Help with face modelling

[Anonymous No.389078]

Hey /3/, I need you guys' help on face modeling. Read some thread here about edge loops which was really useful but it still looks pretty shitty and I have no idea how to continue from here on without screwing it up.
>Give me your tips.

[Anonymous No.389083]

(s)kill yourself

[Anonymous No.389085]

I've been doing 3D for a year now so I'm still a beginner, it's just I find faces and organic stuff so incredibly much harder than other modeling, hence it looking so extremely shitty, that I decided to ask for guidance here.

[Anonymous No.389092]

how hard is it honestly to google face topology?
you would have got your answer. saved yourself modeling a stupid face, wrongly.
and not wasted thread looking like idiot.

[Anonymous No.389095]

Get a copy of zbrush or 3d-coat and starting with a sphere and sculpt heads; that is a far easier way to learn face modeling compared to how you are attempting it now.

Give yourself one hour to speed sculpt a head and focus on getting proportions as close as you can in that one hour time frame. After that wait a few hours or a day and go back and look at what you have sculpted and see what sticks out to you as the most wrong and figure out why it is off. Repeat this 25-50 times and then rather than focusing on proportions start to focus on the features under the skin, bones, muscles, and fat; and learn how to accurately represent these. Once you have that under control start to focus on normal human variation and variation based on ethnicity. Once more let me repeat, give yourself one hour to speed sculpt with these goals in mind, this will help you avoid nit-picking and lollygagging on sub-par attempts. Just sculpt a shitty head followed by a slightly less shitty head, so on and so forth until one day you notice that things are starting to look somewhat realistic. Once you hit that point, and only then, should you give yourself permission to spend 4-16 hours on a head sculpt.

[Anonymous No.389122]

>>389085

>about a year

[Anonymous No.389126]

>>389095

One thing that I've found to be helpful is to look at pictures of a skull. Even if you don't know all the parts, knowing what's under the skin will help understand why the head is shaped the way it is.

[Anonymous No.389173]

>>389092
I have, and I can see where my models are wrong, I just don't know how to make it correct yet.

>>389095
I will

>>389126
Have done that with the model in this post.

[Anonymous No.389182]

>>389173
>>I can see where my models are wrong, I just don't know how to make it correct yet.

then model it again from scratch correctly instead of trying to polish a turd

[Anonymous No.389183]

my first hoomin
rate me pls

[Anonymous No.389208]

>>389183
kill yourself/10

>>389078
go to polycount and never come back here

[Anonymous No.389226]

>>389182
Actually this is a new model

[Anonymous No.389238]

>>389226
Then why did you make it shit TWICE?!

[Anonymous No.389254]

>>389173
Your heads don't look like they have a skull in them.

[Anonymous No.389352]

>>389173

That's not a head. That's a cube that's been dented and pinched in a few places.

[Anonymous No.389421]

Here is another

[Anonymous No.389424]

>>389421

Nigga what are you doing

are you even listening?

[Anonymous No.389426]

>>389424
The fact I can't model for shit doesn't mean I'm not trying to improve. So far I've been trying to apply all tips.

[Anonymous No.389427]

>>389426

How bout you stop starting from a sphere if you're box'modlin

[Anonymous No.389428]

>>389427
I've started from

[Anonymous No.389429]

>>389427 I've started from this actually

[Anonymous No.389430]

>>389429

Well that's even worse isn't it

[Anonymous No.389434]

when it comes to faces, box modeling is the worst approach you can choose

[Anonymous No.389435]

>>389421
okay that's not too retarded edgeloop wise.
now apply the subsurf modifier. see how it smooths.
and move all the edge loops, into the a shape that's actually anatomically correct.

[Anonymous No.389440]

>>389434
What shape do you recommend?

[Anonymous No.389451]

>>389440
for starters, check this book, should poke you to the right direction:
facial modeling and animation done right

also if you want to have decent results, always work with reference images

[Anonymous No.389457]

>>389451
I'll look into it, thanks

Here is another model