like you're trying to communicate without actually understanding what the other person said.

[Anonymous No.407400]

>>407394
Im not trying to communicate anything, im not the same annon, but i still agree.
Rushing anatomy studies is like shooting yourself in the foot.
You take as much time as it takes for you to understand the structure and underlying form, not some abstract amount of time to get it "so so" looking.

[Anonymous No.407416]

>>407391
>>407400
I think you think people don't use reference when they're speed sculpting?
A speed sculpt isn't suppose to be a final sculpt, its just a speed challenge, a warm up, like doing 30 second drawings in life drawing. You'll still pick things up about how the subject should look because you're thinking about it from a constructive point of view.

[Anonymous No.407419]

>>407356
Back heads I guess since limbs aren't cool here.

Turned out awful.

[Anonymous No.407443]

>>406420
Your improvements inspires me to get better, I love your determination.

[Anonymous No.407449]

>>407419
This isn't much, anon but these has the major forms you need to work on and keep in mind.

Best of luck and keep practicing.

[Anonymous No.407583]

>>407419
Today's sculpt comes from no reference. I really noticed how much having a desired image to go off of really hinders my ability to get the main forms down. Some thing I'll have to be aware of in the future.

[Anonymous No.407585]

>>407583
You always need reference. Even the best artists use reference. The problem is if you get fixated on the details too early on, you pay less attention to your over all form. Which is why some artists would pick the flat shader to check the silhouette of their sculpt. Other artists use the blur feature.

Your head is a lot better now. Some stuff I would fix would be:

-your subdivision is 1 or 2 levels higher than necessary.
-your temporal line is too narrow on the front view; and pushing too close towards the forehead on the side view making the forehead flat.
-ears a bit too big and low.
-pull the upper lip from the side view just a bit farther than the lower lip
-add a bit more mass on the temporalis.

That's it for now.
Pic not related.

[Anonymous No.407586]

>>405957
Reverse image search, nub.
http://www.cgmeetup.net/home/making-of-hulk-the-avengers-industrial-light-magic/

[Anonymous No.408018]

>>407583
Took some days off from sculptin and modelin to put together a portfolio for job huntin.
I wasted a lot of time in the eyes, mainly because I couldn't get them how I wanted them. Still not happy.

[Anonymous No.408078]

>>408018
>Still not happy.
get used to it lel

[Anonymous No.408256]

>>408018
Sculpts SO angry today.

[Anonymous No.408257]

Ignore this.

[Anonymous No.408278]

>>405764
Not every 3d girl has to be the epitome of cute girliness. Kindly fuck off.

[Anonymous No.408349]

>>408256
Listen up everyone, today I did the ear. 30 minutes was plenty of time.
I think I'll keep this one too, use it to kit bash other sculpts.

[Anonymous No.408404]

>>408349
Come to think of it, is there a brush in ZBrush that keeps the thickness of the clay?
In example, that ear should be roughly the same thickness everywhere, so it would make sense that once you have the thickness right, you would only have to push the clay inward/outward with that brush to get it fairly correct

[Anonymous No.408407]

>>408349
>>408404
Also your ear's walls are too thick.

[Anonymous No.408411]

>>408349
This looks nothing like an real ear
30 minutes was obviously not enough
redo it now, and work on it till its perfect

[Earnestangel !Ci3UmwhFqY No.408426]

never been to /3/ before


this is pretty impressive stuff

I assume most of you use a tablet or something for this? or just mouse

pls respond

[Anonymous No.408428]

>>408426
>sculpting with a mouse
please stop

[Anonymous No.408430]

>>408426
Sculpting with a mouse is madness, you need the pressure sensitivity.

[Earnestangel !Ci3UmwhFqY No.408431]

>>408430
what's a most suitable tablet then? and how much do they on average cost?

[Anonymous No.408432]

>>408431
probably from 100$ up for wacom intuos

[Earnestangel !Ci3UmwhFqY No.408434]

>>408432
and how's the quality for $100-150?

for a beginner

how powerful will my computer need to be?

[Anonymous No.408435]

>>408434
Im happy with my intuos 4

You need a half decent cpu, gpu dont matter

[Anonymous No.408540]

Half of David Bowie's album

[Anonymous No.408744]

>>408349
Listening to a podcast while I sculpted, got distracted. Still turned out nice.
>>408404
I'm sure there is a brush that does something like that, but I'm not sure what it's called.
>>408407
Also I agree, its tricky to get a surfaces super thin in Zbrush since you risk sculpting through the mesh. I'll probably take it into Maya and fine tune the thickness in there if I plan to use it for something.
>>408411
Right oh chief, although I meant 30 minutes being enough time to get the forms in without feeling like I'm racing the clock.